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August

  • Friday 15th (8pm) – Bournemouth (H)
  • Saturday 23rd (3pm) – Newcastle United (A)
  • Saturday 30th (3pm) – Arsenal (H)

September

  • Saturday 13th (3pm) – Burnley (A)
  • Saturday 20th (3pm) – Everton (H)
  • Saturday 27th (3pm) – Crystal Palace (A)

October

  • Saturday 4th (3pm) – Chelsea (A)
  • Saturday 18th (3pm) – Manchester United (H)
  • Saturday 25th (3pm) – Brentford (A)

November

  • Saturday 1st (3pm) – Aston Villa (H)
  • Saturday 8th (3pm) – Manchester City (A)
  • Saturday 22nd (3pm) – Nottingham Forest (H)
  • Saturday 29th (3pm) – West Ham United (A)

December

  • Wednesday 3rd (8pm) – Sunderland (H)
  • Saturday 6th (3pm) – Leeds United (A)
  • Saturday 13th (3pm) – Brighton & Hove Albion (H)
  • Saturday 20th (3pm) – Tottenham Hotspur (A)
  • Saturday 27th (3pm) – Wolverhampton Wanderers (H)
  • Tuesday 30th (8pm) – Leeds United (H)

January

  • Saturday 3rd (3pm) – Fulham (A)
  • Wednesday 7th (8pm) – Arsenal (A)
  • Saturday 17th (3pm) – Burnley (H)
  • Saturday 24th (3pm) – Bournemouth (A)
  • Saturday 31st (3pm) – Newcastle United (H)

February

  • Saturday 7th (3pm) – Manchester City (H)
  • Wednesday 11th (8pm) – Sunderland (A)
  • Saturday 21st (3pm) – Nottingham Forest (A)
  • Saturday 28th (3pm) – West Ham United (H)

March

  • Wednesday 4th (8pm) – Wolverhampton Wanderers (A)
  • Saturday 14th (3pm) – Tottenham Hotspur (H)
  • Saturday 21st (3pm) – Brighton & Hove Albion (A)

April

  • Saturday 11th (3pm) – Fulham (H)
  • Saturday 18th (3pm) – Everton (A)
  • Saturday 25th (3pm) – Crystal Palace (H)

May

  • Saturday 2nd (3pm) – Manchester United (A)
  • Saturday 9th (3pm) – Chelsea (H)
  • Sunday 17th (3pm) – Aston Villa (A)
  • Sunday 24th (4pm) – Brentford (H)

A new season coming up!

Can the Champions of England retain their title?

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Excellent signing by Liverpool in Florian Wirtz (22) from Leverkusen in Germany. But the transfer fee they are talking about is just crazy. I think Liverpool can retain the title next season.
 
@Markhor Happy with the fixtures?

Newcastle and Arsenal early up. :wenger @Mamoon Will LFC retain their champion status?
Everyone has to play the same opponents home and away so never been too fussed about the fixture list. The start is trickier than last season though. However our fixtures during AFCON look favourable and we should win most of them without Salah.

So far Hughes and Edwards have done a fabulous job in the transfer market. Frimpong and Wirtz confirmed. Kerkez fee agreed.

I think the next few weeks will be more about outgoings. Nunez, Chiesa, Elliott, Quansah, Robertson, Doak, and Morton are likely to join Kelleher out the door. Probably looking at around £180m in sales.

If we can sign Ekitike and Guehi for reasonable fees then it's the perfect window.
 
Everyone has to play the same opponents home and away so never been too fussed about the fixture list. The start is trickier than last season though. However our fixtures during AFCON look favourable and we should win most of them without Salah.

So far Hughes and Edwards have done a fabulous job in the transfer market. Frimpong and Wirtz confirmed. Kerkez fee agreed.

I think the next few weeks will be more about outgoings. Nunez, Chiesa, Elliott, Quansah, Robertson, Doak, and Morton are likely to join Kelleher out the door. Probably looking at around £180m in sales.

If we can sign Ekitike and Guehi for reasonable fees then it's the perfect window.

Guehi would be a great addition, Englands top 1 or 2 centre defenders. I think Newcastle are also interested but LFC should be able to sway him. We need cover for Ibu and VVD in case of injuries and rotation esp with Quansah gone now.

There is speculation Isak is interested but do you think LFC will spend so big again?
 
Guehi would be a great addition, Englands top 1 or 2 centre defenders. I think Newcastle are also interested but LFC should be able to sway him. We need cover for Ibu and VVD in case of injuries and rotation esp with Quansah gone now.

There is speculation Isak is interested but do you think LFC will spend so big again?
I think chances of us signing Wirtz and Isak in the same window is about as likely as me being the next Pope.

Will be absolutely staggered if it happens.
 
Liverpool reject Bayern Munich approach for Diaz

Liverpool have rejected a formal approach from Bayern Munich for forward Luis Diaz.

Bayern director of sport Max Eberl has been informed that the Premier League club have no intention of selling Diaz and will not enter into discussions for the attacker.

Diaz, 28, was the subject of a similar approach from Barcelona earlier this summer which the Premier League champions also rebuffed.

Liverpool are adamant that Diaz is not for sale at any price this summer, given his key contribution to the team since his arrival from Porto in 2022.

The Colombia international scored 22 goals for club and country last season as he emerged as an integral member of Arne Slot's title-winning side.

He scored 13 goals and made seven assists in the league as Liverpool won the title by 10 points.

Diaz, who has two years left to run on his contract at Anfield, attracted interest from Manchester City last summer and also has admirers in Saudi Arabia.

