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South Africa [145/4] defeat Pakistan [144/7] by 6 wickets in the 2nd T20I; Series tied 1-1

There were never enough runs on the board we needed to have another 40/50 runs to even compete .
 
Hasan123 said:
Usmam is willing to flight and spin the ball compared to Shadab.
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He is not just willing, thats the only way he can ball as he struggles to get it to be flatter and quicker. Something he needs to learn
 
Damn. Our team is getting slaughtered. Khushdil and Ifti chacha have played there last games as hitters. Faheem is much better than these two.
 
Hasan123 said:
Usmam is willing to flight and spin the ball compared to Shadab.
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Both styles have their strengths.

In places with dew, flighting it can be dangerous.

Shadab has been a performer, and he tends to bowl it flat and quick.
 
Titan24 said:
He is not just willing, thats the only way he can ball as he struggles to get it to be flatter and quicker. Something he needs to learn
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Well you can't just look to bowl flat and quick as it can get predictable.
 
Usman’s honeymoon is over because the novelty is wearing off and he is being worked out now.

He is not going to survive at this level after playing teams like India, England and Australia.
 
UzmanBeast said:
Both styles have their strengths.

In places with dew, flighting it can be dangerous.

Shadab has been a performer, and he tends to bowl it flat and quick.
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True. Shadab won't be dropped anyway as he is the vice captain.
 
Mamoon said:
Usman’s honeymoon is over because the novelty is wearing off and he is being worked out now.

He is not going to survive at this level after playing teams like India, England and Australia.
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He was never going to be successful against better teams. The batsmen once start reading his googly , would always dominate.
 
Let me get this right...this guy is making his debut..age 34 averages 14 after 20 odd games and is smashing the pakistanis....
 
Mamoon said:
Usman’s honeymoon is over because the novelty is wearing off and he is being worked out now.

He is not going to survive at this level after playing teams like India, England and Australia.
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Once you read him, the danger is removed because he gives the ball too much flight searching for spin.

Shadab doesn't give a lot of loop so batsmen have less time to read him.

Imad + Shadab are pretty much undroppable by Pakistan.
 
Hasan123 said:
Well you can't just look to bowl flat and quick as it can get predictable.
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Yes you need to vary it. Bowling just slower and with flight can also get predictable if you cant bowl it quicker to vary it
 
Mamoon said:
Usman’s honeymoon is over because the novelty is wearing off and he is being worked out now.

He is not going to survive at this level after playing teams like India, England and Australia.
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You are too harsh on him mate. Dew is tough for any leggie
 
Mamoon said:
Shadab himself is a joke against India. Imad as well.

Our spin bowling resources in LOI cricket are embarrassing. Too bad Yasir never developed into a LOI bowler.
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That is because Pakistan want to bowl bowlers who can bat , most bowlers darting the ball.
 
Omer2002 said:
Let me get this right...this guy is making his debut..age 34 averages 14 after 20 odd games and is smashing the pakistanis....
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Well if you look this way at it, debutant Nauman took a fifer against SA in tests at 34 years of age.
 
Titan24 said:
Yes you need to vary it. Bowling just slower and with flight can also get predictable if you cant bowl it quicker to vary it
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Shadab will be back in the team regardless of how well Usman bowls because Shadab is the vice captain.
 
IMO a batsman should still be run out even if it is a no ball.

The same batsman would get one or two runs if he skies it to the fielder at long on, or his team would get extra runs if the keeper misses the stumping and it goes for extras. Not sure why the stumped batsman is not run out?
 
Mamoon said:
Shadab himself is a joke against India. Imad as well.

Our spin bowling resources in LOI cricket are embarrassing. Too bad Yasir never developed into a LOI bowler.
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In the few ODI's Yasir played he got smashed as well. Bowled too many loose deliveries.

Shadab usually keeps it in check in general against most sides.
 
Pakistan deserve to lose tbf

You will not continue to get away with a mediocre brand of cricket
 
Aamir Yamin for Hussain Talat
Danish Aziz for Ifti Chacha
Asif Ali for Khushdil Shah
Zafar Gohar for Mohammad Nawaz
Hasan Ali for Shaheen Shah Afridi
Mohammad Hasnain for Haris Rauf
Amad Butt for rested Faheem Ashraf

These changes would be good to see implemented into the next T20I.
 
How many glances and flick shots have we seen today by SA batsmen? Apart from Shaheen none of the bowlers have even landed the ball in good areas.
 
The current team is not our best combination. A lot of newer players other Rizwan haven't worked out. Hafeez, Imad and shadab are crucial to this team and now that they have been out for sometime I wonder if it affected their form.
 
Hasan123 said:
Shadab will be back in the team regardless of how well Usman bowls because Shadab is the vice captain.
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Thats aside, I am just saying Usman has limitations in T20 cricket and needs to work on them. Shadab will be coming on merit.
 
SA have rested their main players , Pakistan should have rested shaheen here for the series. The problem is Misnah and Waqar just trying to win at all cost to save themselves, they are not bothered about buildinga team , not looking to win any big tournament. Mediocre management will produce mediocre results.
 
I know players have been rested or some are injured, but just look at the names of our bowling attack. It's a really really poor attack apart from Shaheen and Usman who is relatively new.
 
Rana said:
IMO a batsman should still be run out even if it is a no ball.

The same batsman would get one or two runs if he skies it to the fielder at long on, or his team would get extra runs if the keeper misses the stumping and it goes for extras. Not sure why the stumped batsman is not run out?
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Because the nature of the game is designed to favor the bowlers and these rules only provide balance. That is why benefit of doubt always goes to the batsman.

A batsman makes one mistake and his innings ends. A bowler can bowl 23 terrible deliveries and he will still get to bowl the 24th no matter what.

A batsmen doesn’t get second chances to make amends.
 
Zahid Mahmood has better control than Usman Qadir. Bowls it a bit flatter as well so I wouldn't mind trying him out in the last T20.
 
Ozeirk said:
The current team is not our best combination. A lot of newer players other Rizwan haven't worked out. Hafeez, Imad and shadab are crucial to this team and now that they have been out for sometime I wonder if it affected their form.
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Why is Imad not playing ?
 
Will be interesting to see what Usman does in PSL, where our batsmen will read him.
 
Pak would be hoping to win toss tmw. Chasing is a plus in T20s itself let alone when there is dew as well
 
Faheem should quit bowling if he can't improve his pace. So frustrating at times his dibbly dobblers.

Focus on becoming a nr 6 batsman.
 
Titan24 said:
Pak would be hoping to win toss tmw. Chasing is a plus in T20s itself let alone when there is dew as well
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If South Africa bat first tomorrow and post 150, you can bet that Pakistan will bottle it under pressure.
 
UzmanBeast said:
Will be interesting to see what Usman does in PSL, where our batsmen will read him.
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Probably wont get much games this time around as well with Tahir and Afridi as the preferred options. Pak batsmen read him well but, when he gets his lengths right he can still be reasonably effective and economical.
 
Mamoon said:
If South Africa bat first tomorrow and post 150, you can bet that Pakistan will bottle it under pressure.
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Definitely wont be surprising, considering our track record chasing across the formats.
 
Gohar is a better bowler than Nawaz and he hasn't played in either game. Very questionable.
 
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