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England reach 239/6 in reply of Pakistan's first Innings total of 366 at stumps of Day 2 of the second Test

Aqib_mustafa said:
Bro what's your take on pak spinners they looked great bowled superbly?
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Sajid looks perfect for day 7 pitches like this as his deliveries doesn't bounce but skids through. When you combine with turn it is difficult to play on the backfoot. You will be forced to bat on the frontfoot which will bring many dismissals into play. Noman is okay for this pitch.
 
Amjid Javed said:
Pakistan still need to get through England's lower order yet, Smith is dangerman. So getting a 1st inns lead won't be easy.
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Lol sajid will not even let them score ten runs the way he is bowling you getting worried for no reason we knew bazball or england cant play turning ball.
 
Hellion said:
But this is a reused surface - same as the first Test ! That's unheard of. And it still looks a good batting wicket.
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Indian spinners would have bowled India out for under 250 (if not under 200). This a great wicket.
 
Could just sense that Pakistan was a wicket away from getting a few.

Good from the bowlers. We need to really take a big lead because their spinners will become Murali when we bat.
 
Stokes averaging 18 in his last 6 tests in Asia now.
And averaging 24 in Asia since 2020
 
I genuinely believe ranji team can beat pakistan at home and away anywhere anytime in Asia. Top ranji teams.
 
Pakistan took one of the biggest gamble with this pitch. Paid off albeit with a bit of luck with the toss.
 
Buffet said:
If that's the sole reason then just keep Babar away from test team. There shouldn't be flat roads just for keeping Babar's average high.
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Babar should play for East Pakistan. Useless trash can of a player.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Pakistan took one of the biggest gamble with this pitch. Paid off albeit with a bit of luck with the toss.
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Yea only toss lmao. If they lost the toss I am 100% sure they would be all out for 200 Max should they have batted second.

It's not over yet. If lead is only 50 then bucket cuckett and brook will blast 50 in 5 overs easily.
 
Great fight from Sajid. Really impressed. Hopefully England will be all out quickly, and Pakistan will have a lead in double digits.
 
If Shan loses this match match from this position, he should not be the captain for third test match
 
Excellent by Pakistan. A bit of turn and England collapsed.

Pakistan should look to get 100 run lead. Will be huge in the 2nd innings. Its going to be entertaining. Pakistan are clear favorites to win this Test.
 
Josh said:
If Shan loses this match match from this position, he should not be the captain for third test match
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It is hard to lose this match from here on. Same ring field just bowl Sajid non stop from one end in both innings.
 
Pakistan needs to get rid of tail quickly because Pakistan't track record in 3rd inning is not good. I can see Pakistan getting bowled out cheaply.
 
Buffet said:
Pakistan needs to get rid of tail quickly because Pakistan't track record in 3rd inning is not good. I can see Pakistan getting bowled out cheaply.
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Pakistan definitely need a good lead from 1st innings cause whatever Pakistan scores in 3rd innings England are going to exactly match that in their 4th.
 
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RidiculousMan said:
Pakistan definitely need a good lead from 1st innings cause whatever Pakistan scores in 3rd innings England are going to exactly match that in their 4th.
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Bro with the way sajid is bowling its pak match to loose now and dont forget pak got jamal at number 8 which is great for lower order runs what's your take on that?
 
Champ_Pal said:
Excellent by Pakistan. A bit of turn and England collapsed.

Pakistan should look to get 100 run lead. Will be huge in the 2nd innings. Its going to be entertaining. Pakistan are clear favorites to win this Test.
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Long way to go. Will it turn like the last session or flatten out again. As a pak fan I'm never confident from any position. England tail will frustrate them and their bowlers will bowl us out cheaply
 
ataullah said:
Long way to go. Will it turn like the last session or flatten out again. As a pak fan I'm never confident from any position. England tail will frustrate them and their bowlers will bowl us out cheaply
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It won't get better again for batting. If anything it will offer more purchase to spinners as the game goes on. Pakistan has army of spinners in their line up. ENgland has just 2 one being utterly mediocre.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
It won't get better again for batting. If anything it will offer more purchase to spinners as the game goes on. Pakistan has army of spinners in their line up. ENgland has just 2 one being utterly mediocre.
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Ya bro great point you made people here are getting nervous unnecessary they should know pak got 3 spinners and jamal batting at 8 even chasing 200 won't be easy for england
 
Aqib_mustafa said:
Bro with the way sajid is bowling its pak match to loose now and dont forget pak got jamal at number 8 which is great for lower order runs what's your take on that?
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That's what I'm saying. Pakistan might have 3rd innings collapse. That's why they need a lead here.

Yea Jamal is more than enough as a batter at no. 8. Good depth always helps in a Test match
 
ataullah said:
Long way to go. Will it turn like the last session or flatten out again. As a pak fan I'm never confident from any position. England tail will frustrate them and their bowlers will bowl us out cheaply
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If it is turning on Day-2 the way it did in the final hour of the play, I doubt it will flatten on Day-3 and 4.

Pakistan should look for a 100 run lead. That will be too much for England to overcome in their 2nd innings.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Pakistan definitely need a good lead from 1st innings cause whatever Pakistan scores in 3rd innings England are going to exactly match that in their 4th.
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Yah, keep the lead signifiant otherwise one of the Eng batsmen can play fluke inning to get the total even on turning tracks. 170 can be chased by just one batsman scoring 70-80 runs. Let it be 275-300 runs and it becomes very hard.
 
mazkhan said:
Because our batsmen are worse than England playing spin.

This games not over let's see how we bat in 2nd inns on this pitch
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Let’s be clear- your batters cannot win you matches on any kind of surfaces, but you prepare such pitches atleast your bowlers can.
 
