India v South Africa | 2nd Test - Day 3-5 | Kolkata | 16/02/10

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saffer said:
Fine , but only to be politically correct. In my heart though I just don't think there's anything special about scoring a hundred on batsman tracks like this. I'll give credit to South Africa for batting badly though. The Kallis shot , the De villiers run out...prince and Dumminy keep up their pathetic form. There is no way we should have gotten less than 600 if we had just played decently.

Anyway 1-1. Not the end of the world , cricket is the only real loser.

I would say the same about Indian batting and SA bowling in the first test then, Some pathethic shots lost us the match. No way Steyn should have got all those wickets
 
s2k said:
a pakistani team fan shouldnt call SA the chokers.....


lol pak team are not chokers, they may be losers but not chokers.

Remember indian in hyd ODI in 2009 vs aus?
And Against SL in kolkota in WC 96
well those where epic chokes were'nt they :)))
 
Indiafan said:
I would say the same about Indian batting and SA bowling in the first test then, Some pathethic shots lost us the match. No way Steyn should have got all those wickets


lol, this post sums it up...
dont argue to indian when indian is about to win.
they lose the sense of logic :))
 
abdul2009 said:
lol pak team are not chokers, they may be losers but not chokers.

Remember indian in hyd ODI in 2009 vs aus?
And Against SL in kolkota in WC 96
well those where epic chokes were'nt they :)))


please go through pakistans test matches in last 3 years....you will find engough chokes.....to last a life time..... i will not go any further back in time to find many more......
 
abdul2009 said:
lol pak team are not chokers, they may be losers but not chokers.

Remember indian in hyd ODI in 2009 vs aus?
And Against SL in kolkota in WC 96
well those where epic chokes were'nt they :)))
Wat about t20 2007 final
99 wc final
 
abdul2009 said:
lol, this post sums it up...
dont argue to indian when indian is about to win.
they lose the sense of logic :))


at least we win.....unlike your team.... :13:


when was the last time your team won a test series or ODI series.......

last tour result 9-0 :))) :))) :)))
 
s2k said:
please go through pakistans test matches in last 3 years....you will find engough chokes.....to last a life time..... i will not go any further back in time to find many more......


:41:
lol keep searching
 
saffer said:
When did he ever even say anythinhg similiar to that ? You have a fertile imagination. You can't just make stuff up to make your life more interesting and it becomes true...you do know that right ?

And Steyn swung it a lot with the old ball and with the new ball yesterday and today. He went past the edge like 50 times. Swining it too much if anything.

And if you are referring to the Smith comment then there you go..

http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Gr...+Smith+++We+deserve+to+be&fp=47bb6faf392d0f81

Pick your choice please..
 
s2k said:
at least we win.....unlike your team.... :13:


when was the last time your team won a test series or ODI series.......

last tour result 9-0 :))) :))) :)))

lol, now go ahead and tell , India ALMOST :))) won a test series in Aus......

EOD indian also lost in Aus :))
 
abdul2009 said:
lol, now go ahead and tell , India ALMOST :))) won a test series in Aus......

EOD indian also lost in Aus :))
lost 2-1 won the ODI series beat them 2-0n in india

your score in AUS 9-0

last test won againist AUS was in 1995 i guess.....
 
i guess no is intrested in this game, just slanging matches!
 
Amjid Javed said:
i guess no is intrested in this game, just slanging matches!


bhai see who started it......some people have issues which logic cant solve
 
Indiafan said:
I would say the same about Indian batting and SA bowling in the first test then, Some pathethic shots lost us the match. No way Steyn should have got all those wickets

Almost all this wickets were bowled, caught behuind by the batsman being clueless to the massive swing. It was one of the most thoroughly deserved 10 wickets you will ever see. And yes , that track was flat too.
 
s2k said:
lost 2-1 won the ODI series beat them 2-0n in india

your score in AUS 9-0

last test won againist AUS was in 1995 i guess.....

Indian, it doesnt matter if you won one test by fluke in Aus... EOD u returned home without BG trophy.

Atleast Pak lost in ODI's to a full strength Aus team unlike India which got thrashed by Aus XI in India :))
 
abdul2009 said:
lol, this post sums it up...
dont argue to indian when indian is about to win.
they lose the sense of logic :))

Huh? I didnt create this logic, saffer did.
 
dani2k said:
And if you are referring to the Smith comment then there you go..

http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&q=Gr...+Smith+++We+deserve+to+be&fp=47bb6faf392d0f81

Pick your choice please..


