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this is going to be an absolute cracker of a match! i hope india wins the toss and elects to bat first, we are quite incapable of chasing targets set for us by the Australians (inspite of having a brilliant record chasing, the Aussies have time and again obliterated our attacks and out batted us from the match).

i wont be too surprised that if india do win, it would be courtsey a Tendulkar special.
 
India have a chance of winning since aussies have gone down a little since world cup final although india have gone up a bit they have to score 300+ definitely to stand a chance!!!! cuase aussies batting is tremendous and well you know indias bowling pathan is the only 1 who can do damage :))) :)))
 
I'm going to go watch it Inshallah! Should be a cracker, do or die match for both teams..lets hope the rain stays away!
 
At this point, I don't know which team I hate the most. India, England, Australia or the St Louis Cardinals. I am just hoping for a WI win in the finals.
 
mooz said:
At this point, I don't know which team I hate the most. India, England, Australia or the St Louis Cardinals. I am just hoping for a WI win in the finals.
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why you hate the cardinals?
 
I hope Australia batter India and West Indies destroy the Indians.
 
mooz said:
At this point, I don't know which team I hate the most. India, England, Australia or the St Louis Cardinals. I am just hoping for a WI win in the finals.
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Who plays for St Louis cardinals? TO?
 
Rotation continues with the Baggy Greens. This time Pup and Watson have been rotated out, while PistonWristedGibbon Katich and Symmo have been rotated in, along with Ponting, Marto and McGrath.

Ricky Ponting (captain), Matthew Hayden, Simon Katich, Damien Martyn, Andrew Symonds, Michael Hussey, Brad Haddin, Brad Hogg, Brett Lee, Stuart Clark, Glenn McGrath (12th man TBA).
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Any need to have Katich in the squad over Clarke who just produced a knock vs India in the last game? I would keep Clarke and open with him rather thna Katich seeing as Clarke is in better form and has opened before.
 
Amir said:
Any need to have Katich in the squad over Clarke who just produced a knock vs India in the last game? I would keep Clarke and open with him rather thna Katich seeing as Clarke is in better form and has opened before.
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rotation policy amir, the decided this before they came to Malaysia and they are going to stick with it DOESN'T matter how important the game is
 
abdul9383 said:
why you hate the cardinals?
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Yaar they are going to keep the Houston Astros out of the play-off this year. I was really looking forward to this baseball season. Plus they totally ruined my fantasy league standing by taking the astros pitchers to the cleaners.

oh and TO plays football, this year with the Dallas Cowboys.
 
Easa said:
I hope Australia batter India and West Indies destroy the Indians.
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How will WI batter India in the final, if Australia batter India tommorow? :13:
 
Easa said:
I hope Australia batter India and West Indies destroy the Indians.
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What would u get then?

I suppose u should be supporting ur neighbours rather than strangers.Hate will only return hate. :26:
 
i just hope lees cranking up to 95 mph and sachins on a rampage too. fit ho ga, dont care who wins, just as long as its aggressive crick.
 
cornelius said:
i just hope lees cranking up to 95 mph and sachins on a rampage too. fit ho ga, dont care who wins, just as long as its aggressive crick.
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True cricket fan. :19:
 
I can see Australia batting 1st and wracking up 300+ with pointing spanking indians all around the park tomorrow and this leading to a crushing aussie win!
 
Amjid Javed said:
I can see Australia batting 1st and wracking up 300+ with pointing spanking indians all around the park tomorrow and this leading to a crushing aussie win!
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i fear the same, but hopefully we get to bat first and post somewhere between 300 and 325. the aussies could not chase that without the firepower of clarke and hayden.
 
pakistani pride said:
the only way india can win is by scoring big 300 plus cause there bowling is club level ! :)))
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oh you mean the bowling that defended 162 against a team of 10 specialist batsmen/allrounder? or the bowling that dismissed pakistan for less than 150 in their own backyard? i think you had it confused with the bowling that could not defend 270 plus scores on helpful pitches, twice in one week, again in its own backyard...
 
