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[VIDEOS] "I am hoping I will be given consistent chances to prove myself in ODIs" : Hussain Talat

aloo paratha said:
There isn't space for him in the top order where he seems to prefer to bat. Though, in ODIs, I think he can compete with Khushdil Shah and Iftikhar for the #6 position. He can bat here now as it seems he's developed the power game he was lacking before.
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Hes not good enough to bat at 6 as you need a pure hitter at that spot maybe at 5
 
shamaan said:
Hes not good enough to bat at 6 as you need a pure hitter at that spot maybe at 5
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I disagree. That's true for T20Is, not ODIs. In ODIs it's not unlikely that you'll bee 150/4 at the 30 over mark. From there, you'd prefer a genuine batsman to be walking out to the crease who can rebuild the innings, not someone who will score 20 off 15 and get out. Talat has shown he can be a genuine bat, but can also accelerate quickly, as he showed in the National T20 Cup with his power hitting and unorthodox shots.
 
I like Talat but he has not done enough to warrant a test squad spot though he should be a sure shot selection to bat at 6 for Shaheens
 
aloo paratha said:
I disagree. That's true for T20Is, not ODIs. In ODIs it's not unlikely that you'll bee 150/4 at the 30 over mark. From there, you'd prefer a genuine batsman to be walking out to the crease who can rebuild the innings, not someone who will score 20 off 15 and get out. Talat has shown he can be a genuine bat, but can also accelerate quickly, as he showed in the National T20 Cup with his power hitting and unorthodox shots.
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We already have babar imaam rizwan who are thier to bat throw we dont have finisher as such who can clear the boundaries hence why my number 6 has to have the power game not saying talat isnt good but he more suited to top 5
 
He looked like a special talent to me in the national cup and he is proving it again. Should be drafted straight into the side and can provide that x factor to our side we have been expecting from bits and pieces players ll ije Shadab and Imad
 
That is some knock.

I think he needs to be picked for the Shaheens and see how he does in New Zealand before there is talk of a Pakistan comeback.
 
Khushdil, Talat, Ifthikar and Danish are all comepting for no 6 spot ODIs
 
shamaan said:
We already have babar imaam rizwan who are thier to bat throw we dont have finisher as such who can clear the boundaries hence why my number 6 has to have the power game not saying talat isnt good but he more suited to top 5
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Yes, Talat is inferior when it comes to power hitting compared to Khushdil Shah, but he makes up for it with is genuine batting ability and bowling. Regardless, the competition is good.
 
aloo paratha said:
Yes, Talat is inferior when it comes to power hitting compared to Khushdil Shah, but he makes up for it with is genuine batting ability and bowling. Regardless, the competition is good.
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Khushdil has taken 38 wicket in 59 LIst A matches, he is no part timer with the bowl.
 
shah_1 said:
Khushdil has taken 38 wicket in 59 LIst A matches, he is no part timer with the bowl.
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You're right. Hussain Talat actually has quite poor bowling stats. I was under the impression that he was a better bowler. Still though, I feel Talat will be a better fit at #6 for the ODI team, Khushdil Shah is a better fit at #5 or #6 for T20Is. Neither players bowling will realistically be used for team Pakistan.
 
I have always liked him as a player. I wanted him selected for the series against Zimbabwe. Now he is starting to show some performances.
 
I said a few weeks ago in this thread that Talat can be an asset to the test team.
 
Any player capable of scoring daddy hundreds needs to be on the Shaheens tour. Too many of our domestic batsmen either don't have the ability or the concentration to push on beyond 130 :shafiq
 
Underrated batsman. Don’t know what people want him to do to become that likeable Pakistani player
 
I have written in the QEA thread that the concern is that in 40 First Class matches, Hussain Talat has only taken 36 wickets.

Even worse, he only has 18 wickets in 57 Fifty Over matches.

This means that until he has a lot of red ball wickets behind him, he is only an option for the Test team if he can bat in the Top Five of the order.

And that means that he is competing against Abdullah Shafique and Haider Ali for a place as a specialist batsman.
 
aloo paratha said:
Yes, Talat is inferior when it comes to power hitting compared to Khushdil Shah, but he makes up for it with is genuine batting ability and bowling. Regardless, the competition is good.
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Yes that's why il have him at number 5 khushdil is also a good part time bowler talat is okay for 5 over spels regardless competition for places is good :)
 
The problem with Talat has been hitting staright against fast bowers. He usually relies on his cheeky shots or play late cuts thougn he is quality against spin.
 
