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Bangladesh beat England by 34 runs in 2nd ODI

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Bangladesh team

Tamim Iqbal, Imrul Kayes, Sabbir Rahman, Mahmudullah, Mushfiqur Rahim†, Shakib Al Hasan, Nasir Hossain, Mosaddek Hossain, Mashrafe Mortaza*, Shafiul Islam, Taskin Ahmed

England team

JJ Roy, JM Vince, BM Duckett, JM Bairstow, BA Stokes, JC Buttler*†, MM Ali, CR Woakes, DJ Willey, AU Rashid, JT Ball
 
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Close call for England in previous game and Bangladesh accused of being chokers...
 
Any news on Bairstows fitness? Billings will get a shot if not you'd assume.
 
Bad luck - they replaced the regular spinner to increase the batting depth, now England will chase under lights. I think, Series is gone today - our best chance was to chase under light in Mirpur & we bolted that match.
 
MMHS said:
Bad luck - they replaced the regular spinner to increase the batting depth, now England will chase under lights. I think, Series is gone today - our best chance was to chase under light in Mirpur & we bolted that match.
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Won't it swing under lights though? Mash and Taskin might prefer that right?
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Won't it swing under lights though? Mash and Taskin might prefer that right?
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I dews heavy in Dhaka which results the spinners to skid on, therefore they become like medium pacers. Adil is a leggi, but it will be easy to play out finger spinners. More than Mash & Tas, I think Nazmul might get some help from early overs, but unless ENG is 2/3 down against new ball, <300 is not a safe total.
 
They are caught in between - batting depth helps chasing. Now, they can't go after, neither is able to accelerate.
 
Can any one confirm - are they playing on same surface or it's a new track?
 
It would be ideal for ENG to win the final 2 games, would make the gap a little narrower between Pak and BD in the rankings table
 
Fielding placements been spot on, both fielders have been adjusted into the position they were just before the catch was taken.
 
Come on Sabbir! Bangla Kohli needs to prove himself here. :kohli
 
This Mirpur wicket gets considerably easy to bat once the lights are turned on and dew starts coming in. England was lucky that the bad call in the 1st game didnt cost them. They have learned from that mistake and with so much batting strength anything less than 300 should be under par.
 
These two are actually relative. Mushi married Riad's younger sister.

They have been playing since school days - after marriage, I hear Mushi calling Riad "Bhai".
 
A steady partnership is going on though very early stage.

Bangladesh or Bangladeshis should not lose any hope here. Yes, winning the toss was vital but we lost and dew may come into the factor and Bangladesh missed a golden opportunity by losing a winning match. But at the end of the day it's a cricket match and it's a wonderful game of glorious uncertainty. Anything can happen, so wait for the opportunity to come. England is a mighty ODI side who has just beaten Pakistan very easily, but one should remember that Pakistan is a poor ODI unit and was ranked 9th. England is not an unbeatable side.Whatever the target Bangladesh set if Bangladesh bowl and field well Bangladesh has a chance to win here. Their body language should be good in the field.
 
MMHS said:
These two are actually relative. Mushi married Riad's younger sister.

They have been playing since school days - after marriage, I hear Mushi calling Riad "Bhai".
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Nope you are wrong. Mushfiq married Riyad's wife's younger sister. Mushfiq has always called Riyad bhai. Riyad was in the batch above Mushfiq, Shakib, Tamim in their junior days.
 
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Jake Ball seems to be enjoying ODI cricket so far! Another wicket for him.
 
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Dios said:
Nope you are wrong. Mushfiq married Riyad's wife's younger sister. Mushfiq has always called Riyad bhai. Riyad was in the batch above Mushfiq, Shakib, Tamim in their junior days.
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I see, so these are Bhaira. But, were not they are from same batch of BKSP?
 
Dios said:
Nope you are wrong. Mushfiq married Riyad's wife's younger sister. Mushfiq has always called Riyad bhai. Riyad was in the batch above Mushfiq, Shakib, Tamim in their junior days.
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Yes you are right.

Bangladesh again fell into the pray of short ball and the bhai bhai partnership which was going so well has been broken on the field.
 
