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"Jasprit Bumrah is a baby bowler in front of me and I could have easily dominated him" : Abdul Razzaq

Reason behind Bumrah's success is because current batters don't like to go after him. Travis Head went after Bumrah in 2023 WC final and it worked brilliantly.

Another example would be 5th Test between England and India (in England). Bumrah was the captain.

English batters were attacking and Bumrah had no answer (neither as a bowler nor as a captain).

Best way to deal with Bumrah is to attack his bowling.
 
Another example would be 5th Test between England and India (in England). Bumrah was the captain.

English batters were attacking and Bumrah had no answer (neither as a bowler nor as a captain).

Best way to deal with Bumrah is to attack his bowling.
To be honest its easier said than done, attacking bumrah that is

i wouldnt call head dominated bumrah, bumrah bowled well in the world cup final. head was just too good against other Indian bowlers
 
To be honest its easier said than done, attacking bumrah that is

i wouldnt call head dominated bumrah, bumrah bowled well in the world cup final. head was just too good against other Indian bowlers

I disagree.

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thats just one over, even with that over see he is at 6-2-34-2, any bowler in modern cricket will take that figure. he is special there is no denying that, anyone can get hit in a off day.

It was not just one over. Bumrah couldn't stop Head and Labu. It was because Head was attacking throughout the innings.

Also, check 5th Test between England and India in England. England were attacking and Bumrah had no answer.

Sometimes attack is the best defense.
 
Modern day batters are technically more vulnerable compared to batters from previous eras. So, job is easier for Bumrah.

I believe guys like Kallis, Mahela, Sangakara, Lara etc. would've dealt with Bumrah easily. Even Abdul Razzaq might have taken him to clearners. Abdul Razzaq once smashed McGrath for 20 runs (5 fours). Is Bumrah better than McGrath?
Kalis had issues with sreesanth and zak khan. Bumrah surely being one of the best ever would have no issues vs Kalis. The others on the list are nothing players for Bumrah.

Forget bumrah. Shami would run through sanga and mahela lmao
 
It was not just one over. Bumrah couldn't stop Head and Labu. It was because Head was attacking throughout the innings.

Also, check 5th Test between England and India in England. England were attacking and Bumrah had no answer.

Sometimes attack is the best defense.
That was right after IPl. The fifth test match. The Indian team were all tired. Bumrah captained that game. Dint have rohit etc.

In odi and t29 which is a batsman's game now, anyone can have bad days. And he's was dropped off bumrah
Catch.
 
I highly doubt that.

These two batters should've neutralized both Shami and Bumrah easily.
Not really. Not at all. They couldn't even one test match in India. They are nobodies in front of bumrah and shamy. Sorry.

Shami is one of the best bowlers of all time in Asian conditions. Bumrah with the reverse would really hurt these 2. He would expose every little deficiencies in their batting.

I have watched all of them in their peak. If they struggled vs zak and guys like sreesanth then sorry no chance vs 2 of the best bowlers in Asian conditions.
 
Not sure in what context he meant his original comments, Razzaq was a good hitter of the ball and played against some great bowlers. All evidence suggest that Bumrah would not be easy to hit for anyone.
 
The great Don Bradman was reminded of himself while watching Sachin. Guess Sir Don was also a "mechanical great". If so, I am sure Sachin won't mind at being one
Oh that old chestnut - a random throwaway comment is worshipped.

Aside from the fact that if you watch any footage of the Don and Sachin, there is nothing actually in common about their batting style, I would probably classify Bradman as not particularly stylish either and probably more mechanical.

So if that’s going to keep you guys quiet and not frothing at the mouth, please take it and stop wasting my time.
 
I quite agree with everything you said. Genetics and environment are viral in designing the person you would become.

In Sachin's case, he was incredibly lucky to be in the right environment probably had the right genes.
Sachin 100% had the right genes if he's able to play with the big boys at the age of 16.

That's life plain and simple, he was genetically built different for cricketing standards and he had the best environment to flourish as well as his enviroment supported him being in the right place, the right time + Im sure his parents or the people around him maybe coach, mentor or other players shaped his thinking to be hard working and skilled.

He had the right ingredients for everything.
 
Another example would be 5th Test between England and India (in England). Bumrah was the captain.

English batters were attacking and Bumrah had no answer (neither as a bowler nor as a captain).

