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The Middle Eastern Nightmare deserves to finish his story and win the title that Hassan couldn’t win 🤣

The Middle Eastern Nightmare - Am still laughing 🤣 @RedwoodOriginal
Bruh what are you talking about? The guy is a multiple-time X-Division Champion :ROFLMAO:

What cracks me up more is the noise of the planes in the background of his entrance theme. $hit$tain gives a new meaning to the term 'on the nose.' :ROFLMAO:
 
I will definitely check that out, I just think it was dumb to see how a crowd would react to him with the title by having him do an entrance with it to the confusion of the crowd. If they wanted to do a proper test, should have been in the ring, it could be overturned or something later, similar to Jericho’s first unrecognised world title win when he beat H; that pop was insane, H never got over how superior Jericho was compared to him on every level.
It was a dumb thing to do. The whole thing was badly thought out and poorly executed. The crowd had enough of Hulk Hogan. Just because you changed the colors and had someone else put on the costume, didn't mean the crowd was going to gravitate towards that. But once they put him in that position they should have gone all-in, rather than what they ended up doing, which completely buried Lex.

Lol that was one of the most pathetic examples of Vince bait and switch finishes. But I'd like to think that the pop Jericho got that night played some part in him getting that run as the Undisputed Champion.
 
Goldberg 's epic clear out in Elimiation Chamber some 22 years ago , Randy Orton Shawn Michaels, Big Show and Jericho mercilessly speared into glass cabin, literally stunning , HHH looked frightened
 
Bruh what are you talking about? The guy is a multiple-time X-Division Champion :ROFLMAO:

What cracks me up more is the noise of the planes in the background of his entrance theme. $hit$tain gives a new meaning to the term 'on the nose.' :ROFLMAO:

Need to send my apologies to Daivari, tbh he did a decent job with what he was given and him once being Angle’s manager once somehow worked as well.

I didn’t even pick up on that because of how much I was laughing 🤣🤣🤣 it plane noise makes it even more epic now lmao
 
I’d like to see Mustafa Ali return to the WWE, can’t recall if he was released under H though but under Shawn he worked very well
 
Sheikh Abdul Bashir The Middle Eastern Nightmare 🤣🤣🤣 I think 90% off Vinces most terrible ideas were probably inspired from working with sh!t stain.

You’re absolutely right, I keep thinking my memory might have failed me but no, he was 100% going to beat Batista for the title on that show. I mean we were a bit too PC for the time period, I feel like Vince should have stuck to his guns and pulled the trigger, even if it was a short reign, the nuclear heat would have meant that whoever would have beaten him, would get a mega pop.
I think the gimmick would have done a lot better if it didn't include demonising Islam in there. They could have done without that mat praying and terrorists aligning with him. Otherwise it could have been a massive heel magnet in a good way. Americans of Arab origin can be a massive gimmick even today.
 
Need to send my apologies to Daivari, tbh he did a decent job with what he was given and him once being Angle’s manager once somehow worked as well.

I didn’t even pick up on that because of how much I was laughing 🤣🤣🤣 it plane noise makes it even more epic now lmao
It's still funny how Vince managed to pair up a supposed Arab American with an Iranian American and sold together as a team even though arab and iranian hate each other in reality. :ROFLMAO:
 
I watched a 10 min review of Revolution on Wrestletalk's yt channel and i still don't get how they mark out for AEW as if its the greatest thing in the world. What's up with all these British yt channels being megamarks for AEW? i am still trying to find a yt channel who is not a megamark of AEW based on what Meltzer propagates. cultaholic, wrestletalk(apart from Oli Davis), whatculture (apart from Simon Miller) etc etc all of them love and defend AEW like they are shareholders.
Chris Van Vliet is the only one who is sorta unbiased but he doesn't do reviews.
Wrestleshorts is an awesome yt channel. He makes animation clips of matches and does Mauro Ranallo's commentary impressions over it. His clips are pretty funny.
@RedwoodOriginal @shaz619
 
Glad Roman is ok. Seriously Rollins can be such a bum the ways he’s reckless and injuring stars. Should have his finisher taken from him because one mistake, and as we saw, that finisher can easily cause injuries. Give him Hogan Leg Drop instead.
 
