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[VIDEOS] Babar Azam's inability to play spin is a matter of concern

mominsaigol said:
Bruh this was obvious. Unlike odi where the new 2 ball system is a joke, test is one format where the old ancient rules remain, and Abdullah and saud have frequently embrassed imam, Babar and rizzu in that format.

Yes test =/= odi otherwise yk would be a odi goat, but the 2 new ball system and the new pp system makes odi ironically the easiest format from both t20 and test.

Just look at every tournament babar has been where he's forced to play a sides.

2017= Does nothing until semi and finals and soft scores in both. In semi's he scored when match was already won by fakhar and in final, Hafeez and imad carried on from fakhar and azhar master class, babar was a footnote.

2019= only one NZ innings was good, however that innings was an anchor and go through innings, not a domination innings like fakhar played in 2017 or what quiton, Warner, Sharma, Ravidra, Makram and kohli have played in this world cup.

2021 wc: Good anchor innings against India but vanishes for the rest of the tourney and scores a match losing innings against aus in semi final 39 of 34 lol.

2022 wc: Beyond hilarious, only one 53 against nz in semi final, otherwise vanishes through and through especially in the final.

2023 Asia cup= Does nothing besides bullying Nepal lol.

2023 wc: Scored 3 match losing 50's

Babar has clearly been exposed in test due to his inability to play the soft ball and his inability to play spin since abrar being succesful in test is due to it spinning more. He's also clearly been exposed with actual A string sides in pressure situations since 2017.

3 consequetive centuries against wi and aus d tier was enough to convince fans ig.

I told people this time and time again, Fakhar inform and even now that he's fit again is superior to babar, The fact that babar just said if falhar bats 20 overs we win, like bro why do you need fakhar hand holding? Shouldn't the no 1 batter in the world have the same impact?

Fakhar's 114, 194 is beyond anything babar cam ever do as that was achieved against top tier Indian and sa sides. 200 achieved against Zimbabwe whereas balloon boy imam made molasses 100's against them.

Fakhar's lack of form for the past 10 matches was due to fitness and injury, now that he's back he showed why he's still the best batter for Pakistan period. Babar is a fraud.

Fakhar's 45 avg and 92SR was achieved playing fearless cricket and playing for the team, Babar 57 avg and 89 sr was achieved by being spineless and minnow bashing.
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It's obvious for us but before the WC there were a number of blind cheerleaders on cloud 9 all because of Babar's ODI and T20 standing in those rankings. It comes to no surprise that's they disappeared from the face of the earth.

Also, there are some people who still believe in Babar's stats but just think he's a mental midget in big tournaments. However, he's not even good enough to be classed as a mental midget because this World Cup has exposed his inabilities against first string spin bowlers.

The fans need to realise he's a 40 averaging batsman with a strike rate of 80 against first string attacks. He's aesthetically pleasing and technically very sound against pace however we were also told the same thing about Asad Shafiq in test cricket and we then saw how that turned out.

@VForVendetta made a very good point about PCB's PR con job. This is what PCB do best. They did this when they tried to market the "16 year old" Naseem shah.
Babar Azam is the ODI version of Asad Shafiq and should be compared to Temba Bavuma in white ball cricket.

When I look at the failures of Babar, Nawaz and etc - for me that's divine justice. It's what the Pakistan team deserve for how they've treated players like Imad, Saim Ayub and perhaps Tayaab Tahir as well.
 
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topspin said:
It's obvious for us but before the WC there were a number of blind cheerleaders on cloud 9 all because of Babar's ODI and T20 standing in those rankings. It comes to no surprise that's they disappeared from the face of the earth.

Also, there are some people who still believe in Babar's stats but just think he's a mental midget in big tournaments. However, he's not even good enough to be classed as a mental midget because this World Cup has exposed his inabilities against first string spin bowlers.

The fans need to realise he's a 40 averaging batsman with a strike rate of 80 against first string attacks. He's aesthetically pleasing and technically very sound against pace however we were also told the same thing about Asad Shafiq in test cricket and we then saw how that turned out.

