ICC World Cup 2023: India v Pakistan | Match 12 | Ahmedabad | 14 October | Pakistan innings

[mominsaigol]

The reason we collapsed today isn't because of rizzu, Babar or any of that.

It's because the bowling is too good and the captaincy is too strong. Minus fielding, India has been on song.

Rohit kept bowling kuldeep who imo is the best spinner on the planet even >>>>>> Rashid khan.

He also kept bowling siraj being confident that he'll come good and then kept bumrah back as soon as the collapse was coming.

This is why I said, truth is on paper the Indian team is better and it showed today.

Bumrah 's ball was killer, so was kuldeep's. No way rizzu or Chacha could play that, the ball by kuldeep was literally was Shane Warne would bowl, behind the legs to the stump lol.

Babar got put soft so did saud. Imam played a bad shot, and Abdullah was also a soft dismissal.

My prediction stands, NZ, India, SA and Eng SF. Their just too good, and the reality is Babar is a good bat but he's far from top 10, Rizzu is also a good bat but this is why I told people to stop putting him on quinton or butler's Level.

Saud and Abdullah I'm starting to regret fanboying, maybe their just test lads and imam was never going to perform on this cup


The same no grooming for 4 years, no 2nd string trying and grooming is what will cost us again this year.

The emerging acc side that won the asia cup was the one that should have been groomed these past 4 years with just one of rizzu or Babar leading.

Imam + Babar + Rizzu trio is costly due to them being the same mould. We just need one platform builder, not 3.

 

[mrtaim3]

This killer instinct from Rohit is just too good

 

[kron]

It's a shame from 102 / 2 to this.

 

[batandballbattle]

considered turning it off, but I think I'll wait unitl they're 80-0 after 10

 

[Champ_Pal]

I only started watching in the last 25 minutes and wickets have tumbled ever since I tuned in.

 

[Asif321]

Don’t be surprised this is just Pakistan level . We should be happy with beating Srilanka

 

[viking2559]

Kuldeep yadav is the best spinner in the Odis right now.

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

They were looking good with 5 an over and wickets in hand. See sixes are not important ...

 

[kron]

The reason we collapsed today isn't because of rizzu, Babar or any of that.

It's because the bowling is too good and the captaincy is too strong. Minus fielding, India has been on song.

Rohit kept bowling kuldeep who imo is the best spinner on the planet even >>>>>> Rashid khan.

He also kept bowling siraj being confident that he'll come good and then kept bumrah back as soon as the collapse was coming.

This is why I said, truth is on paper the Indian team is better and it showed today.

Bumrah 's ball was killer, so was kuldeep's. No way rizzu or Chacha could play that, the ball by kuldeep was literally was Shane Warne would bowl, behind the legs to the stump lol.

Babar got put soft so did saud. Imam played a bad shot, and Abdullah was also a soft dismissal.

My prediction stands, NZ, India, SA and Eng SF. Their just too good, and the reality is Babar is a good bat but he's far from top 10, Rizzu is also a good bat but this is why I told people to stop putting him on quinton or butler's Level.

Saud and Abdullah I'm starting to regret fanboying, maybe their just test lads and imam was never going to perform on this cup


The same no grooming for 4 years, no 2nd string trying and grooming is what will cost us again this year.

The emerging acc side that won the asia cup was the one that should have been groomed these past 4 years with just one of rizzu or Babar leading.

Imam + Babar + Rizzu trio is costly due to them being the same mould. We just need one platform builder, not 3.

Sadly I have to agree with this above. I still believe we will come back vs nz and England even if we lose this.

 

[sam_ahm]

No excuses for Pakistan here, completely outplayed by a far superior side.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Still gonna watch the game and back the team.

May be there is something in the pitch. Pakistan has enough bowling fire power to surprise India too.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

They need at least 250 on the board.