Best way to deal with Bumrah is to attack his bowling.
Yes and the best way to deal with messi or ronaldo is defend against their goal scoring like they do in all the matches where they don't score goals. Insightful stuff this.
 
Yes and the best way to deal with messi or ronaldo is defend against their goal scoring like they do in all the matches where they don't score goals. Insightful stuff this.

Not a valid comparison. Different sport.

Anyway, I know it is useless to try to reason with some of the Indian supporters. Blind nationalists.
 
I don't think its far-fetched to start mentioning Bumrah's name with the greats of fast-bowling. He is the best bowler in the world right now...at his absolute peak...who has already achieved things that most fast-bowlers don't achieve in their entire careers.

I guess the only thing he is missing is a high number of wickets. But I am certain that he will will have that part covered by the time he ends his career.

The only thing that can stop him from taking a boatload of wickets are back injuries, something he has a history of. Which is not all too surprising when you look at his action.
 
Those who saw cricket in 90's should know what I was insinuating.

I think Shahid Afridi and Abdul Razzaq would've taken Bumrah to cleaners. Reason behind Bumrah's success is because current batters don't like to go after him. Travis Head went after Bumrah in 2023 WC final and it worked brilliantly.
Shahid Afridi couldn't take Munaf Patel to cleaners, but sure he would take bumrah to cleaners.
 
I don't think its far-fetched to start mentioning Bumrah's name with the greats of fast-bowling. He is the best bowler in the world right now...at his absolute peak...who has already achieved things that most fast-bowlers don't achieve in their entire careers.

I guess the only thing he is missing is a high number of wickets. But I am certain that he will will have that part covered by the time he ends his career.

The only thing that can stop him from taking a boatload of wickets are back injuries, something he has a history of. Which is not all too surprising when you look at his action.
His job is to perform in tournaments and help India be consistent there.
He will never have a lot of wickets , as an Indian fan I’m ok with that.
 
Shahid Afridi couldn't take Munaf Patel to cleaners, but sure he would take bumrah to cleaners.

Check Afridi's 2004 Kanpur innings. How about his 1998 Sahara Cup innings (scored a match-winning 109 against India)? How about his 141 against India in 1999 Test?

We can cherry pick too.
 
Not a valid comparison. Different sport.

Anyway, I know it is useless to try to reason with some of the Indian supporters. Blind nationalists.

No im agreeing with you. Best way to deal with bumrah is attack his bowling just like best way to deal with messi or ronaldo is defend against their goalscoreing. I'm surprised no batsman in world cricket has thought of your brilliant plan.
 
No im agreeing with you. Best way to deal with bumrah is attack his bowling just like best way to deal with messi or ronaldo is defend against their goalscoreing. I'm surprised no batsman in world cricket has thought of your brilliant plan.

Travis Head thought about it. Johnny Bairstow thought about it. They succeeded.
 
Says the blind the Bangladeshi who's forced to desperately fanboy over every single team

Forced? Haha!

I am just a cricket fan. I like good cricket. Doesn't matter who win (as long as it is not India :qdkcheeky ).

As I have mentioned before, I am not into secular nationalism.
 
Those who saw cricket in 90's should know what I was insinuating.

I think Shahid Afridi and Abdul Razzaq would've taken Bumrah to cleaners. Reason behind Bumrah's success is because current batters don't like to go after him. Travis Head went after Bumrah in 2023 WC final and it worked brilliantly.
They might do that in maybe 3 matches per 14 innings or something. Especially in T20s but the remaining 13 times they'll grovel.
 
Oh that old chestnut - a random throwaway comment is worshipped.

Aside from the fact that if you watch any footage of the Don and Sachin, there is nothing actually in common about their batting style, I would probably classify Bradman as not particularly stylish either and probably more mechanical.

So if that’s going to keep you guys quiet and not frothing at the mouth, please take it and stop wasting my time

Sir Don also happened to invite Sachin to his home. A privilege he hasn't done to any other visiting cricketers.

And if you think that you know more.about Sir Don than he himself,.the jokes on ya.
 
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Abdul Razzaq couldn't deal with Munaf Patel in Mohali.

He averaged below 30 ,he wasn't Viv Richard. Although a great batter by Pakistani standards
Razzaqs expression when he got out to Munaf patel in Mohali was " What happened here....?". It was not even a great delivery just a decent one.
 