@VForVendetta made a very good point about PCB's PR con job. This is what PCB do best. They did this when they tried to market the "16 year old" Naseem shah.
Babar Azam is the ODI version of Asad Shafiq and should be compared to Temba Bavuma in white ball cricket.

When I look at the failures of Babar, Nawaz and etc - for me that's divine justice. It's what the Pakistan team deserve for how they've treated players like Imad, Saim Ayub and perhaps Tayaab Tahir as well.
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Babar is basically a superior version of misbah as a bat and a bootleg Mohammad yousaf lol.

Mohammad yousaf was also a soft scorer but the difference was yousaf scored consistently against quality bowling and while he never took the game away from you, opposition did fear him cause he allowed batsmen around him to play. The reason opposition feared him was because while he didn't take the game away, he didnt allow the opposition to take it away either, he kept the game stagnant. His 99 against India was beyond sweet. Other batsmen were also at ease when he was their and knew they could take the team home cause yousaf ain't going no where.

If yousaf played in this 2 ball era and played against the c and d tier bowlers that babar plays against, Yousaf would turn into viv Richards lol 😂😂

Babar can't even do that, when Babar bats against quality opposition not only does he look to get out on every ball, he actually increase the rr and puts more pressure on the batsmen at the other end like Abdullah or saud lol. Literally he came in a few days ago and destroyed all that fakhar and Abdullah achieved as an opening pair 😶‍🌫️.

Oh and yousaf was a beyond killer player of spin, he wouldn't struggle with kuldeep or satner considering it's the 2 ball era. Babar wouldn't survive against one ball harbajan lol, although kuldeep is better then harbajan if you give him one ball only.
 
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topspin said:
@VForVendetta made a very good point about PCB's PR con job. This is what PCB do best. They did this when they tried to market the "16 year old" Naseem shah.
Babar Azam is the ODI version of Asad Shafiq and should be compared to Temba Bavuma in white ball cricket.
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If RVD had played for Pakistan he would have his own brand "King Rassie vander dussen" or "Royal RVD". He is averaging 56 as well.
 
mominsaigol said:
Babar is basically a superior version of misbah as a bat and a bootleg Mohammad yousaf lol.

Mohammad yousaf was also a soft scorer but the difference was yousaf scored consistently against quality bowling and while he never took the game away from you, opposition did fear him cause he allowed batsmen around him to play. The reason opposition feared him was because while he didn't take the game away, he didnt allow the opposition to take it away either, he kept the game stagnant. His 99 against India was beyond sweet. Other batsmen were also at ease when he was their and knew they could take the team home cause yousaf ain't going no where.

If yousaf played in this 2 ball era and played against the c and d tier bowlers that babar plays against, Yousaf would turn into viv Richards lol 😂😂

Babar can't even do that, when Babar bats against quality opposition not only does he look to get out on every ball, he actually increase the rr and puts more pressure on the batsmen at the other end like Abdullah or saud lol. Literally he came in a few days ago and destroyed all that fakhar and Abdullah achieved as an opening pair 😶‍🌫️.

Oh and yousaf was a beyond killer player of spin, he wouldn't struggle with kuldeep or satner considering it's the 2 ball era. Babar wouldn't survive against one ball harbajan lol, although kuldeep is better then harbajan if you give him one ball only.
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Completely agree with Babar's standing in comparison to the mighty Misbah and Mohammad Yousuf. The latter wasn't as good as Inzi, Saeed Anwar and Zaheer Abbas in ODIs however I would back him to average 60+ and have a strike rate of 100+ in this era if he had the chance to feast on the same level of bowlers faced by Babar in his career. Mohammad Yousuf was miles ahead of him against spin. I don't even want to imagine Murali bowling to Babar :facepalm:

When you look at Virat Kohli, his ODI stats are out of this world. But he's never played for milestones nor has he ever played for his average. Imagine if he was to play the same brand of absolute risk free cricket like Babar has done throughout his career.

