Ireland (183/5) defeat Pakistan (182/6) by 5 wickets to go 1-0 up in the 3-match T2OI series

[BouncerGuy]

The Pakistani cricket team is set to face Ireland in the opening match of a three-game T20I series today on May 10 at Dublin’s Clontarf Cricket Stadium. This series serves as a crucial preparation phase for the Green Shirts ahead of the 2024 T20 World Cup, which will be co-hosted by the United States and the West Indies.

The 18-player T20 squad representing Pakistan in the upcoming World Cup has not been announced yet. The series against Ireland provides an excellent platform for the team led by Babar Azam to identify their key players. Interestingly, this will be the first time Pakistan will be playing against Ireland since their last encounter in 2009.

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Squads:

Pakistan Squad: Saim Ayub, Mohammad Rizwan(w), Babar Azam(c), Usman Khan, Fakhar Zaman, Iftikhar Ahmed, Shadab Khan, Imad Wasim, Shaheen Afridi, Mohammad Amir, Hasan Ali, Haris Rauf, Agha Salman, Abrar Ahmed, Naseem Shah, Azam Khan, Abbas Afridi, Irfan Khan

Ireland Squad: Paul Stirling(c), Andrew Balbirnie, Lorcan Tucker(w), Harry Tector, Curtis Campher, George Dockrell, Gareth Delany, Mark Adair, Barry McCarthy, Benjamin White, Craig Young, Neil Rock, Graham Hume, Ross Adair

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[BouncerGuy]

Pakistan should be winning this one for sure. No excuses left now. Rotation etc etc. Play with a team that will be going on to play in the first word cup game as well.

 

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan should be winning this one for sure. No excuses left now. Rotation etc etc. Play with a team that will be going on to play in the first word cup game as well.

As soon as Pakistan loses one game at any point, they'll panic and start to swip swop, it always happens

 

[BouncerGuy]

As soon as Pakistan loses one game at any point, they'll panic and start to swip swop, it always happens

Yeah, you are right. That is why I want this team to go full power and win it by dominating Ireland in all 3 games.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Yeah, you are right. That is why I want this team to go full power and win it by dominating Ireland in all 3 games.

Been a while since we saw Pakistan dominate anyone consistently.

It’s a mentally weak team, might even drop a game to Ireland.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Been a while since we saw Pakistan dominate anyone consistently.

It’s a mentally weak team, might even drop a game to Ireland.

World cup is just around the corner. No better time now to get on track.

 

[mominsaigol]

Yeah, you are right. That is why I want this team to go full power and win it by dominating Ireland in all 3 games.

Bro we'll never be at full power as long as we don't select players on merit and identify the correct positions.

The inclusion of Usman Khan and Saim Ayub is good, even though they've been failing but it's okay, it's a merit position.

But then you have people like Rauf, Hasan ali, Zaman khan over Ali who was our best bowler in PSL and records show his line and length is consistent as heck.

After wards we have nonsense of giving captains way way way too much power. If babar had his way, Usama mir, Nawaz, and these other bozos would be in our team.

Again idk what babar has against Abrar or Haris. Considering he was so against taking these 2 to the World cup last year and PCB had to force him to atleast take these 3 for reserves.

 

[Misia]

Some fun game's nothing more than that, wouldn't be surprised if we get beat by a spirited Irish team in their own back yard,

 

[Rana]

Some fun game's nothing more than that, wouldn't be surprised if we get beat by a spirited Irish team in their own back yard,

Wouldn’t be surprised if we get beat by them in the World Cup as well

 

[BouncerGuy]

Some fun game's nothing more than that, wouldn't be surprised if we get beat by a spirited Irish team in their own back yard,

Pakistan should play haris if he is fit. No hasan ali, please.

What will be your playing 11 for today's game? @Rana @mominsaigol

 

[Energy]

Yet again, Pakistan ends up playing in these all-to-lose, nothing-to-gain series.

 

[Rana]

Pakistan should play haris if he is fit. No hasan ali, please.

What will be your playing 11 for today's game? @Rana @mominsaigol

As if my team will ever play for Pakistan.

I’m done with trying to make this lot work.

One thing you should know is, Babar and Rizwan will never be in the top 3 of a cricket team I make.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Yet again, Pakistan ends up playing in these all-to-lose, nothing-to-gain series.

There is something to gain here. Preparing for the world cup,

 

[Rana]

There is something to gain here. Preparing for the world cup,

More like information on Ireland’s players too

Trust me, your gonna need it.

