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What should be our game plan against Team India ?
Same as in this series I guess.
But, batters need to be better there. Top 4 has to fire.
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What should be our game plan against Team India ?
Stick to the same.What should be our game plan against Team India ?
First whitwash pakistan. Then plan for india series.What should be our game plan against Team India ?
What was Nahid's fastest delivery today?
Will you make any changes to the team? Go in with three pacers or replace Taskin with Taijul ?Same as in this series I guess.
But, batters need to be better there. Top 4 has to fire.
Am also not for just pace only guys.I don't think that's the general approach though. I am not a fan of blind pace merchants either. But the best thing about Nabid2is how he constantly kept it in the channel and also surprised the batters with the short rising stuff.
Seems Pakistan prepared a pitch tailor-made for him.
PrayWhat should be our game plan against Team India ?
Will you make any changes to the team? Go in with three pacers or replace Taskin with Taijul ?
Am also not for just pace only guys.
From the 4 attributes :
- Pace
- Bounce
- Swing
- Seam
You would need to display 2+ to be selected in an international squad
2.25 - you would get a lot of chances
2.5 - you are an automatic pic
2.75+ : the opposition is discussing you more than your team
3- you r special.
But 2 and below - you are solely conditions dependant.
take for eg a guy like arshdeep. Take away his LH factor (which is a rarity in indian cricket), he will not be an automatic pick in home series/Sc conditions - on a flat wicket and no overhead conditions, he is canon fodder.
What is promising with a guy like nahid is he was consistently probing at a length and asking questions all the tim with his pace.
if handled properly, with the right training guys like these lend a different dimension to their bowling attack.
With india- in last 2 years - i have not seen any attempt to introduce consistently any pace man -just the same 120 kmph kumar trundlers , day in and out... but however this time hope this changes and I am hopeful ofguys like Umraan getting more chances along with any young pacemen - come the home season.
So did Bangladesh. Hasan Mahmud and Nahid Rana are new to Tests and Taskin returned to Tests after 2 yearsPakistan played 3 new pacers.
Mir Hamza is an FC veteran (has 400+ FC wickets) but he is new to international cricket.
Arshdeep is not a red ball cricketer He couldn't even do well in county cricket He's flavor of the season in white ball cricket and credit to him he delivered when it mattered.Am also not for just pace only guys.
From the 4 attributes :
- Pace
- Bounce
- Swing
- Seam
You would need to display 2+ to be selected in an international squad
2.25 - you would get a lot of chances
2.5 - you are an automatic pic
2.75+ : the opposition is discussing you more than your team
3- you r special.
But 2 and below - you are solely conditions dependant.
take for eg a guy like arshdeep. Take away his LH factor (which is a rarity in indian cricket), he will not be an automatic pick in home series/Sc conditions - on a flat wicket and no overhead conditions, he is canon fodder.
What is promising with a guy like nahid is he was consistently probing at a length and asking questions all the tim with his pace.
if handled properly, with the right training guys like these lend a different dimension to their bowling attack.
With india- in last 2 years - i have not seen any attempt to introduce consistently any pace man -just the same 120 kmph kumar trundlers , day in and out... but however this time hope this changes and I am hopeful ofguys like Umraan getting more chances along with any young pacemen - come the home season.
I am not going to celebrate early only to be disappointed
I would drop Shanto as well and bring in Hridoy, even Drop Mominul against India as he avearages only 13 vs India and bring in Jaker. We need to keep playing four new youngsters and make them the next mushy liton etcI would almost keep it the same.
Maybe drop Shanto and get another batter.
Replace Hassan Mahmud with Shoriful.
That's about it.
I would drop Shanto as well and bring in Hridoy, even Drop Mominul against India as he avearages only 13 vs India and bring in Jaker. We need to keep playing four new youngsters and make them the next mushy liton etc
yes, i feel Akash deep shold be given chances - given the potential on display.Arshdeep is not a red ball cricketer He couldn't even do well in county cricket He's flavor of the season in white ball cricket and credit to him he delivered when it mattered.
I am impressed with Akash Deep from what I saw in the Eng series. He was accurate, pacey and seamy. He can also play the workhorse role while Bumrah can be used in short spells.
First whitwash pakistan. Then plan for india series.
Why are you derailing this thread? We are not here to discuss Indian cricket team selectionAm also not for just pace only guys.
From the 4 attributes :
- Pace
- Bounce
- Swing
- Seam
You would need to display 2+ to be selected in an international squad
2.25 - you would get a lot of chances
2.5 - you are an automatic pic
2.75+ : the opposition is discussing you more than your team
3- you r special.