Against second/third string bowling attacks and minnows, you should be using the opportunity to improve your shot range and your ability to bat at a higher gear. These are the type of matches where Babar should be aiming to score 100 off 70 to balls. I don't that's an unreasonable ask in the slightest. If he's really Pakistan's greatest ODI batsman ever he should be able to score at least one of these hundreds in every bilateral series given the calibre of bowling attacks he's been facing.

It makes you wonder what ICC need to do reformulate their batting ranking tables particularly in ODIs and T20Is.
 
topspin said:
Completely agree with Babar's standing in comparison to the mighty Misbah and Mohammad Yousuf. The latter wasn't as good as Inzi, Saeed Anwar and Zaheer Abbas in ODIs however I would back him to average 60+ and have a strike rate of 100+ in this era if he had the chance to feast on the same level of bowlers faced by Babar in his career. Mohammad Yousuf was miles ahead of him against spin. I don't even want to imagine Murali bowling to Babar :facepalm:

When you look at Virat Kohli, his ODI stats are out of this world. But he's never played for milestones nor has he ever played for his average. Imagine if he was to play the same brand of absolute risk free cricket like Babar has done throughout his career.

Against second/third string bowling attacks and minnows, you should be using the opportunity to improve your shot range and your ability to bat at a higher gear. These are the type of matches where Babar should be aiming to score 100 off 70 to balls. I don't that's an unreasonable ask in the slightest. If he's really Pakistan's greatest ODI batsman ever he should be able to score at least one of these hundreds in every bilateral series given the calibre of bowling attacks he's been facing.

It makes you wonder what ICC need to do reformulate their batting ranking tables particularly in ODIs and T20Is.
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This is what I was saying. Chacha may be medicore but I respect him because atleast he tries his level best. Against Nepal chacha smashed from the get go.

The curators had deliberately designed the pitch to not spin so because pakistan is so afraid of playing Nepal lol, and despite that babar who could have gotten a quick fire 100, waited till he got his 100 before he bashed 50 of 18 against a pathetic bowling attack on the worlds easiest pitch. Atpeast chacha bashed from the get go.

Only reason that 49 ball 100 exists is because babar was forced to play d string sa, otherwise if he had batted first, he'd still be spineless.

Babar has made me hate pakistan because he's quite literally misbah 2.0, although superior as an odi bat. The very definition of a coward is when you try to hide from your critics.

Fans had one complaint, and that's babar doesn't even try to fight with intent, how does babar repay everyone? By shoving himself to opening and putting fakhar at no 3, so that he doesn't have to worry about coming in a situation where he's forced to keep up with the rr.

We saw what happened when the openers got a kick start and babar came in late.

I just don't get it, Misbah was a clean striker, the guy has a 58 ball 100 in test against a quality opposition, babar has good shots and is an excellent timer, why are they so spineless?

The amount of these losers have slowed down for their milestones even if it means killing thr rr is disgusting. Fakhar never does that.

Your goddamn Mr no 1 batsmen in the world is saying that if Fakhar plays 20 overs then pakistan win. Bro you're the no 1 batsmen in the world and the captain, shouldn't you be the X factor? Like kohli is? Or like pointing was? Why is someone else your X factor? Why are you playing at no 3 then? I thought Australian and Indian tradition was to have your X factor at either opening or 3? 💀💀
 
Babar Azam

Batting against spin in ODIS

-----2019-22----

1016 Runs

1071 Balls

10 Outs

101.6 Average

94.9 Strike rate

39% Dots

12.3 BPB


---2023----

566 Runs

718 Balls

12 Outs

47.2 Average

78.8 Strike rate

50% Dots

13.6 BPB
 
He needs to figure out some release shots. Looks to be working on the sweep behind square, but clearly hasn’t mastered it yet and looks ungainly playing it.

Also needs to work on getting the ball over the fielders against pace in the power play, instead of as usual relying on playing the ball along the ground.

Doesn’t need to slog to score runs, so I’m not sure why he keeps practicing ugly slogs in training.
 
This guy is just not a modern day T20 batter and would be a clear liability to most top batting line-ups.

