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New Zealand [615/9d] defeat England [353, 197] by an innings and 65 runs to win 1st Test

Damn.

One of the ATG knocks by BJW. As good as McCullum’s triple-century against India few years back. I hate to say this but New Zealand fully deserve to wrap it up tomorrow.

England should be ashamed of taking their foot off the gas in typical English style. Archer in particular has been a major downer in this match.

Well done New Zealand - finally some good news against England in 2019.
 
absolutely
New zeland Impressed me.
looking forward to seeing india vs n.z in n.z

tough battle to both teams. I predict a draw.

As for this series well n.z should pull it off I guess. England keep chopping and changing too many players. Need a fixed starting 11. I think they miss Anderson as well.
 
Excellent test match over 4 days so far with game balance riping back and forth. England will need to battle hard to save test now.
 
Damn.

One of the ATG knocks by BJW. As good as McCullum’s triple-century against India few years back. I hate to say this but New Zealand fully deserve to wrap it up tomorrow.

England should be ashamed of taking their foot off the gas in typical English style. Archer in particular has been a major downer in this match.

Well done New Zealand - finally some good news against England in 2019.

Hyperbole much [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]?

Watling and Santner showed the green England batters how to bat patiently in a test match on a slow wicket, only attacking when the bowlers were completely ground down.

Archer is not being used properly by Root who continues to flog his young racehorse.

NZ should win from here barring a massive effort from Root and Stokes.
 
Hyperbole much [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]?

Watling and Santner showed the green England batters how to bat patiently in a test match on a slow wicket, only attacking when the bowlers were completely ground down.

Archer is not being used properly by Root who continues to flog his young racehorse.

NZ should win from here barring a massive effort from Root and Stokes.

Which part did you find hyperbolic?
 
Hyperbole much [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]?

Watling and Santner showed the green England batters how to bat patiently in a test match on a slow wicket, only attacking when the bowlers were completely ground down.

Archer is not being used properly by Root who continues to flog his young racehorse.

NZ should win from here barring a massive effort from Root and Stokes.
Stokes has been a thorn in our sides with his Kiwi grit, expecting that to continue tomorrow. Hopefully we'll be able to knock the others over.
 
Big day tomorrow for the English batsmen. All have things to prove.
If Stokes saves this one his rating will go even higher than it already is. A good chance for Root to comeback in form at the right moment and also for Pope to show that he belongs. Should be an interesting day of cricket. I don't think England will just collapse, NZ will have to fight to win that one.
 
Stokes has been a thorn in our sides with his Kiwi grit, expecting that to continue tomorrow. Hopefully we'll be able to knock the others over.

Durham grit! He was only a Kiwi ten years, but he has been a Northern Briton for 18 since.

Cracks are opening up, so NZ should win tomorrow,
 
ATG knock. Super flat wicket with an inexperienced attack.

Considering the context of the situation, I do believe this is one of best ever Test knocks by a WK batsman. Let’s not discredit him because of the flatness of the wicket or Root’s poor captaincy. Tremendous show of perseverance and resilience that deserves to be translated into a match-winning effort.
 
Simple task for NZ tomorrow- Get Stokes cheaply and makes it 1-0.
 
It’s not that simple. The bowling plan was wrong. Too much short stuff early on, Archer overbowled again.

Like it or not but it's true, once the conditions don't suit England's medium fast smears then there hampered, its always been the case, I think the duke needs to be scrapped in county cricket and home tests as the over whelming movement and seam gives the bowlers here false sence of hope, le4s face it 75mph trundle4s in county games in April and May are lethal, I say bring the kooqabura into England then the bowlers will have to build additional skill sets when the ball doesn't move and with this the real cream will rise to the top which will help England alot oversees
 
Like it or not but it's true, once the conditions don't suit England's medium fast smears then there hampered, its always been the case, I think the duke needs to be scrapped in county cricket and home tests as the over whelming movement and seam gives the bowlers here false sence of hope, le4s face it 75mph trundle4s in county games in April and May are lethal, I say bring the kooqabura into England then the bowlers will have to build additional skill sets when the ball doesn't move and with this the real cream will rise to the top which will help England alot oversees

You might have a point about the Kookaburra. The batters will score zillions for a season but then the bowlers will learn new skills.

