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Rana said:
Real Madrid QF

Warr gaye!
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If you have Arsenal membership, ballot is on Monday. I'm hopeful that I should get a ticket even if I don't win the ballot as there will be some who'll give up there a ticket a few days before the game.

Would be great to meet up 👊
 
Important win for Arsenal against Chelsea but they are still still 12 points behind Liverpool.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Better than spending time in gay Soho bars and posting .

Its an arsenal thread, but now owned by arsenal team. I have a lot of free time will continue to post where I want.

every man and his dog knows both Madrid teams are strong favourites against this arsenal thread , only aftv type delusional fans would suggest otherwise
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Where have you gone hiding? I thought you had a lot of free time. :ROFLMAO:
 
topspin said:
Where have you gone hiding? I thought you had a lot of free time. :ROFLMAO:
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haha good one. He does spend a lot of his time on this thread.

Come on bro. You have won the league easily, no need to run off like Trent cos you didn't win the Quadruple.

My prediction is he will be back if or when Arsenal get knocked out of the UCL.
 
MK7Z said:
haha good one. He does spend a lot of his time on this thread.

Come on bro. You have won the league easily, no need to run off like Trent cos you didn't win the Quadruple.

My prediction is he will be back if or when Arsenal get knocked out of the UCL.
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He’s definitely done a runner TAA style 😂

I tell you what’s interesting, he was on yesterday, so he’s obviously hiding from this thread:
 

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So new DOF named in Berta.

Club just needs a new manager now and can then move forward and Try and win trophies. Rather than the waste of 5+ years with current manager who can't manage a entire squad effectively
 
topspin said:
Good appointment you reckon?

@Rana @MK7Z @IMMY69 I'd be interested to get your thoughts on this as well.
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He's worked at Athletico and done good job there. He needs to be left to scout and do transfers and do whats best for club in terms of selecting profiles, we also need players with backbone, and attitude to win. To many signings have been nothing more then obident lil boys who will listen to mikel. You don't win with such players. No more crap like havertz, Merino, calafori etc..

Scout players who can stay fit, but also actually make a difference. Will see how much influence Berta has, as Arteta has been given way to much and failed with it. Hopefully Berta won't be a yes man.
 
topspin said:
Good appointment you reckon?

@Rana @MK7Z @IMMY69 I'd be interested to get your thoughts on this as well.
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Excellent appointment. One of the best around and defo best choice out of the options available.

Very experienced and hopefully will be tougher with Arteta and his odd signings.

If there is money and Berta is in charge of signings then it's a big summer for Arteta and Arsenal. Arteta more so then the club.
 
topspin said:
Good appointment you reckon?

@Rana @MK7Z @IMMY69 I'd be interested to get your thoughts on this as well.
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I'm with @MK7Z on this one.
He'll prove to be an extremely shrewd DOF.

The league has evolved, it maybe Liverpool dominating this season but the other clubs are definitely catching up and its getting more and more competitive so a good DOF is going to be essential.
 
Saka back in squad and on the bench. Maybe 20-25 mins later for him. To ease him.back in
 
Looks like the club got its April fools joke in early this morning.

It's going to be a "big summer", I am excited.. usual PR spun bakwas from the manager.

Waffling on about depth and quality. The continual useless signings uve made are reason for no depth.

I'm sure the fans still backing this clown in charge, will have same deluded aspirations in the summer.
 
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That Gabriel injury is devastating. This was a dead game anyway but that has just took everything from it.

Only chance we had vs Real was our backline.. That's that then. Sigh
 
MK7Z said:
That Gabriel injury is devastating. This was a dead game anyway but that has just took everything from it.

Only chance we had vs Real was our backline.. That's that then. Sigh
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Now have to depend on kiwor, other option would be calafori but he can't stay fit.

Knowing Arteta he might just stick timber in at CB and partey at RB if lnjuriees don't clear up vs Real Madrid

But don't worry "big summer Ahead" and the squad depth will be address. Don't forget to give the club your welcome earned money, so they can scam you with more lies in the summer 😉
 
Amjid Javed said:
Now have to depend on kiwor, other option would be calafori but he can't stay fit.

Knowing Arteta he might just stick timber in at CB and partey at RB if lnjuriees don't clear up vs Real Madrid

But don't worry "big summer Ahead" and the squad depth will be address. Don't forget to give the club your welcome earned money, so they can scam you with more lies in the summer 😉
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What's big summer ahead got to do with Gabriel getting injured?

Ben White would be the obvious one at CB but he's missing from the squad today.

Whoever it is won't fill the boots of Gabriel. He's important in both boxes.
 
