India (445 & 430/4d) defeat England (319 & 122) by 434 runs in third Test to take 2-1 lead in five Test match series

absolute thrasing this one

next game india should get a new youngster for useless patidar

england should potts and ollie instead of jimmy and rehan.
 
Got to take the rough with the smooth. I think ENG will be competitive in the next two tests.
 
Wow the wheels really game off. Fantastic win for India, to be missing some big names and be a man down yet win so emphatically is a real achievement.
 
Wow, the end came so quickly when it came....who'd think Mark wood would be the highest scorer :)
feel good for the youngsters in our side - but biggest test for Sarf , jurel and co would be in SENA conditions.
for Eng - The came they tried, it was always entertaining and they are surely the box office side out there.
for us - heartening that we played with 10 guys for a whole day and i was sure root and co would pile a mountain of runs...but good spirit shown by the young guys....
MOTM - shared between Jadza and Jaizball?what say :Dah
 
India won by 434 runs

England 122 all out (39.4 ov, target: 557) v India
England spiralled to a miserable and massive defeat by India on the fourth day of the third Test in Rajkot.

In perhaps their worst performance since captain Ben Stokes and coach Brendon McCullum took charge, England were dismantled by Yashasvi Jaiswal's 214 not out, then capitulated with the bat.

Set a notional 557 to win, the tourists were bundled out for an embarrassing 122 in a blur of irresponsible strokes.

The 434-run margin of defeat is England's largest in terms of runs since 1934.

India, who take a 2-1 lead in the series, were led by the brilliant Jaiswal's second double century in as many Tests.

The opener returned on 104 after retiring hurt on the third evening and took his tally to 12 sixes, equalling the record for a single Test innings.

In partnership with Sarfaraz Khan, who made 68 not out, Jaiswal took India to a declaration on 430-4.

Left-arm spinner Ravindra Jadeja ran through England's middle-order for figures of 5-41, to go with the century he made in the first innings.

The fourth Test begins on Friday in Ranchi, where an India win will preserve an unbeaten home record that stretches back to 2012.

This was an astonishing implosion from England, who began Saturday with a golden opportunity to take control of the match, only to be crushed by Sunday evening.

It was a performance from a bygone age. England dropped crucial chances, misused the decision review system and at times saw their bowling dismantled by the India batting.

Most disappointing was England's own batting. They surrendered the initiative with a collapse of eight wickets for 95 runs in their first innings, then were absolutely awful in the second. So often England talk about their love of chases, whereas just taking this game into a final day would have been minimum requirement.

What makes the defeat all the more galling is the fact India played more than a day of the match with 10 men after Ravichandran Ashwin returned home because of a family emergency. Ashwin, who withdrew on Friday evening, returned on Sunday and took a wicket in his six overs.

For any team to win one Test in India, let alone an entire series, is an incredibly difficult task, yet England have let chances slip by.

The superb win in the first Test in Hyderabad now feels a long time ago, surpassed by the wastefulness of the second and third Tests. Somehow, they must regroup for Ranchi.

BBC Sport
 
In terms of Test match losses, this ranks among the most disappointing for England(BazBall). Considering the circumstances, it might be prudent to give Joe Root and Johnny Bairstow a break from the intense scrutiny they've faced.
 
england should potts and ollie instead of jimmy and rehan.

I agree, apart from Hartley who is doing a tidy job these England spinners aren’t ready for this level at the moment, go with a seam attack + Hartley (and Root).
 
In terms of Test match losses, this ranks among the most disappointing for England(BazBall). Considering the circumstances, it might be prudent to give Joe Root and Johnny Bairstow a break from the intense scrutiny they've faced.

Root is the all rounder in the team on this tour, he will be backed. Bairstow however has become a proper passenger and it’s time for him to go.
 
Root is the all rounder in the team on this tour, he will be backed. Bairstow however has become a proper passenger and it’s time for him to go.

At this stage Root probably adds more value than Stokes (ignoring captaincy part).
 
At Rajkot flat patta wicket if you want to draw a test you can. You should take a lot of time to get your runs especially in the first dig. Scoring too quickly will come back to bite you here.
 
It's a short break to the next one. Not much time to make big adjustments. This is usually around the time visiting teams to India start disintegrating and going through the motions. The heat, the crowd, the need to constantly bat with the highest vigilance against top quality spin starts getting to them.

Let's if this interesting England side can rev themselves up again. Today was definitely a total capitulation. You could see the intensity and spring in their step was missing.
 
