big_gamer007
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Damn India is too far ahead in test rankings good home season..
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Does capability=performance?Capable? Azhar didn't have a 100 outside UAE/SL until last year in England. He still doesn't have a 100 in NZ despite 2 tours there. Shehzad in his only tour there has a 100 in ODIs. Shehzad has another ODI 100 in SA which was a match winning effort.
Azhar was extremely limited when he started. His SRs consistently hovered in 30s. This is why his conversion rate was ABYSMAL for the first 3 years or so of his career. Infact Azhar only had 4 100s in his first 3 years of playing test cricket, majority of which was in the UAE/SL. FOUR.
Shehzad has a 131 vs Aus and 176 vs NZ, 148 vs SL. I don't care if it was in the UAE. It still takes skill to score those runs. And since majority of our cricket is played in the UAE, he'll be just fine.
You're pretty much clutching at straws here.
"Never been no.1 in that era" Another yorker from Waqar, just stop Rameez, it's embarrassing.
But, but he has more hundreds than Azhar did after he played 13 tests.Lol
Shehzad has toured NZ twice
The hundreds he had against Australi and NZ in UAE were innings where Pakistan scored 500+ and 600+ runs
Any dud with a bat scored in those innings
Shehzad averages 25 in SL and was saved by being dropped for eng and Aus tours ther wise his test record would be as pathetic as his one day record
Shehzad is a failure. In two world cups he averages a MIGHTY 12 against top 10 teams
Lol
Shehzad has toured NZ twice
The hundreds he had against Australi and NZ in UAE were innings where Pakistan scored 500+ and 600+ runs
Any dud with a bat scored in those innings
Shehzad averages 25 in SL and was saved by being dropped for eng and Aus tours ther wise his test record would be as pathetic as his one day record
Shehzad is a failure. In two world cups he averages a MIGHTY 12 against top 10 teams
Take that hatersss
What is this weird across the line whip that shehzad has been trying to do . . almost like he wants to do that kohli whip . . this wasn't in his game before
Scoring runs in the UAE is some achievement.I'm making a case for Shehzad in test team. I accept that he's not good enough for LOIs right now. But for test matches, he's fine.
And yeah those 100s came in innings where Pak scored big and Shehzad had a big hand in that. Way to conveniently ignore that. Both innings ended up coming in wins. Seriously some of y'all will cling to anything to discredit his test achievements just because he has struggled in LOIs. That's unfair.
another funny fact..Misbah has only one hundred I guess outside UAE in tests. I think everyone knows Misbah's true limitations but it's funny to read his fans claim him to be an ATG.
Tuk, tuk n blast
typical Shahzad
Scoring runs in the UAE is some achievement.
Mediocre batsman like Misbah have averages of 50 there.
yea but they have earn fans from across the world due to their swag and style they were second to aussie in terms of rr.
& wih this style of batting fans from pakistan itself not only stop watching but start hating this team
I'm making a case for Shehzad in test team. I accept that he's not good enough for LOIs right now. But for test matches, he's fine.
And yeah those 100s came in innings where Pak scored big and Shehzad had a big hand in that. Way to conveniently ignore that. Both innings ended up coming in wins. Seriously some of y'all will cling to anything to discredit his test achievements just because he has struggled in LOIs. That's unfair.
At this rate Shezad will secure the luckiest century of all time. he's been close to out a dozen times and WI just can't get him off the field.
And let me turn the tables here, how many non-Asian batsmen have succeeded in the UAE in last 7 years? This works both ways! English have mostly struggled outside of Cook and Root. For Aussies only Smith has been good, Warner highly inconsistent.
Fact is, most batsmen today excel at home and struggle away. That's been the general norm in test cricket. The problem is, the scrutiny has only been on Asian batsmen and less on non-Asian ones.
When you have to bring up the failures of others to justify Ahmed's position proves that he isn't good enough. Why settle for mediocrity?Yes like how most of our batsmen score big outside of Asia/UAE?
You realize YK is the ONLY batsman from Pak to have an overall great record outside Asia for Pak batsmen standards right? And Azhar just now after playing for nearly 7 years had a monstrous Aussie series.
Perspective.
Its not just about the numbers, you have to look at his technique. With his static feet and tendency to play away from his body - he's asking for trouble in England when we tour next May.
Azhar is much more technically solid than Shehzad.
Completely false that he has strokes against pace.Azhar had an overall poor series in England on debut outside of that 92* at the Oval. It has taken him years to get to the level he is now. Patience. Shehzad has the strokes against pace bowling. Yes he has some issues technically but as long as he is scoring runs, that's all that matters.
Besides as I keep saying, majority of our cricket is going to be in UAE/SL for the foreseeable future, so Shehzad will be fine. Now if he doesn't produce the goods after getting a good run of lets say a year or so in test team, then by all means replace him with someone else.
We have seen what patience with Azhar has done. He had many lean patches too. Infact he was a poor converter of 50s to 100s his first 3 years despite playing majority of his cricket in UAE. So again, lets have some perspective.
When you have to bring up the failures of others to justify Ahmed's position proves that he isn't good enough. Why settle for mediocrity?
Imran Butt, Imam Ul Haq and Sami Aslam are all better openers then Shehzad.
Can remember the days when people wanted Azhar dropped not just on this forum LOL
Completely false that he has strokes against pace.
He has strokes when the ball is pitched is his zone, outside of his zone and he looks out of place.
Azhar's success has come at the top, it's completely delusional to move him down the order.Imran and Haq can definitely be tried if Shehzad fails to perform consistently say after being in the team for a year. Sami was admirable in England, was alright in NZ, struggled in Australia but was wrongfully dropped. I've already said Sami should be back to open with Shehzad for next series while Azhar slides down to 4.
Bottom line the job of the selectors should be to give top performing prospects a proper run in the team and if they don't perform then move to the next batch of performers until we find some that stick. It's a simple process.
Azhar's success has come at the top, it's completely delusional to move him down the order.
Nope, it doesn't.That holds true for vast majority of the batsmen. Again you are arguing for the sake of it.
Imran and Haq can definitely be tried if Shehzad fails to perform consistently say after being in the team for a year. Sami was admirable in England, was alright in NZ, struggled in Australia but was wrongfully dropped. I've already said Sami should be back to open with Shehzad for next series while Azhar slides down to 4.
Bottom line the job of the selectors should be to give top performing prospects a proper run in the team and if they don't perform then move to the next batch of performers until we find some that stick. It's a simple process.
Shehzad did not deserve a century.
Why disturb him from the position that he's has most success in?He was doing just fine in the middle order before being forced to open.
Hopefully Shehzad learns from this innings of his where he had to grind.
Poor shot by babar needs to learn quickly or will be shown the door soon.