"I'm very happy at Liverpool - I've always said so," said Diaz when on international duty earlier this summer.

"The transfer market is opening, and we're trying to arrange what's best for us. I'm waiting to see what happens.

"If Liverpool give us a good extension or I have to see out my two-year contract, I'll be happy. It all depends on them. I'm here to decide and see what's best for us and the future."

Meanwhile, Liverpool have confirmed former Netherlands international Giovanni van Bronckhorst will be joining the club as an assistant coach to manager Arne Slot.

Van Bronckhorst succeeds John Heitinga, who left the Premier League champions to become the head coach at Ajax.

Fifty-year-old Van Bronckhorst, who played in the Premier League for Arsenal, has managed Rangers, Besiktas and Feyenoord.

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Jota has passed away after a car accident. Condolences to his family.


Very sad news for all Liverpool supporters. 🙁
 
Liverpool football star Diogo Jota, 28, killed in car crash – report

Liverpool star Diogo Jota has died in a car crash, according to local reports in Spain.

The 28-year-old Portuguese forward died in a crash near Zamora, in northwestern Spain, according to the Spanish news agency EFE.

The agency reports his brother, Andre, was also killed in the crash early on Thursday morning on the Rias Bajas Highway (A-52) near Palacios de Sanabria.

The accident happened at around 12.40am local time, when a car left the road and caught fire on the road heading towards Benavente, according to El Mundo.

It comes just 10 days after the player had got married, before sharing photos from the wedding on his social media.

He had three children.

Jota signed for Liverpool in September 2020 from Wolverhampton Wanderers for a fee of more than £40million.

His brother, Andre, 26, played for Pennafiel, a Portuguese second division club.

 
Lfc have dealt with numerous tragedies sadly. , we have another . His young 3 children must be devastated along with his wife and family . I watched him play many times , never met but feels like a death of someone you know well.

He did amazing things for the club .

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Whenever he came onto the field and had the ball you knew right away something could happen. He has had his share of injuries, but a really likable person. Very tragic this :(
 
Just saw the pictures of the car, or whatever was left, truly horrific :(
 
Sad day for all those related to Jota and the footballing world in general.
 
Andre Silva and Diogo Jota

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There should have been a separate thread for this.

Very sad to hear the parents have lost their only two children - Jota and Andre. Jota was actually advised to travel by road to the UK due to his lung situation, the incident leading to their deaths itself was totally a freak accident.

Extremely sad. Jota was a likeable person in the footballing world. To win two major trophies this year, and then get married few weeks ago to his childhood partner and then for this to happen? Really heartbreaking.
 
Liverpool football star Diogo Jota, 28, killed in car crash – report

Liverpool star Diogo Jota has died in a car crash, according to local reports in Spain.

The 28-year-old Portuguese forward died in a crash near Zamora, in northwestern Spain, according to the Spanish news agency EFE.

The agency reports his brother, Andre, was also killed in the crash early on Thursday morning on the Rias Bajas Highway (A-52) near Palacios de Sanabria.

The accident happened at around 12.40am local time, when a car left the road and caught fire on the road heading towards Benavente, according to El Mundo.

It comes just 10 days after the player had got married, before sharing photos from the wedding on his social media.

He had three children.

Jota signed for Liverpool in September 2020 from Wolverhampton Wanderers for a fee of more than £40million.

His brother, Andre, 26, played for Pennafiel, a Portuguese second division club.

Cristiano Ronaldo mourns Diogo Jota’s death: ‘It doesn’t make sense’​


Portugal’s national team captain, Cristiano Ronaldo, was shaken by the news of teammate Diogo Jota’s death, saying in a social media post, “It doesn’t make sense.”

The 28-year-old Liverpool forward died following a car crash in Spain on Thursday, along with his brother, Andre Silva, 25, also a footballer.

A Spanish police report said the incident occurred on the A-52 highway in the province of Zamora.

Jota and Ronaldo played together for the national team less than a month ago, as Portugal defeated Spain 5-3 on penalties to win the UEFA Nations League title for the second time. Jota came off the bench in that match during the second half of extra time.

The June 8 Nations League final in Munich, Germany, was the last time Jota played.

Later that month, he married his partner of 10 years, with whom he had three children.

“It doesn’t make sense. We were only just in the national team together, you had only just got married,” Ronaldo posted on the social media platform X.

“To your family, your wife and your children, I send my condolences and wish them all the strength in the world. I know you’ll always be with them. Rest in peace, Diogo and Andre. We’ll all miss you.”

Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/20...a-death-car-crash-reaction-liverpool-portugal
 
Diogo Jota and André Silva's funeral held in Portugal

Footballers Diogo Jota and André Silva have been honoured by their family, friends and teammates at a joint funeral in Portugal.

Jota, 28, was laid to rest alongside his brother, Silva, 25, after they died in a car crash on Thursday.

Hundreds of locals and supporters gathered at the Igreja Matriz in Gondomar, where the brothers are from, on Saturday.

The funeral also brought together huge names from across football, including Jota's teammates Virgil van Dijk and Andy Robertson, who were seen carrying floral tributes into the church ahead of the ceremony.

The service was held in Gondomar, a small Portuguese city near Porto, that has been left reeling after the brothers died.

Jota and Silva died at about 00:30 local time in the Spanish province of Zamora.

It is understood they were on the way to take a ferry and return to Liverpool for Jota's pre-season training when the accident happened.

The Portugal forward had undergone minor surgery and doctors had advised him against flying.

The accident came just 11 days after Jota married his long-term partner Rute Cardoso, with whom he had three children.

