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That's good for you, but hey at the end of the day BJP won and majority are happy....
No it's not good for me. My state voted BJP.
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That's good for you, but hey at the end of the day BJP won and majority are happy....
No it's not good for me. My state voted BJP.
AwwwwOhh whoops I meant >>
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I marvel at the foresight of Mr. Jinnah. I really do. He looked through the facade of secularism and patriotism and reached the heart of the problem. We have to be extremely fortunate in order to see another great leader like him.
Enjoy your moment. Of your Ozzie vote counting in Modiji's comeback
Ohh whoops I meant >>![]()
Wah Modiji wah wah.
Hindus nearly double the next religion and this logic....
Just accept that there are still parts of India remaining that have rejected the BJP.
Comprehension issues?What you are actually supporting Vadra going to prison ?? No wayyyyy![]()
There is a feeling among the communist party members that minorities betrayed themI guess they are not getting enough vote here because of the presence of Communist party. Otherwise the hindu majority will be voting for the BJP.
There is a feeling among the communist party members that minorities betrayed them
This time the only motto was to defeat Modi and BJP. Assembly elections will be a different ball game.
Picked from the BBC article regarding Rahul Gandgi - 'His father, grandmother and great-grandfather all served as Indian prime ministers'.
So congress party is a family business much like PMLN and PPP in Pakistan.
Guess people are tired offamily politics in India?
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This time the only motto was to defeat Modi and BJP. Assembly elections will be a different ball game.
I beg to disagree, India was very different post independence, large parts of India rejected Hindutva politics for a long time. Even during the 90s BJP struggled in most elections. The weakening of Congress because of dynasty politics has played a big role in strengthening BJP.
If you think India has always been like this explain the politics in Tamil Nadu, Kerala, even the Telugu states. Bengal is still under Mamata. Do you know BJP has never won a Lok Sabha seat in Kerala, never won an assembly seat in Tamil Nadu? Failure of Congress has helped BJP. In places where there is strong regional party what inroads have RSS/BJP made?
The BJP wouldn't have existed had it not been for Mr. Jinnah. He succeeded in communalizing the whole subcontinent along religious lines forever to satisfy his hunger for power. Muslims would have been the second largest majority in Undivided India and an extremely influential and powerful one at that.
. All this proves how great a visionary Jinnah.
Mr Jinnah's theory failed on 2 fronts:
1. Bangladesh liberation from Pakistan.
2. Muslims in Kerala, TN, AP integrating with the mainstream and being well off in terms of education, health, employment, security. If you ever meet a Muslim from those places ask them whether they regret the decision of their forefathers to stay back in India. You know how racist the Pakistani officers were towards the East Pakistanis, even making fun of their food habits and language. Do you think a dark skinned Tamil speaking Muslim would have fit in Pakistan? I have seen them avoiding even North Indian Muslims, they always prefer to hang out with fellow Tamils.
Yeah, well done indeed. However she is still a small problem though. Bigger challenges await us now that bigot has got almost similar mandate as last time.
Errr NO, Jinnah was no visionary, he was agent built by the British to cause divide between hindus & muslims. British made him and he eventually took their ideology and helped create Pakistan...
Don’t act like Tamil Nadu rejected BJP, more like you guys only vote for one of the 2 Dravidian parties.. that too depending on who is giving more freebies during elections.I hope I never have to work outside Tamil Nadu. I do not think I can tolerate the political opinions, fascism and bigotry in North India or Maharashtra, Gujarat, even Karnataka is a gone case. I will live and die in Tamil Nadu, the more I see this kind of bigotry in Indian politics (eg. Pragya winning) the more I am thankful for the Dravidian movement. I have always been an AIADMK supporter but right now I am glad DMK is sweeping the state. You can't shake hands with the devil and expect support in this land, no matter what the reason may be. I also don't want Congress in my state, Kamaraj passed away 45 years ago. Tamil Nadu must be ruled only by Dravidian parties. This is the land of Periyar, Kamaraj and Anna, not of Nehru, Gandhis and Sanghis.
