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Next time I will be timing Pakistan’s second wicket fall and the time it takes for the number 4 to be ready to face his first ball.
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But as a pro he could acted as a pro and got out there and then called for the helmet.Don't even go there.
I've seen more teeth smashed from a top edge off a spinner in club cricket then a batsmen being hit on the head by a fast bowler
I am a Bangladeshi. So I have followed it closely than you for obvious reasons. And I haven't found anything like what you have said. Even if I follow it closely. Bangladesh cricket has produced the least numbers of controversies and least degree of controversies than what other subcontinent and other continental countries have done.If you've watched Bangladesh cricket long enough, you wouldn't need an explanation.
Next time I will be timing Pakistan’s second wicket fall and the time it takes for the number 4 to be ready to face his first ball.
Shakib admitted as much that there was an opportunity to for getting Matthews out. He took it. He knew there will be backlash. He took it anyway. Will give him for that instead of saying no comments. He deep down knows that was not an intentional delay. But he just wanted to exploit the rule. I just saw the video. didn't see it live. Poor Matthews was almost pleadin
I don't think BD players, fans etc realize how pathetic it looks.
Sri lanka themselves have done unsporting stuff, but all that is ignoredI am a Bangladeshi. So I have followed it closely than you for obvious reasons. And I haven't found anything like what you have said. Even if I follow it closely. Bangladesh cricket has produced the least numbers of controversies and least degree of controversies than what other subcontinent and other continental countries have done.
So got this info from someone who actually timed it on their recording as below -- what do you guys think now??
This is the timeline:
Time 0 : batter out
1 minute 27 seconds: Angelo Mathews is out in the middle and "fist bumps" his partner.
1 minute 50 seconds: He is at his batting crease
1 minute 53 seconds: His strap breaks
2 minutes 24 seconds: Shakib goes over to Matthews and the umpires, asking what is going on, and Matthews shows him the broken strap
2 minutes 50 seconds: Umpire takes one look back at Bangladesh, walks over to Matthrews sheepishly with his hands out and shrugs his shoulder
3 minutes: Matthews seems upset. Likely Shakib has insisted on the appeal
3 minutes and 16 seconds: Runner has brought the new helmet to Matthews
And that's the crux of the issue. It appears the 4th umpire was incorrect- I am not saying he lied intentionally. The onus on this should fall on the umpires. They were responsible for this fiasco. They should have just negated shakib appeal and got on with the game saying it was equipment malfunction.4th umpire said Angelo ran out of time before the helmet issue.
Either way, I think Shakib shouldn't have appealed. There is a reason why timed out never happened in international cricket before. It is not a proper way to get out someone (even if it is legal).
Early signs as in? NPD isn't an age related disorder.Shakib thinks he is bigger than the game.
I used to like this guy because he was a good all rounder.
But over the last 3 years he has become arrogant, conceited and thinks he is better than he actually is.
I wonder if he had his pscyh eval yet.
Could be showing early signs of narcissistic personaliy disorder.
Safety is safety if Mathew's had a safety concern as mentioned in his tweet he had every right to wear a helmet. Its not necessary bowling could be anythingWho was the bowler he would have faced
he was there on the ground in 1 min and 50 secs and then called for a helmet . There was a post going around where it was measured from the time of the last wicket up untill he came on the groundSurely he could have taken strike within the 2 minutes and then call for the fixed helmet
Rizwan wastes at least 10 mins every game with his fake injuries and attention-seeking tactics like always having issues with the sight-screen etc.Next time I will be timing Pakistan’s second wicket fall and the time it takes for the number 4 to be ready to face his first ball.
The time out rule is for those who intentionally waste time but Matthews had a genuine reason4th umpire said Angelo ran out of time before the helmet issue.
Either way, I think Shakib shouldn't have appealed. There is a reason why timed out never happened in international cricket before. It is not a proper way to get out someone (even if it is legal).
I'd be looking forward to a shakib vs Matthews UFC fighteveryone else here talking about the dismissal, and I am here, wondering how did Angelo Matthews get so huge. Back in the day he was quite lean now he looks like he’s preparing for a UFC heavyweight title. Shakib has some guys messing with this beast of a man.
