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India vs South Africa | 1st Test | Mohali | 5th-9th November | Match Thread | India won by 108 runs

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Abhilash93 said:
Average fallen from 40 to 32. Probably tennis elbow to blame.
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Not really.

Bad batting.

In SL, all his dismisssals barring 1 were bad shots.

Here it was a good pitch and a great ball but as a good player of spin he should have either come more forward or he should have stayed on back.
 
Bilal7 said:
Lol.

Game nicely poised here. South Africa can chase 220 here if they bat better than they did in the first innings.
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SA are right back in the game.

Its hard but not impossible to chase this down.

Indian bowlers must be sweating with so much pressure.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
If we lose, we deserve to lose.

You don't win with garbage batting.

How long can tail and lower order keep saving you.

Screw these buggers. If we win, we escaped.

If we lose, we deserved it.
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Bro what did I say of playing the extra batsmen yesterday ;-)
If say we had Rohit maybe he could have slogged a 20-30 and look how crucial that would be in current circumstances. What are the value additions bought by Yadav and Aaron?
 
Have to say, poor pitch or not, this has been a very interesting game. If the next pitch can just be a little more moderate on the turn, it'll almost be perfect.
 
battler said:
You never know man, he'll start using his crazy reverse-sweep and 360 degree shots and we will be done :(
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ABD is like Tendulkar when it comes to pressure at times.

Doing that to Jaddu will be hard.

Plus Kohli will NOT EVEN use pacers now. No way in hell.

Which is good for us.

What you need to fear is a well grafted partnership by someone. 70-80 run partnership and game will be tight.
 
battler said:
Bro what did I say of playing the extra batsmen yesterday ;-)
If say we had Rohit maybe he could have slogged a 20-30 and look how crucial that would be in current circumstances. What are the value additions bought by Yadav and Aaron?
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I agree. I never felt the need for 5 bowlers on bowling tracks (As long as its confirmed that its a bowling track).

Now we are defending this target with 3 bowlers. :)))

:facepalm:
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
SA are right back in the game.

Its hard but not impossible to chase this down.

Indian bowlers must be sweating with so much pressure.
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How good is Saha? 50 runs and India will be ahead.

The South African openers have to put up a fifty runs partnership atleast. Kohli will probably open with one pacer and the ball won't turn immediately.

As usual, everything hinges on Amla and de Villiers for the Saffers and Ashwin and Jadeja for India.
 
We should try to play it like ODI here. Not really the same but always look for runs. There is no point in playing 60 overs with 120 runs. You are going to to get some unplayable balls but make other ball count for runs.

One person can deadblock but 2 person doing it will be meaningless.
 
It is a good spinning track, but not as good as these two teams have made it look like.
 
Bilal7 said:
How good is Saha? 50 runs and India will be ahead.

The South African openers have to put up a fifty runs partnership atleast. Kohli will probably open with one pacer and the ball won't turn immediately.

As usual, everything hinges on Amla and de Villiers for the Saffers and Ashwin and Jadeja for India.
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Kohli won't open with pacers. He is dumn but not THAT dumb.

Ashwin and Jaddu will open.

Saha is a gritty player with limited ability but can survive things like these and post some scores.

With Ashwin gone, India is done bro. Yadav and Aaron won't last 2 balls here.
 
avidlearner said:
Yep. Read it somewhere about the same (tennis elbow issue & change of his stance at the crease). Though, I am happy that he is doing fantastically as a bowler, his batting contributions in the past were immense for our team. Miss that now.
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Is that why he is batting down the order ?
 
India should certainly drop one of the pacers and bring Rohit or Raina in.

South Africa are in a bit of a selection problem though, both their spinners have bowled well so do they bring JP in for a spinner or drop a pacer?
 
I prefer this kind of turning track. On slow turners , Indians would have racked up big scores and our spinners wouldn't have been that effective. Green pitch narrows the gap and turners does the same if you have some spinners on both sides.
 
Bilal7 said:
India should certainly drop one of the pacers and bring Rohit or Raina in.
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Nah, first time India has two genuine fast bowlers. Both should play in all tests.
 
What did India just do here?

Anything under 230 SA should chase it down.
 
Buffet said:
I prefer this kind of turning track. On slow turners , Indians would have racked up big scores and our spinners wouldn't have been that effective. Green pitch narrows the gap and turners does the same if you have some spinners on both sides.
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There is a another side to it.

On slow tracks, our batsmen would be racking up the runs and BAM...soft dismissal and everyone getting out fast.

Then SA can score on those pitches too cos its slow and not raging turner.