But 2 and below - you are solely conditions dependant.
take for eg a guy like arshdeep. Take away his LH factor (which is a rarity in indian cricket), he will not be an automatic pick in home series/Sc conditions - on a flat wicket and no overhead conditions, he is canon fodder.
What is promising with a guy like nahid is he was consistently probing at a length and asking questions all the tim with his pace.
if handled properly, with the right training guys like these lend a different dimension to their bowling attack.
With india- in last 2 years - i have not seen any attempt to introduce consistently any pace man -just the same 120 kmph kumar trundlers , day in and out... but however this time hope this changes and I am hopeful ofguys like Umraan getting more chances along with any young pacemen - come the home season.
Will be any rain tomorrow?The fourth day's play of the second Test match has been called off due to rain. The first ball on the fifth day will be bowled at 09.45am PKT.
chance of morning thunderstorm, rest of the day looks ok but with the drainage system can we get enough overs to get a result thats the questionWill be any rain tomorrow?
In the morning session only. I believe around 40 overs of play will be possible tomorrow.Will be any rain tomorrow?
What about Rizwan for his 300 runs?Man of the series should be Miraz for 10 wickets and two fifties
A better english speaking lad. They've created an atmosphere we're everyone wants to be captain. It's terribleWho should replace our captain?
Yep, our think tank better take note of this and not be underprepared for their bowlers.I'm expecting a challenge from BD when they tour us later this year.
Accurate fast/fast medium bowlers , 2 quality spin allrounders - the bowling is exactly what you need in Indian conditions.
It's the batting that will likely cost BD in India.
But they'll offer a stiff challenge for sure.
Joe Root.A better english speaking lad. They've created an atmosphere we're everyone wants to be captain. It's terrible
Yeah Khurram took 6 wickets on PlayStationApart from Rizwan nobody has played well
Disappointed to see that
Is it raining in Rawalpindi now? Any resident here?
not just poke , expansive drives away from body ....Most of these batsmen's technique is incredibly poor even by Pak standards of the past. They do not cover the line off the ball outside off stump and just poke at deliveries aimlessly
What about Rizwan for his 300 runs?
Don’t understand why you are panicking?If there is play tomorrow BD needs to survive the first hour. I think conditions for the first hour will be same as yesterday and we should not bet for another recovery job like first inning.
If BD survives the first hour for down of 1 wicket max that's 30-40 runs. The target goes down below 100 and I don't think we will lose from that. Somehow rest of the team will manage 100 runs of 9 wickets
Don’t understand why you are panicking?
Had BD lost 1-2 wickets tonight and not scored 40 for no loss in 6-7 overs, then you could probably wonder what may or may not happen.
Pakistan can only win this Test if they go ultra aggressive and look for 10 wickets in 2 sessions, they will have to keep the field up…BD will always have scoring opportunities available to them and their lower order is in good form
RelaxAs you mentioned, the lower order has held up, but not the top order. We might add 16 runs tomorrow and then lose 6 wickets in quick succession. We could be 58/6, and this time, Liton and Mehedy might not be able to bail us out.
1-1 or 1-0Relax
It’s 2-0 Bangladesh
Totally consumed by fear which seems to have increased after Gillespie's appointment
I'm being 100% honest. Bangaldesh gifted those 6 wickets.One glaring aspect within this squad is lack of confidence among the players.
They seem to be losing from impossible situations.
Totally consumed by fear which seems to have increased after Gillespie's appointment
Not panicking just stating that first hour tomorrow would be crucial. If we are again 6 down for 20 odd runs(+the 42 we scored today) I don't see us recovering twiceDon’t understand why you are panicking?
Had BD lost 1-2 wickets tonight and not scored 40 for no loss in 6-7 overs, then you could probably wonder what may or may not happen.
Pakistan can only win this Test if they go ultra aggressive and look for 10 wickets in 2 sessions, they will have to keep the field up…BD will always have scoring opportunities available to them and their lower order is in good form
Amd the bowlers. That 26-6 was a fluke. Bangladesh threw their wickets away and in the 2nd innings their putting khurram in his place.Utterly embarrassing. Not in my worst nightmares did I think I'd see this happen.
Thanks Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Shan, Shafique and the PCB for putting us into such a situation.
Rana is like playing his third test, isn't it too early to say someone is toothlessAmd the bowlers. That 26-6 was a fluke. Bangladesh threw their wickets away and in the 2nd innings their putting khurram in his place.
