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England v India | 4th Test | August 7-9, 2014 | Manchester

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MSD should throw the kitchen sink at England bowlers now.

Aaron and Pankaj will not last more than 1 over combined.
 
reminds me of your post about ashwin...something on the lines that if ashwin gets in not matter how much it swings or seams or spins he will not get out...i told then also that he aint the second coming of tendulkar :P

First point:

See how he got out?

Did swing or seam or spin get him out today?

It was his ego that got him out.

Second point:

Ashwin in zone is a great batsman. Today he showed that. Yes, he struggled against Anderson but he was crazily trying to score of those Anderson swing balls when he could have showed him the straight bat and feasted on others.

Third Point:

Of course he isn't the second coming of Sachin. I replied to your post in THAT thread itself.

He has scored on tough tracks and when he has done it, he used controlled aggression instead of this. Whenever he over attacks, he scores fast and gets out in 30's.

Bud, you clearly know what I actually meant in those posts. Having some fun, eh? :))
 
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hahaha I remember people labelling B Kumar as all-rounder lol

1 advice to so called 'fans'. If a player can bat and bowl in all forms then you can label them and rate them and stuff.
 
First point:

See how he got out?

Did swing or seam or spin get him out today?

It was his ego that got him out.

Second point:

Ashwin in zone is a great batsman. Today he showed that. Yes, he struggled against Anderson but he was crazily trying to score of those Anderson swing balls when he could have showed him the straight bat and feasted on others.

Third Point:

Of course he isn't the second coming of Sachin. I replied to your post in THAT thread itself.

He has scored on tough tracks and when he has done it, he used controlled aggression instead of this. Whenever he over attacks, he scores fast and gets out in 30's.

oh no need to write a thesis on this....i was just pulling your leg...he did his job with the bat....you expect too much from his batting
 
oh no need to write a thesis on this....i was just pulling your leg...he did his job with the bat....you expect too much from his batting

Haha...I edited my last post to add the last line just before I saw this comment.

Bud, you clearly know what I actually meant in those posts. Having some fun, eh?

Have this bad habit of big posts. Sorry.

Reg Ashwin - I actually rate him as a good lower order batsman. Really good batsman. If you see his scores, all have come in tough intense pressure situations (in tough pitches actually). Not the 500/6 kinda stage where it doesn't matter whether a tailender scores or not.
 
Big Test for Aaron now.

2 easy wickets for Broad in the offering. All he needs to do is bowl straight.
 
hahahahhahahahahha

hahahhahahahahahhah

Finally got a chance to check the score

I'm crying here.
 
I'm surprised Anderson averages around 30. Would've thought it would've been around 27.
 
What a pathetic performance by team india this test wont last 5 days for sure :amir
 
When your top order gets owned like 8-4 suddenly after playing well in 2 overseas tours and 2 Tests in this series, nothing one can do.

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Bowling paradise pitch :) Dhoni have to play same innings which he played against us in 1st odi at chennai 230-240 can be a decent total on this pitch but to make it decent your bowlers have to strike on consistent basis which is highly unlikely
 
I'm surprised Anderson averages around 30. Would've thought it would've been around 27.

If he could play India in England for the rest of his career, he will surely average 25.

Unfortunately, he has to play Aus and SA often.
 
I have watched Ashwin bat before many times and he is a much better batsman than the likes of Rohit/Gambit/Dhawan in difficult conditions especially.

This guy will be one of the best all rounders that India would have ever produced when he retires. Most fans who watched Ashwin expect a little more from him than 40 runs. He looked set for an easy 50.


They should drop this bista Jadeja fellow and push Ashwin up to #7 where he can do more damage.
 
Broad to Dhoni, FOUR, up and over! It's full, inviting the drive through the off side, and Dhoni chooses to get under it and hoick over cover point. Slows down near the boundary, though, and they only get two

Lol Cricinfo.
 
Shaba Shaba Aron.. Now India can't get pass of a most duckers in an innings, currently hold by pak, though we can drew it :afridi..
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ashwin has now scored 413 Test runs at 51.62 with two fifties and one century whenever he's walked in with India not yet 200 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvInd?src=hash">#EngvInd</a></p>— Bharat Sundaresan (@beastieboy07) <a href="https://twitter.com/beastieboy07/statuses/497391992687443968">August 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Ashwin has now scored 413 Test runs at 51.62 with two fifties and one century whenever he's walked in with India not yet 200 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvInd?src=hash">#EngvInd</a></p>— Bharat Sundaresan (@beastieboy07) <a href="https://twitter.com/beastieboy07/statuses/497391992687443968">August 7, 2014</a></blockquote>
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How many of those we won?
 
WTH

Find the only fielder on leg side.

Great innings by MSD.

Score is at least past 150 now.

Indian team getting out just when the conditions are getting easy to bat. :facpealm:
 
How many of those we won?

Very less due to inept team.

