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Babar Azam vs Travis Head - Who is the better batter in all formats?

Who is the better ODI batter?

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jeeteshssaxena said:
Lol this 31 year old Buddha who doesn't even have 4000 runs in test cricket yet, not a single double hundred in tests and averages 28 away from home is in the list with 22 and 23 year olds, all of whom will be bigger names.

Nasser Hussain should retire from commentary, he looks done.

Jaiswal has 1800 runs i 19 tests, Brook is the Viv richards of this generation, even Saim Ayub will do better than Head when he matures.


The best young talents in the world are:

Brook
Jaiswal
Rachin
Saim
Kamindu
Sediqullah Atal
Rahmanullah Gurbaz ( if he is actually 23 and not 27)

Its not just based on stats but on talent and ability. Guys like Stubbs, Gill can make it to if they improve.
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This 31 year old budda is the reason India lacks a wtc and a wc and a bgt in 2023 and 2024
 
heddie19 said:
tu kis duniya mai jeeta hai? Go watch how Nas has been singing songs for RizBar since '21
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Why do you think we’re even mentioning Nas?

We all know Nas has praised RizBar, but why aren’t they good enough to be in his fab 4? Since Babar is the greatest cricket of his generation?
 
I rate Travis Head a bit below Gambhir, he will never touch the highs of Gambhir in test cricket but is a good clutch batsman like Gambhir in Odis.

Gambhir became the number one test batsman when the likes of Sachin,Dravid, Ponting,Yousuf, Younis, Clarke, Sangakkara, Jayawardene, Kallis etc

Apart from that Gautam Gambhir averages 43 away from home , head averages 29.

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In Odis, Gambhir won his team the ODI world cup with clutch knock in final, he also won us a t20 world cup which Head is yet to achieve. Not much time left for Head though, he won't be anywhere near the aussie side after 2.5 years.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
I rate Travis Head a bit below Gambhir, he will never touch the highs of Gambhir in test cricket but is a good clutch batsman like Gambhir in Odis.

Gambhir became the number one test batsman when the likes of Sachin,Dravid, Ponting,Yousuf, Younis, Clarke, Sangakkara, Jayawardene, Kallis etc

Apart from that Gautam Gambhir averages 43 away from home , head averages 29.

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In Odis, Gambhir won his team the ODI world cup with clutch knock in final, he also won us a t20 world cup which Head is yet to achieve. Not much time left for Head though, he won't be anywhere near the aussie side after 2.5 years.
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He'll be robbing India of another cup in 2.5 years 🤣
 
58 matches done. Babar at no point touched 50 plus average which you expect to do if he is considered the best the country ever produced (atleast according to some). Closest he came was 49.25 after 46 tests in 2022. Since that point his average has declined to 43.32. That is as steep as Kohli's decline. In a matter of 15 tests he dropped 6 points.
 
Golu-momin said:
i haven’t seen such a blind fan in only parallel universe babar even in dreams comparable to head in reality babar azam cant buy run against even usa, I will choose pat cumins ,Rabada , Bumrah as batsman over this fraud player zero talent only ballon of hype
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Did I ask you what you'd choose? lol :D
 
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mominsaigol said:
Mitch Marsh achieved more than Sachin Tendulkar. That doesn't make Marsh better than Sachin.

No he did not. Sachin is the first person in history to score an odi 200, followed by the fact that he basically knocked Pakistan into next week in 2003 wc semi final against an all star attack.

Those 2 innings alone are > Anything Marsh has ever achieved. Marsh's biggest achievement is NZ final lol.
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But does Sachin have 2 WCs? 1 T20 WC? 1 WTC?
 
