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Seniors those days were not so greedy... They did not get into T20 teams!
This.
Those seniors aren't even a patch on today's seniors who are greediest of all.
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Bopara absolutely eviscerating India on BBC TMS. He said that he thought India were lucky to get this far and are years behind England..lol..
Can't say I disagree.
Can't say I disagree.
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Yes, we lost two last-ball finishes.Pakistan lost to India and Zimbabawe, and needed Ned to beat SA)
Pak in the semis is the very definition of a fluke.
India was out of the game for 38 overs of that contest against Pakistan, survived a huge scare against Bangladesh, got beat by South Africa and now humiliated by England in a semi-final.
Average team, over achieved in this World Cup.
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England Zindabad 
Emphatic thumping win.
It’s coming home!
Emphatic thumping win.
It’s coming home!
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Missed the match felt asleep after few overs, on night shift got home 7am. But what a class chase that was. Emphatic! .
Completely agree.
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Complete thrashing from England.
I expected England to win but not like this.
I expected England to win but not like this.
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Whereas all of my predictions and the pre-match analysis went horribly wrong in the first Semi-Final, almost all of what I said proved to be dead right in the second one.
Link to the post quoted below:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pre-match-Discussion&p=11654036#post11654036
The anchors in the Indian team, the non-T20-styled batsmen, cost India the game here, as is being pin-pointed by a lot of people.
The team batting second hammered it in this game. I absolutely disagree with Rohit´s decision of batting first. Ideally, he should´ve put England in first and let their batsmen be under the pump on the occasion of a big match.
Besides that, here´s what I said in general ahead of the Semi-Finals....
My fear too turned out to be right.
Link to the post:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pre-match-Discussion&p=11653998#post11653998
Link to the post quoted below:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pre-match-Discussion&p=11654036#post11654036
DHONI183 said:
The anchors in the Indian team, the non-T20-styled batsmen, cost India the game here, as is being pin-pointed by a lot of people.
DHONI183 said:
The team batting second hammered it in this game. I absolutely disagree with Rohit´s decision of batting first. Ideally, he should´ve put England in first and let their batsmen be under the pump on the occasion of a big match.
Besides that, here´s what I said in general ahead of the Semi-Finals....
DHONI183 said:
My fear too turned out to be right.
Link to the post:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pre-match-Discussion&p=11653998#post11653998
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England’s ten-wicket win over India in the ICC Men’s T20 World Cup semi-final was a high point of the team’s tournament and the best performance so far of Jos Buttler’s captaincy tenure.
To beat the world’s top-ranked Men’s T20I team in such an emphatic manner is a huge statement from England ahead of Sunday’s final against Pakistan.
Buttler and his opening partner Alex Hales will rightly take the headlines after their record-breaking opening stand.
But there is more to producing a performance of such dominance than it just being a great day out for two batters.
Sticking with a batting-heavy approach
There is no one way to approach T20I selection, but leaning into a squad’s strength is almost always the best policy. For some teams that means picking a bowling-heavy XI and trying to always get to a competitive score with the bat.
But England’s strength is with the bat, and they made a big call to name just four front-line bowlers in their side throughout the World Cup, going against the pattern used for much of the previous six months.
Having seven genuine batters and then three all-rounders in Sam Curran, Chris Woakes and Chris Jordan, meant England batted right down to number ten against India. And even last-man-in Adil Rashid can play.
That strength in depth gives top-order players the confidence to take risks, and the aggression from Hales and Buttler in the opening overs suggested they had total faith in the rest of the team if their powerplay gamble didn’t pay off.
“We always want to start as fast as we can and aggressive,” Buttler said.
Buttler and Hales smash batting record: The England partnership that set a new standard
“Adil Rashid was down at No. 11 today, and that gives us the freedom to come out aggressive, that depth.
“It’s our best performance so far in the tournament, and to do it on a day like today is incredibly satisfying. You couldn’t ask for a better run-chase. With such a long batting line-up it gives you a lot of freedom to play.”
Making the right call at the toss
England have looked better batting first throughout this tournament, but Buttler opted to chase after winning the toss.
In doing so he put the onus on India to set the tempo, and a slow first half to the Indian innings ultimately proved pivotal.
“I ummed and aahed over the toss for a long while actually, what I’d do if I won it. Gut feel said to chase today.
“Against India I feel they’re a bit more dangerous when they know what to do. It worked today, it might not work another time.”
Not letting injuries throw England off course
Losing the team’s top-ranked batter and obvious strike bowler in a double-injury blow could have muddled England’s selection thinking.
But Buttler and his coaches stuck to their guns. In came Phil Salt as a direct replacement for Dawid Malan, resisting the urge to stick to a bowling-heavy approach. Salt barely featured with the bat, but his presence maintained the batting depth that gave the openers confidence to attack.