Shakib will win that easily because Matthews will arrive late there too.I'd be looking forward to a shakib vs Matthews UFC fight
SL always have an history of preventing India-Pakistan clashes. They win when they should lose and lose when they should win.Sri Lanka shouldn't forget this and take revenge from New Zealand instead.![]()
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AFG has done better than NZ and PAK so far in this WC. Its unfair to bracket them with Bangladesh who are yet to make a mark in WCs.Acts like these makes it clear why Bangladesh and Afghanistan will remain minnows forever
Allan Donald: I almost thought of going onto the field and saying ‘Enough’s enough, we don’t stand for this’
Bangladesh bowling coach Allan Donald has said that it was difficult to watch the dismissal of Angelo Mathews, who was ‘Timed out’ in Delhi, and that his instinct was to walk out on the field and stop his skipper from going forward with his appeal.
Mathews became the first batter in the history of international cricket to be ‘Timed out’ after his helmet strap broke while taking guard against Bangladesh in the 2023 World Cup clash. Mathews immediately called for a replacement, when Shakib had appealed to the umpires for a ‘Timed out’ suggesting Mathews was not ready to face the first ball within two minutes, which is the stipulated time limit for a new batter to be ready for action after the fall of the last wicket.
Despite the umpires asking Shakib if he wanted to withdraw his appeal as Mathews’ gear had malfunctioned, he did not relent. A dismayed Mathews had to walk off without facing a ball, with the incident overshadowing the result. Bangladesh comfortably chased down 280 with 53 balls to spare.
Donald, who has been Bangladesh’s bowling coach since last year, expressed his displeasure at the manner of the dismissal, saying that the ‘Timed out’ has no place in the world of cricket.
Speaking exclusively to CricBlog, Donald expressed his views: “What just happened there? In the change room, I was dead quiet. We shook hands [after the match], well, we didn’t shake hands and I knew what was going to come after Sri Lanka had fielded, it was going to be a very, very blank reception. My immediate reaction when that happened, and this is just my instincts would have taken over, was that I almost actually thought of going on the field and saying, ‘Enough’s enough, we do not stand for this. We are not that kind of team who stand for this.’ That was my immediate thought.
“Things happened so quickly, and I’m not the head coach, I’m not in charge. I just saw Marais Erasmus say, ‘Angelo, you can now depart the ground,’ and seeing Angelo picking his helmet up and throwing it against the advertising boards, I was surprised. You talk about the respect and the dignity for each other and for the game and the spirit of the game and I just don’t want to see things like that. That’s just me.
“Okay someone was sharp out there and said well, you could appeal, and this cannot be happening. But we saw it and my instincts would have immediately told me to go out there and say, ‘Hey, that’s not gonna happen.’ It really overshadowed a great win, not really, it absolutely overshadowed everything because there was a lot of niggle out there, when Sri Lanka started bowling.”
Here is my take - Shakib was well within his right to call for a perfectly legitimate dismissal. It’s a stupid law for sure but then, if there is a judgemental call in it, it shouldn’t be with the players & if there is a valid law that it should be expected also that when someone eventually calls for it, it won’t be disputed, neither questioned. Think about other way - this game eventually can end up as the CT qualifier …. Apart from the participation in an ICC event, that comes with quite a fat pay cheque for the board as well. Shakib was suggested by one of the players (Shanto - once again it proved that cricket is an educated man’s game) - for the sake of saying, say Shakib ignores the issue (or withdraws the appeal later), and BD losses the game - he would have been shredded by BD posters across social media and lots of people here then would have made fun of him, trolling him as a show pony who sacrificed countries interest for personal glory - I can post several comments from just about a month back when indeed Liton called Sodhi back!!!! It was a double way sword for him & guy must be kicking his stars to be the man of the decision dilemma.
I am a bit surprised that all sorts of video clips are posted here but the actual response from ICC officials isn’t!!! I have heard a five minutes long explanation from 4th official (Holdstock), where he categorically mentioned that Angelo WAS ALREADY OVER THE LIMIT, before the helmet malfunction…. Means, he was already costing BD team time that eventually would have cost them in third PP - not a spirited sportsmanship to be honest. I for one, never felt sorry for SAF of 1992, for that they tactfully bowled 45 overs instead of 50…. otherwise would have chased at least 60 more that fateful might.
