Arsenal FC | 2023/24 Season

All in for the bants, the inevitable meltdown and useless predictions. It's done. :ua@Mamoon
 
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Brother the aim of football is to get a result that is beneficial to your team, sometimes that is to win, sometimes that is to draw and sometimes it is to simply avoid a heavy defeat

It is arrogance to think people should play football in a certain way and objectively speaking there is no right or wrong way to play football

Now, subjectively I prefer football to be played in a certain way, prime Barca being my favourite but I loved the football Wenger brought to this country, it was a joy to watch and very different to the direct football we saw before

However, not all teams are equal and if you think all teams will come out and play fast and not look to slow the game down to suit themselves then you live in a utopian world

I've seen every single team waste time, some will just do it more than others depending on each teams circumstances. For me criticism of that shouldn't get levelled at the team but rather the referee
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way Newcastle play. It is effective and impressive. Besides, Arsenal fans are not in a position to criticize others - Arsenal under Arteta is one of the nastiest and dirtiest teams in the league and I love it.

I was sick of watching soft Arsenal teams in the second half of Wenger’s tenure.
 
All in for the bants, the inevitable meltdown and bonkers predictions. It's done. :ua@Mamoon
Klopp has no clue how to beat Arteta in the league ever since Arteta assembled a squad capable of fighting for the title.

Too bad he is running away in the summer. I was looking forward to Arteta schooling him for years to come.
 
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Arsenal under Arteta is one of the nastiest and dirtiest teams in the league and I love it.

We have baby soft players like Zinchenko and are led by Odegaard.
 
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We have baby soft players like Zinchenko and are led by Odegaard.


Arsenal are as timid and mentally fragile as they come.

Look at the childish celebrations after the game by the captain, anyone would think we had won the league yesterday. We saw same over celebrating last season as well.

On top of that the same loser thinks Arsenal are in a position where they can pick and choose what competitions to take seriously.
 
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Its another one of his wild delusion fantasies.

Arsenal are as timid and mentally fragile as they come.

Look at the childish celebrations after the game by the captain, anyone would think we had won the league yesterday. We saw same over celebrating last season as well.

On top of that the same loser thinks Arsenal are in a position where they can pick and choose what competitions to take seriously.

Delusion at its finest.

Spot on. When I look at this team, the likes of Raya, Zinchenko and Odegaard, who are all Arteta’s golden boys, stick out like a sore thumb. They’re all mentally fragile and timid as you say and that’s evident by the fact that Arsenal have bottled top 4 and the title in the last two seasons.

Mamoon’s assessment of this team is more aligned to the invincibles side. It’s delusional for him to think that this current Arsenal team is menacing let alone worthy of challenging for the title on a consistent basis, as it still needs a major overhaul and rebuild with another 4-5 players.
 
Spot on. When I look at this team, the likes of Raya, Zinchenko and Odegaard, who are all Arteta’s golden boys, stick out like a sore thumb. They’re all mentally fragile and timid as you say and that’s evident by the fact that Arsenal have bottled top 4 and the title in the last two seasons.

Mamoon’s assessment of this team is more aligned to the invincibles side. It’s delusional for him to think that this current Arsenal team is menacing let alone worthy of challenging for the title on a consistent basis, as it still needs a major overhaul and rebuild with another 4-5 players.
Yesterday was a good victory, but the club is to fascinated with doing things for the camera and social media

Team huddles after conceding goals

Oddegard and Zinchenko cheerleading and waving arms.


"The wall of achievements" at the training where players write their success of the season

Yesterday's camera man stuff

Club seems more interested in some sort of popularity contest, then winning trophies

This weak mentality is exactly why come end of march / April when pressure gets cranked up the team will look like scared rabbits in middle of road.

Current team in nowhere near the levels oh 97/98, 01/02 or 03/04 team.
 
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Havertz really got the better of our midfielders which tells me one thing. Arsenal need to go for a player with target man attributes who can finish in the final third. Someone like Toney’s profile makes a lot more sense now.

A solid win yesterday for Arsenal but consistency is the key now. Arteta coached Arsenal to an exceptional win yesterday.
 
Havertz played well yesterday. Yes he missed the chance but bad finishing is the hallmark of this team, not fair to single him out.

He was a nuisance for VVD and Konate and roughened them up. Only people who know nothing about football thought he had a poor game.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way Newcastle play. It is effective and impressive. Besides, Arsenal fans are not in a position to criticize others - Arsenal under Arteta is one of the nastiest and dirtiest teams in the league and I love it.

I was sick of watching soft Arsenal teams in the second half of Wenger’s tenure.

I do agree that this Arsenal side has an edge to it and that's a good thing

It was only a few years ago you had someone with very little talent, Troy Deeney, mocking Arsenal for being soft and weak and it was quite accurate. Loads of teams would bully Arsenal whereas that doesn't really happen that much anymore
 
Havertz played well yesterday. Yes he missed the chance but bad finishing is the hallmark of this team, not fair to single him out.

He was a nuisance for VVD and Konate and roughened them up. Only people who know nothing about football thought he had a poor game.
🤣🤣 so now havertz garbage finishing isn't an issue because of rest of team not been clinical. Same donkey who missed chances galore in FA Cup game to .

Only person who doesn't know about football is you .
 