 

[Shafi]

I predicted 250 but even 200 looks impossible!!!!!! This team is so useless. PCB needs to be blamed for this disaster to let tyrant Babar to select whom he wants. With this lost we most likely to be out. Aus/NZ/Eng/SA are too good for us

 

[kron]

On big grounds I would hate to face kuldeep

 

[Mercurial]

If we can manage to scrape our way to a score of 250, it would be a reasonable target to defend

 

[Swashbuckler]

Like watching a left handed Shane Warne bowl.

 

[Rana]

The Misbah mindset

 

[jnaveen1980]

Fans actually thought afridi was a better bowler than Bumrah lol

Bumrah was allowed to take rest completely which is a good thing. Pakistan failed to do. I am hearing he has finger injury. Why is he playing then?

 

[rhony]

Amazing bowling by Kuldeep!! Kudos

 

[Devadwal]

What is the reason of this collapsed?? Babar Azam or anything else?

 

[pratiktc]

To be honest, India bowled just average in first 30 ovs but Pak did nothing to press advantage.

Even if India didn't have generational bowlers like Bumrah and Kuldeep who can spark collapses, Rohit must have been extremely happy with just a 5 run rate 30 ovs into the contest.

Neither of Babar, Rizwan did anything to put Jadeja under pressure and bring out India's weakest link Thakur. Hell the way they were being slow choked likely they might have thrown away their wkts trying to overhit Thakur.

Don't call this a collapse. This inns was a swimmer slowly drowning with seawater in lungs.

 

[castortroy]

I can't see any batting order getting away from India on these tracks

This attack is elite.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Beautiful?

He looked good v pace but was a pathetic ruin vs spin from the very start. Zero confidence.

Babar didn't face any ball from Bumrah. He faced Thakur mostly

 

[Rana]

If we can manage to scrape our way to a score of 250, it would be a reasonable target to defend

Yaar Kis dunya main Reh rahe ho?

Try watching cricket outside of Pakistan only

We are decades behind the big teams!

 

[Leeon1994]

Fans actually thought afridi was a better bowler than Bumrah lol

Shaheen is overrated bowler. Bumrah deserves the 1st ranking.

 

[adi_62941]

We deserve this humiliation.

Where were you in the last match. I think we should have a heart to appreciate good performances. Your mind is full of negativity and you come out same like cockroach out for food when pakistan struggles

 

[Abhilash93]

Beautiful?

He looked good v pace but was a pathetic ruin vs spin from the very start. Zero confidence.

Also saved by the umpires call once against Kuldeep.

 

[Cric_lover4487]

Babar for Pak is like Sachin was for us in 90s. He is gone and team collapses under pressure. Shadab got out on unplayable delivery, i can give him a pass but rest dismissals were all softies especially Babar's one.

 

[pakistani pride]

The reason we collapsed today isn't because of rizzu, Babar or any of that.

It's because the bowling is too good and the captaincy is too strong. Minus fielding, India has been on song.

Rohit kept bowling kuldeep who imo is the best spinner on the planet even >>>>>> Rashid khan.

He also kept bowling siraj being confident that he'll come good and then kept bumrah back as soon as the collapse was coming.

This is why I said, truth is on paper the Indian team is better and it showed today.

Bumrah 's ball was killer, so was kuldeep's. No way rizzu or Chacha could play that, the ball by kuldeep was literally was Shane Warne would bowl, behind the legs to the stump lol.

Babar got put soft so did saud. Imam played a bad shot, and Abdullah was also a soft dismissal.

My prediction stands, NZ, India, SA and Eng SF. Their just too good, and the reality is Babar is a good bat but he's far from top 10, Rizzu is also a good bat but this is why I told people to stop putting him on quinton or butler's Level.

Saud and Abdullah I'm starting to regret fanboying, maybe their just test lads and imam was never going to perform on this cup


The same no grooming for 4 years, no 2nd string trying and grooming is what will cost us again this year.

The emerging acc side that won the asia cup was the one that should have been groomed these past 4 years with just one of rizzu or Babar leading.

Imam + Babar + Rizzu trio is costly due to them being the same mould. We just need one platform builder, not 3.

This sums it up. It hurts but its true.

