England v India | 2nd Test | July 17-21 2014 | Lord's

[sensible-indian-fan]

Dhoni's reaction:

 

[saiyan0312]

I would call indias day if they survive the session but looks like game will end. without ashwin you cant expect some tail ender firing.

 

[desi_launda]

This is a proper surface?

 

[khalil1986]

Wonder how long the grass will be live on pitch, I'm guessing it won't go dead atleast till tomorrow afternoon?

Groundsman do supposedly trim etc at end of day.

 

[Varun]

I would call indias day if they survive the session but looks like game will end. without ashwin you cant expect some tail ender firing.

You're underestimating Kumar. Like Agarkar, he would want to be the second trundler to get on the honours board with a 100*.

 

[trogger]

Knock 2 more over and then the contest really starts.

 

[saiyan0312]

You're underestimating Kumar. Like Agarkar, he would want to be the second trundler to get on the honours board with a 100*.

If kumar crosses twenty then he is a very good bat and will show how pathetic england are at removing the tail even at a green top.

 

[Varun]

If kumar crosses twenty then he is a very good bat and will show how pathetic england are at removing the tail even at a green top.

He's scored more runs than Dhoni and Jadeja put together already.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

I would call indias day if they survive the session but looks like game will end. without ashwin you cant expect some tail ender firing.

I am so angry at Dhoni for not picking Ashwin.

Ashwin as a batsman alone is better than Dhoni. Ok not fully proven but indications are strong based on the sample set we have.

 

[nish_mate]

Dhoni to retire from tests end of this tests and Jadeja never to be seen in Indian whites ever for overseas tests....

 

[Varun]

Dhoni to retire from tests end of this tests and Jadeja never to be seen in Indian whites ever for overseas tests....

And then we wake up.

 

[Sandeep]

What foolish captaincy is this? C'mon Cook get your best bowler and kock the tail out

 

[nish_mate]

And then we wake up.

Naah time is ripe....it will happen

 

[Varun]

And we're still plodding against Moeen. I mean, come on.

 

[Varun]

Finally, a four.

 

[trogger]

Lets assume the grass stays through the first 2 days what would a good score be first up..anything over 220?

If it stays green and has this much assistance any score over 200 surely keeps india well in the contest.

 

[saiyan0312]

Kumar has shown a hundred times better defence then dhawan,dhoni and jadeja.

 

[Buffet]

Lets assume the grass stays through the first 2 days what would a good score be first up..anything over 220?

If it stays green and has this much assistance any score over 200 surely keeps india well in the contest.

I don't think grass will be last. If pitch behaves the same way then 200-230 is a decent score here.

 

[Sandeep]

Kumar is much much much better bat than Dhoni

 

[nish_mate]

I don't think grass will be last. If pitch behaves the same way then 200-230 is a decent score here.

Will England/ECB be allowed to tamper with the pitch overnight- or is that pitch now under the control of ICC?

 

[Sandeep]

Real bad captaincy from Cook..

 

[saiyan0312]

You are gonna love this [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] from cricinfo

Shantanu Agrawa: "The curious case of Jadeja: He is not a better bowler than Ashwin. He is not a better batsman than Ashwin. Ashwin has 2 hundreds and 3 fifties whereas Jadeja has not even scored a ffifty. His average is almost half of Ashwins. What is he doing in this team?"

 

[Varun]

You are gonna love this [MENTION=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/MENTION] from cricinfo

Shantanu Agrawa: "The curious case of Jadeja: He is not a better bowler than Ashwin. He is not a better batsman than Ashwin. Ashwin has 2 hundreds and 3 fifties whereas Jadeja has not even scored a ffifty. His average is almost half of Ashwins. What is he doing in this team?"

He's twice as better friends with Mahendra Singh than Ashwin though.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

you are gonna love this [mention=134809]sensible-indian-fan[/mention] from cricinfo

shantanu agrawa: "the curious case of jadeja: He is not a better bowler than ashwin. He is not a better batsman than ashwin. Ashwin has 2 hundreds and 3 fifties whereas jadeja has not even scored a ffifty. His average is almost half of ashwins. What is he doing in this team?"

fml.

 

[saiyan0312]

He's twice as better friends with Mahendra Singh than Ashwin though.

Then he can say good bye to any overseas wins and say hello to being one of the worst overseas captain for india in their history.

 

[saiyan0312]

Rahane well done. Going towards an amazing fifty.

 

[saiyan0312]

another unbelievable point

Harsha: "To Add to Shantanu's point, there are SIX Lefties in the England XI"

I didnt know that. Dhoni and cook are fighting for the "worst captain" throne.

 

[saiyan0312]

Cook. What a poor captain. When you need your best seamers to bowl you bring in a part timer. amazing.

 

[Justcrazy]

Kumar can bat , he has good record in first class.

 

[Justcrazy]

Cook. What a poor captain. When you need your best seamers to bowl you bring in a part timer. amazing.

Cook thinking like

 

[nish_mate]

Well done young Jinks--- only halfway mark though- must plough on!

 

[Justcrazy]

Poms need to drill home the advantage here.

 

[Sandeep]

50 up!

 

[giri26]

Of all the Indian young players, I feel that Rahane is the only one who is deserving of a 50+ average. He has been the most consistent batsman for India overseas. I am very disappointed with Pujara...He seems to throw away starts most of the time..His shot in the second innings of the first test was particularly horrible considering we had just lost Vijay playing similarly outrageous shot.

 

[saiyan0312]

for rahane. amazing batting there and england have completely lost the advantage the green top provided.

 

[Varun]

Warne knows "Jinks" Rahane very well from the IPL it seems.