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Arsenal have reportedly been invited to bid for Ivan Toney as Brentford boss Thomas Frank admits the striker is 'likely to be sold'
 
February

10: West Ham (a)

17: Burnley (a)

24: Newcastle (h)

March

2: Sheffield United (a)

9: Brentford (h)

16: Chelsea (h)

Arsenal should be aiming for 5 wins and a draw Minimum from next 6 PL games
 
February

10: West Ham (a)

17: Burnley (a)

24: Newcastle (h)

March

2: Sheffield United (a)

9: Brentford (h)

16: Chelsea (h)

Arsenal should be aiming for 5 wins and a draw Minimum from next 6 PL games

All winnable games and games you would expect a team who wants to be taken seriously for the title to win. Having said that, winning all will mean we win 9 games in row which I don't think we are capable of.
Liverpool and City are capable and if we want to be at their table then we must do this to.

Which game would you say would be a draw? I would expect us to win our Home games. United and Burnley are poor teams. West Ham should be difficult as they have dealt with us last 2 meetings. But they have been so poor since they beat us at the Emirates and I expect a win.

Also bear in mind that the Chelsea game will probably be moved if they beat Leeds in the FA Cup. So the following game would be City. We know how that normally ends lol.
 
All winnable games and games you would expect a team who wants to be taken seriously for the title to win. Having said that, winning all will mean we win 9 games in row which I don't think we are capable of.
Liverpool and City are capable and if we want to be at their table then we must do this to.

Which game would you say would be a draw? I would expect us to win our Home games. United and Burnley are poor teams. West Ham should be difficult as they have dealt with us last 2 meetings. But they have been so poor since they beat us at the Emirates and I expect a win.

Also bear in mind that the Chelsea game will probably be moved if they beat Leeds in the FA Cup. So the following game would be City. We know how that normally ends lol.
Only West ham (A) is tricky if this team wants to to show real quality. Our record against West ham has generally been good, up until last 3 fixtures. We are capable of winning at West ham, but will have to play well. The other 5 games we should be swatting those teams aside.

Then the real pressure will start, because this team has shown its usually crumbles in April / May (,top 4 bottled / title bottled) and when the last 9 fixtures come round we have 4 very tough away games at City, brighton, spurs and united.

I think Arsenal will win 5 out of the next 6 games, but like I said at start of season. The last 9 fixtures is where it will fall apart again. This is where Liverpool / City then show they can win 8, 9, 10 games on the spin.

Arsenal need to get to the eithad game either ahead of Liverpool or City or still in range.

March

30: Man City (a)

April

2: Luton (h)

6: Brighton (a)

13: Aston Villa (h)

20: Wolves (a)

27: Tottenham (a)

May

4: Bournemouth (h)

11: Manchester United (a)

19: Everton (h)
 
But but but but Odegaard ghosts games and has been poor this season 🤡

He is world class. One of the best in the world in his position/role and Arsenal are incredibly blessed to him.

The fact that he is only 25 means that his best is yes to come. He is world class even though he hasn’t peaked yet. Special player.

He is the greatest signing of the Arteta era by far because a play with a potential market fee of £100m was signed for £30m only.

He is the player that City would have tapped up to replace De Bruyne in a couple of years if Arteta hadn’t turned Arsenal into title contenders, but City now know that he is not going to leave Arsenal for them.

Respect your captain and one of your very few world class players.

@Amjid Javed @topspin
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What a team. What a performance. What a manager.

@Amjid Javed You really thought and hoped Arsenal would drop points today, didn’t you? 🤣

If Arsenal were down you would be posting in this thread every second.
 
Brilliant from Arsenal

Hope they can score a few more, need West Ham and also Man U to keep dropping points
 
Probably Arsenal's best 45 mins of season. I don't hide like certain cowards on here.
Get behind the team and enjoy the good performances and don't be drawn in by trolls. That way you'll enjoy life more and this thread will be far more enjoyable (come win or lose)...

No doubt you're thinking about how you'll reply to a certain poster... but please don't
 
Get behind the team and enjoy the good performances and don't be drawn in by trolls. That way you'll enjoy life more and this thread will be far more enjoyable (come win or lose)...

No doubt you're thinking about how you'll reply to a certain poster... but please don't
I'm happy with performance and for me this was the toughest out of the next 6 games, I said Arsensl would won 5 out next 6 games. Full momentum needs to be taken into city away game at end of march
 
Utter humiliation for West Ham fans but they deserve it. Ran their mouths before the game, booed Rice until he provided two assists and they had to flee the stadium before HT. 🤣

The Hammers Hammered into oblivion. Hopefully, similarly treatment will be dished out to the small club Aston Villa and their small manager Emery and the crybaby Martinez.
 
Are you allowed to celebrate a 6-0 win at West Ham after they booed Rice until he owned them?

Arteta didn’t run across the touchline today and no one got hold of a camera.

As a subject matter expert in celebrations, can you please confirm if this celebration was within the parameters of acceptable

celebration or was it OTT?
 
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Get behind the team and enjoy the good performances and don't be drawn in by trolls. That way you'll enjoy life more and this thread will be far more enjoyable (come win or lose)...

No doubt you're thinking about how you'll reply to a certain poster... but please don't

Anyway great performance. Always a good thing when you score 6 and you feel like you should have scored more.

We really need our injured players back. The bench looked very weak today. We won't always be coasting and the bench will be needed.

Partey, timber, jesus, tomiyasu, Zinchenko, jorginho even Vieira coming back will be a huge boost. Suddenly we have a decent squad.

Anyway enjoy this one lads
 
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That was some performance. Certainly the most dominant I’ve seen from Arsenal under Arteta.

Stand out performers were Saka and Rice. The former deserved his MOTM.

This was the best performance from Rice in the last third of the pitch, where he scored a beauty and produced 2 x assists to prove that he’s more than just a world class DM.