Pakistan were lucky they got exposure to Netherlands earlier in the year before CWC23. Babar still flopped against them.

 

[BouncerGuy]

More like information on Ireland’s players too

Trust me, your gonna need it.

Pakistan were lucky they got exposure to Netherlands earlier in the year before CWC23. Babar still flopped against them.

There can be many things that can be gained from this tour. Information is also one thing. Most important thing is to get your combination sorted out which is all over the place atm.

 

[Rana]

There can be many things that can be gained from this tour. Information is also one thing. Most important thing is to get your combination sorted out which is all over the place atm.

As far as combination is concerned…

Na mate. You might get a sense of security by the end of this tour…

But then England can smash that to smithereens by the end of the month.

The plan should be “let’s have no plan. Get PUNCHED in the face, and then let’s make one final call by the end of the month”.

 

[BouncerGuy]

The plan should be “let’s have no plan. Get PUNCHED in the face, and then let’s make one final call by the end of the month”.

Does this mean that you want Ireland to thrash Pakistan?

 

[Rana]

Does this mean that you want Ireland to thrash Pakistan?

Yes that would be lovely

But I don’t really care tbh bro. Can’t get behind this team

 

[Rana]

Pakistan’s general cricket blueprint is simple:

1. Bowlers bowling out of their skins to somehow restrict good teams to a par or below par score

2. Batters ‘marr khapp’ ke somehow reaching the total

 

[pakistani pride]

Surely Azam Khan will be able to hit a few against these part time cricket players?
Will give him a chance to get that average into double digits.

Also waiting to see the reactions on social media in case Azam hits 2 sixes. People will go crazy for 2 hits, as if he smashed a 20 ball 50 vs Cummins and co.

 

[pakistani pride]

Yet again, Pakistan ends up playing in these all-to-lose, nothing-to-gain series.

uhmm no. When you play the likes of Azam Khan and Ifti this is your level. Also when you are content with max 40 runs in the PP then this is your level.

Further, Shadab is the main spinner in other words a bowler who serves up half trackers or full tosses is your main spinner.

 

[Rana]

Surely Azam Khan will be able to hit a few against these part time cricket players?
Will give him a chance to get that average into double digits.

Also waiting to see the reactions on social media in case Azam hits 2 sixes. People will go crazy for 2 hits, as if he smashed a 20 ball 50 vs Cummins and co.

They are not part time cricketers. All of them are pros for counties. Some of them have been very close to represent England also. George Dockrell is a good bowler

 

[mominsaigol]

Pakistan should play haris if he is fit. No hasan ali, please.

What will be your playing 11 for today's game? @Rana @mominsaigol

Umm I think @Rana Already answered my question. It's crazy how both our minds are similar lol.

But yeah to answer the question, I've already made it clear that the replacements I would make to this squad are

1) Abdullah Shafiq for Babar: Mainly because Abdullah is willing to bat at 3, is more comfortable in hitting 6's and unlike babar wants to improve his SR. In domestic he's improved and striking at 99 in List A, and he improved in t20 from 110 to 135, so he's overall a better no 3.

Not to mention he's more talented, in a single hear the dude has a world cup century and a test 200 something Bobby hasn't achieved in test and in odi it took him 4 years to make a century against NZ, in CT he was mostly absent and played cameos. Although currently Babar is superior the gap is closing very quickly.

2) Saud for rizwan: I'm not a fan of anchorers but if you stubbornly insist on anchoring then saud is just better. Had a higher avg and sr in psl, can hit 6's better and can take singles and doubles better.

3) Saim and usman need to be given one last series, if they fail I'll make replacements but I'm willing to give them a shot atm. But this is their last go for me.

4) Fakhar is undroppable for me, he's too much of An X factor to be dropped irrespective of form.

5) Irfan Khan Niazi I would replace for Haris, Haris is flexible and can bat anywhere from no 1 to no 7 so great assest to have, his form can improve so no worries.

6) Ali needs to be the 4th pacer, These hasan ali's and rauf's need to go.

7) Chacha needs to be replaced by Tayyab Tahir

8) Imad wasim needs to bat higher at no 5.

9) Shadab needs to be replaced by Salman Ali Agha.

10) Shaheen, Naseem and Amir are okayish but I'd start looking for Mir Hamza and a few other upcoming talent as backups

11) Abrar must be frontline spinner at every turn, you can replace Usama Mir for Usman Tariq( although his questionable action might cause trouble idk)

^^ @BouncerGuy THESE are my suggestions, as for captain, I'd actually make Muhammad haris captain, he's 100x better based of his captaincy in Acc emerging cup.