I watched a 10 min review of Revolution on Wrestletalk's yt channel and i still don't get how they mark out for AEW as if its the greatest thing in the world. What's up with all these British yt channels being megamarks for AEW? i am still trying to find a yt channel who is not a megamark of AEW based on what Meltzer propagates. cultaholic, wrestletalk(apart from Oli Davis), whatculture (apart from Simon Miller) etc etc all of them love and defend AEW like they are shareholders.
Chris Van Vliet is the only one who is sorta unbiased but he doesn't do reviews.
Wrestleshorts is an awesome yt channel. He makes animation clips of matches and does Mauro Ranallo's commentary impressions over it. His clips are pretty funny.
@RedwoodOriginal @shaz619
AEW marks are a different lot. They think they have to support AEW no matter what simply because its the little guy in this fight against the behemoth WWE. To play devil's advocate for a second though, I will say that Revolution was one of the better shows they have done in a long while. Besides the terrible main-event there were plenty of excellent matches on the card: MJF v Hangman Page, Ospreay v Fletcher, Omega v Takeshita. Toni Storm v Mariah May may have been one of the best women's gimmick matches I've seen - though there isn't exactly alot to choose from.

I generally bury them for their mistakes but have to credit them for putting on PPV card with a proper build this time. Even the terrible main-event with Mox and Edge had been built-up for a good couple of months. After a long time, they were able to deliver their USP, which is a high-quality PPV wrestling card with minimum fluff.

As for YT wrestling channels, I'll check that one out. Currently, I only follow OSW Review and Cornette.
 
@shaz619 I love ripping on AEW, but as JC would say, sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

Check out this hype video for MJF v Hangman Page. You might recognize the song Tony licensed here from all your hours of playing Smackdown v RAW 2007.


I wish WWE would license more nu metal songs instead of the contemporary rap crap they use on all their PPVs. This video for instance just hits different and reminds me of some of the best hype packages from the Ruthless Aggression era.
 
AEW marks are a different lot. They think they have to support AEW no matter what simply because its the little guy in this fight against the behemoth WWE. To play devil's advocate for a second though, I will say that Revolution was one of the better shows they have done in a long while. Besides the terrible main-event there were plenty of excellent matches on the card: MJF v Hangman Page, Ospreay v Fletcher, Omega v Takeshita. Toni Storm v Mariah May may have been one of the best women's gimmick matches I've seen - though there isn't exactly alot to choose from.

I generally bury them for their mistakes but have to credit them for putting on PPV card with a proper build this time. Even the terrible main-event with Mox and Edge had been built-up for a good couple of months. After a long time, they were able to deliver their USP, which is a high-quality PPV wrestling card with minimum fluff.

As for YT wrestling channels, I'll check that one out. Currently, I only follow OSW Review and Cornette.
I don't get how it is even a fight vs WWE. WWE is a global empire while AEW is only held in select few arenas in US. Isn't Dynamite and Collision held in one fixed arena every week in Florida? They don't have a developmental system, house shows etc. Even their PPV aren't as much as what WWE does which is roughly 1 ppv every month. I have watched a few angles and promos from Mox in last few months and I still don't get his word salad or what he's trying to do. I feel his work was a lot better when Bryan was around. Edge is still pretty sharp in the ring still.
 
I don't get how it is even a fight vs WWE. WWE is a global empire while AEW is only held in select few arenas in US. Isn't Dynamite and Collision held in one fixed arena every week in Florida? They don't have a developmental system, house shows etc. Even their PPV aren't as much as what WWE does which is roughly 1 ppv every month. I have watched a few angles and promos from Mox in last few months and I still don't get his word salad or what he's trying to do. I feel his work was a lot better when Bryan was around. Edge is still pretty sharp in the ring still.
They definitely shouldn't be deluding themselves into thinking they are even in the same stratosphere as WWE. Especially in the last couple of years, when WWE has reached new heights; creatively and financially. That said, there is definitely room for them to be an alternative brand. Problem is, bad booking has damaged that prospect too.