 

[VForVendetta]

Played close to what his numbers suggest his average output is, 50 something runs at a strike rate in the mid to high 80s

That's his ceiling & anyone other than a fanboy should not be shocked at this.

 

[jnaveen1980]

To be honest, India bowled just average in first 30 ovs but Pak did nothing to press advantage.

Even if India didn't have generational bowlers like Bumrah and Kuldeep who can spark collapses, Rohit must have been extremely happy with just a 5 run rate 30 ovs into the contest.

Neither of Babar, Rizwan did anything to put Jadeja under pressure and bring out India's weakest link Thakur. Hell the way they were being slow choked likely they might have thrown away their wkts trying to overhit Thakur.

Don't call this a collapse. This inns was a swimmer slowly drowning with seawater in lungs.

Bang average today. Just that couple of killer deliveries and them not being able to read Kuldeep triggered the collapse

 

[tauseef_mahmood]

I am just trying to understand if the pitch is difficult to play?

 

[Asif321]

What is the reason of this collapsed?? Babar Azam or anything else?

Babar .
Quality bowling good captaincy
And pakistan playing Upto potential against superior sides

 

[Technics 1210]

Where were you in the last match. I think we should have a heart to appreciate good performances. Your mind is full of negativity and you come out same like cockroach out for food when pakistan struggles

He only appears when Arsenal win, and Pakistan lose.

The rest of the time he is busy crying.

 

[Theo_14]

Game was over when Babar was out. Shameless performance.

Afghanistan did better than Pakistan against India. Humble pie for everyone.

 

[castortroy]

The India / pak games are not even close anymore

Just typical minnow bashing for India when playing pak

 

[jnaveen1980]

Now comes India's weak point. Folding the tail

 

[sachin-10dulkar]

Tbh 155-2 in 29 overs was not a bad start to put up a decent fighting total. This is just bad batting at display.

 

[Marooned]

It's a shame from 102 / 2 to this.

Wdym 102/2? It was 155-2

 

[emranabbas]

Bowling has been great bowlers have worked for their wickets

chacha and saud shakeel don't know what happened with them

 

[Technics 1210]

I have a feeling this will be Hassan Ali's day!

 

[Rana]

Rizwan averaging 200+ in this World Cup but Pakistan clearly a qualifier level team

 

[Major]

If pakistan can somehow manager to get 250, i have hope, but even hassan ali looks to be done for

 

[GLORY OF '92]

Pitch isn't a road at all. 280 was a good score here

 

[Firebat]

Shudder to think what our NNR will look like ater this.

 

[Devadwal]

Should bumrah Bowl full over now so we can go for kill?

 

[castortroy]

When was the last time a batsman got after Bumrah?

 

[rhony]

Ashwin is a must in Indian conditions. He is no slouch with the bat either.

Ashwin is a liability in the field. India already has Kuldeep, a terrible fielder. Can't hide two

 

[Champ_Pal]

I am just trying to understand if the pitch is difficult to play?

You cannot judge anything until both teams bat.

 

[Asif321]

Rashid and Mujeeb will eat alive this batting at Chennai

 

[rhony]

Should bumrah Bowl full over now so we can go for kill?

He will leave 2 overs for later

 

[Champ_Pal]

Ashwin is a liability in the field. India already has Kuldeep, a terrible fielder. Can't hide two

Thakur is no Jonty bro. He is pretty slow too.

 

[emranabbas]

I am just trying to understand if the pitch is difficult to play?

Its a 250 pitch

 

[batandballbattle]

What is the reason of this collapsed?? Babar Azam or anything else?

Combination of bad shots and good bowling

Babar was on song and needlessly tried to run one down with no width to the delivery

Saud 50/50, good in drift from kuldeep but he was trying to play back and didn't get to the pitch of the ball

Poor amatuerish dismissal from ifti, rush of blood after hitting a 4 earlier in thr over and bowled around his legs

Rizz got a great cutter, very hard to pick bumrah's change ups

Shadab got a beauty, not much he could do although very questionable as to why he is even playing in his game

 

[ex-q-zit]

It's a shame from 102 / 2 to this.