Players from Liverpool FC, who only three months ago were celebrating their Premier League win, arrived at the funeral together.

Watching them walk in line with each other, almost as they do when walking onto the pitch, was an emotional experience.

There was a strong feeling of community, but also a shared sombreness.

Many were visibly upset, with supporters on the other side of the barrier applauding the players. One woman in the crowd shouted towards them as they walked in: "Força!" - strength.

Family and close friends walked into the church in complete silence, many of them with their heads bowed down as the church bell rung.

One person in the procession held up a sign with Silva's photograph, which read: "Para sempre um de nós." (Forever one of us.)

So much was the brothers' impact on football and their local community that some of the guests had to watch the ceremony from outside of the church, often hugging and comforting one another.

Locals and football fans in the crowd watched silently for most of the service, which went on for about an hour.

Many wore football shirts and carried merchandise from the different teams across Portugal and abroad where Jota and Silva, who played for local club Penafiel, spent some time in.

One of these fans was Antônio Moreira, who set off early in the morning to be one of the first outside the Igreja Matriz de Gondomar where the funeral took place.

"I know I won't be able to go inside, but I wanted to pay my respects," he told me from the barrier outside the church.

Antônio later showed me his phone case - a little old, he said - with the emblem of FC Porto.

Antônio recalled fond memories of Jota on the field, as he spent a year playing for the local club, but added that the brothers were so much more than football stars.

They were good people, from a humble family, people like us."

This has hit him especially hard, he said, as 40 years ago his family went through a similar tragedy. His aunt, uncle and young cousin died in a car accident three days before Christmas, leaving his other cousin behind.

Jota and Silva may not have been his direct family, he said, but their deaths felt personal.

"This is what I think: losing your parents is hard, really hard. But losing your children is unimaginable," he added.

Jota's journey as a player inspired many people here in Gondomar, football fan Fábio Silva told me.

He has kept up with the brothers since they started in the local clubs - and said he had to be here for their final journey.

"Despite the impact they had on football, and even financially, they never let it show," he told me, adding the family are well-loved in the town.

"The community is sad, devastated," he said.

Having spent some time with them over the years, Fábio said there was only one reason he was here: "Respect for the brothers, the family."

Avid football fans Fábio and Rafaela travelled from the nearby town Lordelo to honour Jota and Silva.

Wearing Jota's shirt, Fábio said it was important to him to be here "for Jota's final day". Both said it meant a lot to the community that so many people showed up to pay their respects.

They watched the ceremony from outside the church, like hundreds of other fans - which Fábio said was hard. Nodding, Rafaela agreed, but said it was also beautiful.

"This is an example that you need to live life to the max," Rafaela said, "because you never know when will be your last day."

"Say everything you want to say, and need to say - tomorrow could be too late," Fábio added.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98jdq57dedo
 
Diogo Jota was driving at time of crash that killed him and his brother, Spanish police believe

Spanish police say "all the evidence so far" shows Liverpool star Diogo Jota was driving the vehicle involved in a crash in which both he and his brother were killed.

Authorities also believe that evidence is pointing towards the vehicle "significantly exceeding the speed limit for the highway" at the time.

The accident happened at 12.30am local time on Thursday (11.30pm Wednesday BST) on the A-52 motorway in the region of Cernadilla, Zamora.

"Among other things, the marks left by one of the vehicle's wheels are being examined," the statement from the Civil Guard in Zamora added.


 
The second best Swedish striker in the world will be a top signing for Liverpool.

Newcastle will be extremely reluctant to sell to a PL team, but this is also a test of Isak’s ambition. He is in his prime and he should not waste his prime at a club like Newcastle. He should push hard for the Liverpool move.

I highly doubt Newcastle will let him go, they are the richest club in football history now. Isak would join LFC but he is tied down on a 3 year contract? @Geordie Ahmed any news from your end?

It may well lead to a fight over Ekitike .

If Isak signs, the 21st record breaking title ...is in the bag!
 
I highly doubt Newcastle will let him go, they are the richest club in football history now. Isak would join LFC but he is tied down on a 3 year contract? @Geordie Ahmed any news from your end?

It may well lead to a fight over Ekitike .

If Isak signs, the 21st record breaking title ...is in the bag!
In today’s market, players hold all the cards. Club’s refusal and contract length become secondary when the player is pushing for a move.

This can definitely happen if Isak has the ambition to step up in his career.
 
In today’s market, players hold all the cards. Club’s refusal and contract length become secondary when the player is pushing for a move.

This can definitely happen if Isak has the ambition to step up in his career.

You are a correct but only if the player demands to leave. Isak would like LFC move but has not put in a transfer request, which is the official way. Newcastle are in the CL, they are a top 4 side who want to improve. Imo If I was Newcastle manager I would sell him to invest in the squad as they have various positions to fill, while LFC won the league with their squad and are only trying to improve and improve to dominate.
 
You are a correct but only if the player demands to leave. Isak would like LFC move but has not put in a transfer request, which is the official way. Newcastle are in the CL, they are a top 4 side who want to improve. Imo If I was Newcastle manager I would sell him to invest in the squad as they have various positions to fill, while LFC won the league with their squad and are only trying to improve and improve to dominate.
Newcastle don’t feel the need to sell but they are also afraid to splurge the cash because of FFP regulations, so they are in a standstill and have been for a couple of years now.

They are not focused on challenging for the league at this point, and someone like Isak who is in his prime and one of the top strikers in the world deserves to play for a team that is looking to win the league now.