QeA20, Round 3, Day 2:

Southern Punjab captain Hussain Talat third first-class century highlighted day two of his team’s match against Khyber Pakhtunkhwa at the National Bank Sports Complex.

The Southern Punjab captain made 131 runs to help his team close the day’s play at 257 for six in 72 overs in reply of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa’s 304 all out.

Hussain, who arrived at the crease at 31 for one, smashed 13 fours and six sixes. Over the course of his 180-ball stay, he stitched a crucial 148-run partnership with Mohammad Irfan, who is undefeated on 71, after Southern Punjab lost half of their batting lineup for 106 runs.

This was Hussain’s second century of the tournament – the first being his career-best 253 in the opening round against Northern.
 
In very good form at the moment. Has to be on the plane to New Zealand, for the Shaheens squad at least if not the main team. Would offer so much more utility batting at 6 than someone like Shafiq. His bowling might not be all that special, but it could give some crucial rest to the other quicks, and he might find a little more success on NZ wickets than he would with his pace on Pakistani ones.
 
Glad to see him scoring. I wonder where his bowling is at these days . . If its half of Faheem Ashraf's, I'd have him in my team over Faheem Ashraf any day of the week! especially in T20s and tests
 
Need to have Hussein Talat in the T20 team - Fakhar needs to be dropped!
 
Not sure about him in tests but Odis and t20s I’m for him. If his bowling was better defo in tests.
 
Hope he takes his bowling more seriously could slot in at 7 behind rizwan in the test side.
 
Should be in the ODI team and WC plans. Can be much better than Khushdil down the order. For one he isn't limited to only one side of the wicket.
 
angrypathan said:
In very good form at the moment. Has to be on the plane to New Zealand, for the Shaheens squad at least if not the main team. Would offer so much more utility batting at 6 than someone like Shafiq. His bowling might not be all that special, but it could give some crucial rest to the other quicks, and he might find a little more success on NZ wickets than he would with his pace on Pakistani ones.
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I think he needs to be played in the shaheens and if he performs the mansgemt can look to bring into the test squad in the near future
 
I would take him in the shaheens say and I'f he performs he can brought into the main team.he wont play in the t20s as thiers no space for him.in odis he maybe able to find a spot at 6
 
Shoaibbtt said:
Not sure about him in tests but Odis and t20s I’m for him. If his bowling was better defo in tests.
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I would go the other way and say he can get into the test team but hard for him to get in the t20 team at the moment.
 
Arsal_AK said:
Should be in the ODI team and WC plans. Can be much better than Khushdil down the order. For one he isn't limited to only one side of the wicket.
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Agreed. Good thing about his batting is, both his onside and offside game are equally good.

Playing first class regularly will improve his batting further.

Wish his bowling was better. Currently he is a harmless and very easy to hit type of a
bowler.

Moreover he dropped some very catches in national t20 cup. He needs to improve his fielding as well.
 
Looks like a bumper season for Hussain Talat - leading run-scorer.

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Talat and Hammad needs to bowl more I know they might be focusing on their stronger skill but if they can bowl on average around 12 overs per day tightly they will be invaluable they are not needed to pick a bunch of wickets.
 
Him playing for Islamabad United also helps his case for a come back. His ability to bowl does as well. Don't be surprised if he returns to the international fold.
 
He is in good form. I like him as a player. He has done enough to be included in the NZ squad in tests and T20s.
 
Talat, Hammad Azam, and Saud Shakeel are all batting at healthy strike rates as well. Good to see.
 
Hasan123 said:
He is in good form. I like him as a player. He has done enough to be included in the NZ squad in tests and T20s.
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I would play him in the shaheens and if he performs thier he can be brought into the next test series only
 
Deserved call up, can't rally argue with his selection.

He's shown good form in white ball and red ball and it will be interesting to see how he does in NZ.
 