As I said, it’s a stupid law, but still it’s a valid clause - Shakib didn’t temper with the ball (& got caught by umpire, penalised 5 runs), he didn’t chuck with the bowling action, he didn’t get his bowling action “corrected & cleared” few times only to be called again next time, he didn’t get a batsman out of a bump ball, neither picked a dropped catch behind scenes and got the batsman out, didn’t bowl under arm to restrict batsman, didn’t bite the ball to get it roughed-up or didn’t call his players out because umpire called his bowler for chucking….. or didn’t somehow managed to bowl a two feet overstepped no ball - still he must have disgraced the game for sure.
Would I have done so - probably on my own not, but not sure, as Wasim Bhai said - it depends on context, opponents; though I believe my moral is less flexible than swinging in between different scenarios. But, had one of my teammates notified me, I probably would had to go for it - reason I have explained already. But, I’ll never say - he did wrong or disgraced Bangladesh. I’m actually happy and proud to see that he had the guts to say on live telecast that it was a war & he would do anything within law to win it for his team - no sugarcoating. Someone a soft character probably would have stumbled … & before that would have flopped as player as well.
Only constructive outcome of this “disgraceful” act is that, it exposed cricket - an ancient, obsolete & outdated game surviving on the passion of 2bn south Asians (as we suck in most other global spectator games) & on Indian money; where even in this millennium professionals need to bother about rupturing the “spirit”. Otherwise, thousands of soccer players dive or fake foul without bothering to twist the “spirit of the game”, where the outcome can only be a penalty or a booking, and everyone is comfortable with that - that’s modern way of professionalism.
@Swashbuckler …. Since you asked for it.
You’ll be surprised to see/read the reaction in BD forums, in contrast to the popular beliefs.I disagree with a few things in this post.
However the main thing is the point around trolling on social media.
Shakib is a national captain. He shouldnt feel any pressure from social media trolls. If captains followed trolling from social media then Kohli would have divorced his wife, Babar would never shake hands with an Indian, Pat Cummins would be dismissed for being woke and players who drop catches would have their hands cut off.
I think a mature captain should be above the whims of social media.
I dont buy the stuff about war. If cricket was war then Shakib would have been martyred every match in career sadly. In fact I have often seen him run away from 'wars' in the past. He is using this type of jingosim just to hide his embarrassment imo.
Over time through interaction with Bangladesh fans I meet abroad I have to love the Bangladesh team. You guys deserve a lot more than you get from cricket.
Personally I don't think the Bangladehis need to stoop so low to win a match. The fans generally stand by the team and have supported them in many major defeats through thick and thin. But ultimately if you and other Bangladeshi fans are ok with it then fans of other teams should move on too.
It was a case of desperate captain doing desperate move. Matthew was taking his sweet time to get to the crease tho lol. I don't know why these guys are creating rivalry out of nothing.
+100I really appreciate Allan Donald that he stood up and accepted that this timed-out appeal against Angelo Mathews in the match against Bangladesh wasn't appropriate at all, now atleast he can keep his head high as an individual.
Speaking exclusively to CricBlog, Allan Donald expressed his views:
"I almost thought of going onto the field and saying ‘Enough’s enough, we don’t stand for this"
Bangladesh bowling coach said that it was difficult to watch the dismissal of Angelo Mathews, who was ‘Timed out’ in Delhi, and that his instinct was to walk out on the field and stop his skipper from going forward with his appeal.
Mathews became the first batter in the history of international cricket to be ‘Timed out’ after his helmet strap broke while taking guard against Bangladesh in the 2023 World Cup clash. Mathews immediately called for a replacement, when Shakib had appealed to the umpires for a ‘Timed out’ suggesting Mathews was not ready to face the first ball within two minutes, which is the stipulated time limit for a new batter to be ready for action after the fall of the last wicket.
Despite the umpires asking Shakib if he wanted to withdraw his appeal as Mathews’ gear had malfunctioned, he did not relent. A dismayed Mathews had to walk off without facing a ball, with the incident overshadowing the result. Bangladesh comfortably chased down 280 with 53 balls to spare.
Donald, who has been Bangladesh’s bowling coach since last year, expressed his displeasure at the manner of the dismissal, saying that the ‘Timed out’ has no place in the world of cricket.