Do I get to pick on not by a biast tabloid like sensationalist Indian newspaper ? No ?

Oh well...here's what he apparently said

"The reason we probably can say we deserve number one ranking more than any one else is we have traveled and won
around the world in a short period of time. We have not only played at home and won. We have won in England, in Australia, come here and won a Test in 2008 and now here. Number one team deserves to be number one. We want to earn that and be there for a long time,"

Anything less modest than that = NO, if we become number one then we don't deserve it. Wow...since when did not talking yourself down = being arrogant ? Why would you expect anyone in world cricket to talk themselves down ?

Anyway what smith says is 100% true. India are only number 1 because of all the home series lately. They'd lose in South Africa , England, Australia and many other countries which we haven't done. We're doing India a favour an accepting to play a test series against you twice in a row in your back yard and the best you can do is 1-1. Some needs to be more humble here about their achievement , but it's certainly not the South Africans.
 
saffer said:
Do I get to pick on not by a biast tabloid like sensationalist Indian newspaper ? No ?

Oh well...here's what he apparently said

"The reason we probably can say we deserve number one ranking more than any one else is we have traveled and won
around the world in a short period of time. We have not only played at home and won. We have won in England, in Australia, come here and won a Test in 2008 and now here. Number one team deserves to be number one. We want to earn that and be there for a long time,"

Anything less modest than that = NO, if we become number one then we don't deserve it. Wow...since when did not talking yourself down = being arrogant ? Why would you expect anyone in world cricket to talk themselves down ?

Anyway what smith says is 100% true. India are only number 1 because of all the home series lately. They'd lose in South Africa , England, Australia and many other countries which we haven't done. We're doing India a favour an accepting to play a test series against you twice in a row in your back yard and the best you can do is 1-1. Some needs to be more humble here about their achievement , but it's certainly not the South Africans.

But at least they won at home, South Africa lost to Australia at home....India thrashed Australia at theirs. Also, India beat England at their home. The only two they haven't beat is Australia and South Africa and they are getting close.

South Africa is yet to win Sri Lanka, I think it was the world record partnership last time they played there. Plus am not sure if SA played NZ recently or won a series in NZ? Its all really semantics saying who won here and who last here considering both teams have done it home and away over a lengthy period. Its not like India is on some good form in the past year....they have been on good form since the past 2-3 years.
 
Draw.

Flatter pitch than the previous Test, unbelievable curating in the subcontinent.
 
Muddaser said:
PakPassion.net

The mods just remove things without giving any reason and when you ask for reason, that post is removed as well. Maybe this will also despair. Don't criticize Pakistan or the Pakistan team - my advice.

Btw stupid disicion by dhoni to declare - he new very well that light would be offered to batsmen soon and SA will gladly take it.
 
Pathan1990 said:
The mods just remove things without giving any reason and when you ask for reason, that post is removed as well. Maybe this will also despair. Don't criticize Pakistan or the Pakistan team - my advice.

Btw stupid disicion by dhoni to declare - he new very well that light would be offered to batsmen soon and SA will gladly take it.

Honslaa rakho pathan bhai

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=91797
 
Asok Chaktra said:
The thread was removed by our pakistani friends because Indians were doing well. Their own team is not good enough so they suppory SA. Well played team India!


Hey IDIOT!!

The thread was NOT removed!!!

It was closed & posted in the Commentary Thread forum as the Day1+2 Thread....like EVERY OTHER match thread is!!!

Just needed a jerk like you to create a new one for todays play!

But thanks for showing your true colours so early!!!
 
Pathan1990 said:
The mods just remove things without giving any reason and when you ask for reason, that post is removed as well. Maybe this will also despair.


Dont worry - posts that confirm a users stupidity tend to stay for all to see.

I thought we discussed your stupidity levels yesterday in the MRR - under this new username & your previous username.
 
Oxy said:
Hey IDIOT!!

The thread was NOT removed!!!

It was closed & posted in the Commentary Thread forum as the Day1+2 Thread....like EVERY OTHER match thread is!!!

Just needed a jerk like you to create a new one for todays play!

But thanks for showing your true colours so early!!!


oxy bhai thand rakho na bhai......kitta gussa karte ho

Indians wont be here and posting actively if mods had shown blind bias.......

