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I think there is a divide within Arsenal fans, half see Areta as done his best and cant take the team any further. After all he's done the treble....thrice coming 2nd.
Other believe he needs 2/3 players to win the league.
The Champions League is also tough, not as tough as the league but Arsenal have been given a favourable draw v PSV. Liverpool have PSG, even though finishing top of the group/league and imo Villa who drew Brugge also have a tougher match up.
Its time for Arsenal to take advantage of this fortune and get some fans smiling again esp @Mamoon , poor chap predicted its in the bag and 2 league titles about 3 years ago.
Emery has done a better job in the transfer window, Durran is a top player but fell out with Emery as he wanted to start more. Arsenal signed nobody even with injuries so if they win nothing, its of their own making.
PSV failed to follow the script and were far too open... KingKhan was indeed spot on with his assessment..You’re right again, Arsenal destroyed them, poor PSV, bet a championship side would have done betterArsenal still run the club like a business, I can’t see Arteta falling out with the owners anytime soon, but they have a golden chance in the CL. Being a big club is about having big mentality in these scenario’s so lets see if they can overcome that big asterisk against them in Euro competition, if Arteta can do it, then fair play; if not, there’s always next season
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Most of fan base are making excuses
VAR
Injuries
Red cards
Liverpool are lucky
Arteta making out that 2nd place currently is a miracle.
This fan base never has any accountability. It's either back tracking on claims with excuses.
Or in the case of on here it's
Gone into hiding completely
Hiding on the cricket forum
Liking posts in this thread, but hiding
These plastic part time fans know exactly who they are. They will be back in summer with same shameless Arteta twerking and once again come December will be making new excuses.
PSV failed to follow the script and were far too open... KingKhan was indeed spot on with his assessment..
He was due to get one right after the stick I give him for predictionsIf betting was halal @KingKhanWC would make us all wealthy, he called the Villa game as well.
He was due to get one right after the stick I give him for predictions... Talking of predictions.. Didn't you famously tell us you guys are come for our spot?
I hope you make it. I've openly said I like Emery and wish him well.I am the opposite of what KingKhan is in that regardMathematically the top 4 is still on
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If betting was halal @KingKhanWC would make us all wealthy, he called the Villa game as well.
@KingKhanWC makes terrible predictions in general.If betting was halal @KingKhanWC would make us all wealthy, he called the Villa game as well.
@KingKhanWC makes terrible predictions in general.
Great performance from the team. It's been a while.
Very lucky not to concede early but after that we were very clinical.
Have to say MLS was a lucky boy eventhough I thought the first yellow was a bit soft.
I thought the team showed energy and quality as well. Everyone played their part.
Having said that, eventhough he scored I thought odegaard was very average today. He really needs to show up before Saka comes back otherwise questions will be further raised. Great assist tbh but we need more of these moments when we are struggling to score not 6-1 up.
Anyway fair to say job should be done now and off to Madrid.
Raheem sterling being chased down by a pensioner in Perisic summed him up in an Arsenal shirt
One game a week Declan Rice is a monster. Energy levels are something else.
Realistically nah. We don't have the firepower up front. The draw is tough as well.Champions league contenders now?
Next round is one of the Madrid sides.Champions league contenders now?
PSV made same mistake as sporting Lisbon, west ham (A), Brentford (A), Palace (A) etc.. if your going to go toe to toe with Arsenal you will get taken apart.PSV failed to follow the script and were far too open... KingKhan was indeed spot on with his assessment..
Next round is one of the Madrid sides.
People are assuming at moment it will be Real, but they have a tough 2nd leg to play yet at Athletico.
We will see if Arsenal have improved in Europe or not as they will come up against teams just as good defensively and with more fire power. Also up against world class tactical managers.
Athletico vs Arsenal would be the dark arts Derby, wouldn't be a great spectical to watch.
Real Madrid do give up chances against opposition and teams have to be clinical against them, as they have big game players who step up and punish you if you don't.
Arsenal should have Martinelli back by then so atleast a focal point in attack.
Will see Arsenal true level next round when they play The top Tier CL proven sides.
Took a while for the comments to be released but explains why Liverpool didn't appeal, also that it wasn't just for an aggressive handshakeIf it's incorrect then another overturned from the so called best referee....