Pak fans really got carried away with the hype over his no.1 ranking and him bashing some associate level bowling attacks for fun but by now his whole facade would have been blown away if he was playing for a top 5 side. And the constant desperation of having a Kohli of your own doesn't help either.
 
Usman Chadda said:
He needs to figure out some release shots. Looks to be working on the sweep behind square, but clearly hasn’t mastered it yet and looks ungainly playing it.

Also needs to work on getting the ball over the fielders against pace in the power play, instead of as usual relying on playing the ball along the ground.

Doesn’t need to slog to score runs, so I’m not sure why he keeps practicing ugly slogs in training.
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He should develop good footwork against spin. Should develop a habit of coming out of his crease to negate the line and length of the spinner. There is no way he is going to succeed if he is stuck in the crease, His backfoot goes nowhere.
 
Usman Chadda said:
He needs to figure out some release shots. Looks to be working on the sweep behind square, but clearly hasn’t mastered it yet and looks ungainly playing it.

Also needs to work on getting the ball over the fielders against pace in the power play, instead of as usual relying on playing the ball along the ground.

Doesn’t need to slog to score runs, so I’m not sure why he keeps practicing ugly slogs in training.
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Yeah the guy is captain for the past 5 years and he still needs to learn how to play T20 cricket
 
Ramiz Raja talked about Babar’s struggle against spin bowling saying he needs to play a wide range of shots and use his footwork to dominate the spinners. He said on his YouTube channel:

"Babar Azam’s batting against spin is a problem. He was batting well against pace but whenever spinners come on, he becomes static, whether it is leg-spin or off-spin."

“Either he has to play reverse sweep, sweep shot or switch hit against spin or he has to use his footwork and dominate the spinners because that domination factor ends as soon as a spinner comes [to bowl]. So, Babar needs to work a lot on this area.”
 
FearlessRoar said:
Ramiz Raja talked about Babar’s struggle against spin bowling saying he needs to play a wide range of shots and use his footwork to dominate the spinners. He said on his YouTube channel:

"Babar Azam’s batting against spin is a problem. He was batting well against pace but whenever spinners come on, he becomes static, whether it is leg-spin or off-spin."

“Either he has to play reverse sweep, sweep shot or switch hit against spin or he has to use his footwork and dominate the spinners because that domination factor ends as soon as a spinner comes [to bowl]. So, Babar needs to work a lot on this area.”
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Maybe Ramiz can treat Babar to a spin class session at David Loyds club.

Both can spend quality time with each other and he can massage his ego as well.
 
Rana said:
Maybe Ramiz can treat Babar to a spin class session at David Loyds club.

Both can spend quality time with each other and he can massage his ego as well.
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Babar: Ramiz hum bhoot bari atei hain kei jab hum spin khltei hain to mein ghabra jata hoon .

Ramiz: Arei kakei, Urdu bolna to sekh lei, Kuch samaj nahi a rahi hai.

Babar: Yes yes, I don't play spin, I panic, yes yes, how to improve?

Ramiz: You are king, no need to improve, let fakhar do your job with the bat while you do your job in the press media with your mouth.
 
He needs to use his feet against the spin. He is a poor sweeper of the cricket ball. Too many times he has lost his wicket trying to sweep or slog sweep. He should either cut, drive or use his feet. Time to learn something is in nets not on the eve of a World Cup. Also many great players of spin played spinners without sweep/slog sweep shots, not sure why is he hellbent on playing that shot.
 
cricketmania22 said:
He needs to use his feet against the spin. He is a poor sweeper of the cricket ball. Too many times he has lost his wicket trying to sweep or slog sweep. He should either cut, drive or use his feet. Time to learn something is in nets not on the eve of a World Cup. Also many great players of spin played spinners without sweep/slog sweep shots, not sure why is he hellbent on playing that shot.
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Because he has no backfoot play against spin besides the pull.
 
cricketmania22 said:
He can cut the ball also. Unless bowlers are threatened that he will come down the track, they are not going to ball short and he won’t get a chance to cut the ball.
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Yeah he did that to moeen ali but lack of back foot play means he can't nudge it around when it's bowled waist high, even imam ul haq was capable of nudging it and taking his customary singles.