Abdul Razzaq couldn't deal with Munaf Patel in Mohali.

He averaged below 30 ,he wasn't Viv Richard. Although a great batter by Pakistani standards
It’s Richards

munaf who? He probably just saw him, laughed at him and got out.
 
Razzaqs expression when he got out to Munaf patel in Mohali was " What happened here....?". It was not even a great delivery just a decent one.
He looked scared before getting out. I glanced at abdul razzaq world cup stats. 2 50s in 30 innings with poor strike rate and average even by 90s standards. Probably not the most clutch batman around. Bowling made him solid utility player though.
 
He looked scared before getting out. I glanced at abdul razzaq world cup stats. 2 50s in 30 innings with poor strike rate and average even by 90s standards. Probably not the most clutch batman around. Bowling made him solid utility player though.

Abdul Razzaq started off as a bowler. He became a batter later on.

He became a power hitter later on.

Those who watched him live don't need stats to know how destructive he could be. Check his innings in 2010 against South Africa (won a game single-handedly).
 
He looked scared before getting out. I glanced at abdul razzaq world cup stats. 2 50s in 30 innings with poor strike rate and average even by 90s standards. Probably not the most clutch batman around. Bowling made him solid utility player though.



Abdul Razzaq was a finisher with the bat. His job was to play cameos (which he did brilliantly). He used to bat in the lower middle order (but, he also batted in the top order a few times).
 
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Those who saw cricket in 90's should know what I was insinuating.

I think Shahid Afridi and Abdul Razzaq would've taken Bumrah to cleaners. Reason behind Bumrah's success is because current batters don't like to go after him. Travis Head went after Bumrah in 2023 WC final and it worked brilliantly.

These two players avgd less than 30 in ODIs.


Afridi avgd 23. He was bang avg.

2023 wc final Bumrah had figures of 2 for 43 in 9 overs. Where did Head went aftrh
 
These two players avgd less than 30 in ODIs.


Afridi avgd 23. He was bang avg.

2023 wc final Bumrah had figures of 2 for 43 in 9 overs. Where did Head went aftrh

Abdul Razzaq used to bat in lower middle order. His job was to play cameos. So, his low average makes sense. Also, batters used to average less in those days because bowling quality was much higher.

Also, Abdul Razzaq was a bowler during his earlier days. He became a batter from 1999 WC. He became a power hitter later on.

Afridi was beyond statistics. On his day, he could smash all bowlers. He had an X factor. Kanpur 2004 was one example.
 
To our dear Indian cricket fans/posters.
We Pak cricket fans are already hurting after yet another embarrassing WC.

I know its hard not to react to certain posts and it is tempting as well, but I would request you to ignore it.
anyone arguing that Bumrah is not good or that a former Pak player would smash him 24/7 should not even be taken seriously.

To my dear Pak cricket fans, please be humble and accept the fact that we are beyond pathetic and should be the last one to question a WC bowler who just won the WC....
 
What about Afridi choking against India in every single wc and averaging only 25 against us in odis.

Tbh Afridi in 1999 Tests, 2005,2006 Tests and 2014 Asia cup destroyed India so I can see why you fear him so much.

Countless other innings vs India too in Toronto or Kanpur etc.
 
Abdul Razzaq was a finisher with the bat. His job was to play cameos (which he did brilliantly). He used to bat in the lower middle order (but, he also batted in the top order a few times).
yep. The shivam dude of his time. Except less clutch under pressure.
 
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Well Pakistan, Canada, England, Australia can keep their Razzaq, we Indians will keep our Bumrah.
How about that? :bumrah
 
Well Pakistan, Canada, England, Australia can keep their Razzaq, we Indians will keep our Bumrah.
How about that? :bumrah
Because no one currently can play Bumrah in a batsman era, the hypothetical argument is being made for something that cannot happen.
 
Well Pakistan, Canada, England, Australia can keep their Razzaq, we Indians will keep our Bumrah.
How about that? :bumrah
I don't know man. According to this sweep shot guy This legendary abdul razzaq once scored a century against south africa.
 
It’s Richards

munaf who? He probably just saw him, laughed at him and got out.
It's a typo

Munaf Patel, the guy who won more wc's than Waqar, Afridi, Shoaib and Razzaq combined.

