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All in for the bants, the inevitable meltdown and useless predictions. It's done. @Mamoon
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way Newcastle play. It is effective and impressive. Besides, Arsenal fans are not in a position to criticize others - Arsenal under Arteta is one of the nastiest and dirtiest teams in the league and I love it.Brother the aim of football is to get a result that is beneficial to your team, sometimes that is to win, sometimes that is to draw and sometimes it is to simply avoid a heavy defeat
It is arrogance to think people should play football in a certain way and objectively speaking there is no right or wrong way to play football
Now, subjectively I prefer football to be played in a certain way, prime Barca being my favourite but I loved the football Wenger brought to this country, it was a joy to watch and very different to the direct football we saw before
However, not all teams are equal and if you think all teams will come out and play fast and not look to slow the game down to suit themselves then you live in a utopian world
I've seen every single team waste time, some will just do it more than others depending on each teams circumstances. For me criticism of that shouldn't get levelled at the team but rather the referee
Klopp has no clue how to beat Arteta in the league ever since Arteta assembled a squad capable of fighting for the title.All in for the bants, the inevitable meltdown and bonkers predictions. It's done. @Mamoon
Arsenal under Arteta is one of the nastiest and dirtiest teams in the league and I love it.
We have baby soft players like Zinchenko and are led by Odegaard.
Its another one of his wild delusion fantasies.
Arsenal are as timid and mentally fragile as they come.
Look at the childish celebrations after the game by the captain, anyone would think we had won the league yesterday. We saw same over celebrating last season as well.
On top of that the same loser thinks Arsenal are in a position where they can pick and choose what competitions to take seriously.
Delusion at its finest.
Yesterday was a good victory, but the club is to fascinated with doing things for the camera and social mediaSpot on. When I look at this team, the likes of Raya, Zinchenko and Odegaard, who are all Arteta’s golden boys, stick out like a sore thumb. They’re all mentally fragile and timid as you say and that’s evident by the fact that Arsenal have bottled top 4 and the title in the last two seasons.
Mamoon’s assessment of this team is more aligned to the invincibles side. It’s delusional for him to think that this current Arsenal team is menacing let alone worthy of challenging for the title on a consistent basis, as it still needs a major overhaul and rebuild with another 4-5 players.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the way Newcastle play. It is effective and impressive. Besides, Arsenal fans are not in a position to criticize others - Arsenal under Arteta is one of the nastiest and dirtiest teams in the league and I love it.
I was sick of watching soft Arsenal teams in the second half of Wenger’s tenure.
so now havertz garbage finishing isn't an issue because of rest of team not been clinical. Same donkey who missed chances galore in FA Cup game to .Havertz played well yesterday. Yes he missed the chance but bad finishing is the hallmark of this team, not fair to single him out.
He was a nuisance for VVD and Konate and roughened them up. Only people who know nothing about football thought he had a poor game.
February
10: West Ham (a)
17: Burnley (a)
24: Newcastle (h)
March
2: Sheffield United (a)
9: Brentford (h)
16: Chelsea (h)
Arsenal should be aiming for 5 wins and a draw Minimum from next 6 PL games
Only West ham (A) is tricky if this team wants to to show real quality. Our record against West ham has generally been good, up until last 3 fixtures. We are capable of winning at West ham, but will have to play well. The other 5 games we should be swatting those teams aside.All winnable games and games you would expect a team who wants to be taken seriously for the title to win. Having said that, winning all will mean we win 9 games in row which I don't think we are capable of.
Liverpool and City are capable and if we want to be at their table then we must do this to.
Which game would you say would be a draw? I would expect us to win our Home games. United and Burnley are poor teams. West Ham should be difficult as they have dealt with us last 2 meetings. But they have been so poor since they beat us at the Emirates and I expect a win.
Also bear in mind that the Chelsea game will probably be moved if they beat Leeds in the FA Cup. So the following game would be City. We know how that normally ends lol.
Get behind the team and enjoy the good performances and don't be drawn in by trolls. That way you'll enjoy life more and this thread will be far more enjoyable (come win or lose)...Probably Arsenal's best 45 mins of season. I don't hide like certain cowards on here.
I'm happy with performance and for me this was the toughest out of the next 6 games, I said Arsensl would won 5 out next 6 games. Full momentum needs to be taken into city away game at end of marchGet behind the team and enjoy the good performances and don't be drawn in by trolls. That way you'll enjoy life more and this thread will be far more enjoyable (come win or lose)...
No doubt you're thinking about how you'll reply to a certain poster... but please don't
Get behind the team and enjoy the good performances and don't be drawn in by trolls. That way you'll enjoy life more and this thread will be far more enjoyable (come win or lose)...