TBH i was also surprised that the thread had vanished.......
 
s2k said:
TBH i was also surprised that the thread had vanished.......

And I am surprised at how stupid you have been in this thread!! Even despite all the 'help' you have been given!!!
 
Oxy said:
And I am surprised at how stupid you have been in this thread!! Even despite all the 'help' you have been given!!!


why do u have to selectively quote me oxy?

I cudnt find the match thread and the OP also says why there is no match thread.It was a confusion.


How come no thread?

India lead by 90 with 4 wickets remaining. Dhoni and Laxman at the crease. South Africa will want to wrap this up quickly, ideally they'll want the lead to be under 150. Still a lot of time left though.

Regarding my stupidity on this thread.......I sometimes like to stoop to the level of some people to see how it feels to be like them.....on the brighter side....i know not to stoop to that level.....

i by no means tried to offend any mod or admin....my opinion about them is clear from one of my posts above.

PS:why are you so pissed? :(
 
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Note to all

Before slamming the Mods or PP for deleting threads because 'India are winning', kindly open your eyes, take off your hate tinted specs.....and then feel suitably shamed at how you posted what you did and that your idiocy is there for all to see.

And to Khabri420 - I dont know what else you could have done to explain things to these jokers!!!
 
s2k said:
why do u have to selectively quote me oxy?

I cudnt find the match thread and the OP also says why there is no match thread.It was a confusion.

So you based all this on your inability to find a thread & another posters inabilty to find the thread.

Bravo!
 
Oxy said:
So you based all this on your inability to find a thread & another posters inabilty to find the thread.

Bravo!

i didnt accuse anyone.

i asked a question which was answered by khabri i thanked him and that was it.

as i said it was a confusion many people didnt find the thread.

i can understand you being pissed at blind accusations.but why shoot all for the mistake of a few.
 
hey Oxy,please maintain a certain level of civility man....I know you often get too patriotic but that doesn't mean you should start using inappropriate language especially against indian members( I am also proud Indian FYI) just because your have anti-india feelings....you can certainly solve their queries in a better manner..so sit back and relax

by the way my answer to your signature is:

IPL is here to stay..Long Live IPL
 
S.A will have to bat probably 5 sessions to save this match!
 
Wajahat_Ali said:
hey Oxy,please maintain a certain level of civility man....I know you often get too patriotic but that doesn't mean you should start using inappropriate language especially against indian members( I am also proud Indian FYI) just because your have anti-india feelings....you can certainly solve their queries in a better manner..so sit back and relax

by the way my answer to your signature is:

IPL is here to stay..Long Live IPL

I still think they don't get it. :ibutt
 
Wajahat_Ali said:
hey Oxy,please maintain a certain level of civility man....I know you often get too patriotic but that doesn't mean you should start using inappropriate language especially against indian members( I am also proud Indian FYI) just because your have anti-india feelings....you can certainly solve their queries in a better manner..so sit back and relax

by the way my answer to your signature is:

IPL is here to stay..Long Live IPL

Some of the threads he deleted deserved to be deleted. The fact that people don't understand this (Indian or non-Indian) is what probably ticks Oxy off. The mods have to work extra hard on the days there are matches because dumbos start creating threads on every little thing when there is a specific match thread already made.
 
:))) IT really is International Stupid Day. Unbelievable how people are missing a point. He did posted in bold yet the next guy comes and posts the same thing.

Trust me, Oxy has no problem with anyones race. He has a problem with stupidity.
 
Some interesting shenanigans on this thread. :akhtar

Getting back on topic, I have an issue with saffer who calls this a Test a borefest.

SA were 201 odd for 2 in the first day before they collapsed in the third session, a stunning reversal.

India were some 60-70 odd in the second day for two down, and under the barrel, with Sehwag belting everything he could get his hands on.

Except for Sachin, and (did not watch it) perhaps the later part of Laxman's innings, every Indian bat was giving chances.

At the close of the second day India has subsided into 5 down with a 40 odd run lead, with Badri, Sehwag, Tendulkar out within a few balls of each other.

Thorugh the fourth day Laxman and Dhoni held on despite giving many chances.

All through Steyn & co were giving ti their all, and looking to make chances.

Application, grit, drama, luck and flashes of brilliance were there to see all through.