I don't get how he's so poor at this.
 
Babar needs some of the holy water which Misbah ul Haq gave to Fakhar for his no.4 position
 
Babar is very limited, he is not a natural sweeper off the ball and it showed against Moen Ali. You can't be a world class batsman when your range of shots is so limited. Team's have countered him by keeping a mid wicket to counter his only leg side back foot punch, pull shot.
 
Just go back and see him struggle vs Kuldeep in the 2019 WC. 4 years later he still had no clue when facing Kuldeep. In between those 4 years he got owned by Adeel Rashid (including the final) and and also by Rashid Khan.

But he is king. Paper king yes, to those who are so desperate for a hero.
 
mominsaigol said:
Because he has no backfoot play. He tries to play on the backfoot and gets out.
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It's okay to play a pull shot on the back foot but the problem is with his backlift which usually remains too high to keep his shots grounded. I think he needs to lean a bit more forward while playing spin.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
It's okay to play a pull shot on the back foot but the problem is with his backlift which usually remains too high to keep his shots grounded. I think he needs to lean a bit more forward while playing spin.
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His issue is that he wants to keep the ball grounded. Too stubborn to realize he’s a good enough player to play proper cricketing shots and clear the infield.

His backlift over the years against the spinners has actually become lower. Doesn’t get enough elevation when he is on the backfoot.

Someone more adept at cricketing terminology would explain this better.
 
Usman Chadda said:
His issue is that he wants to keep the ball grounded. Too stubborn to realize he’s a good enough player to play proper cricketing shots and clear the infield.

His backlift over the years against the spinners has actually become lower. Doesn’t get enough elevation when he is on the backfoot.

Someone more adept at cricketing terminology would explain this better.
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If keeping the ball grounded was his main goal i'd say he's doing a pretty bad job at it if he's hitting it straight to short mid wicket so many times
 
Usman Chadda said:
His issue is that he wants to keep the ball grounded. Too stubborn to realize he’s a good enough player to play proper cricketing shots and clear the infield.

His backlift over the years against the spinners has actually become lower. Doesn’t get enough elevation when he is on the backfoot.

Someone more adept at cricketing terminology would explain this better.
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I believe his issue is his approach. He believes as soon as power play is over he needs to consolidate and play risk free shots against the spinners. But he doesn’t have risk free scoring shots against spinners. He can’t milk them for 2-3s and risk free boundaries like he wants to and then he gets tied down and wastes too many balls. He covers this up by o playing ugly looking sweep shots which he clearly is not comfortable with or tried to pull a ball that is not that short and ends up holding out to the mid wicket fielder. He needs to use his feet and pick conventional gaps by clearing the inside fielders.
 
Not necessary for all to be able to play spin well. He's been declared the best all format batter in the world for no small reason.
:inti
 
Usman Chadda said:
His issue is that he wants to keep the ball grounded. Too stubborn to realize he’s a good enough player to play proper cricketing shots and clear the infield.

His backlift over the years against the spinners has actually become lower. Doesn’t get enough elevation when he is on the backfoot.

Someone more adept at cricketing terminology would explain this better.
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actually he is over trying to keep the ball down just because of the pressure to keep the ball grounded.

Surely there are some technical issues Babar is facing with spinners which is not a good sign for a player of his caliber.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
actually he is over trying to keep the ball down just because of the pressure to keep the ball grounded.

Surely there are some technical issues Babar is facing with spinners which is not a good sign for a player of his caliber.
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He doesn't have backfoot play, can't nudge for singles. Anything that's waist high he's forced to play that pull or cut, that's all he knows how to play.
 
Babar should be working with Younis khan to overcome his weakness against Spin. He is a walking wicket when a spinner is on. Every ball he makes it look like a super delivery and ends up getting out on the worst delivery of the match.

No sure why he is still struggling with the likes of Mohammad Yousaf in their camp. Maybe there is no one to teach him or help him??
 