No doubt you're thinking about how you'll reply to a certain poster... but please don't
“Odegaard is a ghost away from home and Arsenal should have signed Maddison instead”That was some performance. Certainly the most dominant I’ve seen from Arsenal under Arteta.
Stand out performers were Saka and Rice. The former deserved his MOTM.
This was the best performance from Rice in the last third of the pitch, where he scored a beauty and produced 2 x assists to prove that he’s more than just a world class DM.
Arsenal have 5 tough away games left:
If Arsenal can avoid defeat against City and win the rest of these they will have a great chance of winning the league.
- City
- Man U
- Spurs
- Brighton
- Wolves
As for the remaining home games, they’re not so bad. Arsenal need to make sure they win all these. Toughest home games will be against Villa Newcastle and Chelsea.
“Aston Villa is in a title race”Not heard much from the Unai Emery fan club on this thread recently. It's the Unai way. Unless it's the Europa league he shows promise tries to get to clever and goes full Unai
This wasn't a dig at any poster. Just a mere question as there was a lot of Unai bigging up to bash Arteta with. About win % since Unai came in. How he had accumulated the most points apart from by Pep.
3 wins in 10 across all comps for Unai. Those were against Burnley sheff United and Boro...This wasn't a dig at any poster. Just a mere question as there was a lot of Unai bigging up to bash Arteta with. About win % since Unai came in. How he had accumulated the most points apart from by Pep.
I'd just like people to keep the same energy both ways. Not only when it's a stick to beat Arteta with.
Emery is not cut for the big leagues. He is made for a club that would celebrate finishing 6th/7th and never harbor the ambitions of winning the league.3 wins in 10 across all comps for Unai. Those were against Burnley sheff United and Boro...
All those 5 away games are within Arsenal's last 9 fixtures, which i said would be make or break (I said this as start of season).That was some performance. Certainly the most dominant I’ve seen from Arsenal under Arteta.
Stand out performers were Saka and Rice. The former deserved his MOTM.
This was the best performance from Rice in the last third of the pitch, where he scored a beauty and produced 2 x assists to prove that he’s more than just a world class DM.
Arsenal have 5 tough away games left:
If Arsenal can avoid defeat against City and win the rest of these they will have a great chance of winning the league.
- City
- Man U
- Spurs
- Brighton
- Wolves
As for the remaining home games, they’re not so bad. Arsenal need to make sure they win all these. Toughest home games will be against Villa Newcastle and Chelsea.
Unai Emery has Villa 5th in his 1st full season currently, Arteta was languishing in 8th in his 1st full season. What point you making?Not heard much from the Unai Emery fan club on this thread recently. It's the Unai way. Unless it's the Europa league he shows promise tries to get to clever and goes full Unai
We will see where the ghost is when he dissapears at pressure end of season. The fact he dissapeard at the eithad last season when Arsenal bottled the league, only more cowardly dissaperance was you suddenly running off with tears running down your face at end of last season.“Odegaard is a ghost away from home and Arsenal should have signed Maddison instead”
Odegaard today:
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You are the one who always looks at other clubs when it suits your agenda.Unai Emery has Villa 5th in his 1st full season currently, Arteta was languishing in 8th in his 1st full season. What point you making?
The fact Arsensl are heading for a 4th trophyless season in row and fans won't to look at other clubs.
I ask again, and I shall continueth to asketh until thee stand ho bottling this questioneth.So the same Arsenal fans who claimed West Ham is not an ambitious team, are celebrating OTT style with a win over West Ham!
Just remember the leader of Arsenal bhangra supports club is getting excited over being In 3rd place, which according to him is failure. Yeah some Arsenal fans continue get over excited over zero achievementsSo the same Arsenal fans who claimed West Ham is not an ambitious team, are celebrating OTT style with a win over West Ham!
I ask again, and I shall continueth to asketh until thee stand ho bottling this questioneth.
Please define the parameters of acceptable celebrations and OTT celebrations.
What is the threshold of acceptable celebrations? If you are allowed to run on the touch line, how far can you go before it becomes unacceptable?
If you are doing fist bumps, how many can you do before it becomes unacceptable?
If taking a picture of the club photographer with his camera OTT, under what circumstances can you celebrate like this for it to not be OTT?
In fact, why don’t you record a video doing celebrations so that we can clearly understand how to celebrate in different situations to ensure that they are not OTT.
As a subject matter expert in celebrations, simply pointing out OTT celebrations will not help. You need to enlighten us and Arsenal as a football club on how to celebrate and we promise we will do our best to comply with the rules that you establish.
Let’s be honest - Arsenal smashing Liverpool was not part of the script. It was not what you and others were expecting and your reaction clearly shows that you were not prepared for it.There is no parameters or thresholds.
