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India vs Australia | 1st Test | Chennai | 23/2/13 | Day 2

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Sandeep99 said:
Can't compare the class of Swann and Monty with Lyon and Doherty(?)
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Doherty isn't much better than Lyon. The aussies should really start teaching their bowlers the doorsa, regular offies don't tend to do well these days with Swann being the only exception.
 
The Lion needs to vary his pace a bit. Just tossing it up ball after ball is not going to do any good. Need to mix a few quick ones in there as well just to hurry the batsman up a bit.
 
Kiwi said:
Doherty isn't much better than Lyon. The aussies should really start teaching their bowlers the doorsa, regular offies don't tend to do well these days with Swann being the only exception.
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That is what I meant! Going with 3 seamers + 1 spinner is the only option for Australia unlike England!
 
Another brilliant shot by Kohli getting to the pitch of the ball. Just a couple away from his 50.
 
Australian spinners' careers have faded away after their India tours... Hauritz, Krejza, Lyon(?) Feel sorry...
 
Sandeep99 said:
Australian spinners' careers have faded away after their India tours... Hauritz, Krejza, Lyon(?) Feel sorry...
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Krejza did well in India didn't he? Then got hammered by SA and see ya later alligator!
 
In the air but safe.. ooohhh Kohli on 49^ now.


Tendu back on strike. :facepalm:
 
Pretty poor captaincy I must say. Where are the fielders around the batsman for Lyon? Where's Pattinson? Too easy for Kohli and Sachin.
 
I don't know but why was Pattinson not bowled? Why????? I can't really think of any logic behind this!!
 
SL_Fan said:
Pretty poor captaincy I must say. Where are the fielders around the batsman for Lyon? Where's Pattinson? Too easy for Kohli and Sachin.
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The only reasonable explanations for underbowling Pattinson is he's either injured or tired.
 
India's day I would say. Game evenly balanced.
 
A balanced day. Would have been in our favor had the tail not been allowed to drop anchor.
 
Selfish Kohli gets to his fifty just before the scheduled end of play:akhtar



Well played Virat:14:
 
Sandeep99 said:
I don't know but why was Pattinson not bowled? Why????? I can't really think of any logic behind this!!
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CA's management of the workload of pacers. Saving him from injuries or tiredness. I know it is a bit stupid but that is the reason.
 
Kiwi said:
The only reasonable explanations for underbowling Pattinson is he's either injured or tired.
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He has only bowled 6 overs so can't be tired. But yeah might be carrying a niggle or something. Otherwise a very poor call by Clarke.
 
Lolsss! Pattinson reckons 2 wickets and we're into tail... What about Sir RJ? :)))
 
A bit disappointed not to see more of Pattinson he was outstanding with the ball today.
Hopefully we will see more of him tomorrow.
 
ahmed778 said:
A bit disappointed not to see more of Pattinson he was outstanding with the ball today.
Hopefully we will see more of him tomorrow.
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It's very confusing.

If it were the plan to bowl him in short spurts one would imagine that he would have bowled a few overs at the end of the day.
 
Met Wasim Bhai and said convey Salaam. Also Met Arun Lal, Dev, Bhogle, Border, Warne, Hurley, Sidhu...

Clarke, Siddle and Warner did Gangnam Style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Convict said:
It's very confusing.

If it were the plan to bowl him in short spurts one would imagine that he would have bowled a few overs at the end of the day.
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Pattinson in PC: Planned to bowl in short spells frm start. Was supposed to bowl again towards end bt Mitchell was bowling well.
 
style_guru said:
Pujara is already rated too highly for my liking, along with Kohli. Captaincy will be like taking it too far.

Nepotism is so rife at the moment that I am afraid this team will sink to new lows. Lows that can only be matched with the Indian team of the 90's.
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90s team was very solid at home. This team has the potential to create all time lows. If Pujara is the best of the lot, it does not augur well for the future.
 
Obviously, Clarke didn't want Pattinson to break down before the Ashes so he's being given a limited run on this tour. Expect him to sit out of the last couple of tests altogether or something to that effect.
 
So if India see through Pattinson, they can build a powerful position in this test. If Patto deals two blows in the morning, match would swing Aussie way.
 
Posted a couple on page 1, give me until tonight and I'll sort out some good shots of Siddle bowling, Sachin, etc.
 
Kiwi said:
Doherty isn't much better than Lyon. The aussies should really start teaching their bowlers the doorsa, regular offies don't tend to do well these days with Swann being the only exception.
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No.
Doosra is mostly chucking.

Offies have always being useless in Australia anyway.
 
Convict said:
No.
Doosra is mostly chucking.

Offies have always being useless in Australia anyway.
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Pretty much all bowlers chuck whether you like to believe it or not. All the biomechanics studies done in this area have proved that.
 