Archer is a proper quick not a medium pacer, he’s just being overbowled.

This is a ok attack, better than any since Swann retired, but NZ know this wicket and batted and bowled more patiently and sensibly on it.
 
You might have a point about the Kookaburra. The batters will score zillions for a season but then the bowlers will learn new skills.

Archer is a proper quick not a medium pacer, he’s just being overbowled.

This is a ok attack, better than any since Swann retired, but NZ know this wicket and batted and bowled more patiently and sensibly on it.

I saw how archer was bowling,he was bowling 130 k to 135 k in his first spell.

This is called trundling for someone who was bowling in 140s during the ashes.

Even Colin de Grandhomme bowled better than him.
 
Archer bowled quite a few in the 140-145 region as well. The real trundling was done by Broad. At times he was slower than southee and Curran.
 
I really can't remember if I have posted already but terrific work by Watling and historic stupidity by England.

Even before the start of the test they were talking about using Archer as an "enforcer"....do they not remember the failed experiment of Broad as the same enforcer? Let your bowlers bowl damn it! Archer is fast and can seam/swing at times, let him aim for wickets rather than this ridiculous enforcer tactic.
 
You might have a point about the Kookaburra. The batters will score zillions for a season but then the bowlers will learn new skills.

Archer is a proper quick not a medium pacer, he’s just being overbowled.

This is a ok attack, better than any since Swann retired, but NZ know this wicket and batted and bowled more patiently and sensibly on it.

Archer needs to show The mentality of a enforcer rather than sulk when the going gets tough, that's why I admired Brett lee he was always racing in no matter what, archer reminds me of Winston Benjamin a former Windies quick who on a good day was hostile, but on most days would be innocuous, surely with broads age playing curran is a big risk, on a flat deck curran becomes powder puff which then puts more strain on broad, I would play another quick bowler bowler
 
First half an hour well negotiated by Denly and Root and not so good bowling by Santner and Southee.

The only thing is that England should look to score at the same moment because if they can take a lead that will buy them time.
 
What has happened to root?
If this continues, Babar will soon overtake him
 
I feel English tactics of saving this game is wrong - they are trying to save this game by playing out ~120 overs; but without moving scorecard much; means Kiwis have entire overs to get 10 wickets (Pom won’t recover the deficit- either draw by blocking 120+ overs or lose by innings). They should look to score as well so that the deficit is recovered and Kiwis will have to bat again - might, might bail out a draw with time ticking over.
 
Is it just me or Mitch Santner is chucking the ball? I’ve noticed this throughout this Test match. The guy chucks it when he is trying to bowl a flatter delivery with drift
 
looks like England is getting a phainta here. Looks likely they will lose badly. Just like the mediocre pakistan.
 
well done n.z.
respect.
A very good team indeed. England missed Anderson and waokes. ali would have been effective in this pitch. England may have still lost but the scoreline would have been a lot closer.
 
There was hardly any doubt what the result of this match would be from day 1. England have been pathetic away from home for so long.
 
England have also been pathetic at home in tests unless they win the toss.

The WC "win" is masking a lot of their issues.
 
England shown their auqaat outside home.

Well done NZ!

NZ 615/9 decl
ENG 353, 197-all out (96.2)

New Zealand won by an innings and 65 runs

PLAYER OF THE MATCH
BJ Watling
 
England were crushed by New Zealand as the tourists lost the first Test by an innings and 65 runs at the Bay Oval.

Resuming on 55-3, England needed to bat through the day to save the Test but were bowled out with 21.4 overs remaining in Mount Maunganui.

Joe Denly made 35 from 142 balls and Ben Stokes 28 from 84 but no batsman could produce a defining innings.

Pace bowler Neil Wagner took a superb 5-44 and Mitchell Santner 3-53 as the Black Caps secured a 1-0 series lead.