Offensive language is another inconsistency. Just look at the likes of Palmer, Grealish who consistently use foul language as do most players to be fair. But Oliver had to make it about him
So its not only Arsenal who blame refs then. Liverpool manager rolled out the excuses after 1 draw saying it will be the refs fault if they dont win the league. WOWTook a while for the comments to be released but explains why Liverpool didn't appeal, also that it wasn't just for an aggressive handshake
(Don't want to go into a boring conversation about referees, just saw this on twitter and felt it was relevant to the discussion we had at the time)
Which players of Atletico would you class as world class? Apart from their manager what makes you call them World Class? What have they done that they are a World class team? They are a good side.Real or Athletico are on a totally different level , both are world class teams, arsenal will be rank outsiders against either. Anything can happen in football but it will a massive shock arsenal.even with it's full strength team to get past them over two legs.
I didnt see the game but PSv have a poor defensive record , always leaking goals and in poor form in their league. Arsenal were always going to score a few but 7 means well played.
With a huge lead , now Arteta can rest all his players in the 2nd leg and concentrate on the league![]()
Which players of Atletico would you class as world class? Apart from their manager what makes you call them World Class? What have they done that they are a World class team? They are a good side.
Full strength Arsenal is not a massive shock if they beat either - that is just you trying to antagonise Arsenal fans.
Really poor quality post. Do better
That's not what I asked.Watch the match v real Madrid, AM are a very strong side. No need to get upset, it's my opinion. I can't see arsenal beating either over two legs but lets wait and see
That's not what I asked.
I will try again,
IN YOUR OPINION - what is world class about Atletico. Which players and also what makes them world class.
I never said Arsenal would beat them - I challenged your claim that a full strength Arsenal beating them would be in your words a " Massive Shock"
name the players who are world class in your opinionTheir forward line , their defence and they have a far superior manager than arsenal. AM this season are matching both Real and Barca , arsenal are going backwards compared to last season. This is obvious to anyone who follows football in general.
Are you saying you'll best AM in the next round if they get past Real ?
name the players who are world class in your opinion
What have they won? this World class team.... this world class team with no world class players?They are world class as a team because of the way they play together and the way their manager plays them. Alvarez and Griezman are better than any attackers Arsenal have. Watch their matches, youll see they are a top side at present.
You seem to be not impressed so now pls do answer my question.
If its AM next round, Arsenal will go through against them? Yes or No?
You claim to watch them and I bet you could not name their 11 without google.... obviously I cant prove this however its Ramadan bro. Don't lieThey are world class as a team because of the way they play together and the way their manager plays them. Alvarez and Griezman are better than any attackers Arsenal have. Watch their matches, youll see they are a top side at present.
You seem to be not impressed so now pls do answer my question.
If its AM next round, Arsenal will go through against them? Yes or No?
What have they won? this World class team.... this world class team with no world class players?
Alvarez is not better than Saka and nor is this current version of Griezman... yet more deluded football take from you.
If Arsenal were full strength yes we could beat them. This current Arsenal team it will be more difficult with the none existent forward line.
One thing for sure is this. You said it would be a massive shock if a full strength Arsenal beat them. That is a pathetic opinion in my opinion.
What have Arsenal won under Arteta , 1 FA cup and 2 charity shields? lol
You cry too much, maybe try getting a job on AFTV, fit right in there.
But unlike those clowns you dont even have the bottle to say YOUR TEAM will beat AM in the next round. Go watch AFTV , debating with fools is not worth my time.
I see you didn't get an answer on Oliver missing Millwall goalkeeper delivering Shaun micheals "sweet chin music" on Palace playerSo its not only Arsenal who blame refs then. Liverpool manager rolled out the excuses after 1 draw saying it will be the refs fault if they dont win the league. WOW
On another note - I didn't see any discussions about Pep complaining about the ball after the FA Cup match. I remember Arteta getting bashed on this thread. So please guys keep it consistent
Talking of elite or world class players the tag that a lot of this fan base throws around with little substance to back it up.
We will find out how good Rice, Odegaard etc.. really are in next round of CL. Where we will play a side with just as good a midfield as Arsenal.
Rice as a marquee signing, was made to make a difference and the next round if CL will show how good he really is. Against Bayern last season he had very little influence across the two ties.
Same goes for Odegaard will see if he can outshine players who are same or better than him, rather then dissapearing like he did vs Bayern last year aswell.
These will be games where it starts to show if a player is good, elite or world class level.
Rice is very good in the 6 position, he's not a number 8. He does need to take it up a level when he comes up against the best sides in Europe and same at international level for England.Rice works hard gives it his all but is a limited player, certainly not a 100m signing imo. As you know you are only as good as the opposition. Yes it was a good performance but now some Arsenal fans are saying they are going to win the CL or suggesting they can as weaker teams in the past have won it . The problem is you most likely have Real, LFC/PSG and then Barca to beat to win this comp, those teams have world class players.