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heddie19 said:
When you can't compete individually, you bring what one has achieved. Babar achieved more in 2 years than Travis in his entire career. If you're talking about team's glory, Mitch Marsh achieved more than Sachin Tendulkar. That doesn't make Marsh better than Sachin.
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Person you are responding to once made the argument that "current" = "recent" and that Brad Hodge was a wicket keeper. Is it worth to debate with someone like this? We can discuss with honest people, not with dishonest trolls who ignore that Travis is a HTB/EPB (easy pitch bully)...in latest India series he failed whenever he had to bat early and hit tons when openers played a lot of balls. He is an absolute fraud and a hack and his 29 average away from his doctored Aussie pitches shows his true value. Babar is going through a rough patch right now and he still did more in SA than anything this useless HTB has done away from home. If team achievements are everything then Mitch Marsh is better than Waqar Younis lol.
 
mominsaigol said:
Mitch Marsh achieved more than Sachin Tendulkar. That doesn't make Marsh better than Sachin.

No he did not. Sachin is the first person in history to score an odi 200, followed by the fact that he basically knocked Pakistan into next week in 2003 wc semi final against an all star attack.

Those 2 innings alone are > Anything Marsh has ever achieved. Marsh's biggest achievement is NZ final lol.
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Sachin never played a WC semi in 2003 vs Pakistan.
 
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Rana said:
I’ll say it again, Asif Ali as T20 captain. Any day over guys who don’t even make the T20 sides. Especially those two frauds who you glorify!

I’ll say it again and again! With absolute conviction and clarity of mind. With absolute responsibility and honesty in what I think is the right way to approach the game!

Since you have nothing else to say to me besides this, I will remind you that your King lost to Yoooo Essss Aaaay. Remember that!


Yooo.

Esss.

Aaaay

What’s that? The United States of America. Yes, Babar Azam was the captain who delivered that monumental humiliation to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Found in 1947.

God Bless America

God Bless Freedom!
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Asif Ali? What a joke. This is pure trolling at this point. It is one thing to criticize Rizwan and Babar and another to make hype this clown Asif Ali who is a tailender and say he should be captain of Pak team.
 
mominsaigol said:
This is why pakistani posters irritate me more then Indian posters.

Indian posters overglorify their players however if you remove that overglorification their players are still good players.

Laxman, Ashwin, Jadeja, Dhoni, And many others are not what they are built up to be, However they are still good players that would walk into most playing 11's. Their isnt a single team that would deny Dhoni, ashwin or laxman etc etc entry unless their competition is the likes of gilly or Warne etc.

Pakistani posters overglorify bang avg players that would sit on the bench of any top quality team.

Babar has a non existent backfoot, A mental midget mentality that can't score under pressure, Zero concept of rr maintainence, a severe lack of lofted strokes, a severe lack of unorthodox strokes which most aussies and English players have mastered, no sweep shot or cut shot against spinners etc etc.

All he has are nudges to take singles and that cover drive and that's it.
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Babar doesn't play cut shots against the spinners???.

Are you sure you've watched him play.:ROFLMAO:
 
This is Babar Azam's home record. In 5 matches average drops by 20 points. This could go further down.

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mominsaigol said:
Mitch Marsh achieved more than Sachin Tendulkar. That doesn't make Marsh better than Sachin.

No he did not. Sachin is the first person in history to score an odi 200, followed by the fact that he basically knocked Pakistan into next week in 2003 wc semi final against an all star attack.

Those 2 innings alone are > Anything Marsh has ever achieved. Marsh's biggest achievement is NZ final lol.
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followed by the fact that he basically knocked Pakistan into next week in 2003 wc semi final against an all star attack.

You must of been playing Pakistan v india on your PlayStation. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Are you sure your not an undercover indian fan boy???.
 
mominsaigol said:
He can play any shot. In the same way he's played sweep shots against spin before. Doesn't mean he's good at it.

He has a horrible backfoot. Not a natural player of that stroke.
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There s a significant difference being good at a shot and claiming he cant play it.

I hope you can understand the difference between the two.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
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followed by the fact that he basically knocked Pakistan into next week in 2003 wc semi final against an all star attack.

You must of been playing Pakistan v india on your PlayStation. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Are you sure your not an undercover indian fan boy???.
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He destroyed Pakistan.

Indians overrate that innings because they act like he won the game when the middle order still had to form a partnership to get India over the line.

