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1st Test, Lord's : England beat New Zealand by 124 runs

Dangerman Williamson falls a bit early.Thanks to Stokes.

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I was at surprised how this stokes guy was not playing regularly for England after the last year ashes performance . . .
 
I was surprised at how this stokes guy was not playing regularly for England after the last year ashes performance . . .
 
Stunning catch :bow: it's not easy taking those running back on the full stretch
 
Talk Nah! at the guys criticizing Stokes and his bowling, wonderful performance from him with ball and bat; so excited for this guy. England have found a prospect which has the potential to fill the void left by Flintoff. Brilliant performance by the England bowlers that bowled well collectively, am just loving this attack as a package; hope to see Woods in the Ashes
 
Bad day at the office for PPers, given his much they despise England and the fact that New Zealand are the new darlings along with South Africa.

Not a good day for Pietersen apologists either. England are still a force to reckoned with at home and the Ashes isn't a foregone conclusion.
 
Mamoon said:
Bad day at the office for PPers, given his much they despise England and the fact that New Zealand are the new darlings along with South Africa.

Not a good day for Pietersen apologists either. England are still a force to reckoned with at home and the Ashes isn't a foregone conclusion.
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This.
 
It's just pure hate towards England.

They do have some very good players.
 
Fantastic match, got to admire England for the fightback, was quite brilliant.
 
Fantastic, fantastic match. This is why Tests are the ultimate litmus test for a player international player.

Well Done England.
 
Mamoon said:
Bad day at the office for PPers, given his much they despise England and the fact that New Zealand are the new darlings along with South Africa.

Not a good day for Pietersen apologists either. England are still a force to reckoned with at home and the Ashes isn't a foregone conclusion.
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A pat on the back for ECB for not going back to 34 year old has been's. People were delusional saying England cannot win. It just goes to show what you can achieve if you believe in youngsters.
PCB should take a leaf out of ECB's book.
 
Lol at exciting cricket, whats the point of sitting through 4 days of boredom, just for a day of interesting cricket. IPL has closer matches than this on a daily basis.
 
Mamoon said:
Bad day at the office for PPers, given his much they despise England and the fact that New Zealand are the new darlings along with South Africa.

Not a good day for Pietersen apologists either. England are still a force to reckoned with at home and the Ashes isn't a foregone conclusion.
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Yep. Lord's salutes Cook, the press will be all over Stokes and the KP-ECB fiasco will finally fizzle out.

Well done England - most magnificent after that awful first hour on Thursday and NZ piling up 500.

This is why they call it test cricket - a test of character and will, of fitness and endurance as well as skill.
 
England surprised everyone, including me. It seemed NZ had the momentum after the WC, England with a terrible buildup - all heading towards a car crash summer.

But they've shown huge guts coming back from 30-4. Cook's captaincy was good too. Broad showed why he's still picked and Stokes had the performance of his life.
 
Bittersweet (or maybe just bitter) for Moores. His beloved young players and captain stepping up in this match
 
Robert said:
Yep. Lord's salutes Cook, the press will be all over Stokes and the KP-ECB fiasco will finally fizzle out.

Well done England - most magnificent after that awful first hour on Thursday and NZ piling up 500.

This is why they call it test cricket - a test of character and will, of fitness and endurance as well as skill.
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If they keep winning sure it will but the team would be stronger with KP in it.

Drop Lyth for Hales and Ballance for KP.

Alex Hales
Cook
Bell (More suited to the no.3 position)
KP
Root
Stokes
Butler
Ali

Tell me that line up wouldn't send shivers down the opponents spine :akhtar
 
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shaz619 said:
If they keep winning sure it will but the team would be stronger with KP in it.

Drop Lyth for Hales and Ballance for KP.

Alex Hales
Cook
Bell (More suited to the no.3 position)
KP
Root
Stokes
Butler
Ali

Tell me that line up wouldn't send shivers down the opponents spine :akhtar
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Why drop Ballance?
 
shaz619 said:
If they keep winning sure it will but the team would be stronger with KP in it.

Tell me that line up wouldn't send shivers down the opponents spine
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Looks good on paper but Gaz is averaging sixty in tests and I wouldn't drop him for one bad performance.