Ricky Ponting (captain), Matthew Hayden, Simon Katich, Damien Martyn, Andrew Symonds, Michael Hussey, Brad Haddin, Brad Hogg, Brett Lee, Stuart Clark, Glenn McGrath (12th man TBA).
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With the likes of Ponting, Hayden, Joker Symo and Hussey, it's a more than formidable batting line-up. Indians should look to score off of Stuart Clark and ride out the early thunderstorm from Lee and let McGrath mechanically tinker away from the other end. Besides these two, Aussies look vulnerable when bowling. Indian batsmen will have to fire on all cylinders. Of course, even that might not be able to stop the Aussies from chasing anything that Indians sset.... with Hussey in their line-up anything can happen!
 
cornelius said:
i just hope lees cranking up to 95 mph and sachins on a rampage too. fit ho ga, dont care who wins, just as long as its aggressive crick.
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man i really want to see mcgrath versus tendulkar.
 
I'd quite like to see a repeat of world cup03 final...
 
abdul9383 said:
no sreenath this time around
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No zaheer and Nehra also!! Australians are known for their toughness. No matter how tough the situation is they have the confidence to come back. That's why they have been the greatest for the last 10 years. India is seriously an underdog against Ozzies any time. This time is no exception. So it takes great resolve from India to snatch a win from Ozzies especially when Australia's pride is under stake. Australia is a strong favorite against any team in the world in this situation let alone India. Brett Lee will be pumped up to bowl to Sachin. So is Mcgrath. Arguably Ozzies have the best fielding unit. So Only a combination of extra-ordinary effort from India and an average effort from Ozzies can produce a different result than expected.
 
I want India to win VS Australia so that WI can DEFEAT India in final match.
 
hasan316 said:
I want India to win VS Australia so that WI can DEFEAT India in final match.
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Never bet on that! There is a reason why Windies is at the bottom of one day table! They have masters degree in the Arts of Self-Destruction.
 
jackal786 said:
Never bet on that! There is a reason why Windies is at the bottom of one day table! They have masters degree in the Arts of Self-Destruction.
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they lost to India cause they want india to be in final. Otherwise LARA would never come 8th down.
 
hasan316 said:
they lost to India cause they want india to be in final. Otherwise LARA would never come 8th down.
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Lara had lot of lives man in his short stay. Too many edges. India was ultra aggressive windies indeed struggled to put bat to ball after the opening partnership ended. In my opinion it wouldnt matter. Had India taken their chances Windies would not have even crossed 100!!
 
Anyone know what time the match is starting GMT?
 
Pathan007 said:
5:30GMT. and it's gonna start 1:30am Eastern Time for North Americans.
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Bugger, I hate these midnight starts.
 
AUS for some reason have dropped M Clarke, Bracken and Watson! IMO they dropped the wrong Clarke
 
PlanetPakistan said:
AUS for some reason have dropped M Clarke, Bracken and Watson! IMO they dropped the wrong Clarke
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None of them are dropped, just rotated
 
Sreesanth and Yuvraj not playing.

Mongia and Kaif come in.

A step backward, i would say. Unless there is a genuine reason like illness etc.
 
Greg does it again :91: :91:

2 failure for Yuvi and he has been dropped
Sreesanth who bowled well in last match, dropped . Should have dropped RP Singh.
And where Kaif gonna bat? at NO.7 ? :91: should have brought Pawar instead of Kaif.
And I hope Dravid open again today ;-)
 
Asim2Good said:
Greg does it again :91: :91:

2 failure for Yuvi and he has been dropped
Sreesanth who bowled well in last match, dropped . Should have dropped RP Singh.
And where Kaif gonna bat? at NO.7 ? :91: should have brought Pawar instead of Kaif.
And I hope Dravid open again today ;-)
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Yuvraj was running fever even in the last 2 matches. I wonder why was he even there with the squad!
 
