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India [367 & 75/0] defeat West indies [311 & 127] by 10 wickets to win 2nd Test and series 2-0

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India (From): Prithvi Shaw, Lokesh Rahul, Cheteshwar Pujara, Virat Kohli(c), Ajinkya Rahane, Rishabh Pant(w), Ravindra Jadeja, Ravichandran Ashwin, Kuldeep Yadav, Umesh Yadav, Mohammed Shami, Shardul Thakur

Windies (From): Kraigg Brathwaite, Kieran Powell, Shai Hope, Shimron Hetmyer, Sunil Ambris, Roston Chase, Shane Dowrich(w), Jason Holder(c), Keemo Paul, Sherman Lewis, Shannon Gabriel, Devendra Bishoo, Jahmar Hamilton, Kemar Roach, Jomel Warrican
 
So West Indies batting first. It will be fun to see Indian rockstars facing the 4th innings. I don't remember them winning or drawing any 4th innings in recent times.
 
Deserve to lose this test just on the basis of making Thakur play test cricket!
 
Umesh comes and delivers 2 half trackers on leg stump which are promptly dispatched to mid wicket boundary. Is this how you bowl the first over of a test match? Srinath would cringe after looking how Umesh bowled that over.
 
I see a Shardul Thakur .... is this the same guy or you have another one with same name .................
 
Yet again, Indian troika of spinners will have to take bulk of 20 WI wickets. That's fine especially when you are playing in India but why play 2 seamers in final XI then and that too when one of them is an out and out trundler and other one hasn't learnt a thing even after playing for so many years.
 
MMHS said:
I see a Shardul Thakur .... is this the same guy or you have another one with same name .................
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We're stuck with second coming of Terry Alderman!
 
India refusing to try out new batsmen in the middle order is a ploy to keep the spot for Hardik intact for Australia tests.
 
So Virat Kohli's luck with the toss continues. West Indies bat first. Kemar Roach and Jason Holder return for the visitors. India make just one change, swap Shardul for Shami.
 
West Indies have moved on to 24/0 in 4 overs. SN Thakur walks off with an injury, not sure how serious it is. Ashwin comes in to take the new ball with Umesh Yadav. Early setback for India.
 
Thakur to Powell, FOUR runs, flashes and this just eludes backward point. Prithvi needed to be seven feet tall to try and have a chance at taking that. As Shardul completed his run-up, he was hobbling too. May have turned his ankle, or so it looked like. He isn't looking very comfortable. Let's hope he's okay. Something to do with his landing, possibly. Physio Patrick Farhart is out to attend to him immediately.

What shambles Indian cricket is in!!
 
IIRC, Thakur was sent back from Asia cup on account of being injured and he is now opening Indian attack in a test match and hobbling off again after bowling just 2 overs!!

Its more than just shambles....Don't have apt word for this. Likes of Dhoni (in his heydays) and Fletcher were so much better than what we are witnessing nowadays from this Indian team mafia.
 
MMHS said:
My God, it's the only one then - one of 3 from 1.4 billion - guy must have good contacts.
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Might have compromising pics of Shastri or even Kohli with someone! That's the only reason I could find for his continued selection in Indian team!
 
Ironic that Indian team led by super fit Kohli consists of players which are made of glass..
 
MMHS said:
My God, it's the only one then - one of 3 from 1.4 billion - guy must have good contacts.
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Not so long ago a certain Vinay Kumar was playing a test in Aus
And then we had to tolerate certain Venkatesh Prasad during 90s & early 2000s so we are quite used to it
It's just certain fans overreact way too much as if we have Marshalls or Mcgraths in our domestic cricket
Fact is we don't have any good pace bowler apart from Bumrah,Bhuvi,Shami & Ishant who improved after 50+ tests
Even Umesh is just overrated for pace like Wahab Riaz,the guy has just 1 5-fer in 40 tests
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Not so long ago a certain Vinay Kumar was playing a test in Aus
And then we had to tolerate certain Venkatesh Prasad during 90s & early 2000s so we are quite used to it
It's just certain fans overreact way too much as if we have Marshalls or Mcgraths in our domestic cricket
Fact is we don't have any good pace bowler apart from Bumrah,Bhuvi,Shami & Ishant who improved after 50+ tests
Even Umesh is just overrated for pace like Wahab Riaz,the guy has just 1 5-fer in 40 tests
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The likes of Thakur aren't fit to tie Prasad's shoelaces.

We might not have McGraths rotting in domestic circuit but surely do have better pacers than what we've assembled for this test.
 