This is an excellent move for both Liverpool and Isak, but not so much for Newcastle because they don’t want to position themselves as a feeder club for the big 5.

If Liverpool agree personal terms with Isak this could become the most interesting transfer saga of the summer. Right now Liverpool seems to be testing the waters by inquiring about his availability. If they are serious about this they will open talks with Isak’s representatives soon.
 
Newcastle don’t feel the need to sell but they are also afraid to splurge the cash because of FFP regulations, so they are in a standstill and have been for a couple of years now.

They are not focused on challenging for the league at this point, and someone like Isak who is in his prime and one of the top strikers in the world deserves to play for a team that is looking to win the league now.

This is an excellent move for both Liverpool and Isak, but not so much for Newcastle because they don’t want to position themselves as a feeder club for the big 5.

If Liverpool agree personal terms with Isak this could become the most interesting transfer saga of the summer. Right now Liverpool seems to be testing the waters by inquiring about his availability. If they are serious about this they will open talks with Isak’s representatives soon.

Cant disagree with this, however Isak is not like Gyokeres, he's more mild mannered and less likely to kick up a fuss. Also Isak is the superstar in his current club, he may want to move to LFC but he wont be top 3 stars in the club. I think Newcastle's Saudi owners dont give a hoot and ordered the directors to simply say NO.
 
The second best Swedish striker in the world will be a top signing for Liverpool.

Newcastle will be extremely reluctant to sell to a PL team, but this is also a test of Isak’s ambition. He is in his prime and he should not waste his prime at a club like Newcastle. He should push hard for the Liverpool move.
Gyokeres over Isak? Heard it all now
 
Gyokeres over Isak? Heard it all now
Yes, Gyokeres is a far more lethal goal scorer. That is obviously by their goalscoring record in international football too and they play for the same team. The gulf is massive.

Gyokeres - 15 goals in 26 matches for Sweden
Isak - 16 goals in 52 matches for Sweden

In terms of club football, not in a million years will Isak score 54 goals in one season while playing in Portugal. On the other hand, Gyokeres will easily score more than 27 goals in one season while playing for Newcastle.

Gyokeres will score way more goals in the PL and every level than Isak does, but I hope Liverpool signs him so that we don't hear the excuse that Isak is scoring less than Gyokeres because he plays for a weaker and defensive-minded team like Newcastle.

Frankly, it is bordering on disrespect to compare the two. Gyokeres is clearly on a different level. Their scoring records do not lie.
 
The second best Swedish striker in the world will be a top signing for Liverpool.

Newcastle will be extremely reluctant to sell to a PL team, but this is also a test of Isak’s ambition. He is in his prime and he should not waste his prime at a club like Newcastle. He should push hard for the Liverpool move.

"Second best Swedish striker"

Aye, okay :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
I highly doubt Newcastle will let him go, they are the richest club in football history now. Isak would join LFC but he is tied down on a 3 year contract? @Geordie Ahmed any news from your end?

It may well lead to a fight over Ekitike .

If Isak signs, the 21st record breaking title ...is in the bag!

From our side the message appears to be clear that he is not for sale, the Chairman has apparently told the club that they are not to sell him

However I am not naive that in this day and age players ultimately play a big part in deciding what happens, so if he wants to leave it makes holding on to him difficult

However like you say he has 3 years left on his contract so we hold the biggest cards if it comes down to him wanting to leave

I don't think he pushes for a move but if he doesn't sign a new contract then it means we would have to look to sell him in 12 or 24 months time

If it was up to me I wouldn't sell him, I'd offer him a new contract, if he rejects it then I'd keep him and sell in 2 years time. Having Isak for the next 2 years is far more valuable to us and at 27 he'd still be able to command a decent fee
 
Newcastle don’t feel the need to sell but they are also afraid to splurge the cash because of FFP regulations, so they are in a standstill and have been for a couple of years now.

They are not focused on challenging for the league at this point, and someone like Isak who is in his prime and one of the top strikers in the world deserves to play for a team that is looking to win the league now.

This is an excellent move for both Liverpool and Isak, but not so much for Newcastle because they don’t want to position themselves as a feeder club for the big 5.

If Liverpool agree personal terms with Isak this could become the most interesting transfer saga of the summer. Right now Liverpool seems to be testing the waters by inquiring about his availability. If they are serious about this they will open talks with Isak’s representatives soon.

This is simply not true

Last few windows were a struggle for us as we had to juggle PSR however it works on a 3 year rolling cycle and the first year of the takeover where we spent around £100m has dropped off

That combined with our increase in revenue, as well as a couple of January sales (Almiron and Kelly) mean we are in a healthier PSR position

We don't need to sell any of our biggest players and we can still have an active summer to address the areas we need to

Though with the way PSR works we might need to make a sale in a year or two however we have a few saleable assets so we'd have alternative options to needing to sell Isak
 
From our side the message appears to be clear that he is not for sale, the Chairman has apparently told the club that they are not to sell him

However I am not naive that in this day and age players ultimately play a big part in deciding what happens, so if he wants to leave it makes holding on to him difficult

However like you say he has 3 years left on his contract so we hold the biggest cards if it comes down to him wanting to leave

I don't think he pushes for a move but if he doesn't sign a new contract then it means we would have to look to sell him in 12 or 24 months time

If it was up to me I wouldn't sell him, I'd offer him a new contract, if he rejects it then I'd keep him and sell in 2 years time. Having Isak for the next 2 years is far more valuable to us and at 27 he'd still be able to command a decent fee

Unlikely Isak will demand a move, he has improved so much at Newcastle and imo will love to win a major trophy with this club. From a Liverpool POV its good to see the club going for the best of the best.
 
