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England spiralled to a miserable and massive defeat by India on the fourth day of the third Test in Rajkot.India won by 434 runs
England 122 all out (39.4 ov, target: 557) v India
england should potts and ollie instead of jimmy and rehan.
In terms of Test match losses, this ranks among the most disappointing for England(BazBall). Considering the circumstances, it might be prudent to give Joe Root and Johnny Bairstow a break from the intense scrutiny they've faced.
Root is the all rounder in the team on this tour, he will be backed. Bairstow however has become a proper passenger and it’s time for him to go.
At Rajkot flat patta wicket if you want to draw a test you can. You should take a lot of time to get your runs especially in the first dig. Scoring too quickly will come back to bite you here.
And to think some posters were giving him a pasting for playing for his doubleI don't think Jaiswal bashed even a domestic team like this. That was some pasting in the afternoon session.
yea That was stupid. He earned it. He was more aggressive than required for the best part of the innings. So few singles to get to 200 is totally deserving.And to think some posters were giving him a pasting for playing for his double
i meant ollie robinson not stone. i do like stone, infact stone would be a decent option but that man can never stay fit. i dont know why. he is so fragile. i do like potts.I agree, apart from Hartley who is doing a tidy job these England spinners aren’t ready for this level at the moment, go with a seam attack + Hartley (and Root).
The way Eng play they sure do bring backsides to seats and empty bars ....England has done well this series except the last 2 days. Their aggressive approach can look great but also backfire like it did today, just that Root should be allowed to play his natural game. As an Indian fan I am enjoying England's top order batting and Stokes' funky field settings.
This. You have to bat for longer periods of time.
The biggest concern is how will English bowlers keep coming back for spell after spell especially when they are only going to bat for 70 odd overs?
Next match February 23So will England travel to Dubai again before the next test? I say come to Pakistan and have some nice Chai️
Next test matches are in sep against bng.so by that time pant will be back and jurel will be the back up. once pant is back at number 6, kl and sarfaraz will have to fight for number 5 spot.so it's almost impossible for Iyer to comeback.We all thought Bharat was gone for good last time. Still he came back. And Iyer is not going anywhere, unfortunately
Bazball since Wellington Test 2023
Won 3, Lost 5. In this period,
Jonny Bairstow is averaging 30 with the bat.
Jimmy Anderson is averaging 54(last 13 innings - 65) with the ball.
Ben Foakes is averaging 18 with the bat.
Do you think Jimmy will play on till next Ashes as English players love to have their swansong at Ashes? Next Ashes is what still 22 months away?They’ve had their toughest opponents in this time, so you would expect them to lose more. Two of the losses were by 2 wickets and 1 run. Not a disaster.
Bairstow has run out of lives and needs to be chopped I think. Foakes seems to be a specialist wicketkeeper but I’m not sure who else can come in, be a better batsman and at least remain competent with the gloves (Bairstow is incompetent) — as for Anderson, he was so ineffectual in the Ashes that it was just strange, but he had a really decent 2nd Test in this series (5-76 across two innings), so he’s not quite finished yet imo.
potts took 20 wickets in 3 fc matches in eng lions tour of india on pitches very similar to this. he should be in the england squad tbh.i meant ollie robinson not stone. i do like stone, infact stone would be a decent option but that man can never stay fit. i dont know why. he is so fragile. i do like potts.
I liked what Stokes had to say to the press. Signals belief in his team and I am 100 percent the next two tests won't be a walkover.
There is a catch though. If the bowlers get tired quickly cause of heat, then they will get a massive hammering.potts took 20 wickets in 3 fc matches in eng lions tour of india on pitches very similar to this. he should be in the england squad tbh.
england are better off playing 3 seamers than including rehan as a second spinner. this is what worked for them in pakistan as well for most of the pakistan tour.
stokes relies on the bouncer barrage tactic alot and anderson cant execute that. robinson and atkinson will come in next test most likely
Add Gilljaiswal, sarfraz and pant. what an explosive batting order that will be.
robinson and atkinson haven't played a single test and are fresh. robinson has executed the bumper barrage tactic before as well.There is a catch though. If the bowlers get tired quickly cause of heat, then they will get a massive hammering.
Rahul still has utility. He is not going anywhere for the nex 4 years.Add Gill
Sundar to the mix
Sai sudarshan looks good too.
It's a complete team.
They don't need iyera, bharat and limp cricketers like Rahul who add negativity to the team.
Imo he should be thrown out. Timid cricketers like him shouldn't play. But each to their own.Rahul still has utility. He is not going anywhere for the nex 4 years.
Jaiswal
Sudarshan
Gill
KL Rahul(c)
Sarfraz
Pant
Axar
Washington
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Siraj
This will be the Test team in 3 years from now for home conditions. Not sure if Kohli will still be around at that time. He is 35 already. Perhaps on his last legs.
Won't be Easy. England lions got pasted by India A tbh. They lost 2 -0 in the 3 test series. And heavy defeat iirc.robinson and atkinson haven't played a single test and are fresh. robinson has executed the bumper barrage tactic before as well.
stokes needs two seamers executing it in tandem and jimmy wasnt one of them.
Rahul is a nothing cricketer. We'd be better off without him and his mental fragilities.Imo he should be thrown out. Timid cricketers like him shouldn't play. But each to their own.
He is a serial loser from what I have seen.
Do you think Jimmy will play on till next Ashes as English players love to have their swansong at Ashes? Next Ashes is what still 22 months away?
Don't you think it'd have been better for Jimmy had he retired along with Broad?
