agreed!
See what Saim Ayub's performance was against Bangladesh on home soil and what Yashasvi is doing against Bangladesh on home soil, and he is not done yet currently, he is batting 68* in the first innings of the 2nd Test.
He's no where close to any of the players you've mentioned.
His second innings in second test was a gutsy one.on that mine field,he was the enforcer and set up the target quite straight forward.its equal to a 70 or 80 on any other normal sena pitch
Jaiswal has showed in short time -
Yes but he's hasn't even made an odi debut and hardly played fc.
He has played 26 first class match so far and scored almost 3000 runs
It's still not a big sample size.
He has announced himself batting wise . No obvious technical error .
In terms of ceiling, he is way better than all of them. Of course, if he has a career ending injury and something else bizarre happens, that is different. Therefore, I have no hesitation in putting him above all of them.
Theirs a difference. Not a single person on pat cummins debut in their right mind stated that he'd be superior in test cricket to Brett Lee.
Certain people did, but that always happens whenever anyone makes a rock solid debut.
I think in sports, sometimes you've got to let go of the data and trust your experience and instincts to make judgements. There's professionals who do that. American sport (NFL, NBA, MLB) drafts kids out of high school, college and forces teams to make decisions to select someone No.1 and pay them millions. There's a reason why they had LeBron James on the Sports Illustrated cover at the age of 17.
Are you 16? Cummins was earmarked for greatness since his debut match. There were huge disappointments when he initially got injured. Just about any commentator, player, or a sports journalist who has any sort of knowledge called him a future great.
That's fine, and I don't mind your thinking.
Didn't he wcore a century in debut? If I'm wrong my bad, but I'm referring to his 2010 NZ game
Amd yet these same commentators and sports journalists and ex players like Anil kumble claimed that rizwan was the top 3 best batsmen in the world after his sri lanka 131 which hilariously fell flat as the wc went on and rizzu wasn't even top 10 lol.
It's not like there's no data to support instincts and they're just blind faith.
Sorry Jaiswal's FC average is 70. Stunning stuff really.
Exactly this.
People who are afraid to speak their minds and have strong opinions like to sit on the fence and want to wait even if the evidence is right in front of their face.
Didn’t hype up gill . Gill is dravid style player and will play some solid knocks .jaiswal is higher ceiling .
When did I hype up Gill? Can you read?
Jaiswal is scoring only because he is getting more opportunities.
Saim will also score same number of runs if he gets same number of opportunities.
He is getting more opportunities because he is scoring runs. As you can see Indians lose their places immediately after a couple of failures. Sometimes without bad performance they lose their place.Jaiswal is scoring only because he is getting more opportunities.
Saim will also score same number of runs if he gets same number of opportunities.
Saim Ayub is also a better bowler
Ok, never seen him bowl, but will give you that.
His white ball game can improve but I don't see him doing any better in Red ball. Jaiswal is a multi-dimentional player and he can play all-formats easily unlike Saim.
We have Huraira for red ball format as he can do the job of getting out caught behind in the first 5 overs of a test match on a consistent basis.
As compared to Jaiswal, Saim looks like a tail-ender no matter the format. I hope saim can learn how to be a good player with solid temperament, he is a generational talent but is just too careless.
Saim is not even comparable to Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad in raw talent terms. But then even Rizwan is not talented as Shehzad and Akmal but achieved much more than them.
Jaiswal is a pedigree player.Saim can probably be compared with Alick Athanze who is yet to realize his full potential. He was the highest run getter in 2016 or 2018 U19 world cup
Our pitches were far more spicier .don't insult jaiswal.bowlers were wood,Anderson etc and he breached 700 runs mark in the series
Why not compare Jaiswal to an actual proper left handed opener? Travis head?
Travis Head isn't opener in tests.. Plus he is 9 years elder to Yashaswi.. have some brain salty.
He will open in test now that the Smith experiment is over as is shpuld be.
Here comes the Travis head in the discussion although this is saim and jaiswal threads .
I apologise. Genuinely I do. I will respect the Integrity of this thread, even though it's a troll thread and you lot are too afraid to compare jaiswal to actual Class.Here comes the Travis head in the discussion although this is saim and jaiswal threads .
Here's the comparison:
I've argued this to death and won. Score a century in your country against the world's best bowling attack in their own den in a world cup final amd cause them to evacuate the stadium 2 hrs before the game concludes and then we'll talk
You remember someone named Travis head who wiped Indian crowd from the face of the earth 2 hrs before the final concluded?
Different format, different game.
Exactly, which is why he needs to learn his place in the pecking order
Which pecking order?
Another thread, you brought up an Australian and then you get angry, when others point it out.
He has a superior record because he's played on easier pitches, hasn't travelled the world, hasn't played around the world, hasn't played a cup because he was rightfully booted by rohit and kohli since the very next game he played he lost the game to a minnow team
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Because this thread is a troll and massive one. You're comparing rubbish to someone who will obviously have a luxury career but will always remain behind Travis in the pecking order
It isn't a troll thread. Rana had started it and some Pakistanis and one wannbe had even argued that Saim was better
Brother rana started it when their was no data on either of these 2.
Yes, you want to troll another Indian player.
Travis head has been playing internationals for 8 years. After few years of struggle he hit a purple patch. He is only 4 years younger than Kohli. Jaiswal is just starting his career.
Australia > India >>>>>>>>> Pakistan historically. So yes, I'd say both of us are on the same page.
And yet people are putting him > Anwar, Ganguly, Yuvi right off thr bat with zero achievements.
gap between India and Pakistan isn't that big historically.
Counting the fact that history is now factoring in 2011 to 2024 which is a good 13 years of history added into the mix as well.