For reserves

1) Sarfraz ahead of hasebullah, Sarfraz is old but in reserves he can offer valuable captaincy advice. Infact he can play a similar role to Williamson when Williamson was injured and was guiding Tom latham on how to captain.

2) Mir Hamza ahead of Hasan Ali( I think hasan will be reserve and rauf will be back in wc, brainless PCB)

 

[MenInG]

Surely Azam Khan will be able to hit a few against these part time cricket players?
Will give him a chance to get that average into double digits.

Also waiting to see the reactions on social media in case Azam hits 2 sixes. People will go crazy for 2 hits, as if he smashed a 20 ball 50 vs Cummins and co.

Hope he does and gets his form going but my issue is that his fitness is a huge risk for Pakistan

 

[FearlessRoar]

I am expecting top performance from Saim Ayub today

 

[RidiculousMan]

Surely Azam Khan will be able to hit a few against these part time cricket players?
Will give him a chance to get that average into double digits.

Also waiting to see the reactions on social media in case Azam hits 2 sixes. People will go crazy for 2 hits, as if he smashed a 20 ball 50 vs Cummins and co.

To be honest Pakistan needs him. They need a power player in the middle who can hit against both spin and pace. If Azam starts to perform. It will benefit the team in the WT20

 

[mominsaigol]

Hope he does and gets his form going but my issue is that his fitness is a huge risk for Pakistan

Is their a rule in cricket where a player just has to come in and bat only and doesn't have to field?

Aka usman khan/ Rizwan and keep and azam can just bat and walk away?

 

[mominsaigol]

I am expecting top performance from Saim Ayub today

I think everyone wants him to succeed. But if he can't then Maybe he's not ready atm.

As I said this period, Ireland and wc should be his final period to show what he's capable of.

Otherwise he needs to be dropped but not dropped forever. Dropped until he improves.

 

[FearlessRoar]

I think everyone wants him to succeed. But if he can't then Maybe he's not ready atm.

As I said this period, Ireland and wc should be his final period to show what he's capable of.

Otherwise he needs to be dropped but not dropped forever. Dropped until he improves.

and if he will not perform today, so lets just agree he is just another Mohammad Haris

 

[mominsaigol]

and if he will not perform today, so lets just agree he is just another Mohammad Haris

No, haris is a hack who lacks any footwork. He's a strong lad, but he's best utilised as a finisher in odi and a t20 opener to utilise PP.

He's not the type of player to play long innings.

Saim has footwork, technique, shots, timing and talent. But he lacks game awareness and just has no clue how to pace an innings and what shots to play. Saim has everything but execution.

Haris doesn't have everything and will get exposed unless he's utilised as a no 7 or opener in t20. Harisnwont ever make a century, he's their for short bursts of play and to attack. And he can do that because his attitude is to always attack, as the commentators say " He only knows one way to play".

 

[Bouncer]

Which channel is broadcasting it in UK and us?

 

[Omer2002]

Which channel is broadcasting it in UK and us?

BT SPORTS

 

[PakEngFan]

They are not part time cricketers. All of them are pros for counties. Some of them have been very close to represent England also. George Dockrell is a good bowler

George dockrell doesn't bowl as much nowadays he mainly plays for his batting.

 

[FearlessRoar]

No, haris is a hack who lacks any footwork. He's a strong lad, but he's best utilised as a finisher in odi and a t20 opener to utilise PP.

He's not the type of player to play long innings.

Saim has footwork, technique, shots, timing and talent. But he lacks game awareness and just has no clue how to pace an innings and what shots to play. Saim has everything but execution.

Haris doesn't have everything and will get exposed unless he's utilised as a no 7 or opener in t20. Harisnwont ever make a century, he's their for short bursts of play and to attack. And he can do that because his attitude is to always attack, as the commentators say " He only knows one way to play".

Is he a strong lad? Saim Ayub only averages 14.60 in 17 T20Is with strike rate of 125.86. He is a slogger

He is just another media hyped player, if you want to see talent look at Jake Fraser-McGurk and Jaiswal

 

[emranabbas]

I wouldn't overlook Ireland; they have a solid cricket infrastructure and boast some truly talented players.