MK7Z said:
What's big summer ahead got to do with Gabriel getting injured?

Ben White would be the obvious one at CB but he's missing from the squad today.

Whoever it is won't fill the boots of Gabriel. He's important in both boxes.
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Ben White is right footed. Arteta doesn't play two CBs with same stronger foot. We've been down that route before where Arteta won't pick 2 right footed CBs to play together. Everything has to be synchronised.

All that injuries have done this season is expose a poorly constructed squad, also just expose again that this manager can't manage a squad in so called adversity.

My point on Big summer is. The season was dead in January, so you may as well focus on the club summer where club will scam everyone again on so called Ambition.

"War chest" under wenger

"Big summer" under Arteta

Same PR bakwas just reworded

Merino might as well score a few more goals, (then just like when the other donkey, havertz had a golden patch) the club can make excuses for not needing a striker as merino is the new giroud.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Ben White is right footed. Arteta doesn't play two CBs with same stronger foot. We've been down that route before where Arteta won't pick 2 right footed CBs to play together. Everything has to be synchronised.

All that injuries have done this season is expose a poorly constructed squad, also just expose again that this manager can't manage a squad in so called adversity.

My point on Big summer is. The season was dead in January, so you may as well focus on the club summer where club will scam everyone again on so called Ambition.

"War chest" under wenger

"Big summer" under Arteta

Same PR bakwas just reworded

Merino might as well score a few more goals, (then just like when the other donkey, havertz had a golden patch) the club can make excuses for not needing a striker as merino is the new giroud.
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Yes he does only play LCB's in that position. Kiwior is not good. His positioning is poor and he does not engage. The Madrid forward line will have him for breakfast. His lack of pace is scary. Ben White is a better CB regardless of what foot he is. But its Mikel innit. He does what he wants.

I dont expect to see Gabi until next season now tbh. I mean if he isn't fit for the 2nd leg then no point playing him and let him recover as he has played a lot of games this season. Unless we beat Madrid obviously

Our defence is actually well stacked but just injury prone now. Calofiori has been a massive let down with his availability. Also Ben White being out has left Timber playing to much. The ideal would have been rotate timber and white at RB. Cala to slot in when Gabi not around. Not even mentioned Tomiyasu but he is a ghost.

They are not wrong though - it is a big summer. Not because of the war chest but if they get it wrong its bye bye Mikel. I cant see why they would bring Berta in and not be active in addressing our needs.
 
MK7Z said:
Yes he does only play LCB's in that position. Kiwior is not good. His positioning is poor and he does not engage. The Madrid forward line will have him for breakfast. His lack of pace is scary. Ben White is a better CB regardless of what foot he is. But its Mikel innit. He does what he wants.

I dont expect to see Gabi until next season now tbh. I mean if he isn't fit for the 2nd leg then no point playing him and let him recover as he has played a lot of games this season. Unless we beat Madrid obviously

Our defence is actually well stacked but just injury prone now. Calofiori has been a massive let down with his availability. Also Ben White being out has left Timber playing to much. The ideal would have been rotate timber and white at RB. Cala to slot in when Gabi not around. Not even mentioned Tomiyasu but he is a ghost.

They are not wrong though - it is a big summer. Not because of the war chest but if they get it wrong its bye bye Mikel. I cant see why they would bring Berta in and not be active in addressing our needs.
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The messed up last 3 transfer window has now meant they will be to many holes in squad to fill. Next season the same excuses of lack of depth will be exposed. Even if Berts waves a magic wand all the glaring gaps won't be filled. I was mainly focused on the midfield and upfront. Reality is the "well stack defence" will have same issues.

1 - back up goal keeper, so Arsenal are looking at 20M on a back up keeper.

2 - Defence, kiwor, Zinchenko, Tierney will all be let go. Tomiyasu might as well have his contract cancelled, no one is paying a transfer fee or his 100k wages for someone who can't stay fit. So essentially your left with.

Timber, white, gabi, saliba, LMS, calafori.

Timber, white, calafori as the "back up center backs" . Yet Timber and calafori can't stay fit. I warned everyone calsfori was made of glass, but no one chose to listen. 1 injury to Timber or calafori for example means 2 positions are left short we saw this same idiotic type squad use of so called players who can play in different positions fail before when we bottled top 4 and title.

Reality is Arsenal need to buy 2 defenders in summer. That's not taking onto consideration if Gabi or saliba leave.

3 - Jorginho will be going, partey may stay 1 more year so your looking at atleast one midfielder. The club's looking at number 6s. If that's case that means Rice used as an 8, which he's not. On top that 100M wasted on havertz and Merino who in midfield have Been garbage. The team needs creativity because the captain seems to enjoy dissapearing when it matters most. So midfield your looking at atleast 2 signings.