Unfortunately at this rate it looks like gap will only increase.
Important thing for England is that they don’t get totally stuffed in the next two games. I have seen many long England tours that go deep and end horrendously.
England fans can take losses on the chin, those of us who have been around the block have endured plenty of losses with England. It’s more the manner of the defeat (when it’s this bad) which can really burn.
Next time we just want to see the team be more competitive than they were in Rajkot. This was a rubbish performance where a lot went wrong. We are all hoping that it won’t be repeated.
Indian team was weaker in first 2 tests. Gill, Iyer aren't great against spin. Bharat was poor with bat and gloves. Kuldeep as bowler is massive upgrade over Axar who has lost it with ball in last 2 years. Jadeja was missing in 2nd test. Mukesh Kumar is nothing bowler and Siraj can at least bowl full tilt on flat pitches.
Strategy wise team has made cautious effort not to throw wicket and bowlers have some idea how to counter spin.
Once they close last gap of Patidar, it would be really difficult to compete with this team. KL Rahul isn't great batsman but will be upgrade over Patidar for sure.
Just saw the stats, this is India's biggest win in terms of runs - 434 runs...wow - that is awesome!
I blame stokes. He expects everyone else to be explosive and play natural game but he keeps on playing tuk tuk cricket. He averages like 27 in this series.I hate it when a good match ends early. I was looking forward to the morning session tomorrow - all tight and tense...every ball a drama. Damn England for collapsing like a pack of cards l
Like I mentioned, it looked to me like india dozed off.India had no business losing the first test. Look at the wickets they gifted in the first innings. ALl getting out to long hops and full bungers. It was a terrible effort that so many batsmen failed to convert the starts. They all went for glory shots and ended up posting atleast 100 runs less.
Problem is if England go on the defensive approach then it puts more pressure on themselves as India will be relentless. The more maidens the more deadly indian bowlers become. Especially bumrah kuldeep and jadeja.Not to take away from a great innings from Pope, but India were guilty of being complacent of their invincibility on home soil in the first test. They had no business losing that test after the massive first innings lead but they did and that served as a great wake up call to get their act in order which they did in the last 2 tests. Similarly, England’s conviction about the harakiri known as Bazball surely has taken a hit now and hopefully it leads them to rethink their strategy in the fourth test.
I don't think kl will be the test captain. Pant will get it after aus tour as he was on the verge of it.Kohli may play tests for another 2 years atleast,so it's a direct fight between kl and sarfaraz for number 5 spot.After 2 years,kl will be done by some other youngster.Once dravid goes,we may get rid of that guy.Rahul still has utility. He is not going anywhere for the nex 4 years.
Jaiswal
Sudarshan
Gill
KL Rahul(c)
Sarfraz
Pant
Axar
Washington
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Siraj
This will be the Test team in 3 years from now for home conditions. Not sure if Kohli will still be around at that time. He is 35 already. Perhaps on his last legs.
Only team that had opportunity to be 3-0 was India lol india was the one who took massive lead. Infact they should have taken even bigger lead.England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.
This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.
If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.
This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.
If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
I think in Bazball world , England are 3-0 up in this series. LolEngland had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.
This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.
If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
Plus india is missing 3 or 4 key players.Only team that had opportunity to be 3-0 was India lol india was the one who took massive lead. Infact they should have taken even bigger lead.
Give them a moral title.I think in Bazball world , England are 3-0 up in this series. Lol
New Zealand is a joke team to be number 1 right nowWhat a massive victory, probably greatest of all time…. Young Indian team recorded splendid victory without Virat Kohli..
Indian team truly deserves World No.1 spot
Yep they need to strike same sanity.England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.
This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.
If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
Yeah, he was immense at Vizag. But going forward, tests like Vizag will be far and few and he is not getting younger.I was really surprised when he didn’t.
He showed at Vizag that he’s still got something to offer. I don’t think he should continue until the Ashes. Maybe get his 700th wicket, do this home summer and call it a day.
Yeah, he was immense at Vizag. But going forward, tests like Vizag will be far and few and he is not getting younger.
However even at 41, he looks as he did 10 years back, fitness wise. And he still dives in the field to save runs.
What ?? How do you arrive at that conclusion ?
They have won toss and put up 400+ in the past and still lost by an innings. It is extremely hard to win test matches in India.
That's true. I'd say even Glenn McGrath looked a better batsman than Jimmy.The really funny thing now is his batting. Its the only time he looks like a 41 year old trying to play international cricket. He has always been pretty bad, but can’t even get bat on ball anymore now. Absolute rabbit.
Well he shines in his Day job -that is bowling and he still takes bucketfuls of wickets.....also he fielded wonderfully in this series, cue at least 2-3 terrific diving efforts....i'd take him being a rabbit with the bat any day as he is a genuine threat everytime he has the ball in hand.The really funny thing now is his batting. Its the only time he looks like a 41 year old trying to play international cricket. He has always been pretty bad, but can’t even get bat on ball anymore now. Absolute rabbit.
Yep that Strauss led side was phenomenal that also defeated Aus in Aus.India are missing some players. England should've been 2-1 at least.
England from 2010-2012 probably would've batted India out of the game in both 2nd Test and 3rd Test.
Except the one time when he added 198 runs for 10th wicket against India ! Sheer tortureThe really funny thing now is his batting. Its the only time he looks like a 41 year old trying to play international cricket. He has always been pretty bad, but can’t even get bat on ball anymore now. Absolute rabbit.
Except the one time when he added 198 runs for 10th wicket against India ! Sheer torture