However Sachin's innings ensured India had no way to losing. Unless a freak collapse happened, sachin's innings had done the job for his team. In the same way Warner and Marsh didn't bat for the full 50 overs against pakistan in the world cup however their collective hundreds ensured pakistan were cooked irrespective of how well the middle order played
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
There s a significant difference being good at a shot and claiming he cant play it.

I hope you can understand the difference between the two.
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No their isn't. It's just you're taking it way too literally. For example @Rana has frequently talked about how rizwan can't play shots on the offside or can't play lofted strokes.

He doesn't literally mean that rizwan doesn't possess the means. Rizzu has played offside strokes via jabs before and he's obviously hit sixes in his career.

However rizzu isn't a natural. He's god awful on the offside and any delivery that pitches their rizzu is clueless 90% of the time on how to play it. Same with lofted strokes. He isn't a natural.

Not everything is meant to be taken literally and at full face value. If I say I'm dying of laughter it doesn't mean I'm actually dying of laughter.

You're a grown boy, you should have known that can't in this instance is obviously referring to being very poor at it and not literally can't as if he's physically incapable.
 
Mamoon said:
About time he starts charging for the comedy he provides. He needs to monetize his clown show.
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I think the market is too tough with Javed Afridi’s franchise and the clowns he has on his payroll to run his agenda unfortunately.
 
mominsaigol said:
He destroyed Pakistan.

Indians overrate that innings because they act like he won the game when the middle order still had to form a partnership to get India over the line.

However Sachin's innings ensured India had no way to losing. Unless a freak collapse happened, sachin's innings had done the job for his team. In the same way Warner and Marsh didn't bat for the full 50 overs against pakistan in the world cup however their collective hundreds ensured pakistan were cooked irrespective of how well the middle order played
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There was no WC semi knock in 2003.

You made it up.

The was a group stage game in which Abdul razzaq dropped a sitter at mid off when ten was on 0 off Wasim.

Pakistan have always games away against india rather than them winning because of something spectacular.

Your boy Ten is the ultimate stat padder.💯 facts.
 
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Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
The was a group stage game in which Abdul razzaq dropped a sitter at mid off when ten was on 0 off Wasim
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What?

That wasn’t a sitter. Wasim brought Razzaq up from the edge of the circle to invite the lofted shot off a length. Tendulkar was ready to take it on and didn’t get enough height on that shot, whee Razzaq reached but couldn’t hold on.

A sitter is what Usama Mir dropped off Warner in the 2023 World Cup. Stop making up your own covid 19 definitions to cricket.
 
mominsaigol said:
No their isn't. It's just you're taking it way too literally. For example @Rana has frequently talked about how rizwan can't play shots on the offside or can't play lofted strokes.

He doesn't literally mean that rizwan doesn't possess the means. Rizzu has played offside strokes via jabs before and he's obviously hit sixes in his career.

However rizzu isn't a natural. He's god awful on the offside and any delivery that pitches their rizzu is clueless 90% of the time on how to play it. Same with lofted strokes. He isn't a natural.

Not everything is meant to be taken literally and at full face value. If I say I'm dying of laughter it doesn't mean I'm actually dying of laughter.

You're a grown boy, you should have known that can't in this instance is obviously referring to being very poor at it and not literally can't as if he's physically incapable.
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This is irrelevant and makes zero sense.

Every player has strengths and weaknesses.

Your a grown up boy who claims to know about cricket yet come up with petit ways to malign players like Babar and Riz with random stuff to make yourself feel better.

The facts are both Riz and Babar have been phenomenal on the world stage and are highly respected by their peers both home and abroad as well as supporters.

No amount of hate from you and your boys can change that.
 
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THIS THREAD IS ABOUT BABAR AZAM AND TRAVIS HEAD. PLEASE STAY ON THE TOPIC AND NO PERSONAL ATTACKS.
 