4- a new striker needed and Arteta wanted sesko, why? Because he would be happy rotate with havertz. Arteta doesn't want to bench his highest paid player. This is where Berta needs to do whats best for Arsenal and over rule the manager. Trossard has refused a new deal, sell him to Saudi. If Anyone offers for Martinelli sell him as well. Then sterling loan is ended.

So you'd looking at a striker. Plus a wide forward minimum

Reality is - back up keeper, 2 defenders, 2 midfielders, striker and a winger.

We can't be in situation of signing more Vieira, havertz, merino type garbage etc..

Pretty much the mess Arteta has created Berta essentially has to fix all in the summer window, everyone knows we ain't doing anything in January. Also Edu hasn't even started his job at forest yet, he's still on garden leave. That should tell anyone that he wasn't happy with Arteta been stupidly given so much power.

Arsenal needs are huge, the fact Arteta has rambled rubbish about going again, improving depth etc.. pretty much yells you he knows he's fked up. But the 15M a year wages will keep him rolling out the excuse for himself and the owners.

Supposedly the club is at stage 4.5, establishing as a regular CL team. 5 years plan just to make CL regularly it just shows the club up for its lack of ambition.

Arsenal are dependant on

1) Berta working miracles
2) Man city being done for 115 charges or their rebuild taking time next seaaon
3) Liverpool lose their 3 key players and have to revamp the team

Even if Arsenal make a dogs dinner of things next season, like they did this one. The owners will keep the manager as long as they make top 4. The fact the fan base have made same excuses as manager all season. The owners know the fans won't revolt in stadium. Next season will be ground hog day again unless Arsenal get every single summer signing right and they are elite quality.
 
Gabi out for the season. The season has been a disaster on many fronts. Injuries to major players being one of them.

We can ramble on here and repeat ourselves with the why's and poor management, but from a footballing point of view I was really looking forward to our defence being up against the best around. It would have been a true test to stamp their authority as the best CB pairing around. These are the true tests you want your better plays to be ready for.
 
MK7Z said:
Gabi out for the season. The season has been a disaster on many fronts. Injuries to major players being one of them.

We can ramble on here and repeat ourselves with the why's and poor management, but from a footballing point of view I was really looking forward to our defence being up against the best around. It would have been a true test to stamp their authority as the best CB pairing around. These are the true tests you want your better plays to be ready for.
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Yeah its a shame Gabi / saliba combo won't play against Madrid.

In saying that we beat Madrid last time with a back 4 of eboue, senderos toure and flamini

So winning with make shift back 4 can be done 😉
 
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Yeah its a shame Gabi / saliba combo won't play against Madrid.

In saying that we beat Madrid last time with a back 4 of eboue, senderos toure and flamini

So winning with make shift back 4 can be done 😉
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Gabi being out is the best thing that could happen. it's the happiest news for me in sports since Pak won 2021 WC match vs India.
 
Injured Arsenal defender Gabriel out for season

Arsenal defender Gabriel will miss the remainder of the season after the club confirmed he requires hamstring surgery.

The Brazilian was substituted in the first half of Arsenal's 2-1 win against Fulham at the Emirates stadium on Tuesday.

The former Lille defender has started 28 of Arsenal's 30 Premier League matches this term, helping the club to the best defensive record in the division with 25 goals conceded.

Arsenal say the 27-year-old is aiming to return to action in time for the start of the 2025-26 campaign.

"Gabi will undergo a surgical repair procedure to his hamstring in the coming days, and immediately begin his recovery and rehabilitation programme, with the aim to be ready for the start of next season," the club said.

Gabriel's absence could have a significant impact on the team, with the website Premier League Injuries reporting that Arsenal's win percentage drops significantly when he does not feature.

Since his league debut, Arsenal have won 63.5% of the 159 games he has played, but only 40.9% of the 22 he has missed.

It is the 119th hamstring injury in the Premier League so far this season, an average of four injuries to the muscle each round of games.

Last season saw 163 hamstring injuries - the highest for five years - according to figures from Premier Injuries.

Arsenal are second in the Premier League, 12 points behind leaders Liverpool with eight matches remaining.

The Gunners face holders Real Madrid in the Champions League quarter-finals.

Carlo Ancelotti's side visit north London on 8 April (20:00 BST), before travelling to the Bernabeu for the second leg on 16 April (20:00 BST.


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Judging by team selection today, looks like Arteta has thrown towel in on title.