Arsenal have 5 tough away games left:
  • City
  • Man U
  • Spurs
  • Brighton
  • Wolves
If Arsenal can avoid defeat against City and win the rest of these they will have a great chance of winning the league.

As for the remaining home games, they’re not so bad. Arsenal need to make sure they win all these. Toughest home games will be against Villa Newcastle and Chelsea.
 
Not heard much from the Unai Emery fan club on this thread recently. It's the Unai way. Unless it's the Europa league he shows promise tries to get to clever and goes full Unai
 
That was some performance. Certainly the most dominant I’ve seen from Arsenal under Arteta.

Stand out performers were Saka and Rice. The former deserved his MOTM.

This was the best performance from Rice in the last third of the pitch, where he scored a beauty and produced 2 x assists to prove that he’s more than just a world class DM.

Arsenal have 5 tough away games left:
  • City
  • Man U
  • Spurs
  • Brighton
  • Wolves
If Arsenal can avoid defeat against City and win the rest of these they will have a great chance of winning the league.

As for the remaining home games, they’re not so bad. Arsenal need to make sure they win all these. Toughest home games will be against Villa Newcastle and Chelsea.
“Odegaard is a ghost away from home and Arsenal should have signed Maddison instead” 🤣

Odegaard today:
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“Aston Villa is in a title race” 🤡

Ft. @Amjid Javed @topspin
This wasn't a dig at any poster. Just a mere question as there was a lot of Unai bigging up to bash Arteta with. About win % since Unai came in. How he had accumulated the most points apart from by Pep.

I'd just like people to keep the same energy both ways. Not only when it's a stick to beat Arteta with.
 
This wasn't a dig at any poster. Just a mere question as there was a lot of Unai bigging up to bash Arteta with. About win % since Unai came in. How he had accumulated the most points apart from by Pep.

I'd just like people to keep the same energy both ways. Not only when it's a stick to beat Arteta with.
3 wins in 10 across all comps for Unai. Those were against Burnley sheff United and Boro...
 
3 wins in 10 across all comps for Unai. Those were against Burnley sheff United and Boro...
Emery is not cut for the big leagues. He is made for a club that would celebrate finishing 6th/7th and never harbor the ambitions of winning the league.

He is perfect for Villa because his ceiling as a manager matches up with the Villa’s ambitions and expectations.

If he leaves Villa today, I can guarantee that you no top club will look at him especially after the way he flopped at PSG and Arsenal.

Villarreal, Aston Villa, Sevilla, Valencia etc. he is made for these clubs.

The Arsenal board quickly realized that Emery didn’t have what it takes to turn Arsenal into title contenders and eventually, league winners.

It is laughable that there are a section of fans, especially Arsenal fans, who think Arteta is inferior to Emery and doesn’t have a much higher ceiling as a manager.

If Arteta decides to leave Arsenal today, he will not be shortage of suitors and plenty of top clubs in Europe will be interested in hiring him.
 
🤣🤣 the Arteta premature celebrations once again.

Arsenal started the weekend in 3rd place and ended the weekend in 3rd place

Yet a certain ppl here thinks doing bhangra and tagging everyone in posts.

The irony is the 🤡 sees 3rd place as failure.

Premature excitement as it's finest 🤡.
 
That was some performance. Certainly the most dominant I’ve seen from Arsenal under Arteta.

Stand out performers were Saka and Rice. The former deserved his MOTM.

This was the best performance from Rice in the last third of the pitch, where he scored a beauty and produced 2 x assists to prove that he’s more than just a world class DM.

Arsenal have 5 tough away games left:
  • City
  • Man U
  • Spurs
  • Brighton
  • Wolves
If Arsenal can avoid defeat against City and win the rest of these they will have a great chance of winning the league.

As for the remaining home games, they’re not so bad. Arsenal need to make sure they win all these. Toughest home games will be against Villa Newcastle and Chelsea.
All those 5 away games are within Arsenal's last 9 fixtures, which i said would be make or break (I said this as start of season).

Looking at CItys last 9 fixtures of season you would expect them to win 8 out last 9.

Right now Arsenal need to win every game between now and when they visit Eithad at of March.
 
Not heard much from the Unai Emery fan club on this thread recently. It's the Unai way. Unless it's the Europa league he shows promise tries to get to clever and goes full Unai
Unai Emery has Villa 5th in his 1st full season currently, Arteta was languishing in 8th in his 1st full season. What point you making?

The fact Arsensl are heading for a 4th trophyless season in row and fans won't to look at other clubs.
 
“Odegaard is a ghost away from home and Arsenal should have signed Maddison instead” 🤣

Odegaard today:
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We will see where the ghost is when he dissapears at pressure end of season. The fact he dissapeard at the eithad last season when Arsenal bottled the league, only more cowardly dissaperance was you suddenly running off with tears running down your face at end of last season.

Word of note all this bhangra and Arsenal are sat in 3rd.

But according to you Arsenal were top 2 side now and 3rd is failure. The irony of your silly name tagging and nonsense is hilarious.

As things stand you will be writing your apology at end of season 🤡
 
Unai Emery has Villa 5th in his 1st full season currently, Arteta was languishing in 8th in his 1st full season. What point you making?

The fact Arsensl are heading for a 4th trophyless season in row and fans won't to look at other clubs.
You are the one who always looks at other clubs when it suits your agenda.

Please bring up the stats about "since Emery joined Villa" now please? I honestly don't know if they have accumulated more points or not. You've conveniently stopped mentioning it.