You guys really need to watch what you are posting here on this forum. These kinds of posts are unacceptable. please watch your language now
 
The simple fact is Travis Head is a pure home bully and a hack - a tullaybaaz who averages 29 in the opposition's den - this is what we expect Yasir Shah to average. He is useless when he actually has to do something in difficult conditions with the openers having fallen early - this explains his pathetic average away from home. The WC 100 on a doctored Indian pitch that spectacularly backfired on India means nothing. Anybody would have won Aus that game under lights chasing 240. India tried to be too cute with the pitch. On a normal track that did not change over 100 overs, Aus would have likely lost just like in the T20 WC where the tullaybaaz Head could not get Aus over the line despite some hacks. Head is what we call a railu kattta. Babar is a classy batsman not in great form.
 
Rana said:
The champ of all champs

RizwanT20 champ

And guys like Gazza love his posts.
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I've ignored him and haven't spoken to him for more then a month now. But I do know he has been pinging me here and their, some people have told me.

His biggest gripe is that Travis is a htb because he avg 29 away in test cricket. That argument is fair and I don't disagree. Travis head is a certified home track bully in test cricket.

However Babar isn't even a HTB. Without ramiz raja, Babar is a 24 to 30Avg test batter depending on form with his peak form being 30 avg. Away Babar has only 1 century in SENA.

Travis walking away with a 51avg in BGT is > Babar's entire career. Heck that 137 in a final is > Bobby whole career.

Atm Travis is > Everyone but the people who is genuinely believe will surpass him in the future are as follows

1) Brooks (100%)

2) Jaiswal and Saim (In run tally and century tally, but I'm not sure if they'll actually surpass him in impact and match wins)

As for the rest, nothing concrete as of yet. I don't believe rachin ravindra will surpass him.

When it comes to Babar, Hell no, Bobby is a shai hope level odi player and an Asad shafiq level test player.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
There was no WC semi knock in 2003.

You made it up.

The was a group stage game in which Abdul razzaq dropped a sitter at mid off when ten was on 0 off Wasim.

Pakistan have always games away against india rather than them winning because of something spectacular.

Your boy Ten is the ultimate stat
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mominsaigol said:
I've ignored him and haven't spoken to him for more then a month now. But I do know he has been pinging me here and their, some people have told me.

His biggest gripe is that Travis is a htb because he avg 29 away in test cricket. That argument is fair and I don't disagree. Travis head is a certified home track bully in test cricket.

However Babar isn't even a HTB. Without ramiz raja, Babar is a 24 to 30Avg test batter depending on form with his peak form being 30 avg. Away Babar has only 1 century in SENA.

Travis walking away with a 51avg in BGT is > Babar's entire career. Heck that 137 in a final is > Bobby whole career.

Atm Travis is > Everyone but the people who is genuinely believe will surpass him in the future are as follows

1) Brooks (100%)

2) Jaiswal and Saim (In run tally and century tally, but I'm not sure if they'll actually surpass him in impact and match wins)

As for the rest, nothing concrete as of yet. I don't believe rachin ravindra will surpass him.

When it comes to Babar, Hell no, Bobby is a shai hope level odi player and an Asad shafiq level test player.
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Impact wise travis head is now top batsman and overall most impactful player is bumrah but you can’t argue with those people who thinks rizwan is goat in t20 and babar azam is generational talent may while both are harmless player and won’t make playing even 2nd playing 11 of Australia,England,india,South africa heck even every pakistani famous youtuber don’t consider than match winner.
 
Golu-momin said:
Impact wise travis head is now top batsman and overall most impactful player is bumrah but you can’t argue with those people who thinks rizwan is goat in t20 and babar azam is generational talent may while both are harmless player and won’t make playing even 2nd playing 11 of Australia,England,india,South africa heck even every pakistani famous youtuber don’t consider than match winner.
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Travis head has just been spanking indian attack which is why he is a GOAT for you. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: .
You've forgotten about the hapless 2nd X1 players 152-0 :rizthumbsup :bobs.

What does that say about your team :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.


BarRiz are respected the cricket world over.
 