What happened to over his dead body? 🤣🤦‍♂️
 
I said earlier in the week Ben White at CB. But I've changed my mind. He's way better than Kiwior but he is not match sharp. Been very sloppy
 
Amjid Javed said:
Judging by team selection today, looks like Arteta has thrown towel in on title.

What happened to over his dead body? 🤣🤦‍♂️
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He's rightly rotated. Guy can't win.

If he'd said when he was asked back then the title was over you would have accused him of having loser mentality.

Doomed if he does doomed if he don't
 
MK7Z said:
I said earlier in the week Ben White at CB. But I've changed my mind. He's way better than Kiwior but he is not match sharp. Been very sloppy
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Looks like Timber is being kept back and will probably play CB with Saliba vs Madrid.

White is probably best playing up until 60th min today, then take him off. Thar should be enough minutes for today.

Madrid have Been shipping a lot of goals this season, So Arsenal will have to be clinical in midweek.

Not sure why trossards done another moody goal celebration, like he's been annoyed for being left out of starting 11 vs Fulham. He's been **** all season, the diva act is actually boring now
 
MK7Z said:
He's rightly rotated. Guy can't win.

If he'd said when he was asked back then the title was over you would have accused him of having loser mentality.

Doomed if he does doomed if he don't
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Just the over my dead body comment when asked about title race was weird, especially if a few games later uve pretty much conceded on title.

Yeah rotation makes sense because, ultimately they have messed up 3 competitions this season. So eggs are all in one basket now.
 
Disclaimer: I am in no way defending our team...

But this ref was absolutely useless..
Didn't give a blatant yellow card to their player early in the first half...

Blows for a penalty which everyone will agree was the softest of soft penalties...

Finally loses the plot completely by blowing whistle for full time only to realise that he was too early...
 
Don't let Darren Englands performance go unnoticed. Eventhough it's a dead rubber game.

Weird weird referee. Same one who didn't overturn MLS red card....
 
IMMY69 said:
Disclaimer: I am in no way defending our team...

But this ref was absolutely useless..
Didn't give a blatant yellow card to their player early in the first half...

Blows for a penalty which everyone will agree was the firftest of soft penalties...

Finally loses the plot completely by blowing whistle for full time only to realise that he was too early...
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Yes blew for full time but then decided Trossard fouled when he made zero contact and restart the game with a Everton free kick.... These refs are on the white stuff. There is no other explanation.
As you are not allowed to to say they referee teams differently.
 
MK7Z said:
Yes blew for full time but then decided Trossard fouled when he made zero contact and restart the game with a Everton free kick.... These refs are on the white stuff. There is no other explanation.
As you are not allowed to to say they referee teams differently.
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Honestly, I'm really fed up with this BS...

I don't think I can name one solid English ref...
 
IMMY69 said:
Honestly, I'm really fed up with this BS...

I don't think I can name one solid English ref...
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Innit

I honestly can't see how the ref gave the pen. It was very very soft.

Maybe I have arsenal tinted glasses on but I thought Harrison was the one fouling if anything.

Also you are allowed to block the keeper kicking the ball from his hands now it seems....
 
MK7Z said:
Innit

I honestly can't see how the ref gave the pen. It was very very soft.

Maybe I have arsenal tinted glasses on but I thought Harrison was the one fouling if anything.

Also you are allowed to block the keeper kicking the ball from his hands now it seems....
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This is the referee that was on VAR for Liverpool vs spurs game and drew lines in wrong place.

Awful referee, probably one of the worst on PL roster

In regards to the penalty, it should be given as a free kick outside the box as that's where foul took place, the shirt pull started outside the box.

Anyways PL refs will never improve
 
MK7Z said:
Innit

I honestly can't see how the ref gave the pen. It was very very soft.

Maybe I have arsenal tinted glasses on but I thought Harrison was the one fouling if anything.

Also you are allowed to block the keeper kicking the ball from his hands now it seems....
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As a neutral I thought the penalty decision was ridiculous (not watched the rest of the game so can't talk about the other moments), was poor positioning from Skelly but ultimately both were making as much contact as one another

Once it's given on field we know it's unlikely VAR will get involved
 
Amjid Javed said:
This is the referee that was on VAR for Liverpool vs spurs game and drew lines in wrong place.

Awful referee, probably one of the worst on PL roster

In regards to the penalty, it should be given as a free kick outside the box as that's where foul took place, the shirt pull started outside the box.

Anyways PL refs will never improve
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The law is if the offence continues into the box then it's a penalty

So if you think it's a foul then a penalty was the correct outcome

As mentioned I don't think it's a foul and certainly not enough for a penalty
 
MK7Z said:
Innit

I honestly can't see how the ref gave the pen. It was very very soft.