 

[mominsaigol]

Is he a strong lad? Saim Ayub only averages 14.60 in 17 T20Is with strike rate of 125.86. He is a slogger

He is just another media hyped player, if you want to see talent look at Jake Fraser-McGurk and Jaiswal

Strong lad was for haris. Oh bhai atleast read what I wrote properly

As for fraser and jaiswal, please find these players for me in PAKISTAN.

Theirs one thing being talented in Pakistan and another being talented on the planet.

That's why university toppers in Nust or Lums get butchered and booted out and are at the bottom of their class when they attend Harvard lol.

Human beings are a product of their environment and Pakistan environment won't ever compare to Australia or India.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Looking forward to Fakhar, Azam and Iftikhar's batting

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Strong lad was for haris. Oh bhai atleast read what I wrote properly

As for fraser and jaiswal, please find these players for me in PAKISTAN.

Theirs one thing being talented in Pakistan and another being talented on the planet.

That's why university toppers in Nust or Lums get butchered and booted out and are at the bottom of their class when they attend Harvard lol.

Human beings are a product of their environment and Pakistan environment won't ever compare to Australia or India.

Harvard comment is unfair.

You are comparing Ivy League universities to regular run of the mill unis.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Is he a strong lad? Saim Ayub only averages 14.60 in 17 T20Is with strike rate of 125.86. He is a slogger

He is just another media hyped player, if you want to see talent look at Jake Fraser-McGurk and Jaiswal

Funny how when Saim performs in domestic leagues. He is next big thing. When he stumbles early on in his international Cricket then. He is a slogger.

Fraser performs in domestic leagues but he is a talent.

Logic goes brrr

 

[mominsaigol]

Harvard comment is unfair.

You are comparing Ivy League universities to regular run of the mill unis.

That's the whole point. A person Is a product of his environment.

Hence a pakistani student who tops his class would be considered talented and would be the pride of Pakistan universities.

Yet the moment he decided to do a masters in harvard or even find a way to switch or do a summer school program, the brutal reality qpuld be exposed. A topper in his uni but a run of the mill wannabie in harvard.

That's the analogy for Saim ayub and mcfraser. Saim has the potential to be thebpride of Pakistan but the moment you start comparing him to mcfraser you're in for a brutal reality check.

Theirs not much a person can do when the system is limited. PCB is the run if rhe mill uni while BCCI and CA are harvard in this context

 

[MenInG]

Back to the topic please.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Imad and Usman Khan should be in Playing XI today

 

[RidiculousMan]

When's the toss?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Toss Update: Ireland have won the toss and have opted to field

 

[stani_pak]

I wanna see a century today from any Pak batsman would make this beautiful friday even better

 

[FearlessRoar]

Toss Update: Ireland have won the toss and have opted to field

 

[mominsaigol]

That means they'll win, our bowling is dreadful. Unless we're chasing, we can't defend scores. Not with this bowling lineup

 

[Ali Active]

this is actually solid lineup today

 

[Rana]

They have to post 200

 

[emranabbas]

Not a bad shout

Usman instead of rizwan and irfan khan instead of azam khan would have been better

 

[mominsaigol]

They have to post 200

Eh, unlikely but we'll see.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Is there UK coverage for this?

 

[mominsaigol]

Not a bad shout

Usman instead of rizwan and irfan khan instead of azam khan would have been better

Rizwan is playing?

 

[FearlessRoar]

Rizwan is playing?

Yes but one down

 

[FearlessRoar]

why babar has dropped usman khan???

 

[Shafi]

Hopefully Azam will be exposed in these matches. Needs to get rid of parchi Hasan Ali as well

 

[Ahmed216]

Absolutely terrible team selection from the captain. No frontline spinner no Usman Khan. Again banking on rellu kattas

 

[emranabbas]

Rizwan is playing?

Unfortunately after playing 70+ games he still needs practice vs Ireland

 

[mominsaigol]

Unfortunately after playing 70+ games he still needs practice vs Ireland

Bro, I thought you said rizwan was absent for Ireland series and England due to injuries?

Or was that a fake report? Then? Why on earth did he walk out of the NZ game?

 

[stani_pak]

Swap Azam Khan for Salman Ali Agha.
Even if Azam Khan scores century, he should not be in the world cup squad

 

[hafizexpress]

There are not that many things that frustrate me, but Babar's over-playing Shaheen does. Shaheed had the potential to be the Starc, Boult, Bumrah, etc., of Pakistan but he is how he is now due to Babar running him down. He's single-handedly responsible for Shaheen's downfall. He's still no trash bowler, he's decent, but that's only because of how good he was.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Absolutely terrible team selection from the captain. No frontline spinner no Usman Khan. Again banking on rellu kattas

I think only one of Fakhar or Usman plays in this team. Or you drop Saim, and bring in Usman at number 3.