5th and 3rd both unacceptable.If Arteta doesn't win owt, Assessment is needed and decisions made if end up miles off eventual winners.
 
So the same Arsenal fans who claimed West Ham is not an ambitious team, are celebrating OTT style with a win over West Ham!

😂😂😂
 
So the same Arsenal fans who claimed West Ham is not an ambitious team, are celebrating OTT style with a win over West Ham!

😂😂😂
I ask again, and I shall continueth to asketh until thee stand ho bottling this questioneth.

Please define the parameters of acceptable celebrations and OTT celebrations.

What is the threshold of acceptable celebrations? If you are allowed to run on the touch line, how far can you go before it becomes unacceptable?

If you are doing fist bumps, how many can you do before it becomes unacceptable?

If taking a picture of the club photographer with his camera OTT, under what circumstances can you celebrate like this for it to not be OTT?

In fact, why don’t you record a video doing celebrations so that we can clearly understand how to celebrate in different situations to ensure that they are not OTT.

As a subject matter expert in celebrations, simply pointing out OTT celebrations will not help. You need to enlighten us and Arsenal as a football club on how to celebrate and we promise we will do our best to comply with the rules that you establish.
 
So the same Arsenal fans who claimed West Ham is not an ambitious team, are celebrating OTT style with a win over West Ham!

😂😂😂
Just remember the leader of Arsenal bhangra supports club is getting excited over being In 3rd place, which according to him is failure. Yeah some Arsenal fans continue get over excited over zero achievements
 
I ask again, and I shall continueth to asketh until thee stand ho bottling this questioneth.

Please define the parameters of acceptable celebrations and OTT celebrations.

What is the threshold of acceptable celebrations? If you are allowed to run on the touch line, how far can you go before it becomes unacceptable?

If you are doing fist bumps, how many can you do before it becomes unacceptable?

If taking a picture of the club photographer with his camera OTT, under what circumstances can you celebrate like this for it to not be OTT?

In fact, why don’t you record a video doing celebrations so that we can clearly understand how to celebrate in different situations to ensure that they are not OTT.

As a subject matter expert in celebrations, simply pointing out OTT celebrations will not help. You need to enlighten us and Arsenal as a football club on how to celebrate and we promise we will do our best to comply with the rules that you establish.

There is no parameters or thresholds.

However. There is a mentality issue between failure and success.

Pep as a serial winner would see this as as another day in the office.

Arteta , with his lack of success sees this as success, hence joyous and uncontrollable, even though there's still a third of the season to be played.
 
The positive is Arsenal have regained form since mid-season break

Cleansheets and scoring lots of goals is good.

But the reality is there are 14 games left (15 for City)

All of these teams over next few weeks have games that they should be winning

Liverpool - Brentford (A), Luton (H), forrest (A) Man city (H) Everton (A)

Man city - Chelsea (A), Brentford (H) Bournemouth (A) Man utd (H) Liverpool (A)

Arsenal - Burnley (A), Newcastle (H) Sheff utd (A) Brentford (H), Chelsea (H)

Right now it's bough just win game. Move onto the next.

We all know that Man city and Liverpool are use to going down the final stretch when it's comes to end of march / April

So I don't get all this over excitement from certain 🤡 on here tagging people like Arsenal have suddenly proved themselves

Wait till pressure is fully cranked and usually Arteta, Oddegard etc..
 
There is no parameters or thresholds.

However. There is a mentality issue between failure and success.

Pep as a serial winner would see this as as another day in the office.

Arteta , with his lack of success sees this as success, hence joyous and uncontrollable, even though there's still a third of the season to be played.
Let’s be honest - Arsenal smashing Liverpool was not part of the script. It was not what you and others were expecting and your reaction clearly shows that you were not prepared for it.

Therefore, the tears over the way Arsenal celebrated because you needed to latch onto something to divert the attention and to avoid giving due credit to Arteta who completely owned Klopp.

Again, you can’t throw words like “joyous” and “uncontrollable” without defining what controllable looks like and what the parameters are.

You cannot criticize someone for doing something wrong without explaining what doing something right would look like.

You clearly cannot walk the talk and and never will because deep down you know that you and others are crying over the celebrations because you want to avoid giving Arteta credit.

Speaking of Pep, did you see his celebration in the Community Shield when Cole Palmer sent City 1-0 up vs Arsenal?

Would you categorize that celebration as controllable and an illustration of another day at the office?

Or do you remember Klopp breaking his glasses because of wild celebrations when his team beat Norwich to stay in hunt for a top 4 finish? Or do you remember him running along the touch line back in the day as Liverpool moved from 6th to 5th in the table?

When Pep, Klopp and others celebrate it is passion but when Arteta does, it is reflective of his weak mentality. Do you really think you can others can get away with this shameless hypocrisy on my watch? Never.

Too bad no one TV has been able to own the likes of Neville, Carragher, Keane etc. and silenced them on this celebration nonsense the way I have owned you and others in this thread.
 
Let’s be honest - Arsenal smashing Liverpool was not part of the script. It was not what you and others were expecting and your reaction clearly shows that you were not prepared for it.

Therefore, the tears over the way Arsenal celebrated because you needed to latch onto something to divert the attention and to avoid giving due credit to Arteta who completely owned Klopp.

Again, you can’t throw words like “joyous” and “uncontrollable” without defining what controllable looks like and what the parameters are.

You cannot criticize someone for doing something wrong without explaining what doing something right would look like.