Given all of that I am surprised you call it a borefest.

These are Tests and Tests are for the long distance runner.

You can't have 20-20 like situations every 20 overs.

Your sense of impending loss is perhaps leading you to make near hysterical statements - "How about a result relying on the skills of the player and not the pitch turning in a crater on last days ?"

There are quite a few fallacies in that statement, BTW.
 
saffer is a very very very sore loser, how did you not know this previously COL? :inti
 
Good comeback by India. The Saffers will do well to salvage a draw out of this. 296 was way too short on a wicket where five or six tons were scored by both sides.
 
kingusama92 said:
Some of the threads he deleted deserved to be deleted. The fact that people don't understand this (Indian or non-Indian) is what probably ticks Oxy off. The mods have to work extra hard on the days there are matches because dumbos start creating threads on every little thing when there is a specific match thread already made.

Yes, I think PP is one of the best moderated sites I have ever seen, and I cannot accuse them of any biasness in the way its handled. In fact, soemtimes they are so fair-minded that even Pakistanis accuse them of being too lenient towards Indians
 
Indiafan said:
Yes, I think PP is one of the best moderated sites I have ever seen, and I cannot accuse them of any biasness in the way its handled. In fact, soemtimes they are so fair-minded that even Pakistanis accuse them of being too lenient towards Indians


I agree that with all the interviews and other efforts Saj & co make, it has claim to be the best cricket site by a country mile.

They've kept it fair and, having said that, it is a Pakistani cricket site.

Oxy's reaction, while OTT, is totally understandable.
To people who accuse the mods of anti- India bias, I can only say that I was banned from the Indian site (don't know whether it is appropriate to give the name but we all know which one) literally within 5 minutes of joining, all for disagreeing politely with people there.

I remember it was a particularly hectic time there - some close game - but 5 f****ing minutes!

@ poisonjet - I had no idea!
 
Oxy said:
Note to all

Before slamming the Mods or PP for deleting threads because 'India are winning', kindly open your eyes, take off your hate tinted specs.....and then feel suitably shamed at how you posted what you did and that your idiocy is there for all to see.

And to Khabri420 - I dont know what else you could have done to explain things to these jokers!!!

:14: :14: :inti
 
Indiafan said:
I would say the same about Indian batting and SA bowling in the first test then, Some pathethic shots lost us the match. No way Steyn should have got all those wickets

I saw the highlight of first Test. It may not have competitive cricket to watch. But Steyn bowling was really unplayable especially with his inswinging deliveries, reverse swinging, and some were unplayable yorkers. There is no way any batting line would have survived let alone Indian batting line. The problem is that bowler can not be consistent in dead track, and the best is to take the chance once they get fired up. I have never considered Steyn a genuine fast bowler in the past, but he is doing fine as we speak.
 
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Cricket is main sport in Aus, SL, Bng, Eng, Ind etc etc
Ever noticed that most of issues are caused by indian fans in cricket forums? and not by Aus , SL or any other fans?? :13:
 
Just came back from the score card, and looks like Laxman and Dhoni was the main turning points and remained unbeaten. Well Done!
 
abdul2009 said:
Cricket is main sport in Aus, SL, Bng, Eng, Ind etc etc
Ever noticed that most of issues are caused by indian fans in cricket forums? and not by Aus , SL or any other fans?? :13:

They have their forums and they are happy to discuss their issues in their own forums, and like we do in our forums, which is PakPassion.

There is no way several Indian cricket fans will able survive in their Indian forums due to Moderators lack of professionalism.

I am not surprised that several Indian fans will be at BBC and several others forums as well. We also welcome Indian friends here, and stay as long as you like. :)
 
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Wajahat_Ali said:
hey Oxy,please maintain a certain level of civility man....I know you often get too patriotic but that doesn't mean you should start using inappropriate language especially against indian members( I am also proud Indian FYI) just because you have anti-india feelings....you can certainly solve their queries in a better manner..so sit back and relax

by the way my answer to your signature is:

IPL is here to stay..Long Live IPL

A stupid poster is a stupid poster, irrespective of who they support...dont make out that I target Indian posters as that's factually incorrect
 
MalikMohsin said:
They have their forums and they are happy to discuss their issues in their own forums, and like we do in our forums, which is PakPassion.

There is no way several Indian cricket fans will able survive in their Indian forums due to Moderators lack of professionalism.

