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British Pakistanis, less successful compared to North American Pakistanis?

GentleMan said:
Because some people could not get into USA and had to settle for Spain, they are trying to vent their frustration and trying to make themselves feel good by pulling down the achievements of American Pakistanis.
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I didnt have any choice to settle anywhere. Otherwise would have chosen UK any day over racist and islamophobe USA, feel sorry for muslims there. No matter how good they do there, at the end of the day still terrorists in average american eyes.
 
Here are some highlights of American Pakistanis (who only comprise about 0.1% of the entire US population and began immigrating in the 80's/90's/early 2000's)

Predominant Presence in the Healthcare Workforce:

- There are more than 15,000 doctors practicing medicine in America who are from Pakistani decent. Pakistan is the fourth highest source of IMG (International Medical Graduate) doctors in the U.S.

- Pakistan is also the fourth highest source of foreign dentists licensed in the United States

Higher Income than the National Average:

The Mean and median incomes for Pakistani male full-time workers were US$59,310 and US$42,718 - respectively compared to the average male American full-time workers' mean and median incomes of US$56,724 and US$41,965 - respectively.

Higher in Education rates compared to other Heritage groups:

Compared to other heritage groups in the United States, Pakistani Americans tend to be better educated with 87.4% being at least a high school graduate and 60.9% holding a bachelors degree or higher professional degree.

Slightly higher rate of Poverty (However only for the state of New York):

As of the 2000 census, poverty rates for Pakistanis in relation to the total New York population were higher overall, with 9,417 (28%) of Pakistanis living in poverty, which is greater than the general New York City poverty rate of 21%

Presence in a wide range of Occupations:
The top 10 occupations in ascending order being; sales-related, managers and administrators, drivers and transportation workers, doctors, accountants and other financial specialists, computer software developers, scientists and quantitative analysts, engineers and architects, clerical and administrative staff, and teachers.

Source: Wikipedia Article, "Pakistani American" - Economics and Education
 
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Any country which was "sexy" enough for Lethalsami, has to be good. ;-)
 
LethalSami said:
Its Not a secret....we're better, cooler, sexier, richer, more educated when compared to those Brit-Paks who were forced to leave for Eng coz we need a place to build a dam :asif

but that dancing was lame and HARAM :moyo
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Most were in the army and came well before the dam. Once the dam was being built more came.
 
shan said:
I didnt have any choice to settle anywhere. Otherwise would have chosen UK any day over racist and islamophobe USA, feel sorry for muslims there. No matter how good they do there, at the end of the day still terrorists in average american eyes.
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Thank God, please don't come here, we don't need your types. You belong to UK :))
 
mani1 said:
Well lets say in the UK 30% are Bengali now that going sufficiently drop down the average per capita of the UK so now even though you are not doing better than say the indigenous you may still be doing better than the average.
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You missed my point totally. If average is very high to begin with then it hardly matters how we came up with average figure. 30% Bengali or Black or Hispanic is irrelevant if we already know that average is very high to begin with. Your point will be valid if average was a low figure.

Also, if other PPers are right about US Pakistani sending more money to Pakistan despite having less population then that's simply points to a fact that this group is doing better than other group financially. 30% black or Hispanic is irrelevant when you have one to one direct comparison.

If we already know that US Pakistani are more educated then it's not surprising that they earn more, send more money to Pakistan and spend less time in jails. These facts are not there due to 30% of population being black/Hispanic. These facts are direct result of different set of people coming to US as compared to UK. We have direct comparison so why even do round about comparison?
 
James said:
Have I misread this thread, or is it actually just dual nationality ethnic minorities trying to put one another down?

We're all human beings, get over yourselves.
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precisely, we are all human beings, therefore we need to put one another down.
 
Buffet said:
You missed my point totally. If average is very high to begin with then it hardly matters how we came up with average figure. 30% Bengali or Black or Hispanic is irrelevant if we already know that average is very high to begin with. Your point will be valid if average was a low figure.

Also, if other PPers are right about US Pakistani sending more money to Pakistan despite having less population then that's simply points to a fact that this group is doing better than other group financially. 30% black or Hispanic is irrelevant when you have one to one direct comparison.