You clearly cannot walk the talk and and never will because deep down you know that you and others are crying over the celebrations because you want to avoid giving Arteta credit.

Speaking of Pep, did you see his celebration in the Community Shield when Cole Palmer sent City 1-0 up vs Arsenal?

Would you categorize that celebration as controllable and an illustration of another day at the office?

Or do you remember Klopp breaking his glasses because of wild celebrations when his team beat Norwich to stay in hunt for a top 4 finish? Or do you remember him running along the touch line back in the day as Liverpool moved from 6th to 5th in the table?

When Pep, Klopp and others celebrate it is passion but when Arteta does, it is reflective of his weak mentality. Do you really think you can others can get away with this shameless hypocrisy on my watch? Never.

Too bad no one TV has been able to own the likes of Neville, Carragher, Keane etc. and silenced them on this celebration nonsense the way I have owned you and others in this thread.
🤣🤣 only person owned is the 🤡 who had egg and tomatoes over his face and ran off like a coward. So much so you didn't even have the balls to predict an actual singular finishing position for Arsenal this season. Why because your scared you will get humilated again. So for all the chest beating, your actions are hilarious.

Doing bhangra over being in 3rd place. When you said you will apologize if Arsenal fail. According to your low standards 3rd is failure.
 
Let’s be honest - Arsenal smashing Liverpool was not part of the script. It was not what you and others were expecting and your reaction clearly shows that you were not prepared for it.

Therefore, the tears over the way Arsenal celebrated because you needed to latch onto something to divert the attention and to avoid giving due credit to Arteta who completely owned Klopp.

Again, you can’t throw words like “joyous” and “uncontrollable” without defining what controllable looks like and what the parameters are.

You cannot criticize someone for doing something wrong without explaining what doing something right would look like.

You clearly cannot walk the talk and and never will because deep down you know that you and others are crying over the celebrations because you want to avoid giving Arteta credit.

Speaking of Pep, did you see his celebration in the Community Shield when Cole Palmer sent City 1-0 up vs Arsenal?

Would you categorize that celebration as controllable and an illustration of another day at the office?

Or do you remember Klopp breaking his glasses because of wild celebrations when his team beat Norwich to stay in hunt for a top 4 finish? Or do you remember him running along the touch line back in the day as Liverpool moved from 6th to 5th in the table?

When Pep, Klopp and others celebrate it is passion but when Arteta does, it is reflective of his weak mentality. Do you really think you can others can get away with this shameless hypocrisy on my watch? Never.

Too bad no one TV has been able to own the likes of Neville, Carragher, Keane etc. and silenced them on this celebration nonsense the way I have owned you and others in this thread.

Jeez. Flip flopping is a speciality I guess
 
Jeez. Flip flopping is a speciality I guess
100% he's a flip flop merchant. You will find he will come up with new excuses at end of season.

He's not even had the balls to make a prediction on where Arsenal will finish this season as he's scared.

He cowardly said top 2 finish. Just to cover himself
 
100% he's a flip flop merchant. You will find he will come up with new excuses at end of season.

He's not even had the balls to make a prediction on where Arsenal will finish this season as he's scared.

He cowardly said top 2 finish. Just to cover himself
They’ll finish 2nd.

If they’d kept Xhaka and Partey was still fit, Arsenal I think would have won this year. Maybe even keeping Xhaka alone was enough. Arsenal were a team on the up and young. The team last year was good enough to win it just bottled it. The new midfield arguably is better defensively perhaps especially with Rice but going forward and creating chances is worse even though Odegaard is very good.

Havertz was mainly bought on potential, and he hasn’t really fulfilled it, though he’s better than he was at Chelsea. Could have gone for Maddison but I suspect Arteta wanted someone a bit better defensively too. It’s difficult to strike that balance being more defensive or attacking. Generally I think the team has improved defensively but regressed slightly attacking.

Arteta is still in a title race it’s close. All you can ask is to be in a title race consistently and eventually you’ll get one just like Liverpool. Man City are too established to not start off as favourites every season. When Arsenal stops doing this, then it’s time to look at Arteta‘s position. Otherwise not worth sacking him, he’s built this team and style of football (which they actually have no over last two seasons). A change of coach immediately will probably lead to a rebuild and starting the whole process again. Managers don’t tend to come in and get the current set of players to win, they have their own style and want their own players.
 
They’ll finish 2nd.

If they’d kept Xhaka and Partey was still fit, Arsenal I think would have won this year. Maybe even keeping Xhaka alone was enough. Arsenal were a team on the up and young. The team last year was good enough to win it just bottled it. The new midfield arguably is better defensively perhaps especially with Rice but going forward and creating chances is worse even though Odegaard is very good.

Havertz was mainly bought on potential, and he hasn’t really fulfilled it, though he’s better than he was at Chelsea. Could have gone for Maddison but I suspect Arteta wanted someone a bit better defensively too. It’s difficult to strike that balance being more defensive or attacking. Generally I think the team has improved defensively but regressed slightly attacking.

Arteta is still in a title race it’s close. All you can ask is to be in a title race consistently and eventually you’ll get one just like Liverpool. Man City are too established to not start off as favourites every season. When Arsenal stops doing this, then it’s time to look at Arteta‘s position. Otherwise not worth sacking him, he’s built this team and style of football (which they actually have no over last two seasons). A change of coach immediately will probably lead to a rebuild and starting the whole process again. Managers don’t tend to come in and get the current set of players to win, they have their own style and want their own players.
Well balanced post some interesting points.

Finishing 2nd? Maybe, but they won't win the league. The team nor manager have shown they can handle end of season pressure. That's a mentality problem and also short comings on the manager.