And, coming in for Mark Wood, Chris Jordan delivered well under tricky circumstances with the ball.
“To bring in Chris Jordan, someone who’s been a mainstay of the team for a long time, adds huge experience. I thought the dimensions of this ground suited his game more than someone like David Willey.
“I don’t think CJ was thanking me too much for bowling him three overs straight through at the death though. To come in your first game of the tournament and bowl at Hardik at that stage of the game I thought was an incredible effort.”
Standing by Adil Rashid
England’s premier spinner struggled through the group stage, not taking a wicket until the final match against Sri Lanka.
But Adil Rashid has been a permanent presence in England’s white-ball bowling attack for a reason, and the leg-spinner showed his class with wonderful returns of 1/20 off his four overs, restricting India at precisely the moment they were looking to kick on.
“I thought Adil was outstanding today,” Buttler said.
“He bowled the best I’ve seen him bowl for a long while. We had to get those guys out and I thought he was the best chance to do that.
"To pick up the key wicket of Suryakumar Yadav – it’s such a huge performance from Dilly today.”
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To beat the world’s top-ranked Men’s T20I team in such an emphatic manner is a huge statement from England ahead of Sunday’s final against Pakistan.
Buttler and his opening partner Alex Hales will rightly take the headlines after their record-breaking opening stand.
But there is more to producing a performance of such dominance than it just being a great day out for two batters.
Sticking with a batting-heavy approach
There is no one way to approach T20I selection, but leaning into a squad’s strength is almost always the best policy. For some teams that means picking a bowling-heavy XI and trying to always get to a competitive score with the bat.
But England’s strength is with the bat, and they made a big call to name just four front-line bowlers in their side throughout the World Cup, going against the pattern used for much of the previous six months.
Having seven genuine batters and then three all-rounders in Sam Curran, Chris Woakes and Chris Jordan, meant England batted right down to number ten against India. And even last-man-in Adil Rashid can play.
That strength in depth gives top-order players the confidence to take risks, and the aggression from Hales and Buttler in the opening overs suggested they had total faith in the rest of the team if their powerplay gamble didn’t pay off.
“We always want to start as fast as we can and aggressive,” Buttler said.
Buttler and Hales smash batting record: The England partnership that set a new standard
“Adil Rashid was down at No. 11 today, and that gives us the freedom to come out aggressive, that depth.
“It’s our best performance so far in the tournament, and to do it on a day like today is incredibly satisfying. You couldn’t ask for a better run-chase. With such a long batting line-up it gives you a lot of freedom to play.”
Making the right call at the toss
England have looked better batting first throughout this tournament, but Buttler opted to chase after winning the toss.
In doing so he put the onus on India to set the tempo, and a slow first half to the Indian innings ultimately proved pivotal.
“I ummed and aahed over the toss for a long while actually, what I’d do if I won it. Gut feel said to chase today.
“Against India I feel they’re a bit more dangerous when they know what to do. It worked today, it might not work another time.”
Not letting injuries throw England off course
Losing the team’s top-ranked batter and obvious strike bowler in a double-injury blow could have muddled England’s selection thinking.
But Buttler and his coaches stuck to their guns. In came Phil Salt as a direct replacement for Dawid Malan, resisting the urge to stick to a bowling-heavy approach. Salt barely featured with the bat, but his presence maintained the batting depth that gave the openers confidence to attack.
And, coming in for Mark Wood, Chris Jordan delivered well under tricky circumstances with the ball.
“To bring in Chris Jordan, someone who’s been a mainstay of the team for a long time, adds huge experience. I thought the dimensions of this ground suited his game more than someone like David Willey.
“I don’t think CJ was thanking me too much for bowling him three overs straight through at the death though. To come in your first game of the tournament and bowl at Hardik at that stage of the game I thought was an incredible effort.”
Standing by Adil Rashid
England’s premier spinner struggled through the group stage, not taking a wicket until the final match against Sri Lanka.
But Adil Rashid has been a permanent presence in England’s white-ball bowling attack for a reason, and the leg-spinner showed his class with wonderful returns of 1/20 off his four overs, restricting India at precisely the moment they were looking to kick on.
“I thought Adil was outstanding today,” Buttler said.
“He bowled the best I’ve seen him bowl for a long while. We had to get those guys out and I thought he was the best chance to do that.
"To pick up the key wicket of Suryakumar Yadav – it’s such a huge performance from Dilly today.”
ICC
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Whereas all of my predictions and the pre-match analysis went horribly wrong in the first Semi-Final, almost all of what I said proved to be dead right in the second one.