Kashmiri Muslims conditions is their own fault. In rest of India the muslims who want to work study and mingle with rest of the community are doing well. The one with the menalaity of everything against us.. doesn’t matter whether they are muslim or not will struggle anywhere in the world.Aha so you want muslims to suffer for your utopian idea of what India would have been like? Muslims are still the second largest majority in India. They are powerless now and would have been powerless if division didnt take place either. Jinnah didnt communalize anyone. That had happened already with majoritarians running around. He saw it and saved the muslims from eternal humiliation. Till this day we can see condition of muslims and especially Kashmiris under India. All this proves how great a visionary Jinnah.
Yes everyone was British agent who didnt dance to the tunes of Nehru and his ilk.
With 56" at helm of affairs with almost similar mandate as last time, everything that is detrimental to the idea of India, isn't beyond him. We'll plummet to even greater depths as if where we are currently, wasn't enough.What do think will happen to the character of Indian society in next 5 years? Will India be declared a hindu rashtra?
Modi will most likely win again in 2024. Don't see a strong opponent coming up before then.
We all knew BJP would win this election, some of us were hoping against hope. But the state of the opposition lies in tatters today, Congress has to get rid of the dynasty and start from scratch even if it takes 15 more years to mount a resurgence. Meanwhile all regional parties should come together and form a third front alliance that is non-BJP, non-Congress.
BJP getting blanked out in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, not a single seat LOL. Again in Andhra they have got zero. Respect to these 3 states and Punjab.
The BJP wouldn't have existed had it not been for Mr. Jinnah. He succeeded in communalizing the whole subcontinent along religious lines forever to satisfy his hunger for power. Muslims would have been the second largest majority in Undivided India and an extremely influential and powerful one at that.
Aha so you want muslims to suffer for your utopian idea of what India would have been like? Muslims are still the second largest majority in India. They are powerless now and would have been powerless if division didnt take place either. Jinnah didnt communalize anyone. That had happened already with majoritarians running around. He saw it and saved the muslims from eternal humiliation. Till this day we can see condition of muslims and especially Kashmiris under India. All this proves how great a visionary Jinnah.
We all knew BJP would win this election, some of us were hoping against hope. But the state of the opposition lies in tatters today, Congress has to get rid of the dynasty and start from scratch even if it takes 15 more years to mount a resurgence. Meanwhile all regional parties should come together and form a third front alliance that is non-BJP, non-Congress.
BJP getting blanked out in Tamil Nadu and Kerala, not a single seat LOL. Again in Andhra they have got zero. Respect to these 3 states and Punjab.
I beg to disagree, India was very different post independence, large parts of India rejected Hindutva politics for a long time. Even during the 90s BJP struggled in most elections. The weakening of Congress because of dynasty politics has played a big role in strengthening BJP.
If you think India has always been like this explain the politics in Tamil Nadu, Kerala, even the Telugu states. Bengal is still under Mamata. Do you know BJP has never won a Lok Sabha seat in Kerala, never won an assembly seat in Tamil Nadu? Failure of Congress has helped BJP. In places where there is strong regional party what inroads have RSS/BJP made?
Pretty sure Nehru was the main reason for the existence of Pakistan. Read scholarly written articles.
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Told you months ago BJP will win.
I am not surprised BJP won, given BJP cronies had 6 weeks to rig the counting.
A terribly sad result for me personally.
But congratulations to BJP and its supporters for their victory.
At the end of the day, the people of India have spoken and we have to respect it.
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Deep down all of us knew that BJP had an advantage this election but no one could have predicted this rout.
I mean....300 seats for BJP vs 50 for Congress eclipsing the 2014 shellacking.
That too after by & large poor performance by BJP in the last 5 years.
Even during campaigning I saw Modi go on and on about Pakistan, Balakot, nationalism, Rahul Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi and what not....while Rahul Gandhi focused about issues like employment, demo, gst (along with some Rafale and Chowkidhar Chor Hai thrown in).
Yet we get this result.
How did this happen?
From what I can see, there's no point in blaming...
1. Poor alliance stitching by Congress
2. Mahaghatbhandan
3. Modi using Balakot strikes in his campaigns
The gap is WAYYY too big for any of these factors to have made all the difference in the end.
Even if you give NDA zero seats in UP, they can still form the government. Such has been their dominance.
It all comes down to a FUNDAMENTAL POINT:
People have rejected Rahul Gandhi as PM. They don't see him as someone capable of leading the nation. They don't mind voting Congress for state elections but in Lok Sabha elections, it's MODI all the way.
Adding to that, Congress haven't executed their poll campaigns well.