Rice was a needed signing as the midfield needed an upgrade. Partey will never stay fit and xhaka 1 good season, there was no gaureentee he would replicate that. Also Arsenal issue last season was the poorly constructed depth by Arteta and edu, not the 1st 11 but the dip in quality when team had to be rotate. There are still huge gaps.

100% the team bottled it last season and 2 seasons before in top 4 race, because the manager can't handle end of season pressure.

Havertz wasn't signed on potential, the guys been in PL 3 seasons and has been trash, his performances have been not much better at Arsenal. This was just Arteta ego thinking he could polish a turd into a diamond.

Rice has massively improved the defensive base, saliba and Gabriel look good like they did last season. Issue arises if either gets injured or suspended for a few games the backs up ain't great. Just remember when your in a title race there are fine margins and Arsenal when they tend to drop points do it in clusters 2 or 3 games in a row. You do that in a title race vs experienced title challengers you are done.

If your team keeps falling short, you don't have to rip up the entire team etc. You bring in a manager who you believe can take club over the line.

Mourinho did that after taking over from Raneri, after Chelsea kept falling short before that.

Also If Arsenal got a new manager and started a full rebuild that's just shows how poorly club is run. You don't build a "project" around a manager. The club should lay foundations so that there is always a sucession plan as anything can happen in football and you should have people in mind who can seemingly fit in if required. If Arsenal look to get a manager not ideally suited to way the club is going that's bad decision.

Brighton are a prime example at a lower scale. Where you put scouting, recruitment, style of play into a project plan. Then you identify what coaches can fit into that philosophy.

Yes a new manager may change a few players. But Arsenal don't need a new rebuild and another 5 years of waste.
 
Quite a feat
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Bukayo Saka reaches half-century for Arsenal with more goals and assists than Cristiano Ronaldo in first 210 games

Bukayo Saka scored his 50th and 51st goals for Arsenal in their win over West Ham; academy product's record, at only 22, places him among the elite

We take a look at Bukayo Saka's greatest Premier League goals as the Arsenal forward scored his 50th club goal against West Ham on Sunday at the age of just 22.

With his first-half penalty and well-taken second in Sunday's 6-0 win over West Ham, Bukayo Saka became the youngest Arsenal player in the Premier League era to hit the 50-goal mark.

The milestone was reached with another outstanding display from the academy graduate. Not that there was much self-congratulation afterwards. "I'm not sure I can be happy today," he told Sky Sports. "I missed some chances I could have scored."

His comments offered a glimpse into the mentality driving his continued progress at Arsenal. Mikel Arteta, meanwhile, was eager to emphasise the magnitude of what he is achieving at 22.

"At his age, the position and consistency normally don't go in the same line," said the Arsenal manager in his press conference. "He is proving everybody wrong, that he can do it."

Source : Sky News
 

Arsenal must be ‘in the conversation’ for Kylian Mbappé, says Mikel Arteta​


Mikel Arteta says Arsenal should be “in the conversation” for the signature of Kylian Mbappé after the striker’s summer departure from Paris Saint-Germain was confirmed, even though Real Madrid remain favourites to complete a deal.

Mbappé’s contract expires in June and he has informed PSG that he will leave at the end of the season, either by running down his deal or extending it and earning his employers a transfer fee. Real are long-term suitors but an agreement is yet to be struck with the player and his representatives, theoretically leaving the door open for an English club to step in.

“When there is a player of that calibre we always have to be in the conversation,” Arteta said, before referring to Real’s interest. “But … it looks to be in a different way.”

Asked whether that meant Arsenal were involved in any discussions about Mbappé he replied: “I am not! Maybe Edu [the sporting director] and the owners are, but I am not in those conversations until the last stage.”

Arteta did little to play down the idea he would jump at any opportunity to sign Mbappé, reiterating that players of his stature should always be mentioned in connection with an upwardly mobile Arsenal. “Why not?” he said. “If we want to be the best team, we are going to need the best talent and the best players, that is for sure.

“Everybody wants to play for Arsenal. The players we have held discussions with, they always have that smile on their face the moment you open the door and start to have that discussion. That is because of our history and everything we have done in the past as well.”

Arsenal will have to make do with their existing squad, which has won four consecutive games at an aggregate of 16 goals to two, when they face Burnley at Turf Moor on Saturday. Arteta suggested that some of Gabriel Jesus, Emile Smith Rowe, Oleksandr Zinchenko, Takehiro Tomiyasu and Fabio Vieira may be ready to return from injuries; he also said Thomas Partey, out with a thigh problem since October, was “progressing really well” and could be back within a fortnight.

Arteta had praise for his good friend and former Manchester City colleague Vincent Kompany, saying 19th-placed Burnley had been “really unlucky” at points in the season. He spoke of his own side’s appetite to see their title campaign through to a successful conclusion. Arsenal are third, two points shy of the leaders, Liverpool, and believe they have grown stronger since tailing off in 2022-23.

“It’s the most important part of the season,” Arteta said. “We know that every fixture will play a significant part in what we want to achieve. We have learned a lot of things from last season..”

Arteta expressed concern for Roy Hodgson, the Crystal Palace manager, who was taken to hospital on Thursday after falling ill. “Hopefully he is feeling much better,” he said. “If that’s the case, and knowing Roy, I think he will be in tomorrow because he loves it so much. But we all got really worried with the situation and hopefully he is fine.”

Source: The Guardian

 
Arteta will never stop keeping us fans in the darkness when it comes to transfer to the club.
 