Maybe I have arsenal tinted glasses on but I thought Harrison was the one fouling if anything.

Also you are allowed to block the keeper kicking the ball from his hands now it seems....
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Exactly...

The tens if not hundreds of millions that are involved in the game, and yet we churn out dross when it comes to refereeing
 
Geordie Ahmed said:
As a neutral I thought the penalty decision was ridiculous (not watched the rest of the game so can't talk about the other moments), was poor positioning from Skelly but ultimately both were making as much contact as one another

Once it's given on field we know it's unlikely VAR will get involved
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A reckless slide tackle that upended Nweneri at the start of the game when the ball was almost out of play should have at least have been a yellow... set the precedent for the rest of the game...

Then to award a penalty for what was really two players coming together and issuing a second yellow for the Everton player literally barging into Raya to stop him releasing the ball was the icing on the cake..
 
Mediocre refereeing or not.

Drawing 11 games this season is beyond criminal. The lack of creativity and lack of clinical edge has been exposed.
 
Even though he was on the bench yesterday, when he came on how pathetically poor was oddegard again. His pathetic attempt at a shot sums up how mediocre this guy is .

There was full scale bhangra in this thread earlier in season at how Musiala should be signed as back up to oddegard. How oddegard would walk into Bayern, Barca and Real Madrid teams.

Vastly overated rated player and should have captaincy taken off him at end of season as well. Nowhere near elite level that delusionalist think that he's at.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Even though he was on the bench yesterday, when he came on how pathetically poor was oddegard again. His pathetic attempt at a shot sums up how mediocre this guy is .

There was full scale bhangra in this thread earlier in season at how Musiala should be signed as back up to oddegard. How oddegard would walk into Bayern, Barca and Real Madrid teams.

Vastly overated rated player and should have captaincy taken off him at end of season as well. Nowhere near elite level that delusionalist think that he's at.
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I hold my hands up admit I'm a massive odegaard fan. However I have been very disappointed in him this season. I've called out his performances several times.
After the 2 seasons prior to this one I really thought he was reaching that level where he would get into most teams but he has gone backwards.

The injury could have played a part however he's had plenty time to get his form back.

Problem Arsenal have is we don't have anyone to challenge his position..

Another thing is he needs space to operate. When teams set up defensively against us unless we take the lead he just gets the ball and does Circles and then goes nowhere.

Interesting point about the captaincy, I think he is not the type to put pressure on the refs after decisions. We get a lot of bad ones and I don't recall him being in the refs face. It's normally Rice or Big Gabi. Even Jorg gives it to the ref.

His new best friend off the pitch is Havertz. Make of that what you wish.

I think he'd be better suited to the number 8 and we get a proper number 10 old school play maker.
 
MK7Z said:
I hold my hands up admit I'm a massive odegaard fan. However I have been very disappointed in him this season. I've called out his performances several times.
After the 2 seasons prior to this one I really thought he was reaching that level where he would get into most teams but he has gone backwards.

The injury could have played a part however he's had plenty time to get his form back.

Problem Arsenal have is we don't have anyone to challenge his position..

Another thing is he needs space to operate. When teams set up defensively against us unless we take the lead he just gets the ball and does Circles and then goes nowhere.

Interesting point about the captaincy, I think he is not the type to put pressure on the refs after decisions. We get a lot of bad ones and I don't recall him being in the refs face. It's normally Rice or Big Gabi. Even Jorg gives it to the ref.

His new best friend off the pitch is Havertz. Make of that what you wish.

I think he'd be better suited to the number 8 and we get a proper number 10 old school play maker.
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You probably laugh. But Odegaard and Havetz need to swap positions. Havertz was a excellent 10 at Leverkuson. And Odegaard would suit the 8. Meaning Party and Rice fight out for the 6.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Mediocre refereeing or not.

Drawing 11 games this season is beyond criminal. The lack of creativity and lack of clinical edge has been exposed.
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Arsenal have this tendency to start feeling sorry for themselves, yes LFC have the lead but you can’t go out there like the season is already lost. LFC dropped points but there’s no pressure from Arsenal to worry about.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
You probably laugh. But Odegaard and Havetz need to swap positions. Havertz was a excellent 10 at Leverkuson. And Odegaard would suit the 8. Meaning Party and Rice fight out for the 6.
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Havertz in 10 doesn't work. This was tried last season and failed. People getting over excited because of what he did at Leverkusen. He's been rubbish at Chelsea and Arsenal used in advanced position.

If Arsenal sign a proper striker, Arteta will go back to using havertz in that position again. Because he want to bench the highest paid player at club.

Arsenal need a proper play maker. Signing such as havertz, Merino to use in an advanced midfield role have taken the club backwards.
 