Link to the post quoted below:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pre-match-Discussion&p=11654036#post11654036
The anchors in the Indian team, the non-T20-styled batsmen, cost India the game here, as is being pin-pointed by a lot of people.
The team batting second hammered it in this game. I absolutely disagree with Rohit´s decision of batting first. Ideally, he should´ve put England in first and let their batsmen be under the pump on the occasion of a big match.
Besides that, here´s what I said in general ahead of the Semi-Finals....
My fear too turned out to be right.
Link to the post:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pre-match-Discussion&p=11653998#post11653998
Also, there was no better game than this to underline the fact how far ahead England are than India in T20 cricket - as was also claimed in my above quoted post. This match defined the difference, if ever there was needed one.
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DHONI183 said:
Link to the post:
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Pre-match-Discussion&p=11658285#post11658285
Although it may not have been a mega high-scoring game, but it wasn't a low-scoring affair either, and England simply ran away with it.
A thrashing of epic proportions.
I have been annoyed at Kohli trying to influence the umpires while batting for the whole tournament, so I am pleased I don't have to watch it in the final.
England trounced them without even using their best bowler! It was like a minnow match.
Maybe this will slow down the self important hype around the IPL too- it's just another T20 tournament, not some breeding ground for legends.
Well done England, been the best team all tournament so far. Let's see if it is consistent ENgland or Cornered Tigers to win it all!
I have been annoyed at Kohli trying to influence the umpires while batting for the whole tournament, so I am pleased I don't have to watch it in the final.
England trounced them without even using their best bowler! It was like a minnow match.
Maybe this will slow down the self important hype around the IPL too- it's just another T20 tournament, not some breeding ground for legends.
Well done England, been the best team all tournament so far. Let's see if it is consistent ENgland or Cornered Tigers to win it all!
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Pakistan is consistently reach the latter stages of tournaments.
Isn't it time they had Adidas or Nike on their jersey?
Isn't it time they had Adidas or Nike on their jersey?
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Even India no longer has a good manufacturer.
I want slazenger back or Gray Nicholls.
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Missed both the semi-finals because of work.
Anyways, a tough time now for Indian fans, some supposed Pakistanis on this forum, and Babar-Rizwan haters as they will have to support the same English team on Sunday.
As many posters have already said, India probably overachieved in this tournament.
Won against Pakistan after a once in a decade like knock from Virat after being dominated for almost the entire game, barely escaped against Bangladesh, lost against SA, and now got demolished against England.
They will look back at these results and think that they should be happy with a semi-final spot. The team clearly has too many flaws too be crowned World Champions in Australia. That being said, they will have to live with the fact that they have not won an ICC trophy for now a whole decade, which really is dissapointing for a nation who leads the game both in terms of following, and money.
England on the other hand, have proved that they are not only the most destructive, but also the most mentally strong team of the tournament. You simply do not chase 170 runs in a WC semi-final in such a manner, no matter how poor the bowling performance is. Hats off to them.
Our best bet against them is to bowl first, attack them from the very first ball and try to get wickets. Shaheen and co. should not think about anything else. They will be playing against England, they will get hit for sixes because this is how they play, but our guys need to go for wickets and that pressure will eventually lead to dot balls, and then more wickets.
Of course, easier said than done, but bowl first and then bat the way you are supposed to bat according to the target and the weather. We definitely have a bowling attack superior to India, so hitting us in this manner will not be an easy task.
But again, this is England.
Anyways, a tough time now for Indian fans, some supposed Pakistanis on this forum, and Babar-Rizwan haters as they will have to support the same English team on Sunday.
As many posters have already said, India probably overachieved in this tournament.
Won against Pakistan after a once in a decade like knock from Virat after being dominated for almost the entire game, barely escaped against Bangladesh, lost against SA, and now got demolished against England.
They will look back at these results and think that they should be happy with a semi-final spot. The team clearly has too many flaws too be crowned World Champions in Australia. That being said, they will have to live with the fact that they have not won an ICC trophy for now a whole decade, which really is dissapointing for a nation who leads the game both in terms of following, and money.
England on the other hand, have proved that they are not only the most destructive, but also the most mentally strong team of the tournament. You simply do not chase 170 runs in a WC semi-final in such a manner, no matter how poor the bowling performance is. Hats off to them.
Our best bet against them is to bowl first, attack them from the very first ball and try to get wickets. Shaheen and co. should not think about anything else. They will be playing against England, they will get hit for sixes because this is how they play, but our guys need to go for wickets and that pressure will eventually lead to dot balls, and then more wickets.
Of course, easier said than done, but bowl first and then bat the way you are supposed to bat according to the target and the weather. We definitely have a bowling attack superior to India, so hitting us in this manner will not be an easy task.
But again, this is England.
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