If anyone is vulnerable I'd say Bell - three tests without a score now.
 
Cricket_Fan93 said:
Lol at exciting cricket, whats the point of sitting through 4 days of boredom, just for a day of interesting cricket. IPL has closer matches than this on a daily basis.
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Maybe you haven't watched Test Cricket before, the whole Test has been terrific.
 
Cricket lover 27 said:
A pat on the back for ECB for not going back to 34 year old has been's. People were delusional saying England cannot win. It just goes to show what you can achieve if you believe in youngsters.
PCB should take a leaf out of ECB's book.
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It also has to do with the quality of the youngsters. We don't have anyone of the caliber of Root and Stokes.
 
If they had played KP, they could have put New Zealand in to bat last night #piersmorganlogic #350
 
shaz619 said:
If they keep winning sure it will but the team would be stronger with KP in it.

Drop Lyth for Hales and Ballance for KP.

Alex Hales
Cook
Bell (More suited to the no.3 position)
KP
Root
Stokes
Butler
Ali

Tell me that line up wouldn't send shivers down the opponents spine :akhtar
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England must move on from Pietersen and invest in James Taylor.
 
rooster said:
Why drop Ballance?
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Robert said:
Looks good on paper but Gaz is averaging sixty in tests and I wouldn't drop him for one bad performance.

If anyone is vulnerable I'd say Bell - three tests without a score now.
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Am not confident he will score runs in a high profile Ashes series irrespective of his record, would pick KP over him any day. Bell needs a big score but he's a proven performer that will come good. Anyhow we'll have a better idea after this Test Series has been completed. KP is probably not going to ever play for England again anyway, at best can hope for Hales replacing Lyth. And Ballance will have to be backed but if he doesn't come good in the remaining test, there's a guy called Taylor they could try.
 
Ballance is a very good player in Tests. He's just had a bad match here.

Ian Bell on the other hand blows hot and cold consistently, and if it wasn't for some fans getting seduced by his cover-drives and flicks, he'd have more criticism.
 
Cricket_Fan93 said:
Lol at exciting cricket, whats the point of sitting through 4 days of boredom, just for a day of interesting cricket. IPL has closer matches than this on a daily basis.
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FAIL.

Great game of cricket just like I expected and I felt Nzl could feel a bit hard done by, Craig and Southee not being at the races cost them around 150 runs not to mention the romance of a New Zealand born lad putting in a MOTM performance in 3/4 of the innings in this game. It proved to be the difference between a draw and an England win. I'm still not sure how Nzl lost that one to be fair especially when you think that till day 4 they arguably had the upper hand and actually bowled really well yesterday morning. Oh well. Baz's aggression didn't really pay off this time but it led to a great game and forced Ingurland to up their game too.
 
Mamoon said:
It also has to do with the quality of the youngsters. We don't have anyone of the caliber of Root and Stokes.
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Well the matches in Bangladesh and now also in t-20's the youngsters performed while the seniors contributed nothing to the table

Tell me what caliber the seniors brought in our team
 
shaz619 said:
Am not confident he will score runs in a high profile Ashes series irrespective of his record, would pick KP over him any day. Bell needs a big score but he's a proven performer that will come good. Anyhow we'll have a better idea after this Test Series has been completed. KP is probably not going to ever play for England again anyway, at best can hope for Hales replacing Lyth. And Ballance will have to be backed but if he doesn't come good in the remaining test, there's a guy called Taylor they could try.
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Ballance failed vs Australia and NZ but he played just one test aginst each. Cannot drop him based on that. He's the future No.3 and Root is the future No.4 so he should be persisted. Ballance doesn't have a great technique but his temperament is one of the best among the youngsters.
 
England are very much a clutch team and they have very good players.

I really thought this would be a draw and even on day 5 the wicket was still good to bat on.

Eng know how to fight and they just never give up.
 
rooster said:
Ballance failed vs Australia and NZ but he played just one test aginst each. Cannot drop him based on that. He's the future No.3 and Root is the future No.4 so he should be persisted. Ballance doesn't have a great technique but his temperament is one of the best among the youngsters.
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Not going to argue if he is not dropped because on merit he doesn't deserve the axe. Just don't rate him as one for the future, as far as the future is concerned Taylor has all the attributes required to me a world class no.3 for England.
 
