Head scored a match winning century in the final against India. Australia were rocking!
Babar has 5 centuries against wi, 2 against 2019 C string aus, 1 against Nepal, 2 vs Zimbabwe, and 1 against C string NZ?
In Tests it's definitely not clear cut. Head is a proven home track bully in tests within average of 32 outside of his beloved Australian grounds which is just better than a tailender average.
Agree with your first sentence but it needs to be in Australia. Outside of Australia Head has shown he is a mediocre HTB with an average of 32 and 0 away centuries (1 neutral century). All the intent and aggression only works for him in Aus and on his own pitches
I beg of you, tell me this is trolling
@atreus numbers are clear. Head 8 of his 9 centuries in Aus, 0 centuries away from home. Averages 32 away from Australia. Numbers bear it out that he's a HTB. Aggressive, intent, all the buzzwords only apply in Aus.
He literally singlehandedly won Australia the 2023 WTC, no one cares if he performs in some random series in Sri Lanka or West Indies in front of that achievement.
This is why stats are so misleading. Babar is undergoing a period where his future is uncertain while head has consistently been improving as a batsmen year by year.
Babar has odi ave 50 vs NZ good bowlers.He had 35.5 ave in SENA while Head away records in test is not good
No one is denying that Babar isnt more consistent then Travis Head.
You've been a good poster for a while and I garnered some respect for you, don't make me change my mind.
I wasn’t aware of Head’s poor away record.
It is a valid talking point - people will gloss over it because it is Head and not Babar. Imagine if Babar had 0 away centuries. Head has 0 away centuries in tests! That's a crazy stat. Why should he be held to a different standard?
Babar has more 2 test centuries away from home, Head has 0.
People respect Head because he dominates Ind unlike Babar.Besides Aus it is Ind who is the big dog in test and odi.Playing well against them could create a blindspot on people mind that Head is also good in other areas like away matches
Now that you are aware, you doubt his excellence?
First you got to tell me who is the sidekick
What sidekick? I’m asking you about the interpretation of records and stats and how they alter your thinking?
You need to start adding your own views to a discussion, rather than just simply liking or disliking what others have to say.
I do my part by correcting falsehood.
This is a good post and I can see your point of view even if I would take Babar over Head in ODIs on most pitches except ultra flat phattas. You see the bias here against Babar though? Head is revered when he scores on a phatta in MCG or Sydney but Babar will be castigated for not performing in seaming conditions vs Garner and McGrath on a green pitch in November. Head's 0 away centuries and poor away record is being overlooked and is called "so-called" as if it doesn't actually exist lol.
What is the falsehood? Head averages 32 away from Australia with 0 away centuries and 1 neutral century. When you don't have data you start badmouthing people or sidestepping the question.
I am glad people are waking up to this regardless of where you stand on Babar vs Head. Head is a HTB of the highest order and until he corrects that and starts performing outside of his Australian pitches, he should not be rated. Imagine a Pakistani batsman with 9 centuries and 0 of them away from Pakistan. He would have been crucified by now.
That's it, Head's rated on "perception" more than actual output. He is held to a different standard. It's ok if he is a HTB but other players must prove their greatness away from home...LOL!
Why does away record not matter to you.
AGAIN... FINAL TIME
Agendas are exposed. Babar is struggling at the moment but at least he still has away test centuries unlike HTB Head.
Well it matters because the discussion has to be clear.
as i said previously Babar needs to score some daddy hundreds to regain his lost fanbase. But to ignore Head’s away record is mind boggling to say the least
Yes Head's away record of playing 12 total tests in every country excluding England.
Neutral 100
There is no lost fanbase for Babar.
Thank you brother. Data doesn't lie.
This ends the debate I suppose
Yes, but the 2 of you do. Zero overseas test centuries
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stats.espncricinfo.com
Not worth it, he doesn't even know the difference between neutral and away centuries. Let's not engage him. We have put the facts out there. Btw, this is Babar's record:
Haters will say you hacked cricinfo website and edited Head’s Overseas recordBatting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com
Putting here for people to check this HTB record.
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22 tests outside of Australia, averages 32.9 with 1 century! Biggest HTB of the generation.
But if you exclude all the countries other than Australia, he hasn't played any overseas testsHaters will say you hacked cricinfo website and edited Head’s Overseas record
He has played 41 innings outside of Aus, and 45 in Aus but 41 innings is a small sample...agenda is clear.
And what has Head done in Asia? He has a grand total of 1 100 away from Australia in 41 innings and that was on a neutral venue on a flat track vs an Indian attack minus Bumrah lol..Head has not even managed to statpad outside of his beloved Aus pitches. HTB of the highest order. There is a debate to be had in T20Is and maybe even in ODIs (although Babar's body of work is much bigger) but in tests, Babar is ahead without question.
But Head averages 32 away from home
Hoping Babar scores a ton in SA to further distance himself from HTB Head.
Head is vulnerable against spinners but I'll take head over Babar Azam in all formats .But Head averages 32 away from home
Buzzwords don't mean much, how many matches has Travis head won outside of his phattas in Aus? Why does he have only 1 100 in 41 innings away from Aus? Is he an immortal Tory match winner only in Sydney? It's incredible that apart from beating Shardul Thakur on a flat Oval pitch, he has no centuries outside of Australia. 1 century in 41 innings is shocking. I never realised he was that big of a FTB/HTB.
Looks like Head gets very afraid when he faces bowlers in their own den.
Stop bringing Rizwan is every thread.
Head comparison is with stat paddler Babar Azam who is Even worse than him.
Has Travis Head played any match winning knock in Asia? Vs England in England? vs NZ in NZ? Why the double standards? If Head is so great why does he average 32 over a 41 innings sample size outside of Aus with 1 century (and even that was a neutral venue, not against a team in their den)? Those are tailender stats.
No need to put neutral there, away matches are played in oppositions home, neutral matches shouldn’t be included.Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPNcricinfo.com
Putting here for people to check this HTB record.
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22 tests outside of Australia, averages 32.9 with 1 century! Biggest HTB of the generation.
They have no answers. Deflect, lie and personal attacks. If everything else fails, quote movies.
Yes, hence why I said outside of Aus, purely away from home he doesn't even average 30. Shameful stats but apparently he is Tory or something.
Head WTC final knock>> babar Azam performance outside the subcontinent .