Its 155/2 to this

 

[topspin]

I wonder if Pakistan will recover from this and put this behind them when they play Australia.

 

[Marooned]

Babar didn't face any ball from Bumrah. He faced Thakur mostly

Yeah but babar is good v pace. Don't think bumrah has ever dismissed him. It's spin which he makes a meal of

 

[Rana]

Just hit out!

What do you have to lose now???

 

[rhony]

Thakur is no Jonty bro. He is pretty slow too.

He's a decent outfielder. Mikes better than Ashwin or kuldeep

 

[Abhilash93]

Ashwin is a liability in the field. India already has Kuldeep, a terrible fielder. Can't hide two

May be India are also worried about bowling second with the dew, will make it tough to bowl with 3 spinners.

 

[Mercurial]

Yaar Kis dunya main Reh rahe ho?

Try watching cricket outside of Pakistan only

We are decades behind the big teams!

Our batting lineup, as it stands, is the most formidable we've had in years. We should persist with this lineup as the tournament advances, only making the adjustment of swapping Shafique for Fakhar. A single collapse doesn't indicate that we are decades behind others. You will witness that India will face a more significant collapse than us today

 

[Champ_Pal]

Just hit out!

What do you have to lose now???

Pakistan need at least 230-240 to have a chance. They have enough bowling to threaten any opposition.

 

[batandballbattle]

Just hit out!

What do you have to lose now???

Against bumrah? lol

 

[mominsaigol]

The Misbah mindset

It's slightly better then misbah mindset but not much better.

The mindset is play traditionally for 30 overs and bat t20 style for last 20 overs which never works batting first as I said in my earlier reply.

The reality is, SENA and India just bat at 5-8 runs consistently and get to 280 to 450+ scores. You can't do that if the mindset is 30 overs 1990 and 20 overs t20. Can't be done, because one side is batting t20 style for all 50 overs lol

 

[Major]

hassan ali you will eventually get out, so just strike the ball

 

[7sins]

Same old story pakistan team are worst at reading the pitch this wasn't a normal 300 + Ahmedabad wicket well move on to Australia match now

 

[adi_62941]

See these players doing tuk tuk. They are so nervous and cautious that nobody has a heart to put ball near boundary. A loser attitude.

 

[Technics 1210]

It is not over till the fat lady sings.

Remember India were 2/3 vs Australia and that match was pressure from the get go.

Anything can happen in the second innings.

 

[Devadwal]

Ohh edge but gone between slip and keeper

 

[jnaveen1980]

Rohit poor in slip

 

[heddie19]

TBut then again, they are professional cricketers. Who gets bowled on off cutters and crossseamers that too when defending the ball. This is shambolic

 

[Rana]

Major has electricity been cut off in Pakistan? Where are you?

 

[gazza619]

The wickets looks hard to bat on all of a sudden. This is not a 300 pitch

 

[castortroy]

When was the last time a batsman got after Bumrah?

Pitch isn't a road at all. 280 was a good score here

Pitch is going to skid on in lights with the dew.

India will decimate this score within 30 overs

 

[Spitfire]

Beautiful?

He looked good v pace but was a pathetic ruin vs spin from the very start. Zero confidence.

Babar would have been out a lot earlier if not for the umpire call. Lucky 50.

 

[adi_62941]

Nawaj can smack some balls

 

[adzzy786]

Just hit out!

What do you have to lose now???

They got 11 overs to play!!

 

[mominsaigol]

@Dr_Bassim You were right BTW. I shouldn't have fan boyed saud and Abdullah. Their test bats, not ready for quality attacks in odi yet.

I back them still but their not groomed atm.

 

[DJhant]

Nawaj is dangerous, India cannot afford to relax..we also have 4 overs of parttime bowlers

 

[castortroy]

The wickets looks hard to bat on all of a sudden. This is not a 300 pitch

Did you not watch the England game.

Batting first was very difficult and then become a road 2nd innings