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Golu-momin said:
Impact wise travis head is now top batsman and overall most impactful player is bumrah but you can’t argue with those people who thinks rizwan is goat in t20 and babar azam is generational talent may while both are harmless player and won’t make playing even 2nd playing 11 of Australia,England,india,South africa heck even every pakistani famous youtuber don’t consider than match winner.
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Travis Head the GOAT versus india in Tests. 15 matches 1163 runs Average 46.52

Travis Head v Pakistan in Tests. 10 matches 295 runs Average 22.69
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
Travis Head the GOAT versus india in Tests. 15 matches 1163 runs Average 46.52

Travis Head v Pakistan in Tests. 10 matches 295 runs Average 22.69
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These stats are as irrelevant as Major arguing why Misbah is > Inzi because he performed better in icc tournament.

You can argue that Warner is > Travis but you can't argue babar is > Travis since the gulf in talent between these 2 is enormous.

Having more centuries, more runs and a higher avg then someone doesn't mean you are superior to a certain player. For example Sanath jaysuria has a lower avg then dilshan and dilshan has 22 centuries while haysuria has 28 even though dilshan played 100 less games then sanath.

On paper dilshan is >, However no one, not a single soul who has watched these 2 bat would argue dilshan > Santh Jaysuria. @Rana can explain this better then I can.

Had Travis head bashed a side like Nepal, then you can argue he's below babar, however India thanks to bumrah is currently the best bowling lineup on the planet, followed by the fact that in 2023 due to them tampering pitches to suit their fabour they were bowling out sides for 30 to 40 scores and ending odi games in less then 50 minutes.

They demolished sa and sri lanka. The pitch for the final was by far the most difficult pitch in the world cup for batting.

Scoring 137 in a final on such a pitch against a side that's bundled out sa for 39 in a more batting friendly pitch is >>>>>> Anything that Babar can possibly achieve in odi.

Similarly avg 51 in BGT on home soil vs India is >>> Babar's test career who currently is so bad that he got dropped againat England and on his return has not amounted to anything in said format.

And less said about t20 the better.
 
mominsaigol said:
On paper dilshan is >, However no one, not a single soul who has watched these 2 bat would argue dilshan > Santh Jaysuria. @Rana can explain this better then I can.
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Let Shoaib Akhtar sab first tell us who’s better between Rizwan and Jaysuriya. He’s apparently watched cricket before Covid 19.
 
Rana said:
Let Shoaib Akhtar sab first tell us who’s better between Rizwan and Jaysuriya. He’s apparently watched cricket before Covid 19.
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Rana said:
Let Shoaib Akhtar sab first tell us who’s better between Rizwan and Jaysuriya. He’s apparently watched cricket before Covid 19.
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It's because they don't understand the difference between a player underachieving and a player genuinely being inferior to someone.

Inzimam is a dissapointment in world cups, in the same way de villers is a dissapointment in international t20 and Travis is a dissapointment in overseas tests.

However if any moron says Rizwan is > Inzi, De villers and Travis for these metrics then they've lost their marbles 🤣🤣.

The above 3 are God gifted talents. Inzi and de villers especially as those 2 are even a few notches and metrics >>> Head in terms of talent.

Babar and rizwan on the other hand are medicore players who benefitted from circumstances, certain pitches and certain attacks + played 1 to 2 good innings in their lifetime and then used marketing pr to get what they wish.
 
mominsaigol said:
It's because they don't understand the difference between a player underachieving and a player genuinely being inferior to someone.

Inzimam is a dissapointment in world cups, in the same way de villers is a dissapointment in international t20 and Travis is a dissapointment in overseas tests.

However if any moron says Rizwan is > Inzi, De villers and Travis for these metrics then they've lost their marbles 🤣🤣.

The above 3 are God gifted talents. Inzi and de villers especially as those 2 are even a few notches and metrics >>> Head in terms of talent.

Babar and rizwan on the other hand are medicore players who benefitted from circumstances, certain pitches and certain attacks + played 1 to 2 good innings in their lifetime and then used marketing pr to get what they wish.
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Wait for it,

“But but but rIzWaN kEePs WiCkEts ToO”
 
mominsaigol said:
These stats are as irrelevant as Major arguing why Misbah is > Inzi because he performed better in icc tournament.