If we already know that US Pakistani are more educated then it's not surprising that they earn more, send more money to Pakistan and spend less time in jails. These facts are not there due to 30% of population being black/Hispanic. These facts are direct result of different set of people coming to US as compared to UK. We have direct comparison so why even do round about comparison?
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US Pakistani poverty is almost 50% higher than the average they earn less per capita than the average.
 
mani1 said:
US Pakistani poverty is almost 50% higher than the average they earn less per capita than the average.
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Why you want to even compare how US Pakistani are doing with others in US when we already have direct comparison with UK Pakistani? Thread topic is UK Pakistani vs US Pakistani. IF we know for a fact that US Pakistani's are more educated, earn more, send more money to their family in Pakistan and spend less time in Jail then why do we need to compare them to any third group to decide? UK is very good place so it's not fault of country. Problem is mainly due to different set of people getting there.



Anyway, some one posted above,

Pak-Legend said:

Higher Income than the National Average:

The Mean and median incomes for Pakistani male full-time workers were US$59,310 and US$42,718 - respectively compared to the average male American full-time workers' mean and median incomes of US$56,724 and US$41,965 - respectively.


Source: Wikipedia Article, "Pakistani American" - Economics and Education
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Buffet said:
Some one posted above,


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It is obviously much easier in the US to do better than average considering 30% are Hispanic or Black.

"The per capita income of Pakistanis is lower than the average. The former amounts to $20,585 and the latter to $25,035.

We should also note that the 14.9% poverty ratio among American Pakistanis is higher than the average of 10.2%"

http://ir.ide.go.jp/dspace/bitstream.../1/196_oda.pdf

So the US Pak poverty ratio is almost 50% more than the national average.

here was the reply from a US Pak

Fair points but two main reasons for this disparity.

1. 65% of US Pakistanis are first generation, meaning they were born outside US and are recent immigrants and going through the adjustment process.

2. One third of US Pakistanis are into transportation/driver type jobs like cabbies etc. Obviously they represent the lower socioeconomic group in any society, thus affecting the numbers you mentioned.
 
LethalSami said:
Its Not a secret....we're better, cooler, sexier, richer, more educated when compared to those Brit-Paks :asif
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So it is settled.

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saadibaba said:
Proven false ??? :)) Whatever dude, go back to your hole in Spain and enjoy the unemployment and poor economy.....adios.
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Economy goes down and up all the time, this is temporary. But for American Pakistanis only hole left to go back is s*** hole they come from. Soon they will be put behind bars and sent back to Pakistan.
 
Buffet said:
Why you want to even compare how US Pakistani are doing with others in US when we already have direct comparison with UK Pakistani? Thread topic is UK Pakistani vs US Pakistani. IF we know for a fact that US Pakistani's are more educated, earn more, send more money to their family in Pakistan and spend less time in Jail then why do we need to compare them to any third group to decide?



Anyway, some one posted above,


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You do realize $20,585 is the average per capita of a US Pak that is barely over minimum wage in fact people get more than that in benefits here and the gdp per capita is a lot higher in the US than it is here in the UK.
 
mani1 said:
It is obviously much easier in the US to do better than average considering 30% are Hispanic or Black.
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Relevance to that figure? Who cares it's much easier or not. There is no need to look at anything round about way when you have one to one comparison.

You are not debating the point. Let's me duck out of this thread.
 
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mani1 said:
2. One third of US Pakistanis are into transportation/driver type jobs like cabbies etc. Obviously they represent the lower socioeconomic group in any society, thus affecting the numbers you mentioned.
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Let's look at the statistics for British Pakistanis in the labour force:

One in seven British Pakistanis works as a taxi driver, cab driver or chauffeur.

Pakistani men are most likely to work in the transport and logistics industry, most as cab drivers and taxi drivers.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/index.html?id=463

This doesn't include truck drivers, limousine drivers etc. either, which would pull up the numbers even higher.

Besides, you guys don't even have official statistics on the percentage of British Pakistanis working transportation jobs. :kami
 
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shan said:
Economy goes down and up all the time, this is temporary. But for American Pakistanis only hole left to go back is s*** hole they come from. Soon they will be put behind bars and sent back to Pakistan.
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:))) What a guy!
 
Buffet said:
Relevance to that figure? Who cares it's much easier or not. There is no need to look at anything round about way when you have one to one comparison.

You are not debating the point. Let's me duck out of this thread.
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How can you have one to one comparisons when they are two different Country's?
 
mani1 said:
US Pakistani poverty is almost 50% higher than the average they earn less per capita than the average.
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Wrong.