PlanetPakistan said:
same difference! Dropped for this game!
The AUS bowling lineup doesn't look too flashy!
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There is a difference. These plans had been made before the series and its a warmup to let everyone have decent game time. Ponting wasnt dropped against the Windies was he?
 
i think greg chappel is working for the ICC..i mean literally nothing has gone india's way since he has taken over... wonder wat pakistani reaction would hav been if he was the coach of the national team...

in th mean time Aus 27/0 in 6.4 overs
 
Daoud said:
There is a difference. These plans had been made before the series and its a warmup to let everyone have decent game time. Ponting wasnt dropped against the Windies was he?
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point taken!
but why can't they play their best possible 11! Everyone has already been given a chance so why not play your best 11? because if this "experiment" goes wrong then they will knocked out of the competition!
 
36/1 off 8.1 Katich Caught at pt by Raina off Agarkar. Brilliant catch. Right up there with the best.
 
PlanetPakistan said:
point taken!
but why can't they play their best possible 11! Everyone has already been given a chance so why not play your best 11? because if this "experiment" goes wrong then they will knocked out of the competition!
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Any XI is best XI for them! Infact there is no such thing as best XI for them. You cannot say Lee would have done the same damage Johnson did against India.
 
that was simply amazing catch. wish we had fielders like raina,yuvraj or kaif.
 
this is hilarious... on ricbuzz there was a heated debate going on until this thing pops out

GeneralParvezMusharaff: Kiya Yahan pay Atal Bihari Vajpaiyee hein
 
PlanetPakistan said:
crabtich is gone
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YES!!! Don't let the door hit you in the **** on your way out. Muppet.
 
jackal786 said:
Any XI is best XI for them! Infact there is no such thing as best XI for them. You cannot say Lee would have done the same damage Johnson did against India.
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Because this tournament is really a warm up of sorts for the Champions Trophy. I'd say the OZ brain trust would rather lose this tournament and learn something useful about who might get a guernsey for the CT than win this with the same old blokes.

Besides, the criticism we've always had as a team is that we never let other players have a go. It took the Ashes loss to force the Test team to change. We were exposed in that when McGrath got injured and Dizzy and Kasper fell out of form after getting bludgeoned by the Poms. It was embarrassing having to send for Shaun Tait, a bloke who'd never played Test cricket before.

Lessons have been learned from that campaign. We've generally rotated our ODI bowlers due to workload anyway, but I hope they do it for Tests as well. We want to have a squad of 22 players who are all capable of being slotted into the team if needed.
 
jackal786 said:
Any XI is best XI for them! Infact there is no such thing as best XI for them. You cannot say Lee would have done the same damage Johnson did against India.
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Best 11= Proven players who are more "likely" to do well than these rookies like Clark, Johnson or lewis!
 
OZGOD said:
Because this tournament is really a warm up of sorts for the Champions Trophy. I'd say the OZ brain trust would rather lose this tournament and learn something useful about who might get a guernsey for the CT than win this with the same old blokes.

Besides, the criticism we've always had as a team is that we never let other players have a go. It took the Ashes loss to force the Test team to change. We were exposed in that when McGrath got injured and Dizzy and Kasper fell out of form after getting bludgeoned by the Poms. It was embarrassing having to send for Shaun Tait, a bloke who'd never played Test cricket before.

Lessons have been learned from that campaign. We've generally rotated our ODI bowlers due to workload anyway, but I hope they do it for Tests as well. We want to have a squad of 22 players who are all capable of being slotted into the team if needed.
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Yes i agree that you should give your youngsters a chance but there should be a limit! You can't just throw in everybody....oh Ponting is gone!......So if AUS fail to make the finals of this tournament and also considering the fact that they leaked 438 runs vs SA i feel that the Aussies will then lose the psychological edge that they have had over teams in the past, so winning is very important!
and BTW AUS have always adopted this rotation policy in the ODIs even during S Waugh's days they used to rotate players all the time.
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Best 11= Proven players who are more "likely" to do well than these rookies like Clark, Johnson or lewis!
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They got Katich, Hayden. They open anyway. Ponting, martyn, symonds, hussey(world no.2 odi batsman). Who else they need? Clarke? How can you say Martyn and Symonds cannot perform as well as clarke?
 