MK7Z said:
I hold my hands up admit I'm a massive odegaard fan. However I have been very disappointed in him this season. I've called out his performances several times.
After the 2 seasons prior to this one I really thought he was reaching that level where he would get into most teams but he has gone backwards.

The injury could have played a part however he's had plenty time to get his form back.

Problem Arsenal have is we don't have anyone to challenge his position..

Another thing is he needs space to operate. When teams set up defensively against us unless we take the lead he just gets the ball and does Circles and then goes nowhere.

Interesting point about the captaincy, I think he is not the type to put pressure on the refs after decisions. We get a lot of bad ones and I don't recall him being in the refs face. It's normally Rice or Big Gabi. Even Jorg gives it to the ref.

His new best friend off the pitch is Havertz. Make of that what you wish.

I think he'd be better suited to the number 8 and we get a proper number 10 old school play maker.
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This season he seems more instant on dropping deep and picking ball up from full backs, CBs like he's meant to doing what carzola use to do. He's nowhere near that level, the whole turning full circle with ball, passing it side ways or slowing down attack is getting annoying now. His performances at international level have been just as poor over last few years as well(only his last international game where he got 3 assists vs Israel has been of any sort of decent standard).

He's not improved at all, yeah he leads the pressure and has energy. But he lacks that eye of a needle pass that quality number 10s have. Yeah 100% he doesn't seem to want to kick up a fuss with referees or get stuck in with opposition players when needed. He's just a "posterboy" captain which is the last thing this club needs on the pitch. It needs a leader.

When oddegard was injured earlier in season, saka still stepped up and performed. Yet when saka has been out the captain has failed to do that. This is why Saka is by far the best and most important player at club.

Oddegard needs to massively improve his performance come Tuesday night. Others need to do the same. We will find out what level alot of these players are at after 2 games vs Real.

Who would you want as a number 10?
 
shaz619 said:
Arsenal have this tendency to start feeling sorry for themselves, yes LFC have the lead but you can’t go out there like the season is already lost. LFC dropped points but there’s no pressure from Arsenal to worry about.
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The fans have cried about referees and injuries.

The manager has rolled the excuse out that, this season is a miracle based on injuries. That Arsenal should be mid table.

When you have this begarait mindset in the fan base and with the manager it's no shock they don't win anything.

That lack of mentality Is why the keep falling short. Forrest, Newcastle and even Villa have put Arsenal's efforts this season to shame. The fact Arsenal can't compete on different fronts and less equipped sides can has exposed how poor a job Arteta has done in squad building in 5/6 years
 
Amjid Javed said:
This season he seems more instant on dropping deep and picking ball up from full backs, CBs like he's meant to doing what carzola use to do. He's nowhere near that level, the whole turning full circle with ball, passing it side ways or slowing down attack is getting annoying now. His performances at international level have been just as poor over last few years as well(only his last international game where he got 3 assists vs Israel has been of any sort of decent standard).

He's not improved at all, yeah he leads the pressure and has energy. But he lacks that eye of a needle pass that quality number 10s have. Yeah 100% he doesn't seem to want to kick up a fuss with referees or get stuck in with opposition players when needed. He's just a "posterboy" captain which is the last thing this club needs on the pitch. It needs a leader.

When oddegard was injured earlier in season, saka still stepped up and performed. Yet when saka has been out the captain has failed to do that. This is why Saka is by far the best and most important player at club.

Oddegard needs to massively improve his performance come Tuesday night. Others need to do the same. We will find out what level alot of these players are at after 2 games vs Real.

Who would you want as a number 10?
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There's not many out there. I like Kudus and he can play on the wing to. I'd like to have seen Ethan at number 10.
I think he will start with Havertz there depending on how the window goes.

Obviously Wirtz is the dream but that ain't happening.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Havertz in 10 doesn't work. This was tried last season and failed. People getting over excited because of what he did at Leverkusen. He's been rubbish at Chelsea and Arsenal used in advanced position.

If Arsenal sign a proper striker, Arteta will go back to using havertz in that position again. Because he want to bench the highest paid player at club.

Arsenal need a proper play maker. Signing such as havertz, Merino to use in an advanced midfield role have taken the club backwards.
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Chelsea and Arsenal are guilty of tinkering with Havertz. This has caused lack of clarity on his behalf. He's never been a center forward, Yet Arteta contined to play him there as did Chelsea.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Chelsea and Arsenal are guilty of tinkering with Havertz. This has caused lack of clarity on his behalf. He's never been a center forward, Yet Arteta contined to play him there as did Chelsea.
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The guys been in PL for over 5 seasons now, he's simply overated and a flat track bully who only turns up against bottom half of league teams in PL. 5 seaaons is enough to establish yourself to be good enough or not as a player.
 