Realistically hosts should aim for getting a 50-55 run lead & then aim to bat for 70-75 overs & tomorrow & get to 250 or more . Switched off at 210/2 so have no clue how the next 4 dismissals came ... any highlights of fall o wickets of ENG folks ?
 
Some of the balls are staying low so try Jamal first thing tomorrow morning for few overs and ask him to bowl wicket to wicket.
 
and hopefully Sajid from the other end will continue to do his magic.
 
On a pitch which in theory will get worse, you need to be positive and score runs. Most of our batsmen just block and them either throw it away or get out to a good ball.

We saw in Bangladesh test how games were thrown away with poor 2nd inns batting
 
Amjid Javed said:
On a pitch which in theory will get worse, you need to be positive and score runs. Most of our batsmen just block and them either throw it away or get out to a good ball.

We saw in Bangladesh test how games were thrown away with poor 2nd inns batting
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Which target is par in your opinion on this pitch 100k buddy- be realistic , not pessimist ? c @Asad T @BouncerGuy @Rana @Mamoon @FearlessRoar
 
Which batsmen are skilled at playing spin, and which spinners are part of England's squad?
 
Ben Duckett: They didn't make it easy for us

England's Ben Duckett, speaking to Sky Sports after his 114:

"Obviously I'm happy with how I played, but it would have been nice to be going back out tomorrow - maybe having lost a couple of wickets less.

"But credit to them, I thought they bowled so well throughout that whole innings.

"I felt like that can be a period where they drop off and you can gets some runs at the back end of the day... but they didn't make it easy for us. They bowled well; they were right at us till the end of the day and they got their rewards.

"In a situation like this, if we can win that first hour tomorrow, get as close as we can to their score, we can try to make it a one-innings match."
 
The Bald Eagle said:
Ben Duckett: They didn't make it easy for us

England's Ben Duckett, speaking to Sky Sports after his 114:

"Obviously I'm happy with how I played, but it would have been nice to be going back out tomorrow - maybe having lost a couple of wickets less.

"But credit to them, I thought they bowled so well throughout that whole innings.

"I felt like that can be a period where they drop off and you can gets some runs at the back end of the day... but they didn't make it easy for us. They bowled well; they were right at us till the end of the day and they got their rewards.

"In a situation like this, if we can win that first hour tomorrow, get as close as we can to their score, we can try to make it a one-innings match."
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FoW highlights touh post karo biradar !!!
 
Well played Pakistan, great last hour.

I think tomorrow could be a bit of a mad day with a lot of wickets falling.

If at the end of it all, Pak set England 250 to win then that should be more than enough to level the series at 1-1 on the fourth day. Duckett has said he doesn’t want to chase more than 200 on this pitch and he’s right.

Then onto the decider which should hopefully be another good game.
 
Rana said:
I doubt it.

One England player settling in and tearing down the spinners will see this total be too small.

350 and it’s your game I recon
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Their go to approach is bazball in 4th innings. You cannot do that on turning tracks. One wicket will bring 2. Few years back chasing 273 against Bangladesh at Mirur they were like 100/0 at onie point with DUckett and COokin coasting along. Then they lost 1 wicket and they lost the next 9 for 64 runs and ended up losing the Test. It is going to be very tough.
 
Human786 said:
He is a liability now ... bowled just 5 overs too !
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I’ve said it here and elsewhere. Stokes was a handy short term fix as captain for England but he is looking a bit washed now and our national side needs to start planning for life without him. Clearly is past his best and one more serious injury from being on the scrap heap. International retirement won’t be too far away for Stokes.
 
Rana said:
I doubt it.

One England player settling in and tearing down the spinners will see this total be too small.

350 and it’s your game I recon
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Nope, 350 will be close to impossible here.
 
Glad to see PCT finally performing, trolling aside it was ridiculous to see their performances of last 6 months.
 
JaDed said:
Nope, 350 will be close to impossible here.
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If pakistan bowl England for less than 300 (they should)

Then they can slowly grind their way to a good total like that. Pakistan will play spin better than England. Bashir has been hopeless
 
James said:
I’ve said it here and elsewhere. Stokes was a handy short term fix as captain for England but he is looking a bit washed now and our national side needs to start planning for life without him. Clearly is past his best and one more serious injury from being on the scrap heap. International retirement won’t be too far away for Stokes.
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@James what are the odds that THIS could be a hard fought Draw ?
 
6th session had the toughest conditions for batting. That toss was crucial for Pakistan.

Uphill struggle for England.
 
kron said:
But which player from Pakistan can match babar in terms of personality, looks, charm, marketability and communications skills?
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Sajid Khan.... inspiring follically challenged people all over the world!
 
Everyone is getting ahead of themselves again. England still have an aggressive batsman and reasonable tail except Bashir. Combine that with Pakistan ability to collapse quickly, the match is still in balance.
 
Said it before — if you are the inferior side, play on helpful wickets as it levels the playing field.
Not sure why the Pakistan brains trust don’t understand this basic concept and instruct groundsmen accordingly
 
kron said:
We need to talk about Ben Stokes. And how overrated he is.
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Carse is a no.7 batter. He has scored alot of runs for Durham this season. Maybe he should be the all rounder.
Although Eng are only concerned about the ashes, and the only team Stokes has made some meaningful scores against is Australia. So Stokes will stay, otherwise he is playing the role of an injury prone bowler against other teams.
 
Human786 said:
Which target is par in your opinion on this pitch 100k buddy- be realistic , not pessimist ? c @Asad T @BouncerGuy @Rana @Mamoon @FearlessRoar
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Have you seen Pakistan 2nd inn efforts in vast majority of tests in recent times. You want to talk about reality, its there to see. Pakistan have generally batted poorly in 2nd inns of test matches in recent times. Nothing to do with pessimism
 
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