The second and final Test begins at 22:00 GMT on Thursday.

New Zealand could be without Trent Boult, who was absent for much of the day with a rib injury, but the performance of his other bowlers will offer captain Kane Williamson some reassurance.

England were let down by their shot making and will be left to rue the collapse on the second day that prevented them posting a substantial total.

It is perhaps fortunate for England the series is not part of the World Test Championship, meaning that they have not lost out on any points in defeat.

But it was a fine all-round performance from New Zealand, and leaves England with plenty to ponder before they travel to Hamilton.

Stuart Broad said before play on day five that England "don't just believe we can save this game, we expect to".

At times, it looked as though they might. Joe Root and Denly batted serenely in the first hour of the day and Stokes and Denly showed real discipline in their 52-run stand.

While New Zealand were disciplined with the ball, limiting England's scoring options, the tourists were largely architects of their own downfall. They were passive and, when they did decide to hit out, they picked the wrong shot to the wrong ball.

Root was caught tamely at gully off a De Grandhomme short ball, Stokes dragged a wide delivery onto his stumps, Ollie Pope thrashed another wide ball to short cover, where Santner took a superb diving catch, and Jos Buttler was bowled leaving a yorker.

Only Denly could really claim to have fallen to a good ball, a rising short delivery from Wagner that caught his glove as he tried to shoulder arms.

Much of England's pre-series talk was about patience, and they had the perfect template to follow after watching BJ Watling's lengthy innings over the previous two days.

On this evidence, it will be a long learning process.

New Zealand are second in the Test rankings and they showed why - this was a complete performance, grinding England down with the bat before preying on the tourists' long-held batting weaknesses.

With strike bowler Boult only able to bowl one over before walking off with a rib injury, New Zealand had to rely on their change bowlers to take the wickets needed.

A superb spell from Wagner, who switched to round the wicket after becoming frustrated with the footholes, did the damage. Known as a bowler who favours short-pitched bowling, he instead used his variations with the old ball and found movement with the new one in Boult's absence.

Sam Curran and Jofra Archer provided some late entertainment but it never felt as though New Zealand were panicked, and Wagner wrapped up the innings in consecutive balls to dismiss Archer and Broad.

While left-arm spinner Santner did not add to his three wickets from overnight, he found enough turn and bounce to keep England's batsmen wary.

Should Boult miss the next Test, New Zealand could call on extra pace, in the form of Lockie Ferguson or Matt Henry. They have plenty of options - something which England will be wary of.

England captain Joe Root: "We did a lot of good stuff - we just need to do it for longer. It's different to the style of cricket we've had to play in our home conditions.

"We can't panic and think it's the end of the world. We are working hard behind the scenes and if we come back strong, we'll hopefully level it up."

Ex-England batsman Mark Ramprakash on TMS: "England didn't quite get their mentality right.

"Stokes said runs would be important, but they didn't bat normally. England went nowhere. It's that indecision that cost Root his wicket."

New Zealand captain Kane Williamson: "It feels great to win a Test match and it took a huge amount of work to get past their total.

"It was huge heart from our middle order to get over 600 and that gave us the only chance of winning."

England bowler Steven Finn on TMS: "There are lessons for England to learn.

"If you look at England's first innings, they'd laid a platform after day one but didn't capitalise on day two, and that's probably the difference."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/50541533
 
Well done, NZ. Great win! However it doesn't much to defeat England, at least outside their comfort zone.
 
3 innings defeats in the space of 2 days.

This was the most surprising though. Pakistan and BD losing by an innings is understandable as they are nowhere bear good enough as their hosts but England ? I thought it should have been a close match atlesst. Not a one-sided thrashing like this.
 
You might have a point about the Kookaburra. The batters will score zillions for a season but then the bowlers will learn new skills.

Archer is a proper quick not a medium pacer, he’s just being overbowled.

This is a ok attack, better than any since Swann retired, but NZ know this wicket and batted and bowled more patiently and sensibly on it.

The last 8 times england has crