[VIDEOS] Babar Azam's inability to play spin is a matter of concern

Pakistani fans are used to having their best batters being ruthless against spinners. Miandad, Zaheer, Saleem, Inzi (he struggled against Warne), Yousaf and Younis all being brilliant against spinners. Babar is the first one who isn't as good against spinners like they used to. It's one reason why it looks that marked out to us.
 
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Embarrassing failure for Babar against Mujeeb in the 1st ODI

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Any kind of spin his a sitting duck & always wastes a review for good measure.
 
every time Babar comes out to bat they bring a spinner on, lol what a joke man. He comes across as someone that doesn’t look to improve on their game.
 
every time Babar comes out to bat they bring a spinner on, lol what a joke man. He comes across as someone that doesn’t look to improve on their game.
He is lacking intend to win game. Infact i didn't see fire in Pakistani team this World Cup.
 
Looks like superstar has not learned anything or improved his game against spin in 4 years.

He is highly overrated. Anyone who compares him to Kohli needs to get their head examined.
 
Years of playing international cricket, and only the century against NZ stands out as a match winning knock in a chase, and even that was a low scoring game. King of scoring soft runs
 
Yep, him and Rizwan do struggle against spin.

Azhar is very competent against them and Fawad is great.

The openers can't say much about, but pretty certain they are useless against both anyway.
Since this post.

Rizwan has improved, whilst babar is still vulnerable.

Really poor from a world class batsman, no motivation to improve his game.
 
Fans chin up... Next match versus Bangla boys.. Lumber 1 batsman is going to smack them and increase his rating points.
 
Babar's struggle against spin is a bit concerning recently. He looks totally lost and is playing every delivery on backfoot. He need to learn.
 
First six of the tournament by him, against a spinner!
 
How can anyone consider him the number one batsman in the world with such glaring issues in his style of play?
 
Shamsi worked him over today.

Played a shot that he isn't comfortable playing and gone!

Awful innings.
 
Shamsi worked him over today.

Played a shot that he isn't comfortable playing and gone!

Awful innings.

It's not just Shamsi. Babar has been completely at sea against the likes of Kuldeep, Jadeja, Zampa, Noor, Mujeeb, Rashid as well. They have been able to tie him down successfully. He has had a totally impactless WC in what is supposed to be his prime years ie mid twenties.

He has badly regressed as a player in the last few years.
 
Didn't say the same after 4 spinners of all kinds he played 3 days ago :D
When 50 is a failure for a batter, you know how huge his stature is. That 6 on the backfoot was bigger than some choker's whole career.
Don’t worry. This too shall pass.

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Babar has been brutally exposed and the bubble has burst, but B and C attacks will soon be back in town and he can pretend to be the best batsman in the world again.
 
Not supporting Babar but want to point out here that technology got it wrong today on Babar's dismissal. As clearly pointed out on that split screen the thumb was far from the ball yet a spike on technology. 3rd umpire should have used some common sense there rather than being trigger happy on a spike.
 
Not supporting Babar but want to point out here that technology got it wrong today on Babar's dismissal. As clearly pointed out on that split screen the thumb was far from the ball yet a spike on technology. 3rd umpire should have used some common sense there rather than being trigger happy on a spike.

I am sorry but for such a hyped up batsman and for the team captain in a must win game 50 off 65 deliveries was a pathetic effort. He was looking all at sea against Shamsi and never looked comfortable
 
I am sorry but for such a hyped up batsman and for the team captain in a must win game 50 off 65 deliveries was a pathetic effort. He was looking all at sea against Shamsi and never looked comfortable
I'm not supporting Babar. I personally believe he has been a massive let down across the tournament not just in this game.

What I'm trying to point out is that we are so technology driven nowadays that we chose to ignore basic common sense things. Like today the umpire chose to ignore the distance between thumb and ball and proceeded to make a decision based off spike. Perhaps there should be a human element when controlling technology to avoid mishaps like these.
 
Babar's record in ICC tournament is not good tbh. He can make it better here but he is giving his wicket away too easily.
 
Babar is so lucky that he barely played in the UAE era of Pakistan cricket, because he would be averaging less than 40 in all formats, if he played on the spin friendly UAE wickets.
 
You know what confuses me. Babar has so many guys that can guide him on how to play spin.

Younis Khan, Sarfraz and Saud are all superb players of spin so why doesn't he try to learn from them. For me it seems as if he is to stubborn to learn from the best and that is what has resulted in his downfall
 
Babar is so lucky that he barely played in the UAE era of Pakistan cricket, because he would be averaging less than 40 in all formats, if he played on the spin friendly UAE wickets.
Babar scored 5 consecutive tons in 5 games in UAE. :)
 
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Westendies had badree and benn in that team and the other team was SL that always had a good spin attack.
Samuel Badree didn't play a single ODI in his career and was a pretty average spinner, even in T20.