You can argue that Warner is > Travis but you can't argue babar is > Travis since the gulf in talent between these 2 is enormous.

Having more centuries, more runs and a higher avg then someone doesn't mean you are superior to a certain player. For example Sanath jaysuria has a lower avg then dilshan and dilshan has 22 centuries while haysuria has 28 even though dilshan played 100 less games then sanath.

On paper dilshan is >, However no one, not a single soul who has watched these 2 bat would argue dilshan > Santh Jaysuria. @Rana can explain this better then I can.

Had Travis head bashed a side like Nepal, then you can argue he's below babar, however India thanks to bumrah is currently the best bowling lineup on the planet, followed by the fact that in 2023 due to them tampering pitches to suit their fabour they were bowling out sides for 30 to 40 scores and ending odi games in less then 50 minutes.

They demolished sa and sri lanka. The pitch for the final was by far the most difficult pitch in the world cup for batting.

Scoring 137 in a final on such a pitch against a side that's bundled out sa for 39 in a more batting friendly pitch is >>>>>> Anything that Babar can possibly achieve in odi.

Similarly avg 51 in BGT on home soil vs India is >>> Babar's test career who currently is so bad that he got dropped againat England and on his return has not amounted to anything in said format.

And less said about t20 the better.
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What is this Nepal myth your obsessed with.

Pakistan have played Nepal once in an ODI and Babar scored 5,500 runs against them. :ROFLMAO: :bobs:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: .

Your Words : Had Travis head bashed a side like Nepal, then you can argue he's below babar

You really 🚬 some high grade stuff.


Now back to the topic.

Your Words :however India thanks to bumrah is currently the best bowling lineup on the planet.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Its too early for April fools.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Head has only slaughtered an average indian attack.

One man with a questionable action doesn't change that.

Are you seriously telling me that indian attack was better than Cummings, Starc, Hazelwood, Boland and lyon.:srt

Think carefully before you answer.

Your credibility is already on shaky grounds.

Remember boucher with a 55 average and Ten s epic WC semi knock that never happened. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I asked you earlier and you failed to answer are you an indian fan in disguise???.:therock
 
Rana said:
Wait for it,

“But but but rIzWaN kEePs WiCkEts ToO”
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This whole best wk batsmen nonsense needs to stop.

I even made a thread that Pakistan historically has produced the most garbage keepers on the planet.

Brendon taylor from Zimbabwe is superior to every single keeper Pakistan has ever produced excluding hanif mohammad who

A) wasn't a full time keeper.

B) No one has seen him play and he's a 50's batsmen so it's irrelevant.

Besides the other keepers were makeshift while rizzu is a proper batsmen. He needs to be compared with proper batters if he's going to open full time and bat at no 4 full time.
 
mominsaigol said:
This whole best wk batsmen nonsense needs to stop.

I even made a thread that Pakistan historically has produced the most garbage keepers on the planet.

Brendon taylor from Zimbabwe is superior to every single keeper Pakistan has ever produced excluding hanif mohammad who

A) wasn't a full time keeper.

B) No one has seen him play and he's a 50's batsmen so it's irrelevant.

Besides the other keepers were makeshift while rizzu is a proper batsmen. He needs to be compared with proper batters if he's going to open full time and bat at no 4 full time.
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Bhai tu wait tou Kar, abhi Shoaib Akhtar Batai ga Rizzu Symonds ki keeping ussey Jaysuriya se Barra player banati hai!
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
What is this Nepal myth your obsessed with.

Pakistan have played Nepal once in an ODI and Babar scored 5,500 runs against them. :ROFLMAO: :bobs:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: .

Your Words : Had Travis head bashed a side like Nepal, then you can argue he's below babar

You really 🚬 some high grade stuff.


Now back to the topic.

Your Words :however India thanks to bumrah is currently the best bowling lineup on the planet.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Its too early for April fools.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Head has only slaughtered an average indian attack.