As much trundler Prasad was, he formed a lethal partnership with Srinath for some time. Both had great SA and Eng tours in mid '90s.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Not so long ago a certain Vinay Kumar was playing a test in Aus
And then we had to tolerate certain Venkatesh Prasad during 90s & early 2000s so we are quite used to it
It's just certain fans overreact way too much as if we have Marshalls or Mcgraths in our domestic cricket
Fact is we don't have any good pace bowler apart from Bumrah,Bhuvi,Shami & Ishant who improved after 50+ tests
Even Umesh is just overrated for pace like Wahab Riaz,the guy has just 1 5-fer in 40 tests
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Surely there are better guys than Thakur playing a Test, be it against contemporary WIN. And, he is not even match fit - didn't last 2 overs.
 
MP2011 said:
As much trundler Prasad was, he formed a lethal partnership with Srinath for some time. Both had great SA and Eng tours in mid '90s.
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Prashad was MRF player of the year in 1996-97 (A poor method used - factored volume only). Guy has a 10for in SAF & a 5For against PAK in WC.
 
No, that was other tyre company, CEAT not MRF!
 
Prasad forever deserves a place in Indian fans' hearts just for that moment when he bowled Sohail in QF of WC '96. More than the result of that game, that dismissal shut Sohail up which was worth its weight in gold. The ones who saw that game LIVE will understand that.
 
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MP2011 said:
Prasad forever deserves a place in Indian fans' hearts just for that moment when he bowled Sohail in QF of WC '96. More than the result of that game, that dismissal shut Sohail up which was worth its weight in gold. The ones who saw that game LIVE will understand that.
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It was a crucial wicket , because the way the pakistan openers were going , they would have done some serious damage to the chase.
 
Justcrazy said:
It was a crucial wicket , because the way the pakistan openers were going , they would have done some serious damage to the chase.
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Agreed. Sohail and Anwar had raked something like 84 runs in 10 overs. Just had an asking rate of 5 in last 40 overs.
 
Indian fans need to learn to suck it up. Favoritism, regionalism and nepotism is as much a fact of life as anywhere else in the subcontinent.

What else can explain preferring this stunted trundler over Saini, Rajpoot, Siraj?
 
MP2011 said:
Prasad forever deserves a place in Indian fans' hearts just for that moment when he bowled Sohail in QF of WC '96. More than the result of that game, that dismissal shut Sohail up which was worth its weight in gold. The ones who saw that game LIVE will understand that.
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Ask any English player from the 90's and they will be all praise for Prasad. The guy was lethal in helpful conditions and had a knack of bringing his A game when playing against Pakistan.
One of the few bowlers who had perfected the leg cutter. He was more than a decent bowler for about 3-4 yrs.
 
Rightarmfast said:
Ask any English player from the 90's and they will be all praise for Prasad. The guy was lethal in helpful conditions and had a knack of bringing his A game when playing against Pakistan.
One of the few bowlers who had perfected the leg cutter. He was more than a decent bowler for about 3-4 yrs.
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Yeah.. Had a great leg cutter. However he was murdered mercilessly by the likes of Jaya and Anwar.
 
I do not want him anywhere near Indian team, don't want him to be injured for his entire life. Get context!

I wish him a speedy recovery from the injury he suffered.
 
Rightarmfast said:
Ask any English player from the 90's and they will be all praise for Prasad. The guy was lethal in helpful conditions and had a knack of bringing his A game when playing against Pakistan.
One of the few bowlers who had perfected the leg cutter. He was more than a decent bowler for about 3-4 yrs.
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It's a massive insult to Venky to be compared to this thakur guy. Venky had the highest workload for any bowler in the 96-99 era which resulted in his loss of pace by 1999 as he was bowled into the ground. This guy cant bowl 4 overs without getting injured.
 
absoultely pathetic, my opinion of kohli as a captain has become lesser than zero. He is useless as a captain. As good a batsman he is, he is useless. Shardul the trash is being tried out ? And no chance for the newbie (in-waiting-forever) mayank ?
 
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Whats the point of bowling Umesh who has only leaked boundaries? Just bowl all 3 spinners in tandem and get done away with this farce!

Probably Kohli is trying to justify his selection of Umesh.
 
Why is Thakur there even in the squad?

Is he really a Thakur and, threatening selectors and captain to have him in the team?

By the looks of it, doesn't appear to be. Gets injured after 3 overs.

Or is it because we didn't have any trundler for some years, and we were badly missing them?
 
How dare you call him a trundler? Don't you know he bowls at 140-145Ks?
 
WI seems to be so hopeless on this tour that it isn't even funny anymore. That's why I'll reserve my judgement on Shaw till he plays something of note in Aus.
 