I am not surprised that several Indian fans will be BBC, here and several others forums as well. We also welcome Indian friends here, and stay as long as you like. :)

I have never been part of an Indian forum but have completely enjoyed my stay over here. This is one of the best cricketing forums around. I for one don't see any bias whatsoever from the Mods here. :14:
 
Oxy said:
A stupid poster is a stupid poster, irrespective of who they support...dont make out that I target Indian posters as that's factually incorrect


:14: :14: :14: u r gone case OXY ;-)
 
abdul2009 said:
lol pak team are not chokers, they may be losers but not chokers.

Remember indian in hyd ODI in 2009 vs aus?
And Against SL in kolkota in WC 96
well those where epic chokes were'nt they :)))


The recent test match in Sydney was probably the biggest choke i've ever witnessed.
 
Shayan said:
The recent test match in Sydney was probably the biggest choke i've ever witnessed.

you the test in which indian lost 3 wickets in final over to lose the test match?? oh thats a huge choke, yes :))
 
abdul2009 said:
you the test in which indian lost 3 wickets in final over to lose the test match?? oh thats a huge choke, yes :))

To be frank both Pakistan and India have had their fair share of choking in the last two years. I don't think the discussion of who is the bigger choker is anything to feel proud about for fans from both the countries. It will be better for us to stick to thread topic and discuss about the current test.

We might get ample opportunities from both the teams in the future to disscuss the same. Till then lets relax :)
 
MalikMohsin said:
I saw the highlight of first Test. It may not have competitive cricket to watch. But Steyn bowling was really unplayable especially with his inswinging deliveries, reverse swinging, and some were unplayable yorkers. There is no way any batting line would have survived let alone Indian batting line. The problem is that bowler can not be consistent in dead track, and the best is to take the chance they get fired up. I have never considered Steyn a genuine fast bowler in the past, but he is doing fine as we speak.

It(My post) was not a valid point. I was just replying to Saffer's post not giving credit to Indian bowlers
 
Indiafan said:
It(My post) was not a valid point. I was just replying to Saffer's post not giving credit to Indian bowlers

It doesn't change the fact some of Indian bowlers were lucky to get a few wickets.

Only Zaheer Khan and Harbajjan Singh are wicket takers, and the rest can be lucky with their performance. Didn't see any decent performance from Indian bowling attack and hopefully, we get to see in the last inning.
 
OHHHH yeah. Now gotta choke down SA to a loss, they will bring up the fight to draw this.
 
looks like innings or 8 wickets defeat coming unless SA can have two big centuries with couple of 40+ scores which should take there score to 475-500
 
Wajahat_Ali said:
hey Oxy,please maintain a certain level of civility man....I know you often get too patriotic but that doesn't mean you should start using inappropriate language especially against indian members( I am also proud Indian FYI) just because your have anti-india feelings....you can certainly solve their queries in a better manner..so sit back and relax

by the way my answer to your signature is:

IPL is here to stay..Long Live IPL


Man you got Oxy so wrong its not funny he is not anti-India or any anti-cricket team..
 
Yawn some Indian newbies having a sook in this thread.

Ignoring all that bakwaas, looks like India will level the series so we are none the wiser who is the real number 1 side. Pity it was not 3 Tests, guess we wait for the rematch in South Africa.

Credit also the curator in this game, would have been a lot of pressure to produce a rubbish pitch but seems to be a fair one, India are just playing better.
 
Wajahat_Ali said:
hey Oxy, ....by the way my answer to your signature is:
His last signature was something like Australia will whoop Pakistan. And he was checking "done" after every match.

As for missing thread or deleted thread - when a thread for commentary is popular and getting big like this match, it gets locked and moved to Commentary forum and new thread is created. I did ask in an active Sehwag thread yesterday at about 8 PM EST USA that someone create a thread. I would have created one if I was following it but it is not right. It should be people discussing and folowing the match. The post was removed an hour later as I was leaving.

Yesterday was not too much activity while match was on so another day was added to in title in yesterday's thread. You can always check
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/forumdisplay.php?f=59
 
Rain is not good. This is a big test for SA batting and Indian bowling. But there are still 2 days left so even if a session or two is lost then it is still okay
 
:127: No need for rain fellows, South Africa will overhaul this total within this day.
 
As posted by tdigi in another thread :D

...:moyo.. :inti
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