Mainul said:
A steady partnership is going on though very early stage.

Bangladesh or Bangladeshis should not lose any hope here. Yes, winning the toss was vital but we lost and dew may come into the factor and Bangladesh missed a golden opportunity by losing a winning match. But at the end of the day it's a cricket match and it's a wonderful game of glorious uncertainty. Anything can happen, so wait for the opportunity to come. England is a mighty ODI side who has just beaten Pakistan very easily, but one should remember that Pakistan is a poor ODI unit and was ranked 9th. England is not an unbeatable side.Whatever the target Bangladesh set if Bangladesh bowl and field well Bangladesh has a chance to win here. Their body language should be good in the field.
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I think, still we'll need 275+ as there is no back-up spinner. This is a bit drier wicket, which should grip more than last wicket, but unless the asking is 6+, there is hardly any chance of putting pressure on English batting, which is listing Adil at 11.
 
Mahmadullah gamble actually worked this time,Mushi throws away a start utter useless as usual
 
Need to do better than the Aussies today:(

(And in the series :(:()
 
Hamzakhalid said:
Minnows remain Minnows.
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Listen buddy, I am reading lots of rubbish from you for last few days (apart from those couple of hours in Sakib-Kayes partnership), but, today not in the mood. Don't start something that's not healthy.
 
MMHS said:
Listen buddy, I am reading lots of rubbish from you for last few days (apart from those couple of hours in Sakib-Kayes partnership), but, today not in the mood. Don't start something that's not healthy.
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Too many lapses by Bangladesh in Batting and Fielding back my statement.
 
Hamzakhalid said:
Too many lapses by Bangladesh in Batting and Fielding back my statement.
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Stupid logic.

AUS is World champs & they will sweep the floor with your team with their B team, see what they are doing against SAF team without 3/4 or their starters. PAK dropped 7 catches against WI defending 339, just about 7 days back.
 
MMHS said:
Listen buddy, I am reading lots of rubbish from you for last few days (apart from those couple of hours in Sakib-Kayes partnership), but, today not in the mood. Don't start something that's not healthy.
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you can add him to your ignorelist. If you get irritated so easily.
 
ENG have pretty much won the series now, BD boys destroyed
 
pacesensation said:
you can add him to your ignorelist. If you get irritated so easily.
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I don't want to - in that case I'll have to add many. And, I don't get irritated easily. This guy don't have the balls to be consistent - went to AOWL in 3rd ODI against Afghans, then again in that partnership.

I understand banter, and if I start, & he'll learn how to get under skin, without doing nonsense. But, I don't respond to every one for a reason.
 
Bangladesh have a deep batting line today. Nasir was a good batter in the start of his career. Not followed him much lately. Is he still that good with the bat? [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
 
cricketerB94 said:
Bangladesh have a deep batting line today. Nasir was a good batter in the start of his career. Not followed him much lately. Is he still that good with the bat? [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
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Probably, they can bat out 50 overs, but still 150 more required to put pressure on England. Nasir is good accumulator, but not sure if he can blast out.
 
MMHS said:
Stupid logic.

AUS is World champs & they will sweep the floor with your team with their B team, see what they are doing against SAF team without 3/4 or their starters. PAK dropped 7 catches against WI defending 339, just about 7 days back.
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And Australia B team wouldn't sweep the floor with your team? English B team isn't doing too bad a job atm.
 
Hasan123 said:
And Australia B team wouldn't sweep the floor with your team? English B team isn't doing too bad a job atm.
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AUS C team might win 5-0, that's not the point. The point is, they are having a bad day in SAF & we are also having one.
 
MMHS said:
Probably, they can bat out 50 overs, but still 150 more required to put pressure on England. Nasir is good accumulator, but not sure if he can blast out.
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Then why is he coming so late in the order?
 
MMHS said:
AUS C team might win 5-0, that's not the point. The point is, they are having a bad day in SAF & we are also having one.
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I symphtise with Australia as it's difficult for them when there main bowlers aren't playing.