India lost reviews but Umesh I think un -lucky koz bail was off in DRS but not consider by Third umpire

Good score by WI 86 for 3 plus Debutant Thakur limiping after 10 balls.Umesh removed well set Hope for 36.WI lost reviews

32/0
86/3 at Lunch
 
OyeOye said:
India lost reviews but Umesh I think un -lucky koz bail was off in DRS but not consider by Third umpire

Good score by WI 86 for 3 plus Debutant Thakur limiping after 10 balls.Umesh removed well set Hope for 36.WI lost reviews

32/0
86/3 at Lunch
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You don't lose reviews for umpire's call.
 
MP2011 said:
Prasad forever deserves a place in Indian fans' hearts just for that moment when he bowled Sohail in QF of WC '96. More than the result of that game, that dismissal shut Sohail up which was worth its weight in gold. The ones who saw that game LIVE will understand that.
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Prasad is a legend in his own way! He was unlucky to have coincided with changing cricket trends/transition (expansion of ODIs, powerplay, batsmen favoring rules, etc) If he had played the game just a decade or five years before, he would have had much impressive stats! Still he was not at all bad at least in Tests! He was more than good in places like England, South Africa and was doing decent job even in tests in India (taking the shine of the ball, keeping batsmen quite and occasional wickets with the new balls!). Definitely not like getting injured after bowling few balls & getting feared to bowl at batsmen! Used to give his 100% effort on the field just like his other state-mates Kumble, Srinath, Dravid... It is criminal to compare him (a pure Vegetarian athlete) with today's Indian trundlers who have all turned into gyms & non-veg diets, just because he didn't bowl like Shoaib Akther!
 
MMHS said:
Prashad was MRF player of the year in 1996-97 (A poor method used - factored volume only). Guy has a 10for in SAF & a 5For against PAK in WC.
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Anyone can have some memorable performances after playing 33 tests & 161 Odis.
Such players should be judged by overall stats
Playing in an era where other teams had 3-4 bowlers averaging sub 25(even Zim had Heath Streak who was better than our bowlers)Venky Prasad was striking @35
and the 10-for against SA came in Durban,a pitch which was worse than the Jo'burg pitch where we played this year
One off performances won't make him a good bowler,he was a very average bowler throughout his career
The 90s attack we had took our cricket backwards,we didn't even win a single match outside Asia,even Zim defeated us


But likes of Venky Prasad had the previlege to fail whenever they wanted and no one says anything to them because of our mentality of being happy with mediocrity

And not tot forget there were also certain Doda Ganesh travelling with the team on that tour and a year later David Johnson made his debut,someone who was failure even at the domestic level

Thakur atleast has good performances for India A
 
Kohli said:
Why is Thakur there even in the squad?

Is he really a Thakur and, threatening selectors and captain to have him in the team?

By the looks of it, doesn't appear to be. Gets injured after 3 overs.

Or is it because we didn't have any trundler for some years, and we were badly missing them?
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Thakur of Sholay can bowl better than this Thakur. :inti
 
Good to see Umesh troubling WI batsmen with his pace. If only he was a bit more accurate!
 
do not make any personal remarks about posters
 


Ravi s's (coach)all accounting job done by thakur ke baap.
Shan ( Pak) ka connection jaisa kuch hai.
 


Thakur ne haath nahin Diya lekin Paav de Diya

4 down, Kuleep gets 2nd Hetmyer gone
 
Yes these 3 spinners are more than enough to bowl opponents out in India! But just imagine what happens if guy like Thakur is accidentally selected to play a test match in SENA countries! Nightmarish selection policies by MSK Prasad, Kohli & Shastri!
 
100 international wickets for Kuldeep across all formats
Averages just above 18
Whatta bowler

Kuldeep & Bumrah have raised the standards of our bowling
Hopefully they continue their good run so that out current & future generation won't have to be happy with the medicorty like some of our 90s fans :vk
 
Not a bad crowd considering the opposition AND the fact that stadium has no shading for vast stretches. My guess would be somewhere between 5-10K.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
Anyone can have some memorable performances after playing 33 tests & 161 Odis.
Such players should be judged by overall stats
Playing in an era where other teams had 3-4 bowlers averaging sub 25(even Zim had Heath Streak who was better than our bowlers)Venky Prasad was striking @35
and the 10-for against SA came in Durban,a pitch which was worse than the Jo'burg pitch where we played this year
One off performances won't make him a good bowler,he was a very average bowler throughout his career
The 90s attack we had took our cricket backwards,we didn't even win a single match outside Asia,even Zim defeated us


But likes of Venky Prasad had the previlege to fail whenever they wanted and no one says anything to them because of our mentality of being happy with mediocrity

And not tot forget there were also certain Doda Ganesh travelling with the team on that tour and a year later David Johnson made his debut,someone who was failure even at the domestic level

Thakur atleast has good performances for India A
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Sometimes you cannot just go with records and see beyond it (the context, etc). Even Bhuvaneshwar has similar records today but he is preferred based on impact!
 