At Rajkot flat patta wicket if you want to draw a test you can. You should take a lot of time to get your runs especially in the first dig. Scoring too quickly will come back to bite you here.

This. You have to bat for longer periods of time.

The biggest concern is how will English bowlers keep coming back for spell after spell especially when they are only going to bat for 70 odd overs?
 
I don't think Jaiswal bashed even a domestic team like this. That was some pasting in the afternoon session.
 
I don't think Jaiswal bashed even a domestic team like this. That was some pasting in the afternoon session.
And to think some posters were giving him a pasting for playing for his double
 
England has done well this series except the last 2 days. Their aggressive approach can look great but also backfire like it did today, just that Root should be allowed to play his natural game. As an Indian fan I am enjoying England's top order batting and Stokes' funky field settings.
 
And to think some posters were giving him a pasting for playing for his double
yea That was stupid. He earned it. He was more aggressive than required for the best part of the innings. So few singles to get to 200 is totally deserving.
 
I agree, apart from Hartley who is doing a tidy job these England spinners aren’t ready for this level at the moment, go with a seam attack + Hartley (and Root).
i meant ollie robinson not stone. i do like stone, infact stone would be a decent option but that man can never stay fit. i dont know why. he is so fragile. i do like potts.
 
This tops our win against NZ in Mumbai 2 years back, there Mayank outscored the entire NZ batting across both innings.
 
England has done well this series except the last 2 days. Their aggressive approach can look great but also backfire like it did today, just that Root should be allowed to play his natural game. As an Indian fan I am enjoying England's top order batting and Stokes' funky field settings.
The way Eng play they sure do bring backsides to seats and empty bars :)....
they got a good prospect in Hartley, looks like a confident guy - basically every touring side to India has alwys one spinner who gets a bagful, i recall steve o'keefe in 2017 and matt kuhnman in 2023 series, and now you have hartley who is shining here.
And yeah, funky field settings are awesome to watch as well :)
 
This. You have to bat for longer periods of time.

The biggest concern is how will English bowlers keep coming back for spell after spell especially when they are only going to bat for 70 odd overs?

Wood only got 10 overs in the second innings, was obviously exhausted
 
Just saw the stats, this is India's biggest win in terms of runs - 434 runs...wow - that is awesome!
 
Bazball since Wellington Test 2023

Won 3, Lost 5. In this period,

Jonny Bairstow is averaging 30 with the bat.

Jimmy Anderson is averaging 54(last 13 innings - 65) with the ball.

Ben Foakes is averaging 18 with the bat.
 
We all thought Bharat was gone for good last time. Still he came back. And Iyer is not going anywhere, unfortunately
Next test matches are in sep against bng.so by that time pant will be back and jurel will be the back up. once pant is back at number 6, kl and sarfaraz will have to fight for number 5 spot.so it's almost impossible for Iyer to comeback.
 
Bazball since Wellington Test 2023

Won 3, Lost 5. In this period,

Jonny Bairstow is averaging 30 with the bat.

Jimmy Anderson is averaging 54(last 13 innings - 65) with the ball.

Ben Foakes is averaging 18 with the bat.

They’ve had their toughest opponents in this time, so you would expect them to lose more. Two of the losses were by 2 wickets and 1 run. Not a disaster.

Bairstow has run out of lives and needs to be chopped I think. Foakes seems to be a specialist wicketkeeper but I’m not sure who else can come in, be a better batsman and at least remain competent with the gloves (Bairstow is incompetent) — as for Anderson, he was so ineffectual in the Ashes that it was just strange, but he had a really decent 2nd Test in this series (5-76 across two innings), so he’s not quite finished yet imo.
 
They’ve had their toughest opponents in this time, so you would expect them to lose more. Two of the losses were by 2 wickets and 1 run. Not a disaster.

Bairstow has run out of lives and needs to be chopped I think. Foakes seems to be a specialist wicketkeeper but I’m not sure who else can come in, be a better batsman and at least remain competent with the gloves (Bairstow is incompetent) — as for Anderson, he was so ineffectual in the Ashes that it was just strange, but he had a really decent 2nd Test in this series (5-76 across two innings), so he’s not quite finished yet imo.
Do you think Jimmy will play on till next Ashes as English players love to have their swansong at Ashes? Next Ashes is what still 22 months away?

Don't you think it'd have been better for Jimmy had he retired along with Broad?
 