BouncerGuy said:
Babar should be working with Younis khan to overcome his weakness against Spin. He is a walking wicket when a spinner is on. Every ball he makes it look like a super delivery and ends up getting out on the worst delivery of the match.

No sure why he is still struggling with the likes of Mohammad Yousaf in their camp. Maybe there is no one to teach him or help him??
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He doesn't wish to progress. His mindset has been stagnant since 2020.

Even earlier this year he said he is a t20 anchorer for his team, like what does that even mean?

What's the point of anchoring in t20 unless wickets are falling? That's usually odi and test where anchoring is important no matter ehat the stage is unless the rr provided in odi is high.
 
There are generally two genuine ways to play spins in modern batting.

You either sweep/reverse sweep/paddle/scoop or you use you feet, back and front. Both these can disturb the spinner's line and especially the length.

Both approaches have their downsides but they have worked for majority of batter. Some brilliant ones use both successfully.


Bobby B is not proficient enough in either. He uses his feet but mostly doesn't come forward. He can cut and pull well enough.

I haven't seen him sweep that much so can't say how good he is at that. But apparantly he isn't very proficient.

If he want some guidance, Younis Khan is a good model batter to emulate. He should learn from respected elders. :sa
 
JattMaula said:
There are generally two genuine ways to play spins in modern batting.

You either sweep/reverse sweep/paddle/scoop or you use you feet, back and front. Both these can disturb the spinner's line and especially the length.

Both approaches have their downsides but they have worked for majority of batter. Some brilliant ones use both successfully.


Bobby B is not proficient enough in either. He uses his feet but mostly doesn't come forward. He can cut and pull well enough.

I haven't seen him sweep that much so can't say how good he is at that. But apparantly he isn't very proficient.

If he want some guidance, Younis Khan is a good model batter to emulate. He should learn from respected elders. :sa
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He gets out playing sweep quite often. Who is better than younis khan to teach him that art? Shoaib Malik can guide him about coming out of the crease and hitting the ball straight. Both of these guys were good at those shots.
 
Looks like the problem is still there... Babar just cannot get rid of his issues against Spin..walking wicket he is atm.
 
It’s ok.

If he continues to NOT score it will just expose his flaws further.

Only a complete batsman should be rated as a great anyway.
 
I remember the last few years of Umar Akmal's career. He used to be such a consistent performer for Pakistan at one point. Much more impactful than Babar too. He kept getting out to spinners a lot. He was definitely much better at playing pace. I guess it runs in the blood.
 
If this is the template of pitches in Pak, Babar can kiss his career goodbye. The only option for him is to open the innings and hope that the other team has a couple of seamers & pray that there are no left arm spinners. Opening the batting in RSA was a decent show of intent from him but he's gone back to his shell and will pay the price. His front pad is bigger than Shane Watson's & all he does is just put it there. We have talked a lot about Kohlis dismissals but there's an eerie similarity in his dismissals against left armers as well & I distinctly remember how Maharaj just made him his bunny.

The crazy thing about Babar is that he's been playing cricket for such a long time but there's zero addition of shots in his arsenal. I was watching him do net practice & he doesn't even try anything there as well. He's a cricketer who has been bestowed stardom out of sheer frustration of Pak not having a world class batter for the longest but he's just going down everyday. I like the guy, have nothing personal against him but he needs to improve if he wants to play test cricket.
 
Everyone seems to have figured out the left-arm spinner by now. He'll be a walking wicket in the Champions Trophy unless he addresses it, which I highly doubt he will. His ego is too big
 
Anyone want to tell us Babar is in the same league as Miandad, Inzimam, Yousuf and Younis Khan?
 
BouncerGuy said:
Babar should be working with Younis khan to overcome his weakness against Spin. He is a walking wicket when a spinner is on. Every ball he makes it look like a super delivery and ends up getting out on the worst delivery of the match.

No sure why he is still struggling with the likes of Mohammad Yousaf in their camp. Maybe there is no one to teach him or help him??
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What’s that going to do? Babar worked with powe hitting coaches to improve his striking abilities. Did it work?
 