He can be the replacement for Shafiq and the 5th bowler solution (albeit a poor one, but he only needs to bowl 10ish overs a day). Kill 2 birds with one stone. Hope he does well for Pakistan A.
 
aloo paratha said:
He can be the replacement for Shafiq and the 5th bowler solution (albeit a poor one, but he only needs to bowl 10ish overs a day). Kill 2 birds with one stone. Hope he does well for Pakistan A.
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I think he can go straight into the senior team - maybe he can play the A games first though to cement his position.

Batting lineup of Abid, Shan, Azhar, Babar, Haris, Talat would be great. Haris and Talat can fill in the part time overs, and wouldn't need any fake all rounders. Also think Talat can really do well with the bat.
 
HappyWarsFan said:
I think he can go straight into the senior team - maybe he can play the A games first though to cement his position.

Batting lineup of Abid, Shan, Azhar, Babar, Haris, Talat would be great. Haris and Talat can fill in the part time overs, and wouldn't need any fake all rounders. Also think Talat can really do well with the bat.
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A part of me wants Talat to play in NZ but another part of me also doesn't wanna throw him under the bus against one of the best attacks in their own backyard on debut. I guess he'll play the Shaheen's matches and if he does well he'll be drafted into the main side for the tests.

You're right about Haris and Talat in terms of bowling. Haris is actually a quite decent bowler who has a knack of picking up wickets. Between them they'd bowl 10-15 overs a day.
 
aloo paratha said:
He can be the replacement for Shafiq and the 5th bowler solution (albeit a poor one, but he only needs to bowl 10ish overs a day). Kill 2 birds with one stone. Hope he does well for Pakistan A.
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I would like to see him in the shaheens squad
 
3rd highest run scorer so far this QEA Trophy, and in a lot fewer innings than those above him:

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Last played T20I in Feb 2019 - big opportunity for him in New Zealand - included in the 18 member squad for T20Is
 
Don't see him getting a chance here, Maybe if we somehow win the series in the first 2 games or we lose so badly that some players get exposed, he might get a look in. Both outcomes have to be really extreme for him to play.
 
KoyoAli said:
Don't see him getting a chance here, Maybe if we somehow win the series in the first 2 games or we lose so badly that some players get exposed, he might get a look in. Both outcomes have to be really extreme for him to play.
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Definitely he should have been in the shaheens i think he has better chance down the order in tests dont see him playing unless he plays as an all rounderb
 
Hussain Talat (53*) in an excellent 115 run partnership with Rohail to take Shaheens to a 7 wicket win - their first win in T20s on this tour
 
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His bowling isn't very good when it come to international standards. His batting is decent enough, especially as our odi side isn't very good at the moment.

Let's see how he does in domestic 50 over competition.
 
He’s a gritty batsman, but there’s just something about his batting. He lacks the timing to play proper cricket shots, except over extra cover and even then his head is all over the place.

Despite his size / strength, he was to rely on premeditated reverse sweeps and dabs to get his boundaries. I watched the whole partnership and even Rohail, who isn’t a T20s batsman, was hitting the spinners for 6 if they tossed it up, but using his fast hands and timing.

Talat may have the grit for Teat cricket so he should be playing as much 4 day as possible. Go down the Kamran Ghulam route.
 
Forum363 said:
He’s a gritty batsman, but there’s just something about his batting. He lacks the timing to play proper cricket shots, except over extra cover and even then his head is all over the place.

Despite his size / strength, he was to rely on premeditated reverse sweeps and dabs to get his boundaries. I watched the whole partnership and even Rohail, who isn’t a T20s batsman, was hitting the spinners for 6 if they tossed it up, but using his fast hands and timing.

Talat may have the grit for Teat cricket so he should be playing as much 4 day as possible. Go down the Kamran Ghulam route.
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This

Extra cover is mostly against spinner, he struggles big time anything over 140 kph, his shots are very limited.
 
I don't think he is good enough to be honest. Pretty mediocre domestic numbers across the formats. T20 numbers look okay but seems to be more of an accumulator and lacks the ability to play big shots or hit sixes.
 
He has potential. But just seems like another player who lacks game awareness.
 
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Fantastic match-winning innings today of 100* from 64 balls from Hussain Talat in a 147* run partnership with Mukhtar Ahmed for SP.
 