Stokes is still hopeful to come out with 3-2 scoreline in this series. Also, he is mighty close to start bowling now.
 
i meant ollie robinson not stone. i do like stone, infact stone would be a decent option but that man can never stay fit. i dont know why. he is so fragile. i do like potts.
potts took 20 wickets in 3 fc matches in eng lions tour of india on pitches very similar to this. he should be in the england squad tbh.

england are better off playing 3 seamers than including rehan as a second spinner. this is what worked for them in pakistan as well for most of the pakistan tour.

stokes relies on the bouncer barrage tactic alot and anderson cant execute that. robinson and atkinson will come in next test most likely
 
England batsmen only had to bide 2 odd hours without losing a wicket against a depleted Indian attack on Day 3 morning. Had they done that, rest of the day was theirs, could've toyed around with the Indian bowlers... played bazzball, stick cricket whatever they wanted. The annoying thing is that England have the more experienced/accomplished batting line up.
 
I liked what Stokes had to say to the press. Signals belief in his team and I am 100 percent the next two tests won't be a walkover.
 
I liked what Stokes had to say to the press. Signals belief in his team and I am 100 percent the next two tests won't be a walkover.

Unfortunately at this rate it looks like gap will only increase.
 
potts took 20 wickets in 3 fc matches in eng lions tour of india on pitches very similar to this. he should be in the england squad tbh.

england are better off playing 3 seamers than including rehan as a second spinner. this is what worked for them in pakistan as well for most of the pakistan tour.

stokes relies on the bouncer barrage tactic alot and anderson cant execute that. robinson and atkinson will come in next test most likely
There is a catch though. If the bowlers get tired quickly cause of heat, then they will get a massive hammering.
 
jaiswal, sarfraz and pant. what an explosive batting order that will be.
Add Gill
Sundar to the mix
Sai sudarshan looks good too.
It's a complete team.

They don't need iyera, bharat and limp cricketers like Rahul who add negativity to the team.
 
There is a catch though. If the bowlers get tired quickly cause of heat, then they will get a massive hammering.
robinson and atkinson haven't played a single test and are fresh. robinson has executed the bumper barrage tactic before as well.

stokes needs two seamers executing it in tandem and jimmy wasnt one of them.
 
Add Gill
Sundar to the mix
Sai sudarshan looks good too.
It's a complete team.

They don't need iyera, bharat and limp cricketers like Rahul who add negativity to the team.
Rahul still has utility. He is not going anywhere for the nex 4 years.

Jaiswal
Sudarshan
Gill
KL Rahul(c)
Sarfraz
Pant
Axar
Washington
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Siraj

This will be the Test team in 3 years from now for home conditions. Not sure if Kohli will still be around at that time. He is 35 already. Perhaps on his last legs.
 
Rahul still has utility. He is not going anywhere for the nex 4 years.

Jaiswal
Sudarshan
Gill
KL Rahul(c)
Sarfraz
Pant
Axar
Washington
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Siraj

This will be the Test team in 3 years from now for home conditions. Not sure if Kohli will still be around at that time. He is 35 already. Perhaps on his last legs.
Imo he should be thrown out. Timid cricketers like him shouldn't play. But each to their own.

He is a serial loser from what I have seen.
 
robinson and atkinson haven't played a single test and are fresh. robinson has executed the bumper barrage tactic before as well.

stokes needs two seamers executing it in tandem and jimmy wasnt one of them.
Won't be Easy. England lions got pasted by India A tbh. They lost 2 -0 in the 3 test series. And heavy defeat iirc.

Bowlers just cannot afford to be tired, CAUSE if india grinds them out, it's over.
.but yes Atkinson and Ollie robbo is a good call. And potts.
 
Do you think Jimmy will play on till next Ashes as English players love to have their swansong at Ashes? Next Ashes is what still 22 months away?

Don't you think it'd have been better for Jimmy had he retired along with Broad?

I was really surprised when he didn’t.

He showed at Vizag that he’s still got something to offer. I don’t think he should continue until the Ashes. Maybe get his 700th wicket, do this home summer and call it a day.
 
Unfortunately at this rate it looks like gap will only increase.

Important thing for England is that they don’t get totally stuffed in the next two games. I have seen many long England tours that go deep and end horrendously.

England fans can take losses on the chin, those of us who have been around the block have endured plenty of losses with England. It’s more the manner of the defeat (when it’s this bad) which can really burn.

Next time we just want to see the team be more competitive than they were in Rajkot. This was a rubbish performance where a lot went wrong. We are all hoping that it won’t be repeated.
 
I hate it when a good match ends early. I was looking forward to the morning session tomorrow - all tight and tense...every ball a drama. Damn England for collapsing like a pack of cards l
 
Important thing for England is that they don’t get totally stuffed in the next two games. I have seen many long England tours that go deep and end horrendously.