MK7Z said:
There's not many out there. I like Kudus and he can play on the wing to. I'd like to have seen Ethan at number 10.
I think he will start with Havertz there depending on how the window goes.

Obviously Wirtz is the dream but that ain't happening.
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I think kudus is aintable but probably would cost 80M. Arsenal should have signed him when west ham did. Yet another poor transfer decision or lack of it at the time.

I think wirtz will end up at Man city.
 
Amjid Javed said:
The guys been in PL for over 5 seasons now, he's simply overated and a flat track bully who only turns up against bottom half of league teams in PL. 5 seaaons is enough to establish yourself to be good enough or not as a player.
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But that comes to the managers as well. Both at Chelsea and at Arsenal he's been used as a " Jack of all trades, master of None" His best position is the CAM.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
But that comes to the managers as well. Both at Chelsea and at Arsenal he's been used as a " Jack of all trades, master of None" His best position is the CAM.
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He was used as CAM and a forward at Chelsea and failed. Just like how hes been used for Germany as well and been trash.

He's an overated player and should be sent back to German league.

He's one of main reasons Arsenal went out of league cup ahd FA cup this season.

Overated donkey 🫏. Same people hyping up havertz are usually ones overhyped oddegard as well.
 
Amjid Javed said:
He was used as CAM and a forward at Chelsea and failed. Just like how hes been used for Germany as well and been trash.

He's an overated player and should be sent back to German league.

He's one of main reasons Arsenal went out of league cup ahd FA cup this season.

Overated donkey 🫏. Same people hyping up havertz are usually ones overhyped oddegard as well.
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Funny though, your criticism is focused on the players you least like.

Now, if it was constructive criticism, then you'd definitely agree, Rice at 105 million has been culpable as anyone else. Him at 8 this season been bang average.
 
I am really looking forward to the game tomorrow. Been a while since been this excited for a game.

We will probably get smashed over the 2 legs but we've waited a long time to play European royalty.

I would love for us to win and never say never but I am just excited for the event. I think the Emirates will be up for it as this has been the only game since the Carabao cup Semi to be honest - worth investing in.

Now its a long way to the final and very unlikely however all being well I will be performing Hajj this year. Yes that does mean if Arsenal got to the final I would miss it haha but lets see. Its the bottom of my list when going out there.

Anyway lets deal with and enjoy the next 2 games for now. None of this scared its Madrid hype. Or we are unlucky to draw Madrid. These are the games you want to be involved in otherwise stick to the Europa League and play farmers every Thurs instead.

As AJ pointed out Real are not defensively secure and wont play a low block so I don't think we will be under siege. We need to be brave. Also don't give the Ref the chance to book you - especially if they are already on a yellow which I think Rice is.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Funny though, your criticism is focused on the players you least like.

Now, if it was constructive criticism, then you'd definitely agree, Rice at 105 million has been culpable as anyone else. Him at 8 this season been bang average.
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I criticise every single player that needs to be criticised.

Oddegard has been trash all season, on top of that he's the club captain and should be doing better.

Havertz is the highest paid player at club, again a waste of space and effort.

As far as Rice goes he's a number 6 and a top quality 6. Yes I 100% agree as an 8 he's been average.

Spending 100M on a player you expect them to deliver in big games and make a difference. So yeah Rice needs to turn up vs Real Madrid. He was average against Bayern last season.

So please don't think I won't criticise Rice either, I've called him out before.

Arsenal can beat Madrid tomorrow, it means that certain players will have to step up for once in a big European knockout game against a big side. Also Arsenal will have to clinical infront of goal
 
They surely can, but the bottlers mentality the biggest impediment
Amjid Javed said:
I criticise every single player that needs to be criticised.

Oddegard has been trash all season, on top of that he's the club captain and should be doing better.

Havertz is the highest paid player at club, again a waste of space and effort.

As far as Rice goes he's a number 6 and a top quality 6. Yes I 100% agree as an 8 he's been average.

Spending 100M on a player you expect them to deliver in big games and make a difference. So yeah Rice needs to turn up vs Real Madrid. He was average against Bayern last season.

So please don't think I won't criticise Rice either, I've called him out before.

Arsenal can beat Madrid tomorrow, it means that certain players will have to step up for once in a big European knockout game against a big side. Also Arsenal will have to clinical infront of goal
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MK7Z said:
I am really looking forward to the game tomorrow. Been a while since been this excited for a game.

We will probably get smashed over the 2 legs but we've waited a long time to play European royalty.