Suleiman Benn, :ROFLMAO:, oh yes, he is a great spinner.

And facing great Sri Lankan spinners like Vandersay and Milinda Siriwardana:salute
 
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It’s ok to struggle against it but it’s not ok to be stagnant at playing spin.
 
Babar's strike rate against spin this WC is 63.48
He better improve this against Bangladesh
 
Babar's strike rate against spin this WC is 63.48
He better improve this against Bangladesh

For someone with Elite standards and Mindset Bangladesh should not even count.
 
I would advise Babar to open up his stance to avoid the pad being struck with a straight ball and I would advise that he bring his feet closer together like the classical way to allow him to go back and be more balanced
 
since babar azam cant handle spin well, so against Bangladesh who are heavy on their spin attack, what approach babar will adopt, attacking or defensive? or we are going to witness another failure of babar against spin?
 
He should be held to the same standard as the rest of the team. He has not batted as the best batsman in the team for a long long time. Such grotesque incompetence against spin does not merit such hype.

He should be dropped from the team with clear directives to work on his strength, power game to be considered for the limited overs format again.
 
Biggest beneficiary of lack of bilateral tests vs India. Imagine Babar padding up against Kuldeep, Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar on Indian turners. I don't think he can handle that quality of spin even on the flattest of roads.

All previous Pak batting greats were brilliant against spin.
 
Biggest beneficiary of lack of bilateral tests vs India. Imagine Babar padding up against Kuldeep, Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar on Indian turners. I don't think he can handle that quality of spin even on the flattest of roads.

All previous Pak batting greats were brilliant against spin.
Maybe, but he would have learnt after a few humiliations.
 
I think his brain has become scrambled after the failures. He needs to have a sweep or a slog sweep to relieve the pressure but he seems to be quite stiff when getting down.
 
Not supporting Babar but want to point out here that technology got it wrong today on Babar's dismissal. As clearly pointed out on that split screen the thumb was far from the ball yet a spike on technology. 3rd umpire should have used some common sense there rather than being trigger happy on a spike.
Pakistan should thank it's luck. If babar was there, who knows Pak could have been lost today due to rising RR. It was actually blessings in disguise.
 
I think his brain has become scrambled after the failures. He needs to have a sweep or a slog sweep to relieve the pressure but he seems to be quite stiff when getting down.
They showed a few clips of him practicing in the nets vs spin and he looked awful there too, trying cute shots and getting bowled.
 
They showed a few clips of him practicing in the nets vs spin and he looked awful there too, trying cute shots and getting bowled.
I saw that, but that shows where he is at the moment. There us no quick fix, needs to get a game together that will work for him and practice relentlessly. I would advise to open his Stance against the left armer spinners, I would also advise him to bring his feet closer together like in the classical sense to give him more balance.
 
Should be dropped altogether from the team in white ball formats imo.

It would have been absolutely unthinkable at one point but sadly such is the state of affairs now.
I genuinely believe he is now completely dispensable. Bring in any other batter in his place and I can guarantee you we won't be worse off.

He adds nothing special and infact creates a giant figurative hole of expectations which his mediocre outputs don't even begin to fill.
 
After the World Cup, he needs to be stripped of captaincy and be told to improve his batting or risk getting dropped. He should be held to the same standards as other batsmen. No player should get a free ride in the team.
 
As long as he remains a wuss against spin & continues with this cowardly meek timid deadbat approach he will fail till the end of the time.

The best way to succeed against a spinner is to attack, to dismantle his line & length. That doesn't mean he has to attempt six hitting in every 3 balls, which frankly he doesn't even have the ability to do also. It means he needs to be proactive, always try to rotate strike, use his feet more, never let the spinner settle down & of course show no mercy to a loose delivery. Needs to cut down this excessive dot balls, the way he eats them in literally every match is frustrating & stupid.

Sachin or Lara didn't become nightmares for Murali or Warne by simply nudging & hiding, they dominated them, always kept the scoreboard ticking, didn't let them go just based on their reputation.

Hell he can improve himself a lot by simply watching tapes of Anwar, Inzy, Yousuf & Younus's handling of Kumble/Harbhajan on spicy Indian tracks.
 
Pakistan should thank it's luck. If babar was there, who knows Pak could have been lost today due to rising RR. It was actually blessings in disguise.
Off late, that's been the story, isn't it? The longer he stays on the crease the more the momentum gets sucked up. Since last year's asia cup, it seems the quicker he gets dismissed the more his team's chances get increased.
 