“What just happened there? In the change room, I was dead quiet. We shook hands [after the match], well, we didn’t shake hands and I knew what was going to come after Sri Lanka had fielded, it was going to be a very, very blank reception. My immediate reaction when that happened, and this is just my instincts would have taken over, was that I almost actually thought of going on the field and saying, ‘Enough’s enough, we do not stand for this. We are not that kind of team who stand for this.’ That was my immediate thought.
“Things happened so quickly, and I’m not the head coach, I’m not in charge. I just saw Marais Erasmus say, ‘Angelo, you can now depart the ground,’ and seeing Angelo picking his helmet up and throwing it against the advertising boards, I was surprised. You talk about the respect and the dignity for each other and for the game and the spirit of the game and I just don’t want to see things like that. That’s just me.
“Okay someone was sharp out there and said well, you could appeal, and this cannot be happening. But we saw it and my instincts would have immediately told me to go out there and say, ‘Hey, that’s not gonna happen.’ It really overshadowed a great win, not really, it absolutely overshadowed everything because there was a lot of niggle out there, when Sri Lanka started bowling.”
A High Court in Bangladesh has issued a ruling against the former Pakistan cricketer Waqar Younis.
This ruling came in response to critical remarks made by Waqar about Bangladesh cricket and their team captain, Shakib Al Hasan, during their recent World Cup match against Sri Lanka.
Both Waqar and former Sri Lankan cricketer Russel Arnold criticized Shakib's actions in the commentary box, characterizing the appeal as "unsportsmanlike behavior." Younis specifically directed his criticism towards Shakib, questioning his actions and expressing disapproval of Bangladesh's approach, citing that it went against the spirit of cricket.
“I didn’t enjoy what I saw out there. That wasn’t good for the spirit of cricket. I am old school and I think that was a lot of drama to get Angelo Mathews out,” Waqar said during TV broadcast.
The ruling against Waqar instructed the Bangladesh Cricket Board to explain why they should not lodge a complaint with the International Cricket Council (ICC) to have Waqar removed from the list of international commentators in the ongoing ICC World Cup 2023.
Sri Lanka will end up playing less cricket with bsngla . Shakib is likely going to be a pariah in india . I will be writing to any team that bids for him to consider their image.Angelo's dismissal today and running out non striker for leaving early are NOT same for me. In later batters try to gain unfair advantage by covering the distance between wickets. So full support to bowlers like Ashwin.
Appealing for time out too can be justified in some cases like when batsmen playing for draw etc. But it seems legit case today when Matthews could've been hurt on first ball.
Agree that he should've been more careful before walking in but Shakib's appeal was totally uncalled for.
And then Matthews tried to convince him but Shakib's response too was very poor. Shakib had the opportunity to make things right.
Anyway rules are rules.
It should be a good wake up call for all professionals out there.
Sri Lanka will end up playing less cricket with bsngla . Shakib is likely going to be a pariah in india . I will be writing to any team that bids for him to consider their image.
I really appreciate Allan Donald that he stood up and accepted that this timed-out appeal against Angelo Mathews in the match against Bangladesh wasn't appropriate at all, now atleast he can keep his head high as an individual.
Speaking exclusively to CricBlog, Allan Donald expressed his views:
"I almost thought of going onto the field and saying ‘Enough’s enough, we don’t stand for this"
Bangladesh bowling coach said that it was difficult to watch the dismissal of Angelo Mathews, who was ‘Timed out’ in Delhi, and that his instinct was to walk out on the field and stop his skipper from going forward with his appeal.
Mathews became the first batter in the history of international cricket to be ‘Timed out’ after his helmet strap broke while taking guard against Bangladesh in the 2023 World Cup clash. Mathews immediately called for a replacement, when Shakib had appealed to the umpires for a ‘Timed out’ suggesting Mathews was not ready to face the first ball within two minutes, which is the stipulated time limit for a new batter to be ready for action after the fall of the last wicket.
Despite the umpires asking Shakib if he wanted to withdraw his appeal as Mathews’ gear had malfunctioned, he did not relent. A dismayed Mathews had to walk off without facing a ball, with the incident overshadowing the result. Bangladesh comfortably chased down 280 with 53 balls to spare.
Donald, who has been Bangladesh’s bowling coach since last year, expressed his displeasure at the manner of the dismissal, saying that the ‘Timed out’ has no place in the world of cricket.