The deeper issue is simple:

Indian batting sucks. Has been this way in Asia for a while now.

Even Aus home tour, it was Pujara and Vijay who did ALL the heavy lifting.
 
Lets not be mistaken. 200 will still be a 50/50 score and if India get a couple of early wickets, it is curtains for South Africa.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
There is a another side to it.

On slow tracks, our batsmen would be racking up the runs and BAM...soft dismissal and everyone getting out fast.

Then SA can score on those pitches too cos its slow and not raging turner.

The deeper issue is simple:

Indian batting sucks. Has been this way in Asia for a while now.

Even Aus home tour, it was Pujara and Vijay who did ALL the heavy lifting.
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Indians batting is vastly inferior to what I saw in 90s when it came to playing spin. Caught in middle is so weird to see from Indian batsmen. You had a guy named Siddhu. Current players should work with that fellow.
 
Horrible if India lose from the position they were in.

Shocking batting.
 
Buffet said:
Indians batting is vastly inferior to what I saw in 90s when it came to playing spin. Caught in middle is so weird to see from Indian batsmen. You had a guy named Siddhu. Current players should work with that fellow.
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These guys are not fit enough to lick Sidhu's boots when it comes to playing spin.

Only Pujara (old version) and Vijay are exceptions.
 
Bilal7 said:
Lets not be mistaken. 200 will still be a 50/50 score and if India get a couple of early wickets, it is curtains for South Africa.
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Amla and AB batted very well in the first innings.

They'll be even more comfortable on the pitch now, having read it for 3 days.

Both wickets are key. If India takes them, they're winning it.
 
All in all this has been an exciting Test match.

First the Indian top order collapsed, but the tail wagged to get a decent total. Then SA lost 2 wickets cheaply but fought back with a 70-80 run partnership. Then ABD got lucky & took full advantage of it.

And besides the customary Dhawan wicket, India looked comfortable in the 2nd innings but then collapsed losing 6 wkts for 24 runs. I have a feeling there will be a few more twists & turns. Hoping it is not a repeat of the first Test in SL. On the positive side, SA will have to play about 80 overs to get 200-220 & I don't see them doing that.
 
Yes 200 is still a very good target but we could have closed the game out.

But instead we allowed SA right back in.
 
Bilal7 said:
Lets not be mistaken. 200 will still be a 50/50 score and if India get a couple of early wickets, it is curtains for South Africa.
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50/50 looks so much better when compared to day started.

I think it's 60-40 to SA. I think we can chase 220 runs here. It's not a minefield. Few new guys making 25 runs will come very handy here.
 
Hawkeye said:
Amla and AB batted very well in the first innings.

They'll be even more comfortable on the pitch now, having read it for 3 days.

Both wickets are key. If India takes them, they're winning it.
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ABD was a tailender for the first part of his innings. Survived on pure dumb luck and kept missing the line and length of Ashwin and Jaddu.

Amla was a beast.

But still those 2 are the most important wickets but ABD is very very vulnerable at the start. When he gets in, bye bye cos he can smash fast.
 
Hawkeye said:
Amla and AB batted very well in the first innings.

They'll be even more comfortable on the pitch now, having read it for 3 days.

Both wickets are key. If India takes them, they're winning it.
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ABD did not bat well in the first half of his innings. He looked like getting out every ball & survived twice solely due to luck. Amla was comfortable since the start.
 
Buffet said:
50/50 looks so much better when compared to day started.

I think it's 60-40 to SA. I think we can chase 220 runs here. It's not a minefield. Few new guys making 25 runs will come very handy here.
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Batsmen would be under pressure , will not play natural game , will block even balls that can be scored off.
 
Abhilash93 said:
All in all this has been an exciting Test match.

First the Indian top order collapsed, but the tail wagged to get a decent total. Then SA lost 2 wickets cheaply but fought back with a 70-80 run partnership. Then ABD got lucky & took full advantage of it.

And besides the customary Dhawan wicket, India looked comfortable in the 2nd innings but then collapsed losing 6 wkts for 24 runs. I have a feeling there will be a few more twists & turns. Hoping it is not a repeat of the first Test in SL. On the positive side, SA will have to play about 80 overs to get 200-220 & I don't see them doing that.
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Goal should be to not play more than 70 overs. Not exactly but surviving 80-90 overs looks tough here so it's better to look for runs. Most stupid strategy will be to block from the both ends to survive. Some one should take the attack early on. Not much to lose because by blocking they will get out anyway. Only 2-3 players have game to block and survive for any period.

I will play more like ODI from start.
 