1. Nyay was introduced too late. Plus people were a bit skeptical whether Congress can deliver on that promise.
2. Rahul Gandhi interviews came out too late.
3. Allocation of tickets were a mess. They didn't control infighting.
It's incredible how they MANAGED TO SCREW UP inspite of having so many issues given to them on a free platter by Modi & BJP.
The only explanation is that Congress's leadership simply doesn't inspire confidence among the voters. So much so that they are willing to give its opponents 350 seats inspite of non-performance.
So now it's Modi rule again.
For another 5 years.
Him & Amit Shah deserve it though. They have been relentless in their planning & execution. As much as I dislike them, I admire their focus and determination.
For me, there were 2 silver linings....
1. BJP hit TMC hard in Bengal. The sooner TMC is vanquished, the better it is. The amount of violence during every Bengal elections is unprecedented. Had it been a super fair election, I think BJP might have done even better in Bengal (just my guess). I am just hoping that when BJP captures power in Bengal, the violence will come down as they have a national image to maintain (I could be wrong in this regard). However, it's going to take a lot of time. I am hearing all the Left cadres (some of them goons) are joining TMC/BJP. Time will tell how this will play out. With TMC and Left destroyed in Bengal, we will see emergence of other opposition parties in there. Bengal will experience development.
2. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED the way Rahul Gandhi carried himself during the campaign. Full of grace, poise, humility. The way he handled all the questions posed to him was commendable. He may not be the sharpest tool in the shed or the most charismatic but he's a good man with sincere intentions. Maybe politics isn't cut out for him. Still furious at him since he is the SINGLE BIGGEST reason Congress lost but he does have a lot of admirable qualities. He tried to conquer HATE with LOVE but just didn't have it in him to do it. Oh well.
Congress has to self introspect. The place where it had a real leader (Captain Amarinder Singh), BJP couldn't do anything. Time for it to start looking beyond the Gandhi family (though I doubt it would ever happen lol).
Our nation needs a strong opposition. Massive mandate with no real opposition can be very dangerous.
Let's hope for the best.
Out of 50 constituencies with >30% muslim population
NDA(BJP+) - 27
UPA(Cong+) - 8
OTH: 15
Muslim women seem to have sided with BJP
I thought Milind Deora losing in South Mumbai and Sadhvi Pragya winning from her constituency were 2 of the lowest points in this elections. I'd definitely expect people of India to do better than this. Slightly surprised by the margin of BJP's victory, did not think would cross their last time tally but I guess we all knew who would win.
Very much possible. But if any consolidation happens in UP it will be on caste lines rather than religious lines. It would have helped MGB more. Most of the central government schemes like gas connection, free health care, toilets, etc will help Muslims as much as Hindus. Couple that with triple talaq there is a good chance that Muslim women voted for BJPOr BJP consolidated the Hindu votes.![]()
Yeah...Sadhvi Pragya....no words. No accomplishment except going to jail.
But then when you can appoint someone like Yogi as UP CM, why is this any surprise?
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Aatishi is an accomplished person. Improved the Delhi schooling system I heard. She lost probably due to hatred for Kejri.
Kejri though deserved it. Absolute idiot who blew up a golden chance.
Very much possible. But if any consolidation happens in UP it will be on caste lines rather than religious lines. It would have helped MGB more. Most of the central government schemes like gas connection, free health care, toilets, etc will help Muslims as much as Hindus. Couple that with triple talaq there is a good chance that Muslim women voted for BJP
Regarding Pragya people vote on party lines. Same with Gambhir. They are new with nothing to show but are riding modi wave.
This. Consolidation of Hindu votes is single biggest factor in this election, as it was in last UP assembly elections.Or BJP consolidated the Hindu votes.![]()
Lol, you know nothing about India then.Apparently Modi has been excellent for India's economy and therefore the major reason for his landslide win
100% Agreed.
Which is why this loss is on Rahul.
Take TN where people dislike Modi.
BJP got routed. DMK swept the Lok Sabha seats. Congress won almost all the seats too (aligning with DMK).
But the assembly bypoll results are similar for AIADMK and DMK.
Stalin must be feeling dejected.
Had he sided with BJP, he would have got no seats.