England fans can take losses on the chin, those of us who have been around the block have endured plenty of losses with England. It’s more the manner of the defeat (when it’s this bad) which can really burn.

Next time we just want to see the team be more competitive than they were in Rajkot. This was a rubbish performance where a lot went wrong. We are all hoping that it won’t be repeated.

Indian team was weaker in first 2 tests. Gill, Iyer aren't great against spin. Bharat was poor with bat and gloves. Kuldeep as bowler is massive upgrade over Axar who has lost it with ball in last 2 years. Jadeja was missing in 2nd test. Mukesh Kumar is nothing bowler and Siraj can at least bowl full tilt on flat pitches.

Strategy wise team has made cautious effort not to throw wicket and bowlers have some idea how to counter spin.

Once they close last gap of Patidar, it would be really difficult to compete with this team. KL Rahul isn't great batsman but will be upgrade over Patidar for sure.
 
Indian team was weaker in first 2 tests. Gill, Iyer aren't great against spin. Bharat was poor with bat and gloves. Kuldeep as bowler is massive upgrade over Axar who has lost it with ball in last 2 years. Jadeja was missing in 2nd test. Mukesh Kumar is nothing bowler and Siraj can at least bowl full tilt on flat pitches.

Strategy wise team has made cautious effort not to throw wicket and bowlers have some idea how to counter spin.

Once they close last gap of Patidar, it would be really difficult to compete with this team. KL Rahul isn't great batsman but will be upgrade over Patidar for sure.

India had no business losing the first test. Look at the wickets they gifted in the first innings. ALl getting out to long hops and full bungers. It was a terrible effort that so many batsmen failed to convert the starts. They all went for glory shots and ended up posting atleast 100 runs less.
 
The 1st inns collapse, just like in 2nd test cost England here. Bairstow has gone back to his usual tail ender settings.

Root needs to stop playing these dumb shots. Some of England batsmen seem to think that playing bazball means they can just keep playing dumb high risk, low success shots like root did

Momentum with India now to win series 4-1
 
Not to take away from a great innings from Pope, but India were guilty of being complacent of their invincibility on home soil in the first test. They had no business losing that test after the massive first innings lead but they did and that served as a great wake up call to get their act in order which they did in the last 2 tests. Similarly, England’s conviction about the harakiri known as Bazball surely has taken a hit now and hopefully it leads them to rethink their strategy in the fourth test.
 
Just saw the stats, this is India's biggest win in terms of runs - 434 runs...wow - that is awesome!

thats a Misleading stat ... to me the Mumbai, Chennai inngs defeat circa 2016 where Eng scored 400+ batting first and still went on to lose by an inngs are the most demoralizing loses that Eng has ever suffered when the match seemed to be headed towards a boring draw after India responded with 600+ and 700+ in their response only for Eng to implode spectacularly. Especially the 5th Test in Chennai ... they made 477 in 1st inngs and still lost !!



 
I hate it when a good match ends early. I was looking forward to the morning session tomorrow - all tight and tense...every ball a drama. Damn England for collapsing like a pack of cards l
I blame stokes. He expects everyone else to be explosive and play natural game but he keeps on playing tuk tuk cricket. He averages like 27 in this series.
Doesn't bowls either
 
India had no business losing the first test. Look at the wickets they gifted in the first innings. ALl getting out to long hops and full bungers. It was a terrible effort that so many batsmen failed to convert the starts. They all went for glory shots and ended up posting atleast 100 runs less.
Like I mentioned, it looked to me like india dozed off.
They took it too lightly with the lead and they dropped catches like 3 of them vs Pope.
 
Not to take away from a great innings from Pope, but India were guilty of being complacent of their invincibility on home soil in the first test. They had no business losing that test after the massive first innings lead but they did and that served as a great wake up call to get their act in order which they did in the last 2 tests. Similarly, England’s conviction about the harakiri known as Bazball surely has taken a hit now and hopefully it leads them to rethink their strategy in the fourth test.
Problem is if England go on the defensive approach then it puts more pressure on themselves as India will be relentless. The more maidens the more deadly indian bowlers become. Especially bumrah kuldeep and jadeja.

So the approach is correct. You need to take it to the Indian bowlers however you need extremely tight defensive technique as well to survive when the bowlers are bowling with vigour.
 
Rahul still has utility. He is not going anywhere for the nex 4 years.