According to AACAJ report

Fifteen per cent of Pakistani-Americans fall below the poverty line – which happens to be the rate for the American population on the whole. Similarly, unemployment rates for the diaspora – 8 per cent (for those aged 16 and older) – reflect the rate for the total US population.

http://www.advancingjustice.org/pdf/Community_of_Contrast.pdf
 
Pak-Legend said:
Let's look at the statistics for British Pakistanis in the labour force:

One in seven British Pakistanis works as a taxi driver, cab driver or chauffeur.

Pakistani men are most likely to work in the transport and logistics industry, most as cab drivers and taxi drivers.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/index.html?id=463

This doesn't include truck drivers, limousine drivers etc. either, which would pull up the numbers even higher.

Besides, you guys don't even have official statistics on the percentage of British Pakistanis working transportation jobs. :kami
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All I got from that link is Public Sector Net Borrowing in February 2013 was £2.8 billion, £9.0 billion lower net borrowing than in February 2012.

Though I am not surprised at them figures some taxi drivers make well over a grand cabbing especially down London then they declare they only work 16 hours per week hence get they wage topped up free medication dental care etc housing benefit which down South is a lot.
So officially they are in poverty in reality they are at least middle class.
 
saadibaba said:
Wrong.

According to AACAJ report

Fifteen per cent of Pakistani-Americans fall below the poverty line – which happens to be the rate for the American population on the whole. Similarly, unemployment rates for the diaspora – 8 per cent (for those aged 16 and older) – reflect the rate for the total US population.

http://www.advancingjustice.org/pdf/Community_of_Contrast.pdf
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I got my info from an unbiased source not one promoting a cause show me an official government source.

http://ir.ide.go.jp/dspace/bitstream/2344/839/1/196_oda.pdf

Also even according to them figures the average poverty rate is 14% despite 30% being you know what.

That was your reply is that not the case any more?

Fair points but two main reasons for this disparity.

1. 65% of US Pakistanis are first generation, meaning they were born outside US and are recent immigrants and going through the adjustment process.

2. One third of US Pakistanis are into transportation/driver type jobs like cabbies etc. Obviously they represent the lower socioeconomic group in any society, thus affecting the numbers you mentioned.
 
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mani1 said:
I got my info from an unbiased source not one promoting a cause show me an official government source.

http://ir.ide.go.jp/dspace/bitstream/2344/839/1/196_oda.pdf

Also even according to them figures the average poverty rate is 14% despite 30% being you know what.

That was your reply is that not the case any more?

Fair points but two main reasons for this disparity.

1. 65% of US Pakistanis are first generation, meaning they were born outside US and are recent immigrants and going through the adjustment process.

2. One third of US Pakistanis are into transportation/driver type jobs like cabbies etc. Obviously they represent the lower socioeconomic group in any society, thus affecting the numbers you mentioned.
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The source I quoted is just fine, if it doesn't suit your agenda then I can't do much about it. Plus my source is from 2011 and yours from 2009.

Yes, those points I made still stand but you were quoting wrong figures. I'm not saying there is no poor US Paks, considering one third are drivers, 65% are recent immigrants etc. just not as bad as you were making out to be.
 
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saadibaba said:
The source I quoted is just fine, if it doesn't suit your agenda then I can't do much about it. Plus my source is from 2011 and yours from 2009.

Yes, those points I made still stand but you were quoting wrong figures. I'm not saying there is no poor US Paks, considering one third are drivers, 65% are recent immigrants etc. just not as bad as you were making out to be.
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I was making them out? Them stats are from an independent Japanese Government Institute of Developing Economies. I guess it must be a Japanese conspiracy what agenda do the Japanese have?

http://www.ide.go.jp/English/
 
Even in the link you posted the US Pak per capita was 24k in pounds that's around 15k is not very much more than minimum wage here and some get a lot more than that in benefits.
 
saadibaba said:
So are my stats part of some conspiracy.... Lol. I think you've lost it too.
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No your stats are from a group promoting Asians in America unlike my unbiased link.

Even in the link you posted the US Pak per capita was 24k in pounds that's around 15k is not very much more than minimum wage here and some get a lot more than that in benefits.
 
saadibaba said:
So are my stats part of some conspiracy.... Lol. I think you've lost it too.
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No you said it does not suit my agenda I posted independent link not one promoting the interests of a group
 
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mani1 said:
No you said it does not suit my agenda I posted independent link not one promoting the interests of a group
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So you should accept my stats which are mainly based on US census bureau, US dept. of Homeland security and US state dept. data and that org. has simply compiled them and not call them unreliable because it refutes your stats.
 
saadibaba said:
So you should accept my stats which are mainly based on US census bureau, US dept. of Homeland security and US state dept. data and that org. has simply compiled them and not call them unreliable because it refutes your stats.
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Even if I accept your stats the US Pakistani GDP per capita is around $24000 that is about £15 to £16k.