Don't worry though, you may pretend to not remember him but he gave a lifetime of sleepless nights :dhoni
 
I don't know man. According to this sweep shot guy This legendary abdul razzaq once scored a century against south africa.

He really did. I believe he scored two tons against SA (one in 2002 and one in 2010).

The thing is I don't have to resort to checking stats for Abdul Razzaq. I have seen these guys live. I watch cricket since 1997 (you were probably not born yet).

 
Tbh Afridi in 1999 Tests, 2005,2006 Tests and 2014 Asia cup destroyed India so I can see why you fear him so much.

Countless other innings vs India too in Toronto or Kanpur etc.
Yes we feared him so much in 1999, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2014 and 2016 :afridi
 
Abdul Razzaq used to bat in lower middle order. His job was to play cameos. So, his low average makes sense. Also, batters used to average less in those days because bowling quality was much higher.

Also, Abdul Razzaq was a bowler during his earlier days. He became a batter from 1999 WC. He became a power hitter later on.

Afridi was beyond statistics. On his day, he could smash all bowlers. He had an X factor. Kanpur 2004 was one example.


Batting avg of less than 30 in any era isn't great. Yes he was a power hitter but better power hitters exist today.

Afridi was a avg cricketer. And since he became the leader of Pakistan cricket, it has gone down. Even after his retirement Pakistan is still in the business of hyping players. If not for the media hype, Afridi wouldn't have played those many matches.
 
Tbh Afridi in 1999 Tests, 2005,2006 Tests and 2014 Asia cup destroyed India so I can see why you fear him so much.

Countless other innings vs India too in Toronto or Kanpur etc.

Lol. No one feared Afridi. He flopped more than he worked.
 
Razzaq made this comment back in 2019. At that time a lot of Pakistani so called experts on TV were not taking Bumrah seriously.
However, in last 5 years most Pakistani experts like Kamran Akmal, Basit Ali etc have recognised Bumrah’s greatness and appreciate his performances in nearly every show they do about India.

It would be interesting to hear from Razzaq what his opinion on Bumrah is in 2024, if he still maintains what he said in 2019 it will only prove a case of sour grapes/grand delusion.

Bumrah has the best yorker in the world – Wasim Akram ( 2019)​


Bumrah is the no.1 bowler in the world - Aaqib Javed ( 2019 )​


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Bumrah has been the best bowler for 5 years now. Yes, 2019 was early, but people who understand cricket saw something special in 2019 itself.

Razzaq saw more talent in Ahmed Sahzad than Tendulkar. His statements and anyone supporting his statements should be ignored. They don't undertsnad cricket. I am not sure why some one like that was involved as selector for Pakistan.
 
Same group of usual suspects trying their best to prove that a player from India has taken the bowling world by storm with all kinds irrational logic, and steadfast refusal to accept the reality. I am new here but with user names itself I have a feeling which way the post will be messaging.
 
When he worked game was over. In that era he got a 45 ball century in India. No one has done that to India since in India.

This isn't 2005. India doesn't play the likes of Balaji anymore.

Afridi was a very avg cricketer. Hyped by media and that led to him playing for pakistan for 17-18 years.

And that set the base for avg performers getting repeated chances for Pakistan and that trend has continued.
 
I don't think its far-fetched to start mentioning Bumrah's name with the greats of fast-bowling. He is the best bowler in the world right now...at his absolute peak...who has already achieved things that most fast-bowlers don't achieve in their entire careers.

I guess the only thing he is missing is a high number of wickets. But I am certain that he will will have that part covered by the time he ends his career.

The only thing that can stop him from taking a boatload of wickets are back injuries, something he has a history of. Which is not all too surprising when you look at his action.
Bumrah plays in the easiest batting era possible that's why he doesn't have that many.

In terms of class, he's easily amoung the names of the greatest bowlers of all time.
 

Bumrah has the best yorker in the world – Wasim Akram ( 2019)​


Bumrah is the no.1 bowler in the world - Aaqib Javed ( 2019 )​


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Bumrah has been the best bowler for 5 years now. Yes, 2019 was early, but people who understand cricket saw something special in 2019 itself.

Razzaq saw more talent in Ahmed Sahzad than Tendulkar. His statements and anyone supporting his statements should be ignored. They don't undertsnad cricket. I am not sure why some one like that was involved as selector for Pakistan.
Bumrah is currently one of the best bowler in the modern times no doubt
 
This isn't 2005. India doesn't play the likes of Balaji anymore.