No they run a different arena every week, generally. Sometimes they'll tape Collision the same night as Dynamite.

Mox is doing some of the all-time worst work of his career. What he is doing is basically his version of The Bloodline with Claudio, PAC, Marina Shafir and Wheeler Yuta. Only, he is not Roman Reigns and while alot of this crap may sound good in his head, in execution, it is absolute death. It's a long-term storyline that has been going on since October of last year that is killing viewership and interest in the company. Even the AEW diehards are in agreement now that it is really bad. Edge is guilty by association because he has been heavily involved in it for the past couple of months.

Besides that are a few good things going on in AEW right now like Hangman Page v MJF. But sadly, alot of it is overshadowed by this Death Riders storyline that dominates the show.
 

This press conference reinforced why I hate The Rock so much now and think he is a complete phony.

It was an all-time great angle and The Rock was great in it. But let's be honest, Cena was still going to turn heel whether The Rock was going to be there or not.

What's funny to me is his justification for that schizophrenic promo on SmackDown, where he kept bouncing back and forth between being a heel and a babyface- that I thought was absolute trash. His justification is basically that 'I want to be liked as person while playing a cool persona on-screen.'

There's also no doubt about the fact that he is the one responsible for letting that idiot Travis Scott bust up Cody's eardrum.

So yeah, The Rock can STILL go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
 
That was a pretty fantastic main-event. Nice way to
give Rollins a win, without hurting Punk, while setting up the three-way at WrestleMania.

The last 5 mins of so of the post-match was just pure cinema lol. I think this could be an interesting storyline going into Mania.
 
@shaz619 I love ripping on AEW, but as JC would say, sometimes even a blind squirrel finds a nut.

Check out this hype video for MJF v Hangman Page. You might recognize the song Tony licensed here from all your hours of playing Smackdown v RAW 2007.


I wish WWE would license more nu metal songs instead of the contemporary rap crap they use on all their PPVs. This video for instance just hits different and reminds me of some of the best hype packages from the Ruthless Aggression era.

Great throwback video package tbh MJF looks hungry, I can’t take dumb phuck seriously however and in a company which is obsessed with owning names of wrestlers and everything else, they wont go back to such music and stick to the generic content and random mumble rap. If MJF ever does jump ship I hope he protects his brand.
 
He was released 1 or 2 weeks before he was scheduled to win a title in NXT i remember.

Vince had a good relationship with Mustafa, just had odd ideas with his push. He did punish him at times but H just released him altogether because he’s a racist & Islamophobe.
 
I watched a 10 min review of Revolution on Wrestletalk's yt channel and i still don't get how they mark out for AEW as if its the greatest thing in the world. What's up with all these British yt channels being megamarks for AEW? i am still trying to find a yt channel who is not a megamark of AEW based on what Meltzer propagates. cultaholic, wrestletalk(apart from Oli Davis), whatculture (apart from Simon Miller) etc etc all of them love and defend AEW like they are shareholders.
Chris Van Vliet is the only one who is sorta unbiased but he doesn't do reviews.
Wrestleshorts is an awesome yt channel. He makes animation clips of matches and does Mauro Ranallo's commentary impressions over it. His clips are pretty funny.
@RedwoodOriginal @shaz619

I will never have the bandwidth for AEW after what happened with Punk, but my trusted sources suggest it was a good event, ruined by cluster F off a finish during the main event, you never want to send a crowd home like that, or those who still buy PPV’s.
 

This press conference reinforced why I hate The Rock so much now and think he is a complete phony.

It was an all-time great angle and The Rock was great in it. But let's be honest, Cena was still going to turn heel whether The Rock was going to be there or not.

What's funny to me is his justification for that schizophrenic promo on SmackDown, where he kept bouncing back and forth between being a heel and a babyface- that I thought was absolute trash. His justification is basically that 'I want to be liked as person while playing a cool persona on-screen.'

There's also no doubt about the fact that he is the one responsible for letting that idiot Travis Scott bust up Cody's eardrum.

So yeah, The Rock can STILL go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

I’m not as off about it as yourself but I understand your POV, I think The Rock is treating the WWE like he’s making a movie, that has its pro’s and cons but he should know better, because he wasn’t bought up in the business like this.
 