I would love for us to win and never say never but I am just excited for the event. I think the Emirates will be up for it as this has been the only game since the Carabao cup Semi to be honest - worth investing in.

Now its a long way to the final and very unlikely however all being well I will be performing Hajj this year. Yes that does mean if Arsenal got to the final I would miss it haha but lets see. Its the bottom of my list when going out there.

Anyway lets deal with and enjoy the next 2 games for now. None of this scared its Madrid hype. Or we are unlucky to draw Madrid. These are the games you want to be involved in otherwise stick to the Europa League and play farmers every Thurs instead.

As AJ pointed out Real are not defensively secure and wont play a low block so I don't think we will be under siege. We need to be brave. Also don't give the Ref the chance to book you - especially if they are already on a yellow which I think Rice is.
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Yes these are games fans should be excited about. These are the games where we see if we have improved from last season.

I can see the game being like the bayern 1st leg last year, where we will get chances early on the get an goal. Real always tend to start games slow, so this is where Arsenal have to take advantage. At the other end players like kiwor, MLS can't be naive in their defending as vini JR, mbappe etc.. will punish us.

Will manager be brave and ask team to play on front foot, or will he try and copy Athletico and try and play on counter attack, which wouldn't suit Arsenal.

Lets hope we get a similar night to when Arsenal beat Barca 2-1 and Arshavin scored the winner all those years ago. That's sort of performance Arsenal need to produce
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Funny though, your criticism is focused on the players you least like.

Now, if it was constructive criticism, then you'd definitely agree, Rice at 105 million has been culpable as anyone else. Him at 8 this season been bang average.
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Amjid Javed said:
Yes these are games fans should be excited about. These are the games where we see if we have improved from last season.

I can see the game being like the bayern 1st leg last year, where we will get chances early on the get an goal. Real always tend to start games slow, so this is where Arsenal have to take advantage. At the other end players like kiwor, MLS can't be naive in their defending as vini JR, mbappe etc.. will punish us.

Will manager be brave and ask team to play on front foot, or will he try and copy Athletico and try and play on counter attack, which wouldn't suit Arsenal.

Lets hope we get a similar night to when Arsenal beat Barca 2-1 and Arshavin scored the winner all those years ago. That's sort of performance Arsenal need to produce
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What a night. Prime Barca to. I know the words to the commentary lol
 
Amjid Javed said:
I criticise every single player that needs to be criticised.

Oddegard has been trash all season, on top of that he's the club captain and should be doing better.

Havertz is the highest paid player at club, again a waste of space and effort.

As far as Rice goes he's a number 6 and a top quality 6. Yes I 100% agree as an 8 he's been average.

Spending 100M on a player you expect them to deliver in big games and make a difference. So yeah Rice needs to turn up vs Real Madrid. He was average against Bayern last season.

So please don't think I won't criticise Rice either, I've called him out before.

Arsenal can beat Madrid tomorrow, it means that certain players will have to step up for once in a big European knockout game against a big side. Also Arsenal will have to clinical infront of goal
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If Mbappe, vinni Rodriguez, Bellingham fire, its curtains for Arsenal.
 
Break good for me mentally - Saka

Arsenal's Bukayo Saka says his enforced break with a hamstring injury was "really good" for him mentally.

Saka was introduced at half-time against Everton at the weekend as he builds up his fitness from an injury that kept him out for 101 days.

Saka, 23, scored on his return in Arsenal's win against Fulham last week before his 45 minutes of football at the weekend.

Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta said Saka would be in a "much better place" to start against Real Madrid in their Champions League quarter-final on Tuesday night.

"I think mentally it was really good for me." Saka said of the enforced break.

"Obviously it was really tough for me initially to find out the extent of my injury and that I was going to have surgery but once it was done and successful I was just focused on coming back stronger.

"The past five years I've been playing game after game so it was the first proper break I've had. It was really good for me. I got to do a lot of things that I don't normally do.

"It's really nice to be back and I feel fresh mentally." Saka said.

The England international will be into the final two years of his contract this summer but played down any worries about his future.

"I want to win and I want to win wearing this badge so I think it's pretty clear," he said.

"The fans know how much I love them and you saw on Tuesday I think they loved me back so it's a good relationship and I'm really happy to be here. I'm just focused on winning."


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Bukayo Saka: Arsenal forward says injury break was "really good" for him mentally

Arsenal take on Real Madrid in their Champions League quarter-final on Tuesday, with a refreshed Bukayo Saka.
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Some very sloppy and niave football so far. Got away with a few times and lucky Madrid haven't punished us.

0-0

Midfield has to be braver in passing as well, very timid and safety first
 
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