My point is Australian B team would beat Bangladesh as well so why you mocking Pakistan like Bangladesh is some elite team? Still haven't proven anything outside of Bangladesh.
 
cricketerB94 said:
Then why is he coming so late in the order?
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Where will he come? Today, team went with a predetermined thought of chasing, but Mash lost the toss & Josh called the bluff. In Asia, often it looks wise to bat first, but not in Mirpur.
 
MMHS said:
Where will he come? Today, team went with a predetermined thought of chasing, but Mash lost the toss & Josh called the bluff. In Asia, often it looks wise to bat first, but not in Mirpur.
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bhai, what are your views on sabbir ? He looks so talented but can't score consistently ? what is the reason ?
 
Hasan123 said:
I symphtise with Australia as it's difficult for them when there main bowlers aren't playing.

My point is Australian B team would beat Bangladesh as well so why you mocking Pakistan like Bangladesh is some elite team? Still haven't proven anything outside of Bangladesh.
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I have never mock any team ever, not even AFG for a loss. Win & loss are part of the game, but there is a ranking of teams, because some teams wins more & some losses more. It sounds cheap from PAK fans taking dig at BD team who is still behind ranking & lost the last bilateral 3-0. In ODI, what PAK has achieved out side home (Asia) in last 2/3 years? Last time both were knocked off WC in QF, outside Home.
 
MMHS said:
I have never mock any team ever, not even AFG for a loss. Win & loss are part of the game, but there is a ranking of teams, because some teams wins more & some losses more. It sounds cheap from PAK fans taking dig at BD team who is still behind ranking & lost the last bilateral 3-0. In ODI, what PAK has achieved out side home (Asia) in last 2/3 years? Last time both were knocked off WC in QF, outside Home.
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Bangladesh fans have taken plenty of cheap shots at Pakistan fans after having a bit of success.

Whilst we haven't achieved much in LO recently winning away in South Africa and India on the last tours thereis something impressive for a team ranked number 8 currently.

Would bangladesh beat these 2 sides away from home? Me thinks no.....
 
mz123 said:
bhai, what are your views on sabbir ? He looks so talented but can't score consistently ? what is the reason ?
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His defense is not good - gets away with chancy shots because of the wickets in ODI games these days. Sehwag was something like that, but he was one of the smartest cricketers ever - knew how to survive & cash on later. Also, Sabbir is not perfect enough to play the new ball.
 
MMHS said:
Where will he come? Today, team went with a predetermined thought of chasing, but Mash lost the toss & Josh called the bluff. In Asia, often it looks wise to bat first, but not in Mirpur.
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Maybe swap him with Mushfiq as he is struggling to score big but is good enough to slog a few in the end.
 
MMHS said:
His defense is not good - gets away with chancy shots because of the wickets in ODI games these days. Sehwag was something like that, but he was one of the smartest cricketers ever - knew how to survive & cash on later. Also, Sabbir is not perfect enough to play the new ball.
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your analysis is always amazing..... what do you think about taskin nowadays as he is leaking many runs ? is it because of his remodeled action or he is playing after a long time and will get better ?
 
Hasan123 said:
Bangladesh fans have taken plenty of cheap shots at Pakistan fans after having a bit of success.

Whilst we haven't achieved much in LO recently winning away in South Africa and India on the last tours thereis something impressive for a team ranked number 8 currently.

Would bangladesh beat these 2 sides away from home? Me thinks no.....
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BD fans, at least started the cheap shot before & after the 3-0 ODI series, mainly due to lack of recognition. It was very common that, for every loss BD fans & team will be taken to cleaners - that shouldn't have been the case after that WC QF, neither after that 3-0 series.

When PAK beat SAF & IND, it was ranked 5th or 6th, 3 years have passed since -now PAK is trying to keep nose above the relegation zone for WC qualifiers. If you still dream of those series, then Indians will tell that India won Asia Cup Football in 1952.......
 
Wasn't dressing room intervention on reviews banned by the ICC after a team watched a very quick replay and told the batsman what to do?
 
mz123 said:
your analysis is always amazing..... what do you think about taskin nowadays as he is leaking many runs ? is it because of his remodeled action or he is playing after a long time and will get better ?
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First - he was never that good. Unfortunately, he thinks he is better than what he is, hence try to bowl like Allen Donald.