Next up Man Utd away who are in dissary but they usually raise their game against the top of the league end sides. They also beat Arsenal away in the FA cup. Beating PSV easily is good but if then drop points to a struggling Utd team, not much has changed.
Of course it's not exclusive to Arsenal, just they have a noisy online presence but all clubs have fans that complain about decisions (there's some Newcastle fans suggesting Gordon was was harshly sent off)So its not only Arsenal who blame refs then. Liverpool manager rolled out the excuses after 1 draw saying it will be the refs fault if they dont win the league. WOW
On another note - I didn't see any discussions about Pep complaining about the ball after the FA Cup match. I remember Arteta getting bashed on this thread. So please guys keep it consistent
You could just ask me directly, no need to be all secretive like a teenage girlI see you didn't get an answer on Oliver missing Millwall goalkeeper delivering Shaun micheals "sweet chin music" on Palace player
Maybe certain Oliver fan boys didn't see the incident either![]()
You could just ask me directly, no need to be all secretive like a teenage girl
I've not been active of late as have more important things to concentrate on so have missed many a post
I didn't call Arsenal world class .... looks like someones lost their head.
and there it is TANTRUM time when called out for making statements that make no sense and prove you actually pluck things out of thin air and think you have said something smart.
My work here is done. See you next time
Exactly. And trust me I don't fall for it. I will just continuously put him in his place by asking to explain the odd statements he makes.Bro you see this is one of the reasons why I don't post here. It's become a bit toxic here.
Everyone knows he's just here to antagonise Arsenal fans with rage bait. We shouldn't fall for it and entertain it here. I have to say it's a bit sad for a Liverpool fan to spend more time on an Arsenal thread than the Liverpool one on Timepass, that too during Umrah. It's quite pathetic really.
Oliver saw the incident yet deemed it not an issue, yet at other times he's happy to pull his cards out without a second thought. PGMOL go on and on about how he's the so called best English referee.You could just ask me directly, no need to be all secretive like a teenage girl
I've not been active of late as have more important things to concentrate on so have missed many a post
On the Mateta incident, it was an awful decision but what was worse than the decision was his failure to stop play. It's bad enough to think it wasn't a foul but quite something to not stop play when a player was clearly hurt
I don't support Michael Oliver or claim he's an amazing referee that makes flawless decisions.
I just challenged the narrative that he's getting paid to stop certain teams winning the league. The Millwall decision should prove that he's capable of bad decisions and it isn't part of some conspiracy, unless of course you think he's getting brown envelopes under the table from Millwall.
On Arsenal I think they have a better chance of going through against Real than they do Atletico
We had the blueprint to beat Arsenal and Atletico can do that way better than we do, not saying it's impossible but think it's a tougher test
If your argument all along is that he's a poor referee then I wouldn't have argued otherwiseOliver saw the incident yet deemed it not an issue, yet at other times he's happy to pull his cards out without a second thought. PGMOL go on and on about how he's the so called best English referee.
Very quick to book certain players for kicking a ball away or from stop a counter attack.
But then extra violent tackles ike kovacic or out and out assault by Millwall keeper is seen as a non issue. The guy pretty much picks and chooses when he wants to apply rules or be centre of attention then actually refereeing games.
I'd have Real as favourites against any side in this competitionMost teams playing Real Madrid in CL knockouts have failed to take advantage when on top in games, ultimately Real have then won games and ties by having key players step up and making a difference.
Look at last season. Liepzig, Bayern failed to take numerous chances they had in the home fixture in the knockout games vs Real. Man City outplayed Real for vast majority of the 2 legs, lost on penalties. Dortmund should have been atleast 2-0 up in the final after missing sitters galore.
Even in 1st leg vs Man city this season, City at 1-0 up missed chances to make it 2 or 3 nil.
So any team wanting to beat Real, pretty much needs to put their chances away when on top. Those chances will come and their can be a scenario of if you take those chances your then 2 or 3 goals up vs Madrid. You don't take the chances. They will punish you.
So some Arsenal fans are waving the surrender flag saying Arsenal don't have the firepower. Like donkeys such as havertz or Jesus etc.. would make a difference. Martinelli has been woeful.
In saying that it doesn't matter what frontline Arsenal put out. It's about when you get those chances just put them away.
so of Arsenal played Real, their would be spells in a game where chances would come, those aren't taken and Real will just wipe the floor with you.
Athletico would just be a terrorist football game, we saw how a similar team in Inter Milan stiffled Arsenal and made them look impotent
Of course Real are favourites to retain their title, it will take a goos side to knock them out.I'd have Real as favourites against any side in this competition
They have this mental stranglehold on the CL, seemingly top teams just crumble in the key moments