SL_Fan said:
Pretty much all bowlers chuck whether you like to believe it or not. All the biomechanics studies done in this area have proved that.
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To a certain extent, there is a truth in the above statement. I read it somewhere that a research conducted during one of the Champions trophy (england) found out that only leg spinners are said to be possessing near flawless bowling action with minimal or no kink in their arm/elbow while delivering the ball (near perfect bowling actions were from Kumble and Ramnaresh sarwan)
 
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Good knock from the person in my avatar :)

Carried from where he left it, scored a 100 in his last TEST innings against ENG...
 
avidlearner said:
To a certain extent, there is a truth in the above statement. I read it somewhere that a research found out that only leg spinners are said to be possessing near flawless bowling action with minimal or no kink in their bowling action while delivering the ball (research was conducted during champions trophy in england and the near perfect bowling actions were from Kumble and Ramnaresh sarwan)
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Not just that, numerous other studies conducted in this area have also shown that the original rule of cricket which allowed absolutely no flexion is impossible to adhere to.

Funny thing is that a lot of these studies were actually done in Aus by Aus biomechanics experts. Yet it's mostly Aussies in my experience who tend to ignore and unjustly discredit these findings.

A study from 2000-2003 showed that bowling actions that looked normal to the naked eye in many of the worlds elite fast bowlers, had, on average 9 degrees of elbow extension during the bowling action. Some recorded elbow extension measuring between 10-15 degrees, yet none of these bowlers had ever had a problem regarding the legality of their bowling action. This testing showed that a zero tolerance threshold, and the tiered thresholds implemented in the late 90's, had no or little scientific merit. The study, conducted by the Australian Institute of Sport Biomechanics department, lead by cricket biomechanist Dr. Marc Portus, involved taking three-dimensional video based biomechanical analyses during tour, test and one-day international matches in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane. This report was submitted to the ICC in 2003, which instigated the review of the illegal action definition and processes.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/141558.html

Extensive research conducted by the International Cricket Council is set to reveal that 99% of bowlers in the history of cricket have been throwers. The study was undertaken in the wake of the furore surrounding Muttiah Muralitharan, whose doosra was banned earlier this year after Chris Broad, the match referee for the Tests against Australia, reported it to the ICC.

According to Derek Pringle in the Daily Telegraph, Murali is no different from the vast majority of his fellow players. The current law states that there should be no straightening or partial straightening of the bowling arm during delivery, and in-depth research has revealed that even bowlers like Glenn McGrath and Shaun Pollock, usually considered examplars of the classical action, occasionally go over the prescribed tolerance limit, bending their arms by as much as 12 degrees.

The biomechanics men - Dr Marc Portus, Professor Bruce Elliott and Dr Paul Hurrion - used cameras shooting at 250 frames per second (ten times the speed of a TV camera) to illustrate phenomena such as adduction and hyper-extension, which can convince an observer watching with the naked eye that the bowler is chucking.

Research was also undertaken during the ICC Champions Trophy in England, where it was found that 13 of the 23 bowlers filmed straightened their arms more than the current permissible levels. Ramnaresh Sarwan, he of the fairly innocuous legspin, was the only man observed who didn't straighten his arm at all.
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http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/136043.html

A survey of the bowlers in the ICC Champions Trophy revealed that 99 per cent of all bowlers chucked. This isn't so different from earlier declarations that 90 per cent of all bowlers chuck, so the turnabout must have to do with the names named rather than the general conclusion. It turns out that under the current definition of a legitimate delivery, such pillars of the bowling establishment as Glenn McGrath, Shaun Pollock, and Jason Gillespie chuck. They straighten their arms in excess of the current 10-degree allowance for fast bowlers.
Abruptly the world's cricketing establishments (and sanctimonious ex-cricketers and pundits) were brought face to face with the alarming reality that the records of their heroes were as thoroughly derived from their dartboard skills as Muralitharan's. More so, if anything, because it was only Murali's doosra that was outlawed: his customary deliveries were deemed to come in under the five-degree limit for spinners. In contrast, Australia's fast bowling firm, Messrs McGrath, Gillespie & Lee soared above the 10-degree limit with routine deliveries.
When Murali pointed this out later, the spokesperson for Cricket Australia, deaf to irony, huffed on about the complex science behind the findings and the unfairness of accusing great bowlers of chucking! There's never been a more emphatic vindication of a player in the history of cricket and after years of being singled out and persecuted, Murali is entitled to say so.
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I maintain again that Pujara is the next Dravid and Kohli the next SRT.

But there's this interesting nugget from Cricinfo:

Since the start of the England series in 2011, India's opening partnership has averaged just 33.56 in 32 innings. Among top Test teams (excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe), only New Zealand and Sri Lanka have a lower average for the opening wicket.
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This, when poor Wasim Jaffer is continuously overlooked despite murderous form for a cartoon like Murali Vijay.
 
These 3 shots have come out the best:

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Pity I can't head up to the game tomorrow, when Sach will score his ton.
 
Varun said:
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Wow!!

I was in D.. You guys had a lot of fun.. (But I shoke hand with Bhogle, Wasim Bhai, Dev, Sunny, Warne and Hurley :heart: , Memon, Arun Lal)

I had a Shashi moment (English Vinglish) with Dermont Reeve.. He asked me for a lighter. but I couldn't understand.

Why are u going to miss 3rd day?
 
Good to see the fightback by Team India, at 12/2 I thought it's the same old story again, but surprised to see Sachin back in form ( I mean I though Sach would struggle against pace at this age as he has been struggling).

Important that India continue the good work tomorrow, I think Australians have posted a very good score, so any slip up could be very costly, need Kohli, Sachin and MS to play big.
 
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