The average wage in the UK is £25000 the UK poverty is calculated at 60% of the average wage which would bring the poverty threshold to around £15k so if a Brit Pak earns the average per capita income of the US Pakistani he is hovering around the UK poverty levels.

And yes people make more in the UK than 16000 being on welfare especially down South.
 
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Heres one example

They're the family with the Mercedes in the drive getting £42,000 a year in benefits. Scroungers? AMANDA PLATELL meets them

The crack of dawn and my curious cabbie asks where I'm off to so early.
To meet the family of nine - with another baby on the way - who shocked the nation this week when it was revealed they were receiving £42,000 in benefits each year - and can afford to run two cars, a Mercedes station wagon and a people carrier.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-AMANDA-PLATELL-meets-them.html#ixzz2OQlhD0Tp
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James said:
Have I misread this thread, or is it actually just dual nationality ethnic minorities trying to put one another down?

We're all human beings, get over yourselves.
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U read right. ....

Absolutely shocking. .....
 
mani1 said:
Even if I accept your stats the US Pakistani GDP per capita is around $24000 that is about £15 to £16k.

The average wage in the UK is £25000 the UK poverty is calculated at 60% of the average wage which would bring the poverty threshold to around £15k so if a Brit Pak earns the average per capita income of the US Pakistani he is hovering around the UK poverty levels.

And yes people make more in the UK than 16000 being on welfare especially down South.
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Even if I accept your stats ?? these stats are per US census data and other govt. agencies.

Anyways, US Paks per capita income is about $24,700, compared to $27,100 for the total US population, not much different. UK per capita income is $27,700. Not much different from US per capita income (even though on Wiki and other sites US per capita income is around $48,000) You are comparing average wages to per capita income, totally different things.


Per capita income is the total national income divided by the number of people in the nation.

mani1 said:
Heres one example

They're the family with the Mercedes in the drive getting £42,000 a year in benefits. Scroungers? AMANDA PLATELL meets them

The crack of dawn and my curious cabbie asks where I'm off to so early.
To meet the family of nine - with another baby on the way - who shocked the nation this week when it was revealed they were receiving £42,000 in benefits each year - and can afford to run two cars, a Mercedes station wagon and a people carrier.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-AMANDA-PLATELL-meets-them.html#ixzz2OQlhD0Tp
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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All this proves is that some people in UK cheat, lie and scam the govt. not sure what it has to do with the stats unless you are telling me that majority of UK Paks cheat the govt. too.
 
shan said:
Economy goes down and up all the time, this is temporary. But for American Pakistanis only hole left to go back is s*** hole they come from. Soon they will be put behind bars and sent back to Pakistan.
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Do you even read what you type?
 
Of course! The differences are massive. Saying we have handful of Pakistanis represented in media or playing cricket doesn't change the fact that American Pakistanis enjoy a considerably high levels of living standards compare to British Pakistanis, who unlike Americans, have the support of welfare system. Asian communities' dependence and abuse of UK welfare system is a whole new different topic, so I won't even bother going there.

The vast majority of Brit Paks who are loudest in their all round US bashing, have never set a foot on the American soil to see and appreciate the progress American Paks have made. Statistics are very good at painting an overall picture but sometimes you have experience things yourself to actually feel the real difference and from my own experiences, I can tell you that the fact why you have number of Pakistani faces in media, sports etc doesn't not indicate that UK Pakistanis are more successful, if anything it just shows that UK is a lot more tolerate and accepting of Muslims than US.

Majority of US American already enjoy a greater sense of geographical mobility and social and economic progress, who is to say that in few years time, they won't be sharing success in politics or media? They certainly have a very strong foundation to build success, its just a matter of someone starting a trend an with WoT almost over, I can see attitudes in US relaxing to a huge degree with time.
 