Why would you drop Sreesanth and Yuvraj and bring in Kaif and Mongia? :|
 
PlanetPakistan said:
Yes i agree that you should give your youngsters a chance but there should be a limit! You can't just throw in everybody....oh Ponting is gone!......So if AUS fail to make the finals of this tournament and also considering the fact that they leaked 438 runs vs SA i feel that the Aussies will then lose the psychological edge that they have had over teams in the past, so winning is very important!
and BTW AUS have always adopted this rotation policy in the ODIs even during S Waugh's days they used to rotate players all the time.
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They're not throwing just anybody, it's blokes who they reckon will have an international future. This is actually a good tournament to ease them in, it's not too high-profile, the stakes are not quite as high, but it's a chance to see if the contenders will seize the moment.

Also, they started off by putting the most long-shot guys (Jaques, Johnson, Cosgrove) in the early matches, then Watson, Cullen, Bracken in the middle matches, and the top side in the last two. This sequence demonstrates that they do care about winning. In a tri series getting to the final usually relies on winning one or two games - the rest are all about getting into rhythm, etc.

Remember what happened in the last WC when Gillespie got injured and Warney got banned? We managed to get through those issues with minimal effect on the team but it could easily have been different.

Winning is important, but succession planning is also important. Remember the West Indies? That's what happens when you have no succession planning.
 
Easa said:
Why would you drop Sreesanth and Yuvraj and bring in Kaif and Mongia? :|
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yuvraj should have never gone there. He is still very sick. It is ridiculous to play him with illness in the first place. Mongia is a good choice but not at the cost of Sreesanth. RP singh should have left.
 
In any case, doesn't Pakistan rotate its lineup too? It seems like the lineup is different every match.
 
OZGOD said:
They're not throwing just anybody, it's blokes who they reckon will have an international future. This is actually a good tournament to ease them in, it's not too high-profile, the stakes are not quite as high, but it's a chance to see if the contenders will seize the moment.

Also, they started off by putting the most long-shot guys (Jaques, Johnson, Cosgrove) in the early matches, then Watson, Cullen, Bracken in the middle matches, and the top side in the last two. This sequence demonstrates that they do care about winning. In a tri series getting to the final usually relies on winning one or two games - the rest are all about getting into rhythm, etc.

Remember what happened in the last WC when Gillespie got injured and Warney got banned? We managed to get through those issues with minimal effect on the team but it could easily have been different.

Winning is important, but succession planning is also important. Remember the West Indies? That's what happens wh

en you have no succession planning.
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I agree with you there. That's why i support chappell's experiments and rotation policy. Even if it brings in odd failure in the long run will fetch fruits. If i remember correct even Dravid sat out few matches on purpose. It serves two purposes. First others learn to take the heat without a premiere player. Second it gives an assessment of how future would look like. Very thoughtful process it is.
 
OZGOD said:
In any case, doesn't Pakistan rotate its lineup too? It seems like the lineup is different every match.
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Pakistan's rotation is not really experiment. It is more of desperate search for a successful opening combination. Do you ever see Inzi, moyo and younis sitting out on purpose? No. When that happens it can be called proper rotation.
 
this defensive mindset might cost India 2day's match. i mean what was the reason for dropping santh and going wid 4bowlers? they should've gone with the same team, they had against windies.
 
b0wld said:
i think greg chappel is working for the ICC..i mean literally nothing has gone india's way since he has taken over... wonder wat pakistani reaction would hav been if he was the coach of the national team...
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There have been posters who have said Chappell would have been a better choice, his awful record for South Australia not withstanding
 
20.1 Singh to Hayden, no run, India miss two run out chances! Full outside off stump, Hayden drove it on the up to mid-off, Martyn sets off from the non-strikers end but Hayden sends him back, the throw from mid-off misses the stumps or Marty would have been out, the fielder at midwicket fieldeded the ball and shied at the stumps but missed again or Martyn would still have been out
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Sounds absolutely comical

87-3 with Hayden runout and Martyn batting in a manner than made Katich look like he was on speed
 
Haydunce showing he's a dunce with that runout. If you're slow and fat, don't try and beat a throw.
 
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