Where’s the lie?

Gyokeres has to score just 1 goal in next 26 matches for Sweden to match Isak’s tally.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Int matches are only really relevant in Euros or World cup. Strikers score tons in friendlies and qualifying. Gyokeres will score goals but its a different ball game when up against PL defenders not Portuguese league defenders.
 
Int matches are only really relevant in Euros or World cup. Strikers score tons in friendlies and qualifying. Gyokeres will score goals but its a different ball game when up against PL defenders not Portuguese league defenders.
How many goals do you think Isak will score in a season if he plays for Sporting Lisbon, and why do you think there is such a massive gulf between the two when it comes to scoring for Sweden?
 
Where’s the lie?

Gyokeres has to score just 1 goal in next 26 matches for Sweden to match Isak’s tally.

🤣🤣🤣🤣
As if that is the only benchmark when judging strikers

Gyokeres is 54 Premier League goals behind Isak, that's a far bigger gap

Also, why is Gyokeres valued at less than Isak and if he's better why did Liverpool not go for him instead of Isak?
 
How many goals do you think Isak will score in a season if he plays for Sporting Lisbon, and why do you think there is such a massive gulf between the two when it comes to scoring for Sweden?
Look at the ages they made their international debut

The bulk of Gyokeres games/goals have came lately and he's played as the striker

Isak started at 17 and has been moved around in different positions as he was establishing himself

You are only signing Gyokeres because Isak isn't attainable for you
 
How many goals do you think Isak will score in a season if he plays for Sporting Lisbon, and why do you think there is such a massive gulf between the two when it comes to scoring for Sweden?

Every top manager would prefer Isak over Gyokeres, even Arteta but Arsenal couldnt afford him.

Remember Gyokeres started his career in England but no top flight club wanted him. He has improved vastly but needs to prove it in the PL.
 
As if that is the only benchmark when judging strikers

Gyokeres is 54 Premier League goals behind Isak, that's a far bigger gap

Also, why is Gyokeres valued at less than Isak and if he's better why did Liverpool not go for him instead of Isak?
Gyokeres is valued less because he doesn’t have the Premier League tax. Even if you argue that Isak is better (which he clearly isn’t in terms of goals at least), you cannot argue that there is a £70m gap between them.

For example, I would take Rice over Szobozlai, but I admit that the gap between them is not worth £40m. Rice’s price was inflated because of Premier League + English tax.

As far as why Liverpool go for him, well clubs make bad decisions. Liverpool had a really bad experience signing Nunez from Portuguese league, so perhaps they were discouraged by that, although Gyokeres is nothing like him.

Same goes for Arsenal, Chelsea, City United and Liverpool when it comes to Isak. All of them could have easily signed Isak when he was at Sociedad, but only Newcastle showed the faith and they have reaped the rewards.

Similarly, a lot of clubs could have signed Haaland when he had a breakthrough season in Norway but they didn’t act on it.

Gyokeres will comfortably outscore Isak in the PL just like he comfortably outscores him for Sweden and will outscore him everywhere. If Liverpool end up paying £70m more for an inferior goal scorer to Gyokeres, they will realize their mistake but it will be too late.

There is no way Isak scores 54 goals in a season for Sporting L, and Gyokeres definitely scores more than Isak has in the PL.

Isak has 54 goals in 86 PL appearances. This is a cakewalk for Gyokeres, whose scoring capabilities are very close (if not on par) with Haaland and Isak isn’t at that level as a goal scorer.
 
Look at the ages they made their international debut

The bulk of Gyokeres games/goals have came lately and he's played as the striker

Isak started at 17 and has been moved around in different positions as he was establishing himself

You are only signing Gyokeres because Isak isn't attainable for you
That’s a cop out.

Gyokeres was the top scorer of the 2024-2025 UNL, with a significantly higher goals per game ratio than Isak.

No matter how you look at it, Gyokeres is simply a more prolific goalscorer. He will outscore Isak in every league.

Also, I am glad that Isak is “not attainable”. Why would I want Arsenal to spend £70m extra for an inferior goalscorer who is almost the same age?
 
Every top manager would prefer Isak over Gyokeres, even Arteta but Arsenal couldnt afford him.

Remember Gyokeres started his career in England but no top flight club wanted him. He has improved vastly but needs to prove it in the PL.
No top manager would want to spend £70m extra on an inferior goal scorer who is almost the same age.

Not every striker is a teen prodigy, some take time to grow. For example, Kane was getting passed around from one English club to another on loan until he was 21-22 and had a crap scoring record before he exploded at Spurs.

Gyokeres wasn’t very good until the last 2-3 years but he has reached an amazing level now and is a deadlier goalscorer than Isak.

It is funny to say that he needs to prove himself in the PL when he has destroyed Man City in the UCL. He will outscore Isak in every league.

In terms of growth spurt, Isak isn’t much different either. He scored just 10 goals in his last season in Spain at the age of 22, but 3 years later he is one of the best strikers in the world for sure, just not as good as Gyokeres is now.
 
But I really hope that Isak moves to Liverpool so than when Gyokeres outscores him, we don’t hear the excuse that he plays for a relatively weaker team than Arsenal with a more defensive coach.
 
No top manager would want to spend £70m extra on an inferior goal scorer who is almost the same age.

Not every striker is a teen prodigy, some take time to grow. For example, Kane was getting passed around from one English club to another on loan until he was 21-22 and had a crap scoring record before he exploded at Spurs.