The ones we won were:

WI tour of India 2011 - Ashwin came in when we were staring at a follow on and guided us to safety with Kohli. India could have won the match in the end but Ashwin didn't take the 2nd run (which was anyway tight). Draw.

In this match though, Ashwin came in when our score was 200+ (exact I don't know).

WI tour of India 2013 - Ashwin came in around 150-6 and scored century with Rohit. India won.
 
152 all out.

As expected after 8/4.

Thanks to MSD and Ashwin for saving India from Embarrassment.
 
Bottom line.

Ashwin and Rahane are the best batsmen when the conditions are difficult to bat. MSD plays like this once every 5 Tests.

Rest of the team might not even come to bat. They are just totally out of form and some just do not have the technique to play the moving ball.
 
Bottom line.

Ashwin and Rahane are the best batsmen when the conditions are difficult to bat. MSD plays like this once every 5 Tests.

Rest of the team might not even come to bat. They are just totally out of form and some just do not have the technique to play the moving ball.

oh no need to be so dramatic ....it doesn't help when your two best batsmen are out of form ...ask england(bell,cook)
 
Bottom line.

Ashwin and Rahane are the best batsmen when the conditions are difficult to bat. MSD plays like this once every 5 Tests.

Rest of the team might not even come to bat. They are just totally out of form and some just do not have the technique to play the moving ball.
He's scored three 50s in 4 tests. If there is anyone to blame, it's Kohli.
 
Brilliant knock by Dhoni.

But I am surprised how the hell does Ashwin play balls without leaving anything? Will it work in England in other innings?

Even Dhoni leaves balls.

Maybe I will ask it in another thread where batting experts here can explain the technical aspects.
 
Everyone expecting Aaron to bowl well, get ready to be disappointed.

I hope he proves me wrong.
 
**WICKET***

Just when things were settling down with a 66 run stand, Ashwin pulls down to Robson who catches it reverse cup manner....just....

Ahsin goes for a solid 40, and misses out on much more.

Thanks for explaining how wickets fell. I wasn't watching the game.
 
Honestly I hope Pankaj picks up a few, has toiled in domestic Cricket too long to be sent right back
 
He's scored three 50s in 4 tests. If there is anyone to blame, it's Kohli.

Kohli and Pujara are the big culprits this series.

Nobody expects the likes of Dhawan or Gambit or Rohit to succeed in England. But Kohli and Pujara are the Series Ka Mujrim.
 
Looked lethal in flat IPL decks, should be interesting to see how he does here with assistance

Cooks gonna be his first victim in tests- if Bhuvi dont get him

Cant see Cook with his technique lasting too long on this wicket....
 
On the eve of the tea interval, India's decision to bat first at Manchester, horrendously backfired on Team India.

In less than 4 hours after opting to bat first, MSD's XI had stumbled to 6/4 in no time. Despite resistance from Rahane and Dhoni, Rahane's lack of temperament on the edge of lunch saw him depart, with the scorecard on 63/5.

After lunch, Ashwin showed his batting capabilities and why he should have been played instead of Rohit at the Aegeas Bowl, in putting on 66 with his captain, before he, too, misjudged his shot selection and tamely pull into Robson's hands jogging in from deep square leg.

The Indian skipper posted his 1st 50 of the series, in the hope Kumar and the tail could muster runs and pass 200, at least. It wasn't to be as they fell like a pack of cards and Broad walked away with 6/25. The total included 6 batters failing to score a run. The other issue in the batting to date has been the fact that only Vijay and Rahane have been the only 2 specialist batters to cross 55. MSD added 70 to that in his role as the 'all rounder'.

With the sun shining, its up to the Indian seamers to see if they can extract some pace and bounce very early in Englands innings, or it will become very difficult so early in the match, to even think about anything bar defeat.

The other issue that has been affecting India is their ability to catch in the slip region. Yesterday, I witnessed the slip catching practice and to say their coach wasn't happy would be an understatement.

India have all the work to do. England will be jumping for joy at their efforts in the first 2 sessions of the match that gives them a huge advantage in going 2/1 up.
 
England should only be concerned about getting over 300 then its game over for India and series loss. The greatest ever Asian team has clearly been Sri Lanka.
 
Kohli should be dropped for Oval and Binny be brought in instead- Binny done more than Kohli in this series....
 
Magnificent by England, or at least by Broad and Anderson.
 
England are in an excellent position. The pitch is good, and they have by far the better of the atmospheric conditions.
 
Except for cook, we should try bouncing out all thier batsmen, and aaron has the pace to do that :akhtar
 
England are in an excellent position. The pitch is good, and they have by far the better of the atmospheric conditions.

Mate, are you not aware of the SUPER FAST BOWLER VARUN AARON that India have at their disposal?
 
Won't name names but some people must be eating some pretty tasty humble pies. :P
 
Except for cook, we should try bouncing out all thier batsmen, and aaron has the pace to do that :akhtar

He will need some control also ass the runs aren't on the board for the moment. Lets see.....anything can happen, especially, an early wicket!
 
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