One of the major weakness of British Pakistanis are that they are political so worked up and hold so much resentment against the country they are living in, they all come with a massive victim complex and with such attitudes and feelings, even the 7th generation of Brit Pakistanis won't enjoy the same level of success as American Paks. For example, Islamophobia is lot more apparent in US political circuit than over here, its the USA that's leading the force of destruction in many Muslim countries, its Fox news which has a clear anti Islamic agenda and openly and successfully spreads it. But how many American Pakistanis open thread after thread to wail over a crappy piece of anti Islamic reporting in Fox News - the most watched channel in the USA - and build a sense of vengeance inside them or paint a thoroughly hopeless, abused, miserable picture of themselves as a community? Now on the other hand, you see great deal of frustrated threads being opened to glorify anti Islamic gutter press of UK, many of the Brit PPers think that life is not worth living and world is coming to an end just because Daily Mail has released a bias report against Muslims. Then again you can also say that kudos to American Pakistanis for not giving Fox News reasons to attack and defame their Pakistani community while it leaves no corner uncovered to paint a horrible picture of Muslims and the Islamic world. Same thing cannot be said about Daily Mail while we have perfectly condone instances of poppy burning.

The life of American Pakistanis goes lot beyond crying and wailing about Fox News, they are a perfect representation of the example that actions speak louder than words. The Fox News may not like Muslims but if Pakistanis want an house in rich Jewish neighbourhood because it offers a safer environment and excellent schooling, they will go ahead and buy that house in that neighbourhood regardless of how Jews control the media or what the Jews are doing in Palestine.
 
I think it's great that US Pakistanis are doing so well. Hopefully we'll see that reflected in real life soon rather than in the virtual world. Most of them seem to have a far bigger voice online than they do on the street, a trait they seem to share with Indians. I think we all owe a debt to PakPassion for allowing US Paks an outlet to the world since most of them probably don't venture beyond the front doorstep in the good old US of A :)
 
Never knew American Pakistanis existed till PP came along . Of course American Pakistanis calling themselves Indian out of fear/shame didnt help.

Anyway about US Pakistanis sending more money per capita to Pakistan. Maybe they take into consideration that entire families especially from Mirpur emigrated to the UK. No reason to send money back.
 
Never knew American Pakistanis existed till PP came along . Of course American Pakistanis calling themselves Indian out of fear/shame didnt help.

Anyway about US Pakistanis sending more money per capita to Pakistan. Maybe they take into consideration that entire families especially from Mirpur emigrated to the UK. No reason to send money back.
 
Can't say much about what really is the situation outside this forum, because haven't lived, met or be friend with UK Pakistanis, unlike US Pakistanis. Strictly speaking of Pak Passion, I don't think most neutral will deny that US pak ppers seem as happy posters, there is just too much bitterness or some kind of sadness attached to few UK posters. Don't know why? Again, it's very small sample, and Of course there are exceptions, so can't draw out conclusion for whole population.
 
^ that is because of seasonal affective disorder.. it is well known how bad weather can cause some stress.
 
GentleMan said:
^ that is because of seasonal affective disorder.. it is well known how bad weather can cause some stress.
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I can tolerate english posters fairly well though. :23: They still post many happy posts. :james, :bigharvey :robert :malaikan :sampresami
 
Yeah look, I think it's unfair to label all British Pakistanis as such. But I won't lie, I feel posters like Cpt. Rishwat and KKWC, and threads on the Muslim Patrol or those grooming incidents certainly don't help the image. Most neutral posters here seem to agree.

But then at the same time you have British Pakistani posters like Endymion who are genuinely funny blokes, and of good value to the forum.
 
oh Endymion sahab is a BritPak?? If I had known I would have been more aggressive putting the BritPaks down.
 
Oxy'sWingMan said:
Yeah look, I think it's unfair to label all British Pakistanis as such. But I won't lie, I feel posters like Cpt. Rishwat and KKWC, and threads on the Muslim Patrol or those grooming incidents certainly don't help the image. Most neutral posters here seem to agree.

But then at the same time you have British Pakistani posters like Endymion who are genuinely funny blokes, and of good value to the forum.
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While I appreciate the compliment, I'm not British Pakitani nor American Pakistani nor Pakistani :yk
 
cricketworm said:
He is Belgian Pakistani if I am not mistaking.

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You're confusing me with Akher, I think.

Because I am
Not an Arab, nor Lahori
Neither Hindi, nor Nagauri
Hindu, Turk, nor Peshawari
Nor do I live in Nadaun

(Is that a Belgian poney or something? :D)
(I do speak Dutch but I am not from Holland either)
 
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Or Dutch? I think Dutch or Belgian. AkheR is belgian pakistani, well if he considers himself Pakistani. :23:
 
endymion248 said:
You're confusing me with Akher, I think.