That was a pretty fantastic main-event. Nice way to
give Rollins a win, without hurting Punk, while setting up the three-way at WrestleMania.

The last 5 mins of so of the post-match was just pure cinema lol. I think this could be an interesting storyline going into Mania.

What a cage match, it built up so well, MSG is a tough crowd as you know and they were up for this more then anything else during the show. Punk’s ring IQ is simply on another level to everyone he works with and he has an uncanny ability of squeezing the best out of his opponents. Proper old school cage match, used the environment well and it was more about the violence then the win, but then when things got heated it became more and more about the victory to. I love nothing more then a clean finish in a cage match (I pray every day that I may get one in the WWE in this era), but I understand the overbooking; ultimately, Reigns stole that W from Rollins, he might have won, but he didn’t really win, and nothing will hurt Rollins more than his moment being taken away when he had the man he hates with a passion on the ropes. When I saw the scuffle after RR, I was excited; I think they can sell this and I know you disagree but I hope this is the main event on Night 1.
 
Do you guys remember when H thought CM Punk was going to agree a match with 4/10 at WM 30, so he decided to book a handicap match where Punk went over clean against the friggin Shield.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
 
I am excited for Stephanie Vasquer vs Gulia at the Theatre @ MSG, it is a bit rushed but I fear it’s because H is poaching on Shawn’s success and all his good work
 
Do you guys remember when H thought CM Punk was going to agree a match with 4/10 at WM 30, so he decided to book a handicap match where Punk went over clean against the friggin Shield.

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
It's funny since Punk wanted to lose that match.

Vince told him that's he's suppose to win the match but he needs to sell roman and make him look extremely OP.

And punk was like, Why don't I just let roman win and pin me? And vince was like no,

Win the match, embarras the shield but make roman look good 🤣
 
It's funny since Punk wanted to lose that match.

Vince told him that's he's suppose to win the match but he needs to sell roman and make him look extremely OP.

And punk was like, Why don't I just let roman win and pin me? And vince was like no,

Win the match, embarras the shield but make roman look good 🤣

I honestly believe it was a H inspired decision, they made it abundantly clear Punk was not going to main-event, it was obviously Bryan’s time and WWE didn’t really want that either, Punk was just disgruntled in general so their version of throwing him a bone was giving him a match with H. Punk just didn’t respect H on that level in the ring and saw working with him again as a huge backward step (there were other issues between two behind the scenes to), that match was designed to also make Punk look strong for H’s shovel at Mania
 
Who called his washed? Everyone jumped for joy when he returned at survivor series

There has been a vocal part off the wrestling community online who wrote him off, casuals will always support him but they didn’t expect this level and completely wrote him off when he got injured (even Cody was out for a long time when he came back). I didn’t have a doubt having watched one of the greatest baby face runs of this century in AEW, ironically that fanbase turned on him and look at their state now. Punk is no spring chicken and his body has a lot more wear/tear, but if you get even 6 months off this quality it should be appreciated, nobody can work like him.
 
There has been a vocal part off the wrestling community online who wrote him off, casuals will always support him but they didn’t expect this level and completely wrote him off when he got injured (even Cody was out for a long time when he came back). I didn’t have a doubt having watched one of the greatest baby face runs of this century in AEW, ironically that fanbase turned on him and look at their state now. Punk is no spring chicken and his body has a lot more wear/tear, but if you get even 6 months off this quality it should be appreciated, nobody can work like him.
He's 46? Not 66. 46 is not the age to be washed up as a wrestler.

Undertaker could have wrestled even now, and so could sting however seth rollins shortened sting's career and despite an aew revival he was forced to retire.

And Undertaker took too much damage due to being unlucky. Rey mysterio broke his nose, he landed in a horrible position against micheals at mania, Brock was a bit too harsh on the deadman at wrestlemania and over did it then Goldberg nearly broke his neck.

46 is nothing for a wrestler who's in tip top shape.
 
He's 46? Not 66. 46 is not the age to be washed up as a wrestler.