But when he sided with Congress, his seats are of little use.![]()
Or BJP consolidated the Hindu votes.![]()
Congress has to self introspect. The place where it had a real leader (Captain Amarinder Singh), BJP couldn't do anything. Time for it to start looking beyond the Gandhi family (though I doubt it would ever happen lol).
Our nation needs a strong opposition. Massive mandate with no real opposition can be very dangerous.
Let's hope for the best.
Indian electorate has to be most gullible electorate of all times to have voted on something like Balakot which happened weeks before voting took place instead of voting on real issues which were bothering them for last 5 years.
Apparently Modi has been excellent for India's economy and therefore the major reason for his landslide win, the anti Pakistan/Muslim stance is a distant second. Maybe Indian posters can confirm
Do not be fooled by the loksabha verdict in Delhi. AAP is definitely coming back to power in Assembly elections. People of Delhi are smart that way, they knew no point for voting for AAP in LS as they are not a national partybut when it comes to Assembly elections they will look at local issues.Yeah...Sadhvi Pragya....no words. No accomplishment except going to jail.
But then when you can appoint someone like Yogi as UP CM, why is this any surprise?
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Aatishi is an accomplished person. Improved the Delhi schooling system I heard. She lost probably due to hatred for Kejri.
Kejri though deserved it. Absolute idiot who blew up a golden chance.
Indian electorate has to be most gullible electorate of all times to have voted on something like Balakot which happened weeks before voting took place instead of voting on real issues which were bothering them for last 5 years.
Matured electorate, lol just because you got the results you wanted. See it works both ways.Right, just because you didn't get the results you wanted suddenly it is the fault of the voters and they are gullible. Every single analyst agree that the biggest surprise is the maturity of Indian voters who clearly voted based on local and national politics. But you go ahead and stay in your bubble just like how opposition leaders are doing now.
You are too slow. Milk prices have already been raised by 2 Rs just after voting ended.Just wait and watch. Price of milk and petrol will increase soon.![]()
While I'm sure many Muslims voted for the BJP, this is also true. Modi has brought an end to caste-based politics and has united the country.
Nehru, I spit every time I have to type or pronounce that name, single handedly destroyed India..... He is the reason why there is a Kashmir issue now, loss to China in the 62 war.... Never again shall the Nehru bloodline come into power (I HOPE)...
Modi will most likely win again in 2024. Don't see a strong opponent coming up before then.
While I'm sure many Muslims voted for the BJP, this is also true. Modi has brought an end to caste-based politics and has united the country.
At the end of the day, you cannot get a lot of votes by just saying "I hate Modi", which was the only agenda of opposition. They had zero things to talk on themselves, zero achievements.
Look at Smriti, she lost in 2014, yet still worked for Amethi and now is rewarded. One still have to work hard irrespective of the verdict. Congress especially Rahul does not like to work hard and thus has no results and achievements. The onus is on opposition themselves to reinvent and bring new ideas, leaders.
i thought opposition was talking about unemployment , farmer crisis , demonetization , gst mess ... only the vile oaf was shrieking about terrorist , pulwama , balakot , hindu , muslim , Gandhi family - did i miss some ? Hell the megalomaniac never mentioned BJP in his election speech - it was all poor backward tea seller bhikshak MODI MODI MODI !
Well said. Only 56" was talking about his caste, his 'humble' background, him being an outsider to Khan market gang and what not.. Btw, 56" does love his Khans....i thought opposition was talking about unemployment , farmer crisis , demonetization , gst mess ... only the vile oaf was shrieking about terrorist , pulwama , balakot , hindu , muslim , Gandhi family - did i miss some ? Hell the megalomaniac never mentioned BJP in his election speech - it was all poor backward tea seller bhikshak MODI MODI MODI !
Not really, the opposition talked about Modi more than Modi talked about himself. The opposition thought Muslim + their own caste votes is enough for victory, but that was weak and pathetic attempt to win over the public
Lol, well said.Congratulations. Your vote played a huge part in BJP's win.![]()
Do not be fooled by the loksabha verdict in Delhi. AAP is definitely coming back to power in Assembly elections. People of Delhi are smart that way, they knew no point for voting for AAP in LS as they are not a national partybut when it comes to Assembly elections they will look at local issues.
Whose fault is that, Gandhis have systematically eliminated any State leadership whenever it raised its head so as to keep their crowns. Even now they are trying to cut Amrinder to size by giving a leg up to that joker they borrowed from BJP.