“What just happened there? In the change room, I was dead quiet. We shook hands [after the match], well, we didn’t shake hands and I knew what was going to come after Sri Lanka had fielded, it was going to be a very, very blank reception. My immediate reaction when that happened, and this is just my instincts would have taken over, was that I almost actually thought of going on the field and saying, ‘Enough’s enough, we do not stand for this. We are not that kind of team who stand for this.’ That was my immediate thought.
“Things happened so quickly, and I’m not the head coach, I’m not in charge. I just saw Marais Erasmus say, ‘Angelo, you can now depart the ground,’ and seeing Angelo picking his helmet up and throwing it against the advertising boards, I was surprised. You talk about the respect and the dignity for each other and for the game and the spirit of the game and I just don’t want to see things like that. That’s just me.
“Okay someone was sharp out there and said well, you could appeal, and this cannot be happening. But we saw it and my instincts would have immediately told me to go out there and say, ‘Hey, that’s not gonna happen.’ It really overshadowed a great win, not really, it absolutely overshadowed everything because there was a lot of niggle out there, when Sri Lanka started bowling.”
Bangladesh Cricket Board is all set to seek explanation from Allan Donald for pointing fingers at Shakib al Hasan as he appealed for timed out against Angelo Mathews during their game against Sri Lanka at Arun Jaitley Stadium on November 6.
Mathews became the first cricketer in the history of international cricket to get timed out. The incident took place during the 25th over of the Sri Lankan innings when he arrived at the crease after the dismissal of Sadeera Samarawickrama.
Mathews brought the wrong helmet when he joined his partner Charith Asalanka at the crease and he signalled to his teammates at the dugout to bring the right helmet to him.
The substitute ran out with the correct helmet but the umpires weren't happy with the action and Bangladesh skipper Shakib took no time to appeal for a 'timed out' dismissal.
Mathews tried to explain the matter to Shakib as well as to the umpires but Bangladesh didn't overturn their appeal which made the umpires give the Sri Lankan out in this 'rare' fashion.
Shakib received severe criticism from different quarters for his action and Donald joined the bandwagon as he felt it was disappointing to see such things on the cricket field.
"It was disappointing to see. I can understand Shakib taking his chance. His words were 'I was doing everything to win'. You can sense in my voice that I don't like it ," Donald said during an interview with CricBlog.Net conducted soon after the Bangladesh team returned to team hotel following their three wicket win over Sri Lanka.
"I don't like that sort of thing. It was really difficult to watch that unfold - one of Sri Lanka's all-time greats walking off the field without a ball bowled to him being given out for time. That's where I stand on that," he said.
"You talk about the respect and the dignity for each other and for the game, the spirit of the game. I just don't want to see things like that. That's just me. I just don't want to see that sort of thing in our game where, okay, someone was sharp out there and said 'well, you can appeal'. I was like, 'really - this is not going to happen, this cannot be happening, this can't be happening," he said adding that rather than appealing Shakib should have reacted other way round after seeing Mathews helmet strap got out.
"The most sensible thing would have been to just to say, 'okay, no worries, mate, sort your helmet out quickly; you have time to replace it'," Donald said.
"My immediate reaction when that happened - and this is just [that] my instincts would have taken over - is I almost actually thought of going on that field and saying, 'enough is enough, we don't stand for this; we are not that kind of team who stand for this'. That was my immediate thought.
"Things happened so quickly, but you're talking about authority and I'm not the head coach, I'm not in charge. I just saw Marais Erasmus [the umpire at the bowler's end] say, 'please Angelo, you can now depart the ground'. And, seeing Angelo pick his helmet up and then walking off and throwing it against the advertising boards; it just was... I was surprised," he said adding that he saw anger in the eyes of the players while they did not shake hands.
"There was anger. The only word you can use, really, is anger. At the end of the day then, like I normally do, I'm almost out there on the park first shaking hands and I just knew that these guys were heading for one place and that's the dressing room. There was no eye contact at all, no conversations, nothing. I don't know, a lot of these cricketers today can call me old-fashioned but I just don't think there is any place for it. I just don't think so," he concluded.
BCB officials revealed that the outburst from Donald had come under their knowledge and maintained that they would seek clarification sooner rather than later.