Because I am
Not an Arab, nor Lahori
Neither Hindi, nor Nagauri
Hindu, Turk, nor Peshawari
Nor do I live in Nadaun

(Is that a Belgian poney or something? :D)
(I do speak Dutch but I am not from Holland either)
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Is your juta Japani?
Is your patloon Englishtani?
Do you have Red Hat from Russia?

If yes, then you are .... lol you know!
 
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Or Dutch? I think Dutch or Belgian. AkheR is belgian pakistani, well if he considers himself Pakistani. :23:
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Nee meneer, Nederland is niet he land waarvan ik ben. Niet als je denkt dat Duitsland is het zelfde land als Holland:p
 
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Endy knows Punjabi and knows Dutch, but he is not Lahori, so he is either Punjabi who grew up in Karachi, and live somewhere in Europe. #SpyEndy
 
cricketworm said:
Endy knows Punjabi and knows Dutch, but he is not Lahori, so he is either Punjabi who grew up in Karachi, and live somewhere in Europe. #SpyEndy
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Plot twist, he was born in Punjabi, adopted by a Karachi family who went on Ghaswa-e-Hindonesia where he learnt Dutch :yk
 
endymion is a top bloke I agree and among brit pak posters I like el raja most and Pakistanalltheway is a nice guy too
 
My fav BritPak posters are.........

:13:


Sorry cant think of anyone.
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
That's harsh on BritPaks.... They are being harassed despite being at a disadvantage. ...
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It's indeed actually unfair jibs at them, few good posters being dragged along unfairly, but you must admit that many posters just make people go "Argh! Move on already"!
 
cricketworm said:
Let's not hide anything then, are you from Germany? (Land Of Rawals) or some other secret Carrib. island where they speak Dutch. :23:
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Well, from now on, it's no land of Rawals but rather Land of Endymion :p

(BTW, we don't speak dutch in Germany, though they are as similar as Punjabi and Sindhi).
 
Oxy'sWingMan said:
Yeah look, I think it's unfair to label all British Pakistanis as such. But I won't lie, I feel posters like Cpt. Rishwat and KKWC, and threads on the Muslim Patrol or those grooming incidents certainly don't help the image. Most neutral posters here seem to agree.

But then at the same time you have British Pakistani posters like Endymion who are genuinely funny blokes, and of good value to the forum.
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I dont think you understand the genius of Cpt.
 
endymion248 said:
Well, from now on, it's no land of Rawals but rather Land of Endymion :p
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I had a feeling, German PPers are also very happy posters. :Dhoni183, :dhump

Anyway, it's going to take you decades to beat the legacy of Rawals! I mean they are thought to be legendary lovers. :EllysePerry Do you have any love story to share that can beat Rawals?
 
Btw. Aussy Pak. Ppers > British Pak. ppers too. : Poison :SaqibS :Kwremb Happy posters.
 
cricketworm said:
I had a feeling, German PPers are also very happy posters. :Dhoni183, :dhump

Anyway, it's going to take you decades to beat the legacy of Rawals! I mean they are thought to be legendary lovers. :EllysePerry Do you have any love story to share that can beat Rawals?
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Yes, it's a girl I dream about each week. I always knew she was my first love but I can never visualize her face . She's the Unseen Perry. :yk
 
Khan Ji, are you a BritPak? you are a very well mannered poster, you should have been in US.
 
GentleMan said:
Khan Ji, are you a BritPak? you are a very well mannered poster, you should have been in US.
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I am a BritPak...

I have been to the US once on business ... I was interrogated for an hour before being let in to NY!

Not sure if I can blame the AmPaks for that. ...?
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
I am a BritPak...

I have been to the US once on business ... I was interrogated for an hour before being let in to NY!

Not sure if I can blame the AmPaks for that. ...?
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yes, AmPaks are not to be blamed for that. there was some reports that Homeland security wanted BritPaks to apply for entry visa for US, but thankfully UK did not agree to that, because all British citizens have same rights.. but it does show the negative attitude Homeland Security has regarding BritPaks, and that would have been the reason.
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
I am a BritPak...

I have been to the US once on business ... I was interrogated for an hour before being let in to NY!

Not sure if I can blame the AmPaks for that. ...?
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Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi Yousef.
 
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