Playing after long time does make bowlers a bit rusty, but I don't see much change in his action. Here, what he is trying is pacing out batsmen on a dead slow wicket - which 'll result in more embarrassment for him as the Poms are better players of raw pace.

He will not get better unless he adds skills to his bowling - but can protect himself from man handling, if he uses his head more. He lost his mind after being the only fast bowler in the history of a nation, but didn't back his talent with hard work. Still early days, may be Walshi can put some sense in him.
 
sadly bangladesh is still a minnow.....was expecting them to win but no chance..
 
cricketerB94 said:
Maybe swap him with Mushfiq as he is struggling to score big but is good enough to slog a few in the end.
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Mushi is a accumulator, won't serve in late overs.

One strategy BD follows, which is perfect for the team is consistent scoring rate. You'll notice that even for a total of 340, BD hardly scores more than 75 in any 10 overs slot. For that, more or less every player has similar SR (Sabbir is statistical anomaly, it'll come down to 80s in few more matches), but Mushi plays spinners best.

I think, in general the change I'll do is put Sakib at 5, Mossaddek at 4, Mushi at 6 & Mahmood at 7. However, Mahmood is technically one of the better players, therefore may be out side Asia, he can swap spot with Sabbir.

This line up is built to chase.
 
last_knight said:
Mosaddek has done an Akmal.
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He is not experienced enough to bat at 7. Can play all sorts of shots, but, he needs to bat at 4. Today is a bit different as not much difference between 210 & 225, but his best spot is 4.
 
MMHS said:
BD fans, at least started the cheap shot before & after the 3-0 ODI series, mainly due to lack of recognition. It was very common that, for every loss BD fans & team will be taken to cleaners - that shouldn't have been the case after that WC QF, neither after that 3-0 series.

When PAK beat SAF & IND, it was ranked 5th or 6th, 3 years have passed since -now PAK is trying to keep nose above the relegation zone for WC qualifiers. If you still dream of those series, then Indians will tell that India won Asia Cup Football in 1952.......
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Yes have cheap shots after your 1st series win vs us in years.

It doesn't matter where we was ranked. If Bangladesh achieved it they wouldn't stop talking about it even though they are in 6th place now.

Well were in 8th place atm, so we're over the target for reaching world cup qualification.
 
Hasan123 said:
Yes have cheap shots after your 1st series win vs us in years.

It doesn't matter where we was ranked. If Bangladesh achieved it they wouldn't stop talking about it even though they are in 6th place now.

Well were in 8th place atm, so we're over the target for reaching world cup qualification.
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There was no dig at PAK team (unless you don't understand banter) - it started when the credit was taken off.
 
May be, we can reach 245,but still 35 short to my liking - at least.
 
238 - still not bad from that situation. We'll have an early finish today :(
 
good fight back from Captain at least Ban have a chance here
 
Very ordinary from Bangladesh this.I thought they'd be running circles around the poms in ODIs but they got too ovverconfident tsk tsk.
 
MMHS said:
I have never mock any team ever, not even AFG for a loss. Win & loss are part of the game, but there is a ranking of teams, because some teams wins more & some losses more. It sounds cheap from PAK fans taking dig at BD team who is still behind ranking & lost the last bilateral 3-0. In ODI, what PAK has achieved out side home (Asia) in last 2/3 years? Last time both were knocked off WC in QF, outside Home.
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In last three years we won a series in SA
 
If dew doesn't become significant and BD take some early wickets they have a chance to defend this.
 
Slog said:
In last three years we won a series in SA
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See the irony - you are referring to a series win 3 years back, then people considers 3 Series win in 2015 as yesteryear.
 
No realistic chance, but one thing I would like to see today is the spinners taking pace off. Normally spinners operate at 85KPH, which will be sitting duck today. Need to bring it below 75 level, so that Pom batsmen need to wait for the ball & use their feet. Might back fire, but no difference between losing in 40 overs & 45 overs.
 
England three down now. Bangladesh needed early wickets with their score and they've got them.
 
Mash should try and bowl a long 7/8 over spell here. Take Shakib off.
 
I just hope Shafiul and Taskin don't ruin this fantastic effort.
 
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