Undertaker could have wrestled even now, and so could sting however seth rollins shortened sting's career and despite an aew revival he was forced to retire.

And Undertaker took too much damage due to being unlucky. Rey mysterio broke his nose, he landed in a horrible position against micheals at mania, Brock was a bit too harsh on the deadman at wrestlemania and over did it then Goldberg nearly broke his neck.

46 is nothing for a wrestler who's in tip top shape.

He’s in the final phase of his career, I think some of the wrestlers who go on into their 50’s paint a vivid picture of how capable their ring abilities are. And the other thing to consider is how long Punk had been away from wrestling, there’s so much you can lose as a performer and he put his body through those harsh UFC camps after being mistreated physically by WWE towards the end of his last run. So I can get why people felt a certain way, his haters certainly were praying for his failure. But he’s a special talent.

Sting had to be protected in tag matches in AEW (Rollins is a re!ard but it was also his age because you don’t take bumps like you use to in your prime and it made Sting re-think his approach when he left WWE), with Taker you need to watch The Last Ride Documentary to see what he put himself through; he would have loved to retire 5 years earlier, he kept going on because he didn’t want fans to remember him as a shadow of himself, he wanted to have a match that made people think; hmm maybe he can have one more? And he achieved that with the Styles match when fans like you think he could still go, that’s what he wanted. Getting ready for one or two matches a year is brutal, your body switches off and you no longer heal faster, he had to delay hip surgery before that match with Reigns, Vince kept begging him to do that one match per year which didn’t help his longevity.
 
He’s in the final phase of his career, I think some of the wrestlers who go on into their 50’s paint a vivid picture of how capable their ring abilities are. And the other thing to consider is how long Punk had been away from wrestling, there’s so much you can lose as a performer and he put his body through those harsh UFC camps after being mistreated physically by WWE towards the end of his last run. So I can get why people felt a certain way, his haters certainly were praying for his failure. But he’s a special talent.

Sting had to be protected in tag matches in AEW (Rollins is a re!ard but it was also his age because you don’t take bumps like you use to in your prime and it made Sting re-think his approach when he left WWE), with Taker you need to watch The Last Ride Documentary to see what he put himself through; he would have loved to retire 5 years earlier, he kept going on because he didn’t want fans to remember him as a shadow of himself, he wanted to have a match that made people think; hmm maybe he can have one more? And he achieved that with the Styles match when fans like you think he could still go, that’s what he wanted. Getting ready for one or two matches a year is brutal, your body switches off and you no longer heal faster, he had to delay hip surgery before that match with Reigns, Vince kept begging him to do that one match per year which didn’t help his longevity.
And he did undergo hip replacement after Mania 33. Wrestling with prosthetic hip bones in your body must be something extremely painful and risky as your body can't move the way with prosthetics the way it does with natural skeleton.
 
And he did undergo hip replacement after Mania 33. Wrestling with prosthetic hip bones in your body must be something extremely painful and risky as your body can't move the way with prosthetics the way it does with natural skeleton.

These aspects the wider audience don’t appreciate enough and which is why we have a special bond with pro-wrestling, there are few throwback wrestlers these days though and in this era, I doubt anyone would put themselves through what Taker did. Even the Goldberg documentary was interesting, he was his own worst enemy but I understood the pressure off wanting to be that guy in his prime at his age, Goldberg with his low ring IQ always pushed it too far though, but the programme with Lesnar was top notch.
 
It's funny since Punk wanted to lose that match.

Vince told him that's he's suppose to win the match but he needs to sell roman and make him look extremely OP.

And punk was like, Why don't I just let roman win and pin me? And vince was like no,

Win the match, embarras the shield but make roman look good 🤣
Vince: I want you to be Undertaker's opponent at WrestleMania

...after you beat three others in a Fatal Four Way to earn that opportunity.

Punk: :snothappy
 
I’m not as off about it as yourself but I understand your POV, I think The Rock is treating the WWE like he’s making a movie, that has its pro’s and cons but he should know better, because he wasn’t bought up in the business like this.
Lol what's funny is that he said like 90 times during this press conference that he was brought up in this business.
 