We will see these two options pretty much.

 

[RidiculousMan]

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[mominsaigol]

There are not that many things that frustrate me, but Babar's over-playing Shaheen does. Shaheed had the potential to be the Starc, Boult, Bumrah, etc., of Pakistan but he is how he is now due to Babar running him down. He's single-handedly responsible for Shaheen's downfall. He's still no trash bowler, he's decent, but that's only because of how good he was.

Shaheen's a good bowler when he's fit and firing but Bumrah, Starc and Boult in the prime is too much.

2015 stark was a nightmare, Bumrah when he's onsong is very very good.

Shaheen defo is a top tier bowler when he's fit and firing I 100% agree, but the 3 you mentioned are one step > his caliber.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Is there UK coverage for this?

TNT sports bro

 

[hafizexpress]

Shaheen's a good bowler when he's fit and firing but Bumrah, Starc and Boult in the prime is too much.

2015 stark was a nightmare, Bumrah when he's onsong is very very good.

Shaheen defo is a top tier bowler when he's fit and firing I 100% agree, but the 3 you mentioned are one step > his caliber.

I'm just saying that had the potential to be amongst them. The way his trajectory was and his wicket taking in all formats, that injury prior to 2022 WC changed everything. And then playing the 2022 WC made it worse. He's obviously not Bumrah, Starc and Boult level and he never will be, but I genuinely think he had the potential to reach those heights. He had the potential to be the fastest out of all of them too

 

[emranabbas]

Why isn't tapmad or tamasha or sports central broadcasting this

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm just saying that had the potential to be amongst them. The way his trajectory was and his wicket taking in all formats, that injury prior to 2022 WC changed everything. And then playing the 2022 WC made it worse. He's obviously not Bumrah, Starc and Boult level and he never will be, but I genuinely think he had the potential to reach those heights. He had the potential to be the fastest out of all of them too

He had the potential to be a Boult yes.

Starc and Bumrah no. Bumrah Is waqar younis level, waqar had the benefit of playing with the one ball, and had benefits of ball tampering, But otherwise bumrah is basically the waqar younis of this era, although I still think waqar is superior to an extent.

Starc in 2015 was basically an atg Australian bowler with really no one being able to match him. Dude had 150kph speed and his line and length was glenn mcgrath level.

Starc currently due to age and injuries and nearly 9 years since then has fizzled out, but he survives and makes do due to intelligence.

I don't see shaheen ever reaching 2015 Starc and bumrah. Boult he could have reached and that alone is a huge credit to him. But I don't see that happening and 2019 shaheen is no where near Boult.

 

[Ahmed216]

I think only one of Fakhar or Usman plays in this team. Or you drop Saim, and bring in Usman at number 3.

We will see these two options pretty much.

I think Usman should play ahead of Azam Khan. There's no basis to Azam's selection. Complete waste of a spot

 

[RidiculousMan]

The broadcast coverage service isn't going to be great for this series isn't it?

I remember the scotland series years earlier. Felt like I was watching County Cricket.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Why isn't tapmad or tamasha or sports central broadcasting this

Tapmad is broadcasting for me

 

[Usman Chadda]

I think Usman should play ahead of Azam Khan. There's no basis to Azam's selection. Complete waste of a spot

I hope this Azam Khan experiment ends by the time we start our WC campaign. He will never be good enough for international cricket with this kind of fitness.

 

[emranabbas]

Tapmad is broadcasting for me

I'm on tapmad web

 

[MenInG]

Very rustic

 

[MenInG]

I'm on tapmad web

This thread is not for commentary stuff

use the broadcast thread

 

[emranabbas]

Tapmad is broadcasting for me

I don't see option on android app either

 

[MenInG]

I think Usman should play ahead of Azam Khan. There's no basis to Azam's selection. Complete waste of a spot

It's clear that Azam is first choice.

 

[Champ_Pal]

Well done Pakistan.

Always a good idea to boost confidence before a major tournament.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think Usman should play ahead of Azam Khan. There's no basis to Azam's selection. Complete waste of a spot

Yeah I agree with you on this one.

 

[Rana]

Rizwan is opening

Not Babar