"We have seen the news quoting Donald and we are taking that seriously. We will certainly seek an explanation in the coming days," said an official, suggesting that they don't want to distract the team ahead of their important game against Australia.
Source: CRICBUZZ
Mathews timed out: High Court issues ruling after Younis lambasts Shakib.
The High Court has issued a ruling demanding an explanation from authorities in Bangladesh asking why they should not file a complaint against former Pakistani cricketer Waqar Younis with the International Cricket Council (ICC) to scrap his name from its list of international commentators.
The ruling on Wednesday came in response to remarks by Younis on Bangladesh cricket and its team captain Shakib Al Hasan during their World Cup match against Sri Lanka on Monday, when the second team’s Angelo Mathews was controversially given "timed out,” becoming the first man to suffer the dismissal in the 146-year history of international cricket.
Besides, the court gave the Bangladesh Cricket Board (BCB) and its president 10 days to respond to the ruling.
A bench comprising Justice Mustafa Zaman Islam and Justice Md Atabullah issued the ruling after the preliminary hearing of a writ petition filed by Supreme Court lawyer Advocate Waliur Rahman Khan on this issue.
In the writ, Younis was criticized for making derogatory comments about Bangladesh cricket and Shakib Al Hasan. During the 38th match of this year’s World Cup, Shakib Al Hasan decided to appeal for a timed-out dismissal of former Sri Lankan captain Angelo Mathews at the Arun Jaitley Stadium in Delhi. While there is a timed-out rule in the ICC regulations, it has not been implemented previously. Mathews requested a new helmet, which took more than two minutes to complete. Shakib, noticing the delay, informed the umpire of it and Mathews was declared timed out.
Younis, along with Sri Lanka's former cricketer Russel Arnold, criticized Shakib's actions in the commentary box, describing the appeal as "unsportsmanlike behaviour."
Younis specifically targeted Shakib, questioning his actions and criticizing Bangladesh's approach, adding that it was against the spirit of cricket.
Source: Dhaka Tribune
A High Court in Bangladesh has issued a ruling against the former Pakistan cricketer Waqar Younis.
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If the honourable High Court thinks that this will result in anything more than the honourable High Court decision being made an object of bemusement and derision, and the honourable High Court itself a laughing stock, why then the honourable High Court is likely to be high(ly) mistaken.
Matthews brother is advocating humanity and talks about gentleman game while threatening Shakib with stones."Stones Will Be Thrown At Him If...": Angelo Mathews' Brother Warns Shakib Al Hasan
A huge controversy erupted earlier this week when veteran Sri Lanka all-rounder Angelo Mathews became the first player in the 146-year history of international cricket to be timed out during his side's Cricket World Cup match against Bangladesh. Mathews had exceeded the two-minute time limit to take strike after he noticed that his helmet strap had come off. Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan made the appeal that Mathews exceeded time limit to take strike, and as a result, the result went against the former Sri Lanka skipper.
Despite the outrage, Shakib refused to take his appeal back, and was later labelled "disgraceful" by an angry Mathews who accused him of "stooping low" by making the appeal for his dismissal.
"Absolutely disgraceful. We all play to win but I never thought a team or player would stoop to such levels to get a wicket," Mathews told the media after the game, which Bangladesh won by three wickets.
Now, Mathews' brother, Trevis, has also criticised Shakib for his actions, saying that the veteran all-rounder will not be welcomed in Sri Lanka. Trevis added that Shakib will be pelted with stones if he comes to play in the Island nation.
"We are very disappointed. Bangladeshi captain has no sportsman spirit and did not show humanity in the gentleman's game. We never expected this right from his captain to the rest of the team members. Shakib is not welcome in Sri Lanka. If he comes here to play any international or LPL matches, stones will be thrown at him, or he will have to face the annoyance of the fans," Trevis told BDCricTime.
Both Sri Lanka and Bangladesh are out of the semi-finals race.
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Not the rivalry we needed but deserved (to spice up the subcontinental cricketMatthews brother is advocating humanity and talks about gentleman game while threatening Shakib with stones.
This strange rivalry gets even more strange.
I am eager to hear the reply from Shakibs uncle to Matthews brother.
Bangladesh should aim to win the ODI and Test series and get their 'revenge'