One man with a questionable action doesn't change that.

Are you seriously telling me that indian attack was better than Cummings, Starc, Hazelwood, Boland and lyon.:srt

Think carefully before you answer.

Your credibility is already on shaky grounds.

Remember boucher with a 55 average and Ten s epic WC semi knock that never happened. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

I asked you earlier and you failed to answer are you an indian fan in disguise???.:therock
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Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood are a better odi trio then shami, Bumrah and siraj however India was playing in tampered wickets in wc 2023 which made them the best.

Secondly boland doesn't even play odi, in terms of test, Travis bossed bumrah in BGT anytime bumrah was bowling with the old ball where everyone else struggled including Steve smith.

Bumrah only got rid of him with the new ball.

Lastly I was obviously excluding Australia's bowling attack you numbskull, Why would I talk about Australia's bowling attack when Travis head is Australian and doesn't have to face Cummins, stark, boland and hazlewood 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Obviously I was excluding them smh.
 
Rana said:
Let Shoaib Akhtar sab first tell us who’s better between Rizwan and Jaysuriya. He’s apparently watched cricket before Covid 19.
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San was all rounder and a srilankan great he was a top top player.

An ODI great who I rate above :sachin for Two reasons he was one of the Pioneers along with Saeed Anwar of dominating the powerplay overs and he was unselfish and not a stat padder like :sachin.


The Riz comparison makes no sense.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
San was all rounder and a srilankan great he was a top top player.

An ODI great who I rate above :sachin for Two reasons he was one of the Pioneers along with Saeed Anwar of dominating the powerplay overs and he was unselfish and not a stat padder like :sachin.


The Riz comparison makes no sense.
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Make the comparison as a T20 opener

I dare you.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
San was all rounder and a srilankan great he was a top top player.

An ODI great who I rate above :sachin for Two reasons he was one of the Pioneers along with Saeed Anwar of dominating the powerplay overs and he was unselfish and not a stat padder like :sachin.


The Riz comparison makes no sense.
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Pioneers? Viv Richards did it 2 decades before they came on the scene? Wdym Pioneers?
 
mominsaigol said:
Cummins, Starc, Hazlewood are a better odi trio then shami, Bumrah and siraj however India was playing in tampered wickets in wc 2023 which made them the best.

Secondly boland doesn't even play odi, in terms of test, Travis bossed bumrah in BGT anytime bumrah was bowling with the old ball where everyone else struggled including Steve smith.

Bumrah only got rid of him with the new ball.

Lastly I was obviously excluding Australia's bowling attack you numbskull, Why would I talk about Australia's bowling attack when Travis head is Australian and doesn't have to face Cummins, stark, boland and hazlewood 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Obviously I was excluding them smh.
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You numpty you said

Your Words :however India thanks to bumrah is currently the best bowling lineup on the planet.

Dont you read what you write or cant you comprehend the basics.

Making head a GOAT is one thing.

calling the indian attack the best on the planet is another.

Get your mate @Rana sab to help you to understand the difference.
 
Rana said:
What did they pioneer in the 50 over format? That’s what I am asking you?

Did they Pioneer it by asking the ICC to make the 50 over format?
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If you read the previous post fully you wouldnt ask silly questions.

Are thought you were watching pre covid???.

Are thought you claim to know cricket???.

Every one who followed the game for a length of time would know that.
 
Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH said:
If you read the previous post fully you wouldnt ask silly questions.

Are thought you were watching pre covid???.

Are thought you claim to know cricket???.

Every one who followed the game for a length of time would know that.
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Well, help me understand. Maybe I don’t know what they pioneered according to what you think they pioneered.

What did they pioneer? A pineapple?
 
Rana said:
Well, help me understand. Maybe I don’t know what they pioneered according to what you think they pioneered.

What did they pioneer? A pineapple?
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Its not my opinion its a well know fact in the cricket fraternity.

Perhaps your not as learned as you think you are in the sport.

It definitely wasn't a pineapple.

I cant help you more than that.
 
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