Burnley away next. Should be a win barring a disaster. This is not the same turf moor it was when we last visited when they would just kick lumps out of us and we'd be happy to get out with a scrappy win.

They play a bit more so should work for us.

Get a comfy win and go home. Man City play 3 times before we play next and quite easy games to. They'll have a buffer before our next PL game.
 
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Burnley away next. Should be a win barring a disaster. This is not the same turf moor it was when we last visited when they would just kick lumps out of us and we'd be happy to get out with a scrappy win.

They play a bit more so should work for us.

Get a comfy win and go home. Man City play 3 times before we play next and quite easy games to. They'll have a buffer before our next PL game.
Should be aiming to win the next 5 games.

Burnley, time-wasting united, Sheffield utd, Brentford and Chelsea.

The final 9 games are very tricky so points on board needed
 
Should be aiming to win the next 5 games.

Burnley, time-wasting united, Sheffield utd, Brentford and Chelsea.

The final 9 games are very tricky so points on board needed
Todays game is a Banana Skin for us...

Burnley are just not Premier League material we all know that but in years gone by it's games like these where we have dropped points...

A must win, preferably by a good margin
 
Todays game is a Banana Skin for us...

Burnley are just not Premier League material we all know that but in years gone by it's games like these where we have dropped points...

A must win, preferably by a good margin
Games like this are where if you want to win league titles you go and win.

Professional performance and get the job done.

Going into last 14 games it's bout winning games, performance are a 2ndary concern. Yes you have to be consistent but its about doing what you have to and saying to other teams around you it's over to you.

See who cracks 1st.
 
Games like this are where if you want to win league titles you go and win.

Professional performance and get the job done.

Going into last 14 games it's bout winning games, performance are a 2ndary concern. Yes you have to be consistent but its about doing what you have to and saying to other teams around you it's over to you.

See who cracks 1st.

Yes and this is precisely why we have failed to win the league in 20 year...
Losing or drawing gamed when expected to win.

It's games like these that will show us the mentality of the team and how Arteta is doing as a coach.
 
Yes and this is precisely why we have failed to win the league in 20 year...
Losing or drawing gamed when expected to win.

It's games like these that will show us the mentality of the team and how Arteta is doing as a coach.
Liverpool and City in title races end of march onwards usually tend to not drop points in consecutive games. Unfortunate that's Arsenal's achillies heel, until that changes it will be another season without title.

Last season it seemed the team was looking to far ahead I.e the man city fixtures, on both occasions dropped loads of points before both games.

So the approach has to be to treat every game now like a one off cup final.
 
Stop comparing Saka and Ronaldo, let Saka reach Mason Greenwood levels first.

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Team news - both sides unchanged
Burnley v Arsenal (15:00 GMT)

Burnley boss Vincent Kompany sticks with the side who lost against Liverpool last weekend.

Charlie Taylor is back on the bench for the Clarets after recovering from a shoulder injury.

Burnley XI: Trafford, Delcroix, Esteve, O'Shea, Assignon, Odobert, Brownhill, Berge, Ramsey.

Subs: Muric, Taylor, Cork, Gudmundsson, Rodríguez, Benson, Vitinho, Cullen, Bruun Larsen.

Mikel Arteta also does not make any changes to the Arsenal side who beat West Ham last weekend.

Emile Smith Rowe missed the win at West Ham and returns to the bench.

Arsenal XI: Raya, Kiwior, Gabriel, Saliba, white, Havertz, Rice, Odegaard, Martinelli, Trossard, Saka.

Subs:Ramsdale, Smith Rowe, Nketiah, Soares, Jorginho, Nelson, Elneny, Bandeira, Lannin-Sweet.
 
Early goal for Arsenal. Good start after Liverpool won earlier
 
Saka with a penalty, 2-0

Puts pressure on city later. Liverpool have won, Arsenal looking like 3 points here
 
Liverpool - Luton (H), forrest (A) Man city (H) Everton (A)

Man city - Chelsea (A), Brentford (H) Bournemouth (A) Man utd (H) Liverpool (A)

Arsenal - Newcastle (H) Sheff utd (A) Brentford (H), Chelsea (H)

Another game scratched off for Arsenal, time-wasting United next, with Liverpool and City having winnable games. Got to keep matching results.
 
Todays game is a Banana Skin for us...

Burnley are just not Premier League material we all know that but in years gone by it's games like these where we have dropped points...

A must win, preferably by a good margin
A good win, good margin. When we play sheff utd away, it should be a similar looking cricket score. As I mentioned these sort of teams should be swatted a side.
 
Another excellent away win.

Expected a win but we've brilliant since the turn of the year. Lots of goals resulting in comfortable wins. 5 wins in a row is a credit to Arteta and the players.

Odegaard has been magnificent and I hope he gets some credit as much as he is criticised and called names.

All games barring Liverpool we were expected to win but the domination has been good to watch.

I'll say what I said last week. Once we get majority of our absentees back then hopefully they can make key contributions later on. We will need them.

Kiwior has been good since he came in to the team to and deserves a mention.

Porto next. Will be a raucous intimidating atmosphere. An advantage going into the 2nd leg is key.

Thought Havertz took his goal well to.
 
Another emphatic win. Good to see Arsenal go 3 up just after the restart.

It was good to see the likes of Rice and Saka come off around the hour mark, so kudos to Arteta for taking them off with the away trip to Porto in mind.

Saka is back to his best. Odegaard had another good game.