It’s going to be in Brussels, the crowd reaction will be very interesting lol
I'm starting to get the feeling that there will be more smarks in the crowd than we initially imagined. Because even on RAW last night Cena was getting some dueling chants during Cody's promo. Eventhough they were largely neagtive.

Tbh, I am not a fan of such people. I get the idea that you paid money and therefore apparently have the right to react as you please. But I can't say I agree with it. Just because you paid money doesn't give you the right to be a smarky p*ick who thinks he's being cool by chanting for the heel.

Same goes for the people who chant "What". I think there is a special place in hell for those people.
 
What a cage match, it built up so well, MSG is a tough crowd as you know and they were up for this more then anything else during the show. Punk’s ring IQ is simply on another level to everyone he works with and he has an uncanny ability of squeezing the best out of his opponents. Proper old school cage match, used the environment well and it was more about the violence then the win, but then when things got heated it became more and more about the victory to. I love nothing more then a clean finish in a cage match (I pray every day that I may get one in the WWE in this era), but I understand the overbooking; ultimately, Reigns stole that W from Rollins, he might have won, but he didn’t really win, and nothing will hurt Rollins more than his moment being taken away when he had the man he hates with a passion on the ropes. When I saw the scuffle after RR, I was excited; I think they can sell this and I know you disagree but I hope this is the main event on Night 1.
I am not a fan of guys kicking out of multiple finishers. It's done to the point of death in AEW. But here I felt like it actually worked because its not something you see very often in WWE, so when it happens it actually means something. I thought it helped in getting the point across that these guys are emptying their tanks and going to their absolute limits to not lose to the other guy. Most of all though, as you said, I loved that it was just an old-school cage match where guys were actually using the cage to hurt each other rather than bringing in weapons and furniture. Would have liked some blood but I guess you can't have everything. I did find it funny how they kept blacking out/turning away whenever these guys told each other to go F yourself. I thought we were on Netflix now and anything goes? Besides that, great way to set-up Mania and giving everyone motivation for hating each other.
 
Who called his washed? Everyone jumped for joy when he returned at survivor series
The internet wrestling community or whatever you want to call them has a large contingent of fans who think he's "locker-room cancer" because he beat up a couple of jobbers in AEW. Jobbers who think they are stars to their fanbase but couldn't draw a dime if their life depended on it.
 
I'm starting to get the feeling that there will be more smarks in the crowd than we initially imagined. Because even on RAW last night Cena was getting some dueling chants during Cody's promo. Eventhough they were largely neagtive.

Tbh, I am not a fan of such people. I get the idea that you paid money and therefore apparently have the right to react as you please. But I can't say I agree with it. Just because you paid money doesn't give you the right to be a smarky p*ick who thinks he's being cool by chanting for the heel.

Same goes for the people who chant "What". I think there is a special place in hell for those people.

I know what you mean, I went to a show in Manchester a while back; the one where Drew made Angle tap out and I left in anger not even bothered about the dark segment, but I was right at the back in the cheap seats and some annoying neck beard kept chanting for the Toma Tonga version out of shape, he was off his t!ts as well. But maybe this is what they want, a divisive crowd that’s going wild and I partly get it because we have waited this long for him to turn, it’s mad that after this he gets cheered but the casuals normally will drown out the boos. You seen all them kids crying 🤣 This is how I know Cody is basically set for life lol
 
"I don't have to work with you, you have to work with me." :kp

**Ring Ring Ring***

Hello err hello ermmmm, you know about that new video game errrrmmmm, who’s going on the cover errrrrrm?

Hello Mr. H, we’re going with CM Punk this year, he’s your biggest star and the numbers don’t lie for us.

*Silence*

Ermm, I think you want Sheamus errrrrm.

Sorry, what was that? Ernmm Sheamus, I said Sheamus. You want Ermmmm Sheamus on the cover.