Bro our bowlers are club level.
Khurram: Good line and length but woman cricketer speed lol so no tension.
Ali and mir hamza: Grandpa speed and horrible line and length
Shaheen has lost his pace, and naseem who was bowling well now also has a dad bod and sucks at bowling.
Rauf is pur best pacer now lmao , he's expensive cause dude is a toothless bowlers but you can see why he picks up the most wickets in t20 and odi, it's cause atleast he's quick and can get something.
All these other guys are slow as molasses.
Rana is basically a faster version of rauf, he's toothless but it doesn't matter, our batters can't handle anything 140 and above. Their reactions are slower then a 90 year old.
Not sure its true or not but showing 99% rain.
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Also I'm gonna say one thing. Despite my anger towards rizwan, he's the only batter who can read spin and can read pace.
He got out cause he has a horrible Offside game, but unlike the rest who can't even read spin and process pace 140 and >, Atleast rizwan can read it.
Saud cam read spin, he struggles with pace but is still better then the rest of the joke lot.
The ball was seaming around and no batsmen was willing to leave those deliveries. Every1 wants to play with 'intent' like England but with skill level of Zimbabwenot just poke , expansive drives away from body ....
As per Google: We'll see sunshine around 2 PM tomorrow. May be 2 hours will be needed to prepare the ground. Maximum 30 overs will be possible then.
Hopefully, we'll see sunshine much more sooner than Google predicted.
As per Google: We'll see sunshine around 2 PM tomorrow. May be 2 hours will be needed to prepare the ground. Maximum 30 overs will be possible then.
Hopefully, we'll see sunshine much more sooner than Google predicted.
Pakistan players have no fight left in them. BD will win even if only 20 overs of play is possibleIf 30 overs are possible, game should be a draw.
Pakistan can just bowl at negative lines and dry up runs.
Shaheen was the only one who could look Gillespie in the eye because he has the stature. Not surprising the australian coach got rid of him. Probably playing aussie macho head games in the dressing room now, unchallenged.
Pakistan should try to win.If 30 overs are possible, game should be a draw.
Pakistan can just bowl at negative lines and dry up runs.
Why do you have to compare with India in every post? Why not compare with Australia and try to become like them. They are the benchmark.The performance of the Pakistani team is a sad reflection of the quality of your domestic cricket and the quality of the players coming through the pipeline.
Where are our consistent 140 km/hr plus pacers in ODI and Test Cricket?
Where are our decent leg spinners, chinamen, off spin, left arm spinners in ODI and Test Cricket?
What are the performances of our Shaheen's, Emerging and U19 teams?
India is far ahead of Pakistan in all these areas and this is why they are number in rankings in all formats and are able to address any gaps in their international side immediately.
Pakistan has no short term fixes, the quality of local coaches in domestic cricket and academies is not good enough, the PCB should be looking to appoint foreign coaches at the domestic, shaheens, academies giving them full power, authority and tasking them with professionalizinguour grass roots within the next ten years. Sadly this will require a massive injection of funds which the PCB will likely not have
Prediction has changed a lot now. Mostly Rain is in the morning. There is a very good chance that we'll see some action around 12 PM.As per Google: We'll see sunshine around 2 PM tomorrow. May be 2 hours will be needed to prepare the ground. Maximum 30 overs will be possible then.
Hopefully, we'll see sunshine much more sooner than Google predicted.
Why do you have to compare with India in every post? Why not compare with Australia and try to become like them. They are the benchmark.
Prediction has changed a lot now. Mostly Rain is in the morning. There is a very good chance that we'll see some action around 12 PM.
It is, I like rana lol, ik for a fact he'll succeed where rauf failed, but talking about the present atmRana is like playing his third test, isn't it too early to say someone is toothless
Fr, this series has been very exciting and what was suppose to be a filler ended up becoming the final season of the soap opera "The demise of Pakistan test cricket ".Any news on current weather on the ground? This series was supposed to be a run of the mill series between BD and pakistan. The spirit that Bangladesh displayed after being down and out at various phases is refreshing. Bangladesh very rarely click in both innings. That has been their problem. Out here they made sure they didn't have to bat too long in the first test in the 2nd dig.
It seems the weather will be a lot better than expected.Any news on current weather on the ground? This series was supposed to be a run of the mill series between BD and pakistan. The spirit that Bangladesh displayed after being down and out at various phases is refreshing. Bangladesh very rarely click in both innings. That has been their problem. Out here they made sure they didn't have to bat too long in the first test in the 2nd dig.