However. There is a mentality issue between failure and success.
Pep as a serial winner would see this as as another day in the office.
Arteta , with his lack of success sees this as success, hence joyous and uncontrollable, even though there's still a third of the season to be played.
only person owned is the who had egg and tomatoes over his face and ran off like a coward. So much so you didn't even have the balls to predict an actual singular finishing position for Arsenal this season. Why because your scared you will get humilated again. So for all the chest beating, your actions are hilarious.Let’s be honest - Arsenal smashing Liverpool was not part of the script. It was not what you and others were expecting and your reaction clearly shows that you were not prepared for it.
Therefore, the tears over the way Arsenal celebrated because you needed to latch onto something to divert the attention and to avoid giving due credit to Arteta who completely owned Klopp.
Again, you can’t throw words like “joyous” and “uncontrollable” without defining what controllable looks like and what the parameters are.
You cannot criticize someone for doing something wrong without explaining what doing something right would look like.
You clearly cannot walk the talk and and never will because deep down you know that you and others are crying over the celebrations because you want to avoid giving Arteta credit.
Speaking of Pep, did you see his celebration in the Community Shield when Cole Palmer sent City 1-0 up vs Arsenal?
Would you categorize that celebration as controllable and an illustration of another day at the office?
Or do you remember Klopp breaking his glasses because of wild celebrations when his team beat Norwich to stay in hunt for a top 4 finish? Or do you remember him running along the touch line back in the day as Liverpool moved from 6th to 5th in the table?
When Pep, Klopp and others celebrate it is passion but when Arteta does, it is reflective of his weak mentality. Do you really think you can others can get away with this shameless hypocrisy on my watch? Never.
Too bad no one TV has been able to own the likes of Neville, Carragher, Keane etc. and silenced them on this celebration nonsense the way I have owned you and others in this thread.
Let’s be honest - Arsenal smashing Liverpool was not part of the script. It was not what you and others were expecting and your reaction clearly shows that you were not prepared for it.
Therefore, the tears over the way Arsenal celebrated because you needed to latch onto something to divert the attention and to avoid giving due credit to Arteta who completely owned Klopp.
Again, you can’t throw words like “joyous” and “uncontrollable” without defining what controllable looks like and what the parameters are.
You cannot criticize someone for doing something wrong without explaining what doing something right would look like.
You clearly cannot walk the talk and and never will because deep down you know that you and others are crying over the celebrations because you want to avoid giving Arteta credit.
Speaking of Pep, did you see his celebration in the Community Shield when Cole Palmer sent City 1-0 up vs Arsenal?
Would you categorize that celebration as controllable and an illustration of another day at the office?
Or do you remember Klopp breaking his glasses because of wild celebrations when his team beat Norwich to stay in hunt for a top 4 finish? Or do you remember him running along the touch line back in the day as Liverpool moved from 6th to 5th in the table?
When Pep, Klopp and others celebrate it is passion but when Arteta does, it is reflective of his weak mentality. Do you really think you can others can get away with this shameless hypocrisy on my watch? Never.
Too bad no one TV has been able to own the likes of Neville, Carragher, Keane etc. and silenced them on this celebration nonsense the way I have owned you and others in this thread.
100% he's a flip flop merchant. You will find he will come up with new excuses at end of season.Jeez. Flip flopping is a speciality I guess
@shaz619
You had a lot to say about Arsenal’s celebration vs Liverpool and how it showed weak mentality.
Do you think Douglas Luiz’s celebration after the equalizer and before getting owned by United was reflective of Villa’s weak mentality and small ambitions?
They’ll finish 2nd.100% he's a flip flop merchant. You will find he will come up with new excuses at end of season.
He's not even had the balls to make a prediction on where Arsenal will finish this season as he's scared.
He cowardly said top 2 finish. Just to cover himself
Well balanced post some interesting points.They’ll finish 2nd.
If they’d kept Xhaka and Partey was still fit, Arsenal I think would have won this year. Maybe even keeping Xhaka alone was enough. Arsenal were a team on the up and young. The team last year was good enough to win it just bottled it. The new midfield arguably is better defensively perhaps especially with Rice but going forward and creating chances is worse even though Odegaard is very good.
Havertz was mainly bought on potential, and he hasn’t really fulfilled it, though he’s better than he was at Chelsea. Could have gone for Maddison but I suspect Arteta wanted someone a bit better defensively too. It’s difficult to strike that balance being more defensive or attacking. Generally I think the team has improved defensively but regressed slightly attacking.