***THQ Rep Hangs-Up***

🤡🤡🤡
 
I am not a fan of guys kicking out of multiple finishers. It's done to the point of death in AEW. But here I felt like it actually worked because its not something you see very often in WWE, so when it happens it actually means something. I thought it helped in getting the point across that these guys are emptying their tanks and going to their absolute limits to not lose to the other guy. Most of all though, as you said, I loved that it was just an old-school cage match where guys were actually using the cage to hurt each other rather than bringing in weapons and furniture. Would have liked some blood but I guess you can't have everything. I did find it funny how they kept blacking out/turning away whenever these guys told each other to go F yourself. I thought we were on Netflix now and anything goes? Besides that, great way to set-up Mania and giving everyone motivation for hating each other.

I agree there, and I wanted blood to and then I forgot about it 🤣 The finishers wouldn’t work were it not for the story and how desperate they got and that plex from the top was nice or how they didn’t go for a pin for some time. It was an untypical match for WWE. Lmao that was funny I saw that, did you watch it live? maybe the live stream didn’t blackout, but agreed, dumb move really on Netflix, would snickers really cancel their sponsorship based on that? H is a moron.
 
The internet wrestling community or whatever you want to call them has a large contingent of fans who think he's "locker-room cancer" because he beat up a couple of jobbers in AEW. Jobbers who think they are stars to their fanbase but couldn't draw a dime if their life depended on it.
Well those cases are different, that was a low point of his career,

He hilariously thought he could pull a brock lesnar and just wallop into mma when even brock underwent years of training and even then brock isn't the greatest in ufc, he was very good but he did lose 3x in a humilating fashion.

After that his blew it in AEW, but tbf, Aew just wasn't the environment for him either.

He's at his best in wwe, always has been and always will be. This dude has managed to put himself and so many people over and create iconic feuds.

Jeff hardy, John cena, Shield, Swth rollins, Rock. This dude is the king of turning ordinary feuds that wouldn't really have much impact into fantastic works of art.

As a kid he legitimately convinced me that he beat cena and just ran away with the title 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Similarly even as an adult, i actually thought he and seth were brawling for real. His acting is out of this world.
 
Well those cases are different, that was a low point of his career,

He hilariously thought he could pull a brock lesnar and just wallop into mma when even brock underwent years of training and even then brock isn't the greatest in ufc, he was very good but he did lose 3x in a humilating fashion.

After that his blew it in AEW, but tbf, Aew just wasn't the environment for him either.

He's at his best in wwe, always has been and always will be. This dude has managed to put himself and so many people over and create iconic feuds.

Jeff hardy, John cena, Shield, Swth rollins, Rock. This dude is the king of turning ordinary feuds that wouldn't really have much impact into fantastic works of art.

As a kid he legitimately convinced me that he beat cena and just ran away with the title 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Similarly even as an adult, i actually thought he and seth were brawling for real. His acting is out of this world.

I don’t think he was under any delusion about how challenging UFC would be, he was good mates with Dana White who thought he’d make some money off his name; Punk always thought about getting in the cage, wherever that might have been; the timing of the situation enabled the UFC gig. He got criticised for it, fair enough, but I respect Punk for chasing a crazy goal and actually getting in the cage, he has always been a big believer of people betting on themselves. I was actually proud of Punk as a wrestling fan because he showed how tough wrestlers are and even Conor McGregor said fairplay to Punk. For what it is worth; he shockingly won a round in his last fight scored by all judges in his favour :yk3 And since the UFC, he has beaten at least three wrestlers in backstage fights :afridi

Lesnar imo is an ATG UFC HW, Lesnar had an amateur wrestling background from his college days, but even by his standards, he got into the sport way too late and was still very successful and a huge draw. Truly a freak of nature.

Am not sure if you watched his AEW run and I wouldn’t be shocked if social media paint a terrible image because there was so much drama with him there and AEW as a company is extremely unprofessional it’s basically worse then the PCB as an organisation and it takes a lot to say that. However, if you purely focus on his ring work, rivalries and promo’s; it was one of the greatest baby face runs of this century and the best comeback since HBK in 2002.

I agree with you that he was always best suited to something like the current WWE environment, but to get there, I think it made sense that he got all the bad demons within exorcised by just working with AEW, it’s almost like AEW was his purgatory from my favourite show of all time LOST @RedwoodOriginal , like he had to go through all that before he could be accepted in a better place. :akhtar
 
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