Jaiswal
Sudarshan
Gill
KL Rahul(c)
Sarfraz
Pant
Axar
Washington
Kuldeep
Bumrah
Siraj

This will be the Test team in 3 years from now for home conditions. Not sure if Kohli will still be around at that time. He is 35 already. Perhaps on his last legs.
I don't think kl will be the test captain. Pant will get it after aus tour as he was on the verge of it.Kohli may play tests for another 2 years atleast,so it's a direct fight between kl and sarfaraz for number 5 spot.After 2 years,kl will be done by some other youngster.Once dravid goes,we may get rid of that guy.
 
England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.

This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.

If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
 
England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.

This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.

If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
Only team that had opportunity to be 3-0 was India lol india was the one who took massive lead. Infact they should have taken even bigger lead.
 
England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.

What ?? How do you arrive at that conclusion ?

This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.

If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.

They have won toss and put up 400+ in the past and still lost by an innings. It is extremely hard to win test matches in India.
 
England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.

This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.

If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
I think in Bazball world , England are 3-0 up in this series. Lol
 
What a massive victory, probably greatest of all time…. Young Indian team recorded splendid victory without Virat Kohli..

Indian team truly deserves World No.1 spot
 
Only team that had opportunity to be 3-0 was India lol india was the one who took massive lead. Infact they should have taken even bigger lead.
Plus india is missing 3 or 4 key players.
Pant shami sundar and kohli
And probably Rahul although india is better off without him in the long run.
 
What a massive victory, probably greatest of all time…. Young Indian team recorded splendid victory without Virat Kohli..

Indian team truly deserves World No.1 spot
New Zealand is a joke team to be number 1 right now
I hope Australia india or south africa make it to finals again.

I know we won't.
 
England had a great opportunity to be 3-0 but they are trailing 1-2 instead.

This is what happens when you don't bat long enough. Bazball needs to be mixed with common sense batting.

If you are not putting up 500 in India as a visiting team, it is hard to win.
Yep they need to strike same sanity.
 
I was really surprised when he didn’t.

He showed at Vizag that he’s still got something to offer. I don’t think he should continue until the Ashes. Maybe get his 700th wicket, do this home summer and call it a day.
Yeah, he was immense at Vizag. But going forward, tests like Vizag will be far and few and he is not getting younger.

However even at 41, he looks as he did 10 years back, fitness wise. And he still dives in the field to save runs.
 
Yeah, he was immense at Vizag. But going forward, tests like Vizag will be far and few and he is not getting younger.

However even at 41, he looks as he did 10 years back, fitness wise. And he still dives in the field to save runs.

The really funny thing now is his batting. Its the only time he looks like a 41 year old trying to play international cricket. He has always been pretty bad, but can’t even get bat on ball anymore now. Absolute rabbit.
 
What ?? How do you arrive at that conclusion ?



They have won toss and put up 400+ in the past and still lost by an innings. It is extremely hard to win test matches in India.

India are missing some players. England should've been 2-1 at least.

England from 2010-2012 probably would've batted India out of the game in both 2nd Test and 3rd Test.
 
The really funny thing now is his batting. Its the only time he looks like a 41 year old trying to play international cricket. He has always been pretty bad, but can’t even get bat on ball anymore now. Absolute rabbit.
That's true. I'd say even Glenn McGrath looked a better batsman than Jimmy.
 
The really funny thing now is his batting. Its the only time he looks like a 41 year old trying to play international cricket. He has always been pretty bad, but can’t even get bat on ball anymore now. Absolute rabbit.
Well he shines in his Day job -that is bowling and he still takes bucketfuls of wickets.....also he fielded wonderfully in this series, cue at least 2-3 terrific diving efforts....i'd take him being a rabbit with the bat any day as he is a genuine threat everytime he has the ball in hand.
That said, Eng gotta be careful with how they use him and obviously he cant ply every test in front of him....
 
India are missing some players. England should've been 2-1 at least.

England from 2010-2012 probably would've batted India out of the game in both 2nd Test and 3rd Test.
Yep that Strauss led side was phenomenal that also defeated Aus in Aus.
 
One should clearly agree that India gives better fight in SENA even if they lose matches/series... Most of the matches India lost in SENA these days are with smaller margins AND most times India were well in those games... I agree they are not winning enough series overseas, but they are far better than teams touring to India in this regard...!
 
The really funny thing now is his batting. Its the only time he looks like a 41 year old trying to play international cricket. He has always been pretty bad, but can’t even get bat on ball anymore now. Absolute rabbit.
Except the one time when he added 198 runs for 10th wicket against India ! Sheer torture
 
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