England vs New Zealand | First Test match | Lord's | 21-25 May 2015

shaz619 said:
Not going to argue if he is not dropped because on merit he doesn't deserve the axe. Just don't rate him as one for the future, as far as the future is concerned Taylor has all the attributes required to me a world class no.3 for England.
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Yeah. But nobody knows why he was dropped though. Tbh he should replace Bell, he's still 25 I guess so he has time in his side.
 
Bell really blow hot and cold. He is a very good batsman but he hasn't managed to reach the level that he should have by now.

He is a modern day, right-handed David Gower.
 
Ballance can be an opener in the long run but as long as Cook is there, it's not going to work.

As far as Cook is concerned, he showed again why he is the ultimate Test opener. What a knock under severe pressure. He would have been grilled with seasoning had England lost the match.

Warner can play blistering knocks but I highly doubt if he can produce something like this.
 
Mamoon said:
Bell really blow hot and cold. He is a very good batsman but he hasn't managed to reach the level that he should have by now.

He is a modern day, right-handed David Gower.
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Doesn't really blow hot and cold **
 
Mamoon said:
Bad day at the office for PPers, given his much they despise England and the fact that New Zealand are the new darlings along with South Africa.

Not a good day for Pietersen apologists either. England are still a force to reckoned with at home and the Ashes isn't a foregone conclusion.
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Yeah not really.
 
Won with massive guts and considerable skill too. A surprise victory for many, including me, but I'll take it!
 
leatherface58 said:
Yeah not really.
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Actually yes, if your ignore the reaction to McCullum's comments after Hughes' death.

Apart from that, you lot are one of the good guys but in general, any team playing England is apart from India.
 
Easy! Can we play you every week!

Off we go to The Real Home Of Cricket for the second Test where only a miracle can save the little hobbits.
 
The numbers are extraordinary when you look at it.

New Zealand put up 523 (first time ever they scored 500+ in a Test and lost), they lead by 134, take 20 wickets, and yet still lose by 124 runs.

They should have won this, and questions should be asked.
 
Mamoon said:
Bell really blow hot and cold. He is a very good batsman but he hasn't managed to reach the level that he should have by now.

He is a modern day, right-handed David Gower.
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Gower did it more consistently against good attacks than Bell, who has always truck me as lacking a bit of ticker.
 
Cricket lover 27 said:
A pat on the back for ECB for not going back to 34 year old has been's. People were delusional saying England cannot win. It just goes to show what you can achieve if you believe in youngsters.
PCB should take a leaf out of ECB's book.
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Last time I looked Pakistan were a significantly better team than England
 
Robert said:
Gower did it more consistently against good attacks than Bell, who has always truck me as lacking a bit of ticker.
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Was hoping Bell had turned a corner a couple of years ago. Wasn't to be.

Is it just me or did he seem to bat a lot better when KP was also in the lineup to take some of that burden off him?
 
Markhor said:
The numbers are extraordinary when you look at it.

New Zealand put up 523 (first time ever they scored 500+ in a Test and lost), they lead by 134, take 20 wickets, and yet still lose by 124 runs.

They should have won this, and questions should be asked.
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Amazing test. Goes to show that you can dominate most sessions barring a few critical ones late in the match and completely lose the ploy.
 
Mamoon said:
Ballance can be an opener in the long run but as long as Cook is there, it's not going to work.

As far as Cook is concerned, he showed again why he is the ultimate Test opener. What a knock under severe pressure. He would have been grilled with seasoning had England lost the match.

Warner can play blistering knocks but I highly doubt if he can produce something like this.
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As much as his batting saved him and England, his captaincy on the final day was what I was very impressed with. For a change.
 
Since 2000 England have always been a tough team to beat at home in tests. Not that much of a shock result but New Zealand can bounce back.
 
"Emotionally our guys are really steady and that's allowed us to be able to play some good cricket so that will be the message, no knee jerk reaction to a performance like this because we were pretty good for most of it." McCullum

If clarke came out with a line like that when we **** away a crucial ashes test i would want to wring his neck.

Kiwis had the best of conditions multiple great positions(almost can't lose positions) and choked on it they shouldn't be scrounging around looking for the positives.
 
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