Seems like Babar might be fighting a few inner demons at the moment.
After the World Cup, it might be in his best interest to purely focus on his batting without the burden of captaincy.
 
Only way to get back to his best is to get rid of the captaincy and take a quiet month or two of focus in the nets.

We need Babar the imperious batsman, not the mediocre low IQ captain.
 
Biggest beneficiary of lack of bilateral tests vs India. Imagine Babar padding up against Kuldeep, Ashwin, Jadeja, Axar on Indian turners. I don't think he can handle that quality of spin even on the flattest of roads.

All previous Pak batting greats were brilliant against spin.
if India and Pak bilateral test series wasn't stopped , His Career would've ended in tests🤣till now and his avg won't have went more than 10 In that test series.
 
Should be dropped altogether from the team in white ball formats imo.

It would have been absolutely unthinkable at one point but sadly such is the state of affairs now.
I genuinely believe he is now completely dispensable. Bring in any other batter in his place and I can guarantee you we won't be worse off.

He adds nothing special and infact creates a giant figurative hole of expectations which his mediocre outputs don't even begin to fill.

Completely agree. I would say this World Cup has exposed him as a batsman who averages 40 with a strike rate of 80. All the minnow bashing and runs from the underpowered teams has inflated his batting average and strike rate to mid 50s and high 80s respectively.

Abdullah Shafique had only played a handful of List A matches before this tournament yet he looks like a far more accomplished batsman.
 
When will precisely that right time arrive?
He wasn't saying about this worldcup, He was saying about tournament that will take place after
Worldcup where best teams will participate Like Zimbambe, Nepal, Kenya, Bermuda , Bangladesh. Babar is king he will make several record against these teams. Worldcup is for minnow team ,QDk, Warner, Rohit ,Kohli are are making runs against minnow teams.
 
Babar needs to open with Fakhar and Abdullah should come one down. Babar is weak against spin but very gifted against genuine pace so might as well utilize him up the order.
 
After this World Cup, Bobby needs to go back home, work in the nets on square turning pitches against the best domestic spinners and practice playing spin without wearing pads.
 
Someone should tell babar azam that his no. 1 ranking is in danger with gill closing in to dethrone him... Maybe after that babar starts scoring runs..
 
Completely agree. I would say this World Cup has exposed him as a batsman who averages 40 with a strike rate of 80. All the minnow bashing and runs from the underpowered teams has inflated his batting average and strike rate to mid 50s and high 80s respectively.

Abdullah Shafique had only played a handful of List A matches before this tournament yet he looks like a far more accomplished batsman.
Bruh this was obvious. Unlike odi where the new 2 ball system is a joke, test is one format where the old ancient rules remain, and Abdullah and saud have frequently embrassed imam, Babar and rizzu in that format.

Yes test =/= odi otherwise yk would be a odi goat, but the 2 new ball system and the new pp system makes odi ironically the easiest format from both t20 and test.

Just look at every tournament babar has been where he's forced to play a sides.

2017= Does nothing until semi and finals and soft scores in both. In semi's he scored when match was already won by fakhar and in final, Hafeez and imad carried on from fakhar and azhar master class, babar was a footnote.

2019= only one NZ innings was good, however that innings was an anchor and go through innings, not a domination innings like fakhar played in 2017 or what quiton, Warner, Sharma, Ravidra, Makram and kohli have played in this world cup.

2021 wc: Good anchor innings against India but vanishes for the rest of the tourney and scores a match losing innings against aus in semi final 39 of 34 lol.

2022 wc: Beyond hilarious, only one 53 against nz in semi final, otherwise vanishes through and through especially in the final.

2023 Asia cup= Does nothing besides bullying Nepal lol.

2023 wc: Scored 3 match losing 50's

Babar has clearly been exposed in test due to his inability to play the soft ball and his inability to play spin since abrar being succesful in test is due to it spinning more. He's also clearly been exposed with actual A string sides in pressure situations since 2017.

3 consequetive centuries against wi and aus d tier was enough to convince fans ig.

I told people this time and time again, Fakhar inform and even now that he's fit again is superior to babar, The fact that babar just said if falhar bats 20 overs we win, like bro why do you need fakhar hand holding? Shouldn't the no 1 batter in the world have the same impact?

Fakhar's 114, 194 is beyond anything babar cam ever do as that was achieved against top tier Indian and sa sides. 200 achieved against Zimbabwe whereas balloon boy imam made molasses 100's against them.

Fakhar's lack of form for the past 10 matches was due to fitness and injury, now that he's back he showed why he's still the best batter for Pakistan period. Babar is a fraud.

Fakhar's 45 avg and 92SR was achieved playing fearless cricket and playing for the team, Babar 57 avg and 89 sr was achieved by being spineless and minnow bashing.
 