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Justcrazy said:
Batsmen would be under pressure , will not play natural game , will block even balls that can be scored off.
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Hopefully, they don't block too much. If too much blocking happens then I think India will win.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
ABD was a tailender for the first part of his innings. Survived on pure dumb luck and kept missing the line and length of Ashwin and Jaddu.

Amla was a beast.

But still those 2 are the most important wickets but ABD is very very vulnerable at the start. When he gets in, bye bye cos he can smash fast.
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Abhilash93 said:
ABD did not bat well in the first half of his innings. He looked like getting out every ball & survived twice solely due to luck. Amla was comfortable since the start.
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Hmm didn't watch the match, just guessed from the stats. :moyo

Maybe he'll be better in the second innings. Can't expect him to not improve.
 
Buffet said:
Hopefully, they don't block too much. If too much blocking happens then I think India will win.
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If I was the coach , I would change the batting order , send up couple of pinch hitters up front , try and get some quick runs. Keep main batsmen down the order.
 
Abhilash93 said:
ABD did not bat well in the first half of his innings. He looked like getting out every ball & survived twice solely due to luck. Amla was comfortable since the start.
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Amla can keep on batting but the other guys might lose their wickets and South Africa will fail. He certainly has the ability to score quickly in tests but his form and the added pressure of captaincy means that he won't be playing an ODI knock here.

ABD can score all the runs himself if he has someone prepared to dead-bat at the other end.
 
Justcrazy said:
If I was the coach , I would change the batting order , send up couple of pinch hitters up front , try and get some quick runs. Keep main batsmen down the order.
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That sounds both exciting and scary to hear as an Indian.

Man.....that's not a bad plan at all.
 
Abhilash93 said:
Recovered from injury. Currently undergoing rehabilitation.
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When is he coming back? Although I doubt we'll se him in this series with India likely to only play Ishant from the pace-bowling pool, in the remaining matches.
 
From the looks of this pitch india might have already had enough of a lead at the first drinks break.

200+ on this deck will need an amla or ab masterclass and probably a few slices of luck to go with it.
 
Justcrazy said:
If I was the coach , I would change the batting order , send up couple of pinch hitters up front , try and get some quick runs. Keep main batsmen down the order.
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Order change or not, batting unit needs to look for runs because collectively they don't have good defense against spin in these kind of tracks. Fortunately , score won't be out of reach. After poor batting effort in first go, couldn't have asked for anything better here. 220 to win is not bad. It's tough but a best possible outcome after such a poor effort in first go.

Still 2 wickets to close but I don't expect more than 20-25 runs.
 
trogger said:
From the looks of this pitch india might have already had enough of a lead at the first drinks break.

200+ on this deck will need an amla or ab masterclass and probably a few slices of luck to go with it.
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You do need luck here but 210 kind of score can be chased if some one scores 40-50 runs upfront. Pitch is not that bad.
 
guess this match 'll be over in 3 days. 59 overs + half hour left.

Poor stuff from home team; still might edge past, but losing 7/26 is difficult to recover.
 
Buffet said:
Order change or not, batting unit needs to look for runs because collectively they don't have good defense against spin in these kind of tracks. Fortunately , score won't be out of reach. After poor batting effort in first go, couldn't have asked for anything better here. 220 to win is not bad. It's tough but a best possible outcome after such a poor effort in first go.

Still 2 wickets to close but I don't expect more than 20-25 runs.
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17 run lead in the 1st innings can prove very crucial now ;-)
 
Buffet said:
Goal should be to not play more than 70 overs. Not exactly but surviving 80-90 overs looks tough here so it's better to look for runs. Most stupid strategy will be to block from the both ends to survive. Some one should take the attack early on. Not much to lose because by blocking they will get out anyway. Only 2-3 players have game to block and survive for any period.

I will play more like ODI from start.
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Attacking on this pitch won't be easy unless the batsman is named ABD.

But yes, using feet/showing intent/rotating strike will certainly put the spinners off their plans. Blocking will simply play into their hands.
 
Disappointing stuff from India. Not sure what the last three batters were trying to do, should have just supported Saha.
 
Wow, such decisions can be match-turning. Why is the BCCI so idiotic?
 
We could be in for another Abu Dhabi, 2012 here. England needed 170, were bowled out for 72.
 
Saha looking dangerous. That decision will haunt South Africa.
 
12 added so far, could be critical. I think, it's 51-49 IND now
 
Just tuned in after lunch, that not out decision was atrocious and could've possibly given India the match.
 
theariezman said:
when these decisions are in india's favor they are happy and when against they are winning.

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Just like a wrong decision against India is human error and wrong decision against India's opponent is ICC = BCCI.
 
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