Gyokeres wasn’t very good until the last 2-3 years but he has reached an amazing level now and is a deadlier goalscorer than Isak.

It is funny to say that he needs to prove himself in the PL when he has destroyed Man City in the UCL. He will outscore Isak in every league.

In terms of growth spurt, Isak isn’t much different either. He scored just 10 goals in his last season in Spain at the age of 22, but 3 years later he is one of the best strikers in the world for sure, just not as good as Gyokeres is now.

A one off game v City when their form was poor isn’t enough evidence of him winning golden boot in his first PL season . It will also depend on the chances created for him , so the likes of Odegaard need to step up
 
That’s a cop out.

Gyokeres was the top scorer of the 2024-2025 UNL, with a significantly higher goals per game ratio than Isak.

No matter how you look at it, Gyokeres is simply a more prolific goalscorer. He will outscore Isak in every league.

Also, I am glad that Isak is “not attainable”. Why would I want Arsenal to spend £70m extra for an inferior goalscorer who is almost the same age?

The bulk of his goals haven't come in a top level league/competition

Once Gyokeres does that he can be called a prolific/top scorer, until then he could just be another Kezman, Werner etc etc
 
International comparison is a bit moot, Isak is a proven world class striker in PL and Newcastle/Liverpool are playing in the PL, not at international level. Every time I see him in PL, he oozes class, the only black mark against him is his injury record.

Whereas Gyokeres is not proven in PL till he delivers.
 
Acc to Sky Sports LFC are now in talks Ekitike . Newcastle were never going to sell Isak
 
Acc to Sky Sports LFC are now in talks Ekitike . Newcastle were never going to sell Isak
Although this is good news for Arsenal, City and Chelsea, it is also sad to see that Isak has 0 ambition and is happy to waste his prime at a club that doesn’t offer him the opportunity to win the PL and UCL.

Isak should be desperate to move to Liverpool now and become a part of their history. He is the same age as Salah was when he joined Liverpool in 2017.
 
International comparison is a bit moot, Isak is a proven world class striker in PL and Newcastle/Liverpool are playing in the PL, not at international level. Every time I see him in PL, he oozes class, the only black mark against him is his injury record.

Whereas Gyokeres is not proven in PL till he delivers.
The bulk of his goals haven't come in a top level league/competition

Once Gyokeres does that he can be called a prolific/top scorer, until then he could just be another Kezman, Werner etc etc
A one off game v City when their form was poor isn’t enough evidence of him winning golden boot in his first PL season . It will also depend on the chances created for him , so the likes of Odegaard need to step up

Gyokeres owns Isak in every competition. Same will be the case in the Premier League. They are simply at a different level when it comes to goal scoring.

It is difficult for some fans to accept this now, but they will in 12 months.

Also, another important point to note is that Gyokeres has only missed 5 matches due to injury in his career, while Isak has been highly unreliable in terms of fitness.

I am so happy that Isak is “unattainable” for Arsenal and they have settled for Gyokeres.
 
Isak is better than Gyokeres, only a fool would think otherwise

You can show as many selective stats as you like, the reality is otherwise

I guarantee if you asked anyone, fans and managers alike who they would take out of the two if money wasn't a factor they would pick Isak 99% of the time
 
Although this is good news for Arsenal, City and Chelsea, it is also sad to see that Isak has 0 ambition and is happy to waste his prime at a club that doesn’t offer him the opportunity to win the PL and UCL.

Isak should be desperate to move to Liverpool now and become a part of their history. He is the same age as Salah was when he joined Liverpool in 2017.

What about the players at Arsenal, have they not wasted their prime? At least Isak has won a trophy, tell me what Saliba has won? Or Rice? Or Saka?
 
Isak is better than Gyokeres, only a fool would think otherwise

You can show as many selective stats as you like, the reality is otherwise

I guarantee if you asked anyone, fans and managers alike who they would take out of the two if money wasn't a factor they would pick Isak 99% of the time
It doesn’t matter what they think now, the truth will unfold this season.

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Acc to Sky Sports LFC are now in talks Ekitike . Newcastle were never going to sell Isak
Which I'd be happy with. His statistical profile is similar to Isak (albeit it's the Bundesliga which is quite an open and attacking league). What's particularly promising is how involved he is in buildup play. The clips show him to be a good dribbler with fast feet, and the stats reflect that in how highly he ranks in progressive carries, take ons, assists and shot creating actions:


Admittedly it's a massive fee for someone who's only had one breakout season and not totally refined. His shot power and aerial ability can be improved. I watched him vs Tottenham in the Europa League because we were linked with him even back then. He scored away in the 1st leg but struggled in the 2nd leg when Ange played a low block - although Frankfurt created next to nothing. If he plays for Liverpool he'll generally play versus teams setting up similarly.

I wouldn't want us to miss out on someone that may emerge as a breakout star, but we've generally seen the club would rather keep their powder dry if they can't sign their #1 target.
 
What about the players at Arsenal, have they not wasted their prime? At least Isak has won a trophy, tell me what Saliba has won? Or Rice? Or Saka?
It is not about winning it is about competing.

Newcastle today is what Arsenal were in the last few years of Wenger. A team that was not competing to win the PL and the UCL and was aiming to finish top 4 with the odd domestic cup. Players like Van Persie, Sanchez, Fabregas, Nasri and others were not willing to stay in such circumstances.

In the last couple of years, Arsenal's ambition has been to win the league. That is the expectation and if Arteta doesn't win the league this season, the pressure will keep building up.