Arteta is still in a title race it’s close. All you can ask is to be in a title race consistently and eventually you’ll get one just like Liverpool. Man City are too established to not start off as favourites every season. When Arsenal stops doing this, then it’s time to look at Arteta‘s position. Otherwise not worth sacking him, he’s built this team and style of football (which they actually have no over last two seasons). A change of coach immediately will probably lead to a rebuild and starting the whole process again. Managers don’t tend to come in and get the current set of players to win, they have their own style and want their own players.
Should be aiming to win the next 5 games.Burnley away next. Should be a win barring a disaster. This is not the same turf moor it was when we last visited when they would just kick lumps out of us and we'd be happy to get out with a scrappy win.
They play a bit more so should work for us.
Get a comfy win and go home. Man City play 3 times before we play next and quite easy games to. They'll have a buffer before our next PL game.
Todays game is a Banana Skin for us...Should be aiming to win the next 5 games.
Burnley, time-wasting united, Sheffield utd, Brentford and Chelsea.
The final 9 games are very tricky so points on board needed
Games like this are where if you want to win league titles you go and win.Todays game is a Banana Skin for us...
Burnley are just not Premier League material we all know that but in years gone by it's games like these where we have dropped points...
A must win, preferably by a good margin
Games like this are where if you want to win league titles you go and win.
Professional performance and get the job done.
Going into last 14 games it's bout winning games, performance are a 2ndary concern. Yes you have to be consistent but its about doing what you have to and saying to other teams around you it's over to you.
See who cracks 1st.
Liverpool and City in title races end of march onwards usually tend to not drop points in consecutive games. Unfortunate that's Arsenal's achillies heel, until that changes it will be another season without title.Yes and this is precisely why we have failed to win the league in 20 year...
Losing or drawing gamed when expected to win.
It's games like these that will show us the mentality of the team and how Arteta is doing as a coach.
A good win, good margin. When we play sheff utd away, it should be a similar looking cricket score. As I mentioned these sort of teams should be swatted a side.Todays game is a Banana Skin for us...
Burnley are just not Premier League material we all know that but in years gone by it's games like these where we have dropped points...
A must win, preferably by a good margin
“Odegaard ghosts away games”
Salaam bro. How's things. This hasn't aged well has it.Arteta cannot even be compared to Thomas Frank let along Klopp!
I'm glad Trossard scored. He missed a few before he buried it.Another emphatic win. Good to see Arsenal go 3 up just after the restart.
It was good to see the likes of Rice and Saka come off around the hour mark, so kudos to Arteta for taking them off with the away trip to Porto in mind.
Saka is back to his best. Odegaard had another good game.
Trossard as a false 9 is proving yet again why he’s the best CF option in this current Arsenal side. He’s by the far the most composed finisher in the team.
Kiwior needs to start ahead of Zinchenko. Something I wish Arteta had done for the Anfield game.
Tougher tests next week against Porto and Newcastle but with the way the team is playing, they are more than capable of winning both.
To top it all off, great to see City lose points and Spurs being Spurs.
Well it's clear. We live rent free in your silly little mind.
Zinchenko when everyone is fit should be 1st choice back up for gunnersaurus as team mascot, if he gets injured.I'm glad Trossard scored. He missed a few before he buried it.
Saka seems to be making the runs inside more which enables white to Overlap and in turn create space for Odegard.
Kiwior looks like a player who needs a run of games to show what he can do. He has been playing well. Will be interesting who starts LB when Tomiyasu is fit.
Timber also played LB in pre season and the game he got injured in.
In my opinion when all fit Zinchenko is way down the pecking order. Last few games have put to bed the idea that he is key to our buildup play. We've been banging goals left right and center without him and his tears.
I'm glad Trossard scored. He missed a few before he buried it.
Saka seems to be making the runs inside more which enables white to Overlap and in turn create space for Odegard.
Kiwior looks like a player who needs a run of games to show what he can do. He has been playing well. Will be interesting who starts LB when Tomiyasu is fit.
Timber also played LB in pre season and the game he got injured in.
In my opinion when all fit Zinchenko is way down the pecking order. Last few games have put to bed the idea that he is key to our buildup play. We've been banging goals left right and center without him and his tears.
Another emphatic win. Good to see Arsenal go 3 up just after the restart.
It was good to see the likes of Rice and Saka come off around the hour mark, so kudos to Arteta for taking them off with the away trip to Porto in mind.
Saka is back to his best. Odegaard had another good game.
Trossard as a false 9 is proving yet again why he’s the best CF option in this current Arsenal side. He’s by the far the most composed finisher in the team.
Kiwior needs to start ahead of Zinchenko. Something I wish Arteta had done for the Anfield game.
Tougher tests next week against Porto and Newcastle but with the way the team is playing, they are more than capable of winning both.
To top it all off, great to see City lose points and Spurs being Spurs.