 

[Adil_94]

Rahane great knock If India get 250 could be matchwinning providing their bowlers back them upm

 

[Adil_94]

Plunkett is just rubbish

 

[saiyan0312]

Plunket is getting smashed at a green top. England bowling stocks are looking low. where is steven finn.

 

[Justcrazy]

Fifty for Rahane

Well played. 

 

[trogger]

I know he made the ton at wellington but this might be his best knock at this level.

 

[leatherface58]

Rahane stepping up again when it matters. And PPers don't rate him.

 

[desi_launda]

for rahane. amazing batting there and england have completely lost the advantage the green top provided.

lol what.India are 183/7 with a pitch quickly drying out.England are way ahead

 

[dravid the wall]

dhoni and jadeja shuld learn from bhuvi that how to play test cricket...

 

[Sandeep]

What a good number 5 to have!

 

[Electron]

lol what.India are 183/7 with a pitch quickly drying out.England are way ahead

True. The best Indian bowlers can expect is first 2 hours in the morning tomorrow. After that, this will turn into a belter.

 

[leatherface58]

Kumar is much much much better bat than Dhoni

Shami > Dhoni overseas.

 

[saiyan0312]

lol what.India are 183/7 with a pitch quickly drying out.England are way ahead

They way it was swinging india should have been 83/7. The level of advantage that pitch was supposed to provide was annulled by some serious amateurish bowling from england. Overall england is ahead but they still could have been at a very very heavy advantage.,

 

[Justcrazy]

Indians fighting for a total here , some how Indians have been floating

 

[Justcrazy]

Partnership forty runs already.

 

[Varun]

Rahane stepping up again when it matters. And PPers don't rate him.

Stay calm, my thread will soon work. I just used Shehzad as an ingredient instead of the tried and tested Umar!

 

[Buffet]

Pitch is so good for bowling and still Eng is bowling leg stump line. Just bowl normally and you will get wickets in this pitch.

 

[Justcrazy]

England would be disappointed here. They let go a huge advantage.

 

[leatherface58]

Even a rubbish bowler like Plunkett is troubling the batsmen.

 

[Justcrazy]

Pitch is so good for bowling and still Eng is bowling leg stump line. Just bowl normally and you will get wickets in this pitch.

Indian bowlers will show poms how to bowl on this pitch.

 

[Justcrazy]

Who is England bowling coach ?

 

[giri26]

lol what.India are 183/7 with a pitch quickly drying out.England are way ahead

The pitch is still assisting pacers if they bowl the right line. The problem is that England have just two bowlers Anderson and Broad, Stokes and Plunkett not consistent enough.

 

[Justcrazy]

Stokes back on here.

 

[Justcrazy]

Kumar looking like a bowling all rounder like philander

 

[Justcrazy]

Kumar has good potential with the bat , pakistan need bowlers like this.

 

[Justcrazy]

Fifty run partnership here. Well played.

 

[Justcrazy]

Drinks

Cook has to think a lot here.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

lol what.India are 183/7 with a pitch quickly drying out.England are way ahead

I kind of agree with this - people are over playing how 'bad' this pitch actually is. Look at the wickets that have fallen - okay Dhawan got a good delivery, Vijay closed the face too early, Kohli and Pujara got good balls, Dhoni's rubbish foot movement cost him, Jadeja just had a brain **** and missed a straight one against a part time spinner and Binny got a bad decision.

That's 3, possibly 4, wickets down to the pitch imo and the rest were avoidable.

 

[Sandeep]

I kind of agree with this - people are over playing how 'bad' this pitch actually is. Look at the wickets that have fallen - okay Dhawan got a good delivery, Vijay closed the face too early, Kohli and Pujara got good balls, Dhoni's rubbish foot movement cost him, Jadeja just had a brain **** and missed a straight one against a part time spinner and Binny got a bad decision.

That's 3, possibly 4, wickets down to the pitch imo and the rest were avoidable.

And how do you account for all those plays and misses? Give them to batsman's credit?

 

[nish_mate]

200 up- another 50 odd needed

 

[asifp]

bowling short and rubbish.

England have forgotten the full pitch just outside off stump line and length

 

[saiyan0312]

200 reached. Yep england your attack is pathetic.

 

[lilFlip]

Kumar has good potential with the bat , pakistan need batsmen like this.

Fixed

 

[Sandeep]

200 up! Great going guys

 

[Electron]

Is it better batting or is it pitch getting flatter after the initial burst ?

 

[Buffet]

Bowling bouncers one after another to stop the runs on a green pitch, lol.

 

[saiyan0312]

Pitch is getting easier. so it was one of those fake green tops that last only a while. England messed up. By now england should have been batting.

 

[Sandeep]

Plunkett is shooting England on it's leg.. Leaking runs!

 

[Sandeep]

No matter whether pitch eases or remains good, India needs runs and that is what is being done. I'm not complaining

 

[Electron]

Pitch is getting easier. so it was one of those fake green tops that last only a while. England messed up. By now england should have been batting.

Or maybe it will do something 2-3 hours every day. I hope that's the case or India are already out of the game.

 

[nish_mate]

Or maybe it will do something 2-3 hours every day. I hope that's the case or India are already out of the game.

its never over till its over #eden gardens 2001

 

[Buffet]

Is it better batting or is it pitch getting flatter after the initial burst ?

Nope, it's still a great pitch for bowlers. Just bowling badly.

 

[Sandeep]

I know the problems about the pitches but I really think the bowlers should be self sufficient in picking wickets. Solely blaming the pitches or whining like women should reduce.. I want Indian bowlers to go all out and try hard. Doesn't matter what the results are

 

[Indiafan]

What the hell is Cook thinking here?

 

[Anfield]

awful bowling by Broad and Plunket. Broad showing why he has such a high average.