Trossard as a false 9 is proving yet again why he’s the best CF option in this current Arsenal side. He’s by the far the most composed finisher in the team.

Kiwior needs to start ahead of Zinchenko. Something I wish Arteta had done for the Anfield game.

Tougher tests next week against Porto and Newcastle but with the way the team is playing, they are more than capable of winning both.

To top it all off, great to see City lose points and Spurs being Spurs.
 
Another emphatic win. Good to see Arsenal go 3 up just after the restart.

It was good to see the likes of Rice and Saka come off around the hour mark, so kudos to Arteta for taking them off with the away trip to Porto in mind.

Saka is back to his best. Odegaard had another good game.

Trossard as a false 9 is proving yet again why he’s the best CF option in this current Arsenal side. He’s by the far the most composed finisher in the team.

Kiwior needs to start ahead of Zinchenko. Something I wish Arteta had done for the Anfield game.

Tougher tests next week against Porto and Newcastle but with the way the team is playing, they are more than capable of winning both.

To top it all off, great to see City lose points and Spurs being Spurs.
I'm glad Trossard scored. He missed a few before he buried it.

Saka seems to be making the runs inside more which enables white to Overlap and in turn create space for Odegard.

Kiwior looks like a player who needs a run of games to show what he can do. He has been playing well. Will be interesting who starts LB when Tomiyasu is fit.
Timber also played LB in pre season and the game he got injured in.

In my opinion when all fit Zinchenko is way down the pecking order. Last few games have put to bed the idea that he is key to our buildup play. We've been banging goals left right and center without him and his tears.
 
Well it's clear. We live rent free in your silly little mind.

It’s quite sad for someone to be a self pro-claimed Arsenal fan and use these occasions to exhibit their weird point scoring obsessions, despite the fact that their knowledge of the game was there for everyone to see last season.

We were told “the title is in the bag” and we all saw know how that turned out. But even after being left with egg on his face and all the times he’s been exposed for his appetite for mediocrity (Zinchenko and Havertz), he still has no shame.
 
We saw good fluidity this time last season when trossard came in and played a false 9. Then Jesus came back in and did nothing, let's see if lessons are learnt and players have to earn way back into side. Every fixture now will be either applying pressure to City or Liverpool or matching results if they win. The pressure will keep being cranked up. This weekend it was city who cracked.

We should be aiming to win the next 4 games. With 3 of those being at home. At same time Liverpool play City soon.
 
I'm glad Trossard scored. He missed a few before he buried it.

Saka seems to be making the runs inside more which enables white to Overlap and in turn create space for Odegard.

Kiwior looks like a player who needs a run of games to show what he can do. He has been playing well. Will be interesting who starts LB when Tomiyasu is fit.
Timber also played LB in pre season and the game he got injured in.

In my opinion when all fit Zinchenko is way down the pecking order. Last few games have put to bed the idea that he is key to our buildup play. We've been banging goals left right and center without him and his tears.
Zinchenko when everyone is fit should be 1st choice back up for gunnersaurus as team mascot, if he gets injured.
 
I'm glad Trossard scored. He missed a few before he buried it.

True I noticed this as well but out of Jesus, Nketiah and him, it’s obvious that he’s the most superior finisher.

The problem we have with our all forwards is none of them are good at scoring headers. Jesus, Saka, Martinelli and Trossard all abysmasl in this regard.

Nketiah is slightly better than them when it comes to his heading accuracy but he fails miserably in other aspects of his game, so he’s not worth keeping in the side in my opinion.

Saka seems to be making the runs inside more which enables white to Overlap and in turn create space for Odegard.

The winter break has done them both good, particularly Saka.

Kiwior looks like a player who needs a run of games to show what he can do. He has been playing well. Will be interesting who starts LB when Tomiyasu is fit.
Timber also played LB in pre season and the game he got injured in.

In my opinion when all fit Zinchenko is way down the pecking order. Last few games have put to bed the idea that he is key to our buildup play. We've been banging goals left right and center without him and his tears.

Spot on. Zinchenko has been exposed as a fraud. This notion of his importance to our build up play has been debunked.

If anything he slows the play down because he takes an age to make his mind up when he’s got the ball.

I’ve never rated him one bit at Arsenal. He’s the worst defensive LB I’ve ever seen at the club, ever since I start supporting them in 2000.

I would even take Kieran Gibbbs over Zinchenko if they were both of the team during the same period.
Timber, Tomiyasu and Kiwior are all superior to Zinchenko. For this reason, the Ukrainian needs to be sold.
 
Aj, Topspin

Thing with Jesus though is that he's got a superb record in the Champions League...

If he's fit, does he start against Porto?
 
Another emphatic win. Good to see Arsenal go 3 up just after the restart.

It was good to see the likes of Rice and Saka come off around the hour mark, so kudos to Arteta for taking them off with the away trip to Porto in mind.

Saka is back to his best. Odegaard had another good game.

Trossard as a false 9 is proving yet again why he’s the best CF option in this current Arsenal side. He’s by the far the most composed finisher in the team.

Kiwior needs to start ahead of Zinchenko. Something I wish Arteta had done for the Anfield game.

Tougher tests next week against Porto and Newcastle but with the way the team is playing, they are more than capable of winning both.

To top it all off, great to see City lose points and Spurs being Spurs.

The only thing that annoyed me about today’s win was seeing ESR come on in the 84th minute.

A clear and obvious tactic from Arteta to protect one of his golden boys, Havertz.

I feel sorry for ESR. Unfortunately, I think that’s a clear hint from his manager than he’s not gonna be part of his plans after this season.
 
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