From PCB report:

Southern Punjab batsmen stunned Khyber Pakhtunkhwa with an audacious batting display that saw them hunt down the total in a mere 40.3 overs with opener Mukhtar Ahmed, Sohaib Maqsood and captain Hussain Talat all scoring brisk hundreds.

The trio created history, as three centuries in a single innings were registered for the first time in a List A match played in Pakistan.

After Sohaib’s departure, Hussain scored 100 not out off 64 balls (five fours, seven sixes) in an unbroken 146-run alliance with Mukhtar as Southern Punjab’s overwhelming victory was completed with as many as 57 balls to spare.
 
Talat hits a reverse sweep along the ground for 4.

Shamsi places another fielder in that position for that shot.

Talat hits a reverse sweep in the air straight to that fielder the very next ball.

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This guy has no talent and how he keeps getting selected is beyond my imagination.
 
His strike rate after 17 T20I innings is 118.96 - that is a real problem.
 
Not a T20 player.. Even his domestic performances have come in List A and First Class

Selection mistake, not Talat's fault.. Pak management continue long standing tradition of selecting good players in the wrong formats
 
coy0607 said:
Not a T20 player.. Even his domestic performances have come in List A and First Class

Selection mistake, not Talat's fault.. Pak management continue long standing tradition of selecting good players in the wrong formats
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Spot on

This man should be playing the long formats, especially Test matches
 
So Pakistan has a guy whose strike rate is 125 in T20s batting at number 4 for their national side.

Unconvinced by Talat so far in T20s.
 
A mediocre player with zero talent. He is not even fit to play for Hong Kong! He needs to be dumped right away!
 
Pakistan is probably the only side in the world that picks players for wrong formats and then discard them . .

Talat should be in the T20 or Test squads . . not T20! Thats where he performed .. thats how he got back into national reckoning before the NZ series . . but we knocked him out of the test squad and put him in teh T20 squad . . beggers belief really!
 
Firebat said:
Talat hits a reverse sweep along the ground for 4.

Shamsi places another fielder in that position for that shot.

Talat hits a reverse sweep in the air straight to that fielder the very next ball.

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wow this is some genius batting :yk
 
Take retirement from T20Is and try to work ur way into the test side. If not you’ll be history very soon.
 
He should be given a chance in tests and ODIs. There is no space for him in T20s in his preferred role.
 
Rather play Fawad Alam in a T20 than this guy.

Talat is not a T20 player.
 
He has no power game against fast bowlers , I have seen him enough to know that he isn't good enough for this format
 
Not even looking at the ball, just looking where he's hoping it will end up

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23 runs in 3 innings and looked clueless.

Footwork was poor, confidence looked low.

Why he had to play all 3 matches is anyone's guess.
 
Don't know if he is better than he's looked since I've not seen that much of him. He never pulled up any trees in the PSL so his reputation seems to be built on what he has done at domestic level. Generally I am happy to give players a long rope if they show some ability like say, Umar Amin, but the problem with Talat is he just doesn't look confident. Looks scared stiff of getting out when he's playing for Pakistan, and that's not a good look. Not everyone is cut out for international cricket.
 
Firebat said:
Not even looking at the ball, just looking where he's hoping it will end up

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Exactly!
I noted the same.

And it’s particularly not him but almost all of our batsmen display the kind of show off and style in the practice nets, is hilarious when you compare it with how they bat in the actual match.

Notice Pak batsmen in the nets sometimes.

Watch their heads down in a still position, showing full face of bat, bent back, and full flourish of the bat.
They will remain still in the position after playing a stroke as if they are giving the cameraman a chance to capture the magazine front page worthy shot.
You would think everyone is a combination of Don Bradman, Virat Kohli and Muhammad Yousuf, combined all in one batsman.

But then look at their style, play and posture in the actual games.
 
He had a poor PSL last time after he was exposed by some senior foreigners.

His main problem is hitting as he his head position is no where when hitting the ball and his bat twists in his hand as well. That's why the ball lands in some other area of the ground than the place he had in his mind.

These are the two things he has to work on with Yousuf if he wants a successful limited overs career otherwise focus on FC/tests.
 
Saj said:
23 runs in 3 innings and looked clueless.

Footwork was poor, confidence looked low.

Why he had to play all 3 matches is anyone's guess.
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for some reason Misbah like him
 
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