GoUgandaCranes said:
If this is the template of pitches in Pak, Babar can kiss his career goodbye. The only option for him is to open the innings and hope that the other team has a couple of seamers & pray that there are no left arm spinners. Opening the batting in RSA was a decent show of intent from him but he's gone back to his shell and will pay the price. His front pad is bigger than Shane Watson's & all he does is just put it there. We have talked a lot about Kohlis dismissals but there's an eerie similarity in his dismissals against left armers as well & I distinctly remember how Maharaj just made him his bunny.

The crazy thing about Babar is that he's been playing cricket for such a long time but there's zero addition of shots in his arsenal. I was watching him do net practice & he doesn't even try anything there as well. He's a cricketer who has been bestowed stardom out of sheer frustration of Pak not having a world class batter for the longest but he's just going down everyday. I like the guy, have nothing personal against him but he needs to improve if he wants to play test cricket.
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Listen to Rizwan’s presser from yesterday. He basically comes out to say things that would protect assets from his agency.

He has already told us that we will no longer be able to stat pad and our averages will go down with the new direction we are taking at home. Babar’s slump will continue to be defended.
 
More than a concern- its reaching panic zone. Open your stance Babar, otherwise you are a walking wicket against very average left arm spinners
 
13 runs in 2 innings.

If only he had the Aussie syetem behind him, what could've been.

But no worries, he's too young and too classy. We must back him until he reaches Misbah's retirement age.
 
People will not want to admit this but Imran Khan’s vision regarding this guy was a total flop. Makes sense now considering how Khan’s vision in general has landed him all the troubles in the world.
 
He is smart and talented and surely playing on spin pitches will make him learn how to play spin in a season or two. Actually it will be good for him to play on these pitches.
 
We must identify the young talent now, the one that is too young, too classy.

And then we must give them the Australian system to make sure they are backed well.
 
Rana said:
We must identify the young talent now, the one that is too young, too classy.

And then we must give them the Australian system to make sure they are backed well.
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So basically sending saim to Big Bash League?
 
Warning:

Guys please don't derail the thread with irrelevant stuff, it could lead to posters being put on restrictions.
 
The struggle against spin continues... Motie clean bowled him in the 1st inning of the 2nd test match today..

Just 1 from him

Not sure why he is playing on back foot everytime..
 
AMSS said:
KL Rahul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Baba Azam

All formats.
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This guy Babar would have averaged something like 22 had he played on the type of wickets Indian batters usually play at home.

And some delusional individuals think he's "World class" lmao.

All he is good at is scoring those soft 85 SR ODI hundreds on uber flat wickets against sub par bowling attacks.
 
Mesozoic said:
This guy Babar would have averaged something like 22 had he played on the type of wickets Indian batters usually play at home.

And some delusional individuals think he's "World class" lmao.

All he is good at is scoring those soft 85 SR ODI hundreds on uber flat wickets against sub par bowling attacks.
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Agreed, Travis Head > India > Babar.
 
He shouldn’t be dropped. He is too young, too classy. He needs the Australian system to get back to his best
 
Rana said:
He shouldn’t be dropped. He is too young, too classy. He needs the Australian system to get back to his best
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He has a poor technique plain and simple. 90% of Pakistan fans don't have a clue about cricket and view stats all day and night.

His technique isn't ugly which is why he isn't viewed as another rizwan but he doesn't have a good technique.

His defense is poor, and he's extremely vulnerable on the 3rd offstump line against pace. Not every bowler is going to bowl full pitched deliveries so he can play his cover drives.

He also has zero unorthodox or lofted strokes. All of his lofted shots are pre meditated which is a clear indication that he isn't cut out for the t20 game.

And against spin the less said the better, he can't cut or sweep or use his feet to advance, 3 of the most vital elements of a good player vs spin.

Their was some poater that pinged me and was mocking me claiming babar is a good player of the cut shot. I forgot who it it was but you were their bro when it happened.

Next thing you know babar gets out trying to play a cut shot 🤣🤣.
 
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