Afridi was a very avg cricketer. Hyped by media and that led to him playing for pakistan for 17-18 years.

And that set the base for avg performers getting repeated chances for Pakistan and that trend has continued.
Yes, they think smashing Mongia and Balaji is the same as Bumrah
 
I always had high praise for Bumrah but his performance in Ct 2017 Final made me doubt it but it appears that it was just a rare off day
That's given, but I was just trying to show that even 5 years ago many Pakistani players had all praise for Bumrah.
 
Not sure what the argument is?

Razzaq would hit Bumrah for 4s just as any other bowler.

He would also get bowled often because of Bumrah skills.

Is there anything else I am missing?
 
Tbh Afridi in 1999 Tests, 2005,2006 Tests and 2014 Asia cup destroyed India so I can see why you fear him so much.

Countless other innings vs India too in Toronto or Kanpur etc.
Averaged 25 vs India in ODIs and 7.5 in T20Is I think.

Is this the player we were supposed to be afraid of?
 
This isn't 2005. India doesn't play the likes of Balaji anymore.

Afridi was a very avg cricketer. Hyped by media and that led to him playing for pakistan for 17-18 years.

And that set the base for avg performers getting repeated chances for Pakistan and that trend has continued.

Lol have some respect he won you a series in Pakistan.

Shame you can't acknowledge good performances by Pakistani players. Shows you don't really understand cricket care only about nationalism.
 
Scarring is deep can be seen in all these denials. Did you forget his bowling? Bangalore 2005 etc?
The real scaring is the loss in every single wc, especially 2007 and 2011, which cuts deep. You think meaningless bilateral odis can compensate for that
 
Lol have some respect he won you a series in Pakistan.

Shame you can't acknowledge good performances by Pakistani players. Shows you don't really understand cricket care only about nationalism.

My favourite bowler was and remains Wasim Akram.

Pakistan has produced some great cricketers likr

Wasim Imran Waqar Miandad

Then there have been World class performers like

Inzy Saqlain Mushy Anwar YK Akhtar etc.

But Afridi is not one of them. He was a very avg cricketer.
 
Scarring is deep can be seen in all these denials. Did you forget his bowling? Bangalore 2005 etc?
Pakistan won the Bangalore test because they scored 500 plus runs. And Kaneria took a fifer in the first innings.

Its amusing how you are giving credit to Afridi when actually it was YK and Inzy who took the game away.
 
Scarring is deep can be seen in all these denials. Did you forget his bowling? Bangalore 2005 etc?

Bowling average of 60 and 52 vs India in both formats of white ball cricket.

In Test cricket he did well.

But this is like saying Ajay Jadeja has scared Pakistani fans for life after thrashing Waqar once.

Or Venkatesh Prasad because he removed Aamir Sohail and took 5fers in 1999 vs Pakistan.
 
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Bowling average of 60 and 52 vs India in both formats of white ball cricket.

In Test cricket he did well.

But this is like saying Ajay Jadeja has scared Pakistani fans for life after thrashing Waqar once.

Or Venkatesh Prasad because he removed Aamir Sohail and took 5fers in 1999 vs Pakistan.

Yes they have. I'm willing to admit it.
 
To the topic, I don't think Razzaq is totally wrong bits n pieces hacks like Afridi & Razaq may occasionally dominate Bumrah. I don't think this is something extraordinary, when a batsmen closes his eyes and swings cluelessly you will occasionally get away with it...
 
Abdul Razzaq started off as a bowler. He became a batter later on.

He became a power hitter later on.

Those who watched him live don't need stats to know how destructive he could be. Check his innings in 2010 against South Africa (won a game single-handedly).
He was a poor man's Hardik Pandya ultimately. On his day he could land a few blows - but that applies to even Bumrah lol.

Overall a journeyman cricketer who famously choked in the biggest of occasions - especially in world cup matches vs arch rivals India, he averaged just 8 with the bat, 90 with the ball and famously dropped a dolly off Sachin during that epic 98 at Centurion in 2003.

His World Cup numbers are inferior to his bilateral numbers indicating how he buckled at the biggest stage.
 
There is no way we can say for sure that Razzaq would have destroyed Bumrah. Bumrah is a top-quality bowler and Razzaq was a good hitter so it would have been a fair contest
 
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