Newcastle currently have no intention or desire to win the PL or UCL any time soon. They are not competing for it, and Eddie Howe will not be sacked for not winning the league. Currently, they are not at a level where a world class player in his prime would want to play unless they are a homegrown player with deep affinity for the club.

It is quite disappointing that prime Isak is happy to stay at a club where he knows he has 0 chance of winning the PL and UCL this season and is not pushing go to Liverpool who want him.
 
It is not about winning it is about competing.

Newcastle today is what Arsenal were in the last few years of Wenger. A team that was not competing to win the PL and the UCL and was aiming to finish top 4 with the odd domestic cup. Players like Van Persie, Sanchez, Fabregas, Nasri and others were not willing to stay in such circumstances.

In the last couple of years, Arsenal's ambition has been to win the league. That is the expectation and if Arteta doesn't win the league this season, the pressure will keep building up.

Newcastle currently have no intention or desire to win the PL or UCL any time soon. They are not competing for it, and Eddie Howe will not be sacked for not winning the league. Currently, they are not at a level where a world class player in his prime would want to play unless they are a homegrown player with deep affinity for the club.

It is quite disappointing that prime Isak is happy to stay at a club where he knows he has 0 chance of winning the PL and UCL this season and is not pushing go to Liverpool who want him.

Absolute nonsense

That's a lie you are telling yourself to help you cope with your love for Arteta

Players don't grow up dreaming about competing, they want to win things, which I totally understand

If Isak wants to join Liverpool I'd get it since they are in a far better position than us to be winning things

I just don't like the double standard you are employing, if Isak staying with us shows 0 ambition then Saliba/Saka etc staying with you is the same
 
Which I'd be happy with. His statistical profile is similar to Isak (albeit it's the Bundesliga which is quite an open and attacking league). What's particularly promising is how involved he is in buildup play. The clips show him to be a good dribbler with fast feet, and the stats reflect that in how highly he ranks in progressive carries, take ons, assists and shot creating actions:


Admittedly it's a massive fee for someone who's only had one breakout season and not totally refined. His shot power and aerial ability can be improved. I watched him vs Tottenham in the Europa League because we were linked with him even back then. He scored away in the 1st leg but struggled in the 2nd leg when Ange played a low block - although Frankfurt created next to nothing. If he plays for Liverpool he'll generally play versus teams setting up similarly.

I wouldn't want us to miss out on someone that may emerge as a breakout star, but we've generally seen the club would rather keep their powder dry if they can't sign their #1 target.

Now you mention it I recall watching the same match and was impressed even in the second leg, looks a natural talent and I concur with the rest. £80m is a lot of money though but the strikers market is limited atm.
 
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Absolute nonsense

That's a lie you are telling yourself to help you cope with your love for Arteta

Players don't grow up dreaming about competing, they want to win things, which I totally understand

If Isak wants to join Liverpool I'd get it since they are in a far better position than us to be winning things

I just don't like the double standard you are employing, if Isak staying with us shows 0 ambition then Saliba/Saka etc staying with you is the same
He's in full troll mode, it's good you see straight through his nonsense.

Reality is with PSR restrictions its very difficult to organically grow a huge increase in profit and turnover over a "short period of time". Unless a club is spot on with their transfers, selling well from academy and huge sponsorship deals. Everyone knows if Newcastle owners could have free reign to thrown money around like Chelsea and City did all those years ago, then Newcastle could buy all the players they wanted.

Indeed the Arsenal fan base 🤡 is dressing up Arsenal so called ambition when last 5 years have been failure.

If Arsenal had ambition they would have saved their money and at least tried to make an offer for isak
 
It is not about winning it is about competing.

Newcastle today is what Arsenal were in the last few years of Wenger. A team that was not competing to win the PL and the UCL and was aiming to finish top 4 with the odd domestic cup. Players like Van Persie, Sanchez, Fabregas, Nasri and others were not willing to stay in such circumstances.

In the last couple of years, Arsenal's ambition has been to win the league. That is the expectation and if Arteta doesn't win the league this season, the pressure will keep building up.

Newcastle currently have no intention or desire to win the PL or UCL any time soon. They are not competing for it, and Eddie Howe will not be sacked for not winning the league. Currently, they are not at a level where a world class player in his prime would want to play unless they are a homegrown player with deep affinity for the club.

It is quite disappointing that prime Isak is happy to stay at a club where he knows he has 0 chance of winning the PL and UCL this season and is not pushing go to Liverpool who want him.

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Typical delusional post
Winning is what counts. Let me make it short and sweet. Only winners are remembered, not also rans.
 
“It’s not about winning it’s about competing .”

I request @mods to intervene and not allow this this mentality on a Liverpool thread ! Please merge the particular post with the Arsenal thread 🙏🤣
 
If Arsenal had ambition they would have saved their money and at least tried to make an offer for isak
Why would Arsenal waste an extra £70m on Isak when Gyokeres is better?

Arsenal can buy Gyokeres + Eze for less than Isak’s price. It is a no-brainer.
 
Absolute nonsense

That's a lie you are telling yourself to help you cope with your love for Arteta

Players don't grow up dreaming about competing, they want to win things, which I totally understand

If Isak wants to join Liverpool I'd get it since they are in a far better position than us to be winning things

I just don't like the double standard you are employing, if Isak staying with us shows 0 ambition then Saliba/Saka etc staying with you is the same

Not sure what part is confusing to you. There is absolutely no parallels between Newcastle and Arsenal.

Newcastle are not going into this season, or any season in the last few years, with the aim of winning the league and the CL.

No Newcastle fan will judge this season or the previous season or any season by whether Newcastle won the league or not.