MP2011 said:
IIRC, Thakur was sent back from Asia cup on account of being injured and he is now opening Indian attack in a test match and hobbling off again after bowling just 2 overs!!

Its more than just shambles....Don't have apt word for this. Likes of Dhoni (in his heydays) and Fletcher were so much better than what we are witnessing nowadays from this Indian team mafia.
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Lol! Dhoni called up RP Singh from a vacation straight into England Tests. Not to forget his love for Praveen Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Vinay Kumar. That mafia was even worse
 
cricketindiafan said:
Lol! Dhoni called up RP Singh from a vacation straight into England Tests. Not to forget his love for Praveen Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Vinay Kumar. That mafia was even worse
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I guess Dhoni preferred slower bowlers to keep wickets on those fast pitches! I suspect he has some problems with reflexes to quicker bowlers! He wants to be hero for stumping against spinners and runouts from deep throws!
 
Thats equally deplorable. I forgot but Dhoni himself was no saint in this regard, having played so many trundlers under him.

However I truly despise India's present day cricket establishment. The kind of saintly poise Kohli & Shastri project in media as if fitness and cricketing skills are the only things which matter for selection and what we get is totally different.

To their credit, they did get us rid of Ashwin & Jadeja, the LoI bowlers and introduced wrist spin in Indian cricket. However their batting selections are absolutely horrible to say the least.
 
RamLakhan said:
Sometimes you cannot just go with records and see beyond it (the context, etc). Even Bhuvaneshwar has similar records today but he is preferred based on impact!
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Bhuvi averages 26 with bowl
He was India's best performer on the Eng tour in 2014
In SA he performed well in the 1st test but was wrongly dropped for the 2nd then cakeback in the 3rd & was awarded Man of the match
He has a match winning spell in WI in match which was heading towards draw,the Same Windies had secured a draw in the previous test
If he was fit for Eng series this year,we might have even won that series

In Odis he has been average and u can bash him for that but in tests he is already among the best we have had
 
lol just realized that WI have already exhausted both their reviews. Looks like they are taking private tuition from Kohli on how to use your reviews.
 
Both spinners leaking runs, this pair looks very comfortable out there.
 
MP2011 said:
lol just realized that WI have already exhausted both their reviews. Looks like they are taking private tuition from Kohli on how to use your reviews.
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Looks like Kohli took an excellent review right now
 
Josh said:
Looks like Kohli took an excellent review right now
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Thats more of an exception rather than a norm. If you've followed his review taking skills closely, you'd know what most of us know already.
 
Jadeja has mostly looked toothless today. However this is a first day pitch and that was kinda expected.
 
I think we missed a great chance in not letting Mayank making his test debut here. Would've been nice to gauge what stuff he is made up of before Aus tour. I don't think we're playing another home test in next 12 months at least.

Now we are stuck with Rahul for Aus tour.
 
Slowly this is turning out to be an interesting match with WI batting first! Do they have bowlers to put pressure on Indian batsmen?
 
MP2011 said:
I think we missed a great chance in not letting Mayank making his test debut here. Would've been nice to gauge what stuff he is made up of before Aus tour. I don't think we're playing another home test in next 12 months at least.

Now we are stuck with Rahul for Aus tour.
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Rahul has experience and success in Australia. Preferring Mayank based on 1 home test is suicidal! We already have probably 1 rookie going (Prithvi). We can't risk two of them (Don't think Vijay is going to come back!) However Mayank should have been tried and tested much before!
 
RamLakhan said:
Rahul has experience and success in Australia. Preferring Mayank based on 1 home test is suicidal! We already have probably 1 rookie going (Prithvi). We can't risk two of them (Don't think Vijay is going to come back!) However Mayank should have been tried and tested much before!
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Not saying he should be first choice opener in Aus, but should've been tried at least once before that tour. We missed that chance courtesy the insecure souls of Indian cricket!!
 
This partnership should take WI upto 350 at least.WI should eye at 400.
 
MP2011 said:
Not saying he should be first choice opener in Aus, but should've been tried at least once before that tour. We missed that chance courtesy the insecure souls of Indian cricket!!
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Mayank should have opened and Rahul should have batted at No.3 in this series. Rahul doesn't have technical deficiency as opener, but I guess he is going through some rough mental issues. Let him just settle and get a groove of some consistency! He can be consistent as opener as well as we saw against Australia! Pujara should have been rested or better sent early to Australia along with Rahane for practice! Don't want Pujara to continue looking like Bradman in India! Nair, Vihari everyone should have played! If you can't experiment this much in home test series against WI, then what else way we can experiment?
 
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