Bruh this was obvious. Unlike odi where the new 2 ball system is a joke, test is one format where the old ancient rules remain, and Abdullah and saud have frequently embrassed imam, Babar and rizzu in that format.

Yes test =/= odi otherwise yk would be a odi goat, but the 2 new ball system and the new pp system makes odi ironically the easiest format from both t20 and test.

Just look at every tournament babar has been where he's forced to play a sides.

2017= Does nothing until semi and finals and soft scores in both. In semi's he scored when match was already won by fakhar and in final, Hafeez and imad carried on from fakhar and azhar master class, babar was a footnote.

2019= only one NZ innings was good, however that innings was an anchor and go through innings, not a domination innings like fakhar played in 2017 or what quiton, Warner, Sharma, Ravidra, Makram and kohli have played in this world cup.

2021 wc: Good anchor innings against India but vanishes for the rest of the tourney and scores a match losing innings against aus in semi final 39 of 34 lol.

2022 wc: Beyond hilarious, only one 53 against nz in semi final, otherwise vanishes through and through especially in the final.

2023 Asia cup= Does nothing besides bullying Nepal lol.

2023 wc: Scored 3 match losing 50's

Babar has clearly been exposed in test due to his inability to play the soft ball and his inability to play spin since abrar being succesful in test is due to it spinning more. He's also clearly been exposed with actual A string sides in pressure situations since 2017.

3 consequetive centuries against wi and aus d tier was enough to convince fans ig.

I told people this time and time again, Fakhar inform and even now that he's fit again is superior to babar, The fact that babar just said if falhar bats 20 overs we win, like bro why do you need fakhar hand holding? Shouldn't the no 1 batter in the world have the same impact?

Fakhar's 114, 194 is beyond anything babar cam ever do as that was achieved against top tier Indian and sa sides. 200 achieved against Zimbabwe whereas balloon boy imam made molasses 100's against them.

Fakhar's lack of form for the past 10 matches was due to fitness and injury, now that he's back he showed why he's still the best batter for Pakistan period. Babar is a fraud.

Fakhar's 45 avg and 92SR was achieved playing fearless cricket and playing for the team, Babar 57 avg and 89 sr was achieved by being spineless and minnow bashing.
You know if Babar somehow manages to score one of his typical zero impactful 85 s/r hundreds in next two matches the fanboys will come at you really hard for this post😬. They might announce an all out war against all the "haters" for having the audacity to doubt the almighty king.

Including current wc he has taken part in 8 major tournaments so far across formats. Apart from 19 wc & if you are gracious enough to put the strike rate debate aside(in a format where strike rate matters most!) 21 t20 wc were the only two occasions where he atleast managed to accumulate runs. Forget impact, intent or match winning caliber I am simply emphasising on accumulating runs & mindless statpadding. The one thing which is his expertise. But it's obvious in tournaments he can't even do that. Probably gives an idea on what ridiculous proportion this man has been hyped over last 4 years or so. This is why I don't get shocked at all everytime I see him fail, because he is a very predictable, limited package whose biggest strength is something not related with the ground. It's the massive pr con job & rabid immature fanbase that has kept this entire facade going for this long. Very few cricketers have benefitted themselves by manipulating social media as much as him & some of his friends.
 
You know if Babar somehow manages to score one of his typical zero impactful 85 s/r hundreds in next two matches the fanboys will come at you really hard for this post😬. They might announce an all out war against all the "haters" for having the audacity to doubt the almighty king.

Including current wc he has taken part in 8 major tournaments so far across formats. Apart from 19 wc & if you are gracious enough to put the strike rate debate aside(in a format where strike rate matters most!) 21 t20 wc were the only two occasions where he atleast managed to accumulate runs. Forget impact, intent or match winning caliber I am simply emphasising on accumulating runs & mindless statpadding. The one thing which is his expertise. But it's obvious in tournaments he can't even do that. Probably gives an idea on what ridiculous proportion this man has been hyped over last 4 years or so. This is why I don't get shocked at all everytime I see him fail, because he is a very predictable, limited package whose biggest strength is something not related with the ground. It's the massive pr con job & rabid immature fanbase that has kept this entire facade going for this long. Very few cricketers have benefitted themselves by manipulating social media as much as him & some of his friends.

I am fully aware that they'll attack me like crazy. They literally attacked me for saying quinton de kock is > Rizwan because rizzu scored a 131, even though qdk already had 2 centuries under his belt.

That's Pakistan fans in a nutshell. One performance is enough to attack someone and just forgive every sin babar and rizwan has ever done or committed.

Despite playing match losing innings and flanking out of 2 finals and one semi final, one soft score will be enough and if babar manages to win everyone will be hailing him as an all time goat captain 😂😂
 
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