Saliba/Saka are playing for a club that is trying to win the league. Isak is playing for a club that is not even trying to do that.
 
Not sure what part is confusing to you. There is absolutely no parallels between Newcastle and Arsenal.

Newcastle are not going into this season, or any season in the last few years, with the aim of winning the league and the CL.

No Newcastle fan will judge this season or the previous season or any season by whether Newcastle won the league or not.

Saliba/Saka are playing for a club that is trying to win the league. Isak is playing for a club that is not even trying to do that.

I'm not confused by anything, I'm simply challenging your double standards

We finished closer to you than you did to Liverpool

You don't know what we are trying to do, our summer activity has only just started and there will come a time when we are expected to challenge for the league and keeping hold of our best players is part of that

If you think Isak staying at us shows a lack of ambition then you simply have to extend that to Saliba/Saka too
 
I'm not confused by anything, I'm simply challenging your double standards

We finished closer to you than you did to Liverpool

You don't know what we are trying to do, our summer activity has only just started and there will come a time when we are expected to challenge for the league and keeping hold of our best players is part of that

If you think Isak staying at us shows a lack of ambition then you simply have to extend that to Saliba/Saka too
Can't wait for the response to this

"I use to respect your opinion, but I need to now lower my IQ by 100 points, to respond to you"
 
I'm not confused by anything, I'm simply challenging your double standards

We finished closer to you than you did to Liverpool

You don't know what we are trying to do, our summer activity has only just started and there will come a time when we are expected to challenge for the league and keeping hold of our best players is part of that

If you think Isak staying at us shows a lack of ambition then you simply have to extend that to Saliba/Saka too
You are generally a rational poster but you are losing the plot here because of your support for Newcastle.

Newcastle are not fighting to win the league and you know it but you don’t want to accept it because it reflects the lack of ambition of supposedly the richest club in the world.

There are no double-standards here. Arsenal is aiming to win the league, Newcastle is not. Playing for Arsenal doesn’t reflect lack of ambition for a top player but playing for Newcastle does.
 
Can't wait for the response to this

"I use to respect your opinion, but I need to now lower my IQ by 100 points, to respond to you"
Your IQ cannot be higher than 100 if you are arguing that Newcastle and Arsenal are on equal footing right now.
 
You are generally a rational poster but you are losing the plot here because of your support for Newcastle.

Newcastle are not fighting to win the league and you know it but you don’t want to accept it because it reflects the lack of ambition of supposedly the richest club in the world.

There are no double-standards here. Arsenal is aiming to win the league, Newcastle is not. Playing for Arsenal doesn’t reflect lack of ambition for a top player but playing for Newcastle does.

I'm not losing any plot, I'm simply being consistent

I have absolutely no issue if Isak wants to leave, he isn't the first player and he won't be the last

I just take issue with this idea that if he stays with us (he still has 3 years left on a contract he signed) then he means he has zero ambition, that's ridiculous

How many years of winning nothing before you criticise Saliba for having zero ambition?
 
Making things up as usual, when did I say Newcastle and Arsenal were on equal footing? The fact that your resorting to made up comments again is hilarious 😂

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🤣🤣🤣 seems the forums number 1 🤡 doesn't understand that Newcastles owners are limited to what they can spend due to PSR, take the restrictions off and Saudi owners would blow everyone out of the water

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Maroon, apart from a few selective stats, what attributes of play would you say that Gyokeres is superior to Isak in?
 
Maroon, apart from a few selective stats, what attributes of play would you say that Gyokeres is superior to Isak in?
There is nothing selective about the stats. Gyokeres completely outclasses Isak in terms of goals scored in every comp including the national team and they play for the same country in the same era.

As strikers, you would only judge them based on how many goals they score. They are also roughly the same age, and Gyokeres also has a much better fitness record.

I think you can argue that Isak is probably better outside the box and can dribble more, but there isn’t a £70m gap between the two by any means and even if they were the same price, I would go for Gyokeres because his scoring record is just insane, and probably only Haaland can currently match him in terms of pure output.

I will be very surprised if he doesn’t win the golden boot or doesn’t run Haaland very, very close for the golden boot race this season. I fully expect to score a lot more than Isak in the PL as well, whether he is playing for Newcastle or Liverpool.
 
🤣🤣🤣 seems the forums number 1 🤡 doesn't understand that Newcastles owners are limited to what they can spend due to PSR, take the restrictions off and Saudi owners would blow everyone out of the water

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It is not even relevant why Newcastle is not spending. If you have a billion pounds and you are not allowed to access them, are you a billionaire?

The fact is that Newcastle are not contenders for the PL and the UCL and neither are they looking to compete on those fronts right now. There is no pressure on Howe to win those competitions and his success/failure with not be judged by winning/losing those competitions.

The measure of success for Newcastle and Arsenal currently are very different, and this is why I have a problem with @Geordie Ahmed assessment that Saliba or Saka staying at Arsenal reflects a lack of ambition.

Staying at a club that is aiming to win the league and the CL and measures its success/failure by winning/losing those competitions is not the same as staying at a club that is not even looking to win these comps and success and failure criteria are different.

Finishing 3rd and making UCL QF will be an underwhelming season for Arsenal but a successful for Newcastle, so that is why I have a problem with drawing comparisons between the ambition of Isak and Arsenal players.

So yes, Isak stating at Newcastle and not forcing a move to Liverpool shows lack of ambition on his part, because he is one of the best strikers in Europe right now and at his age, he needs to play for a club whose success/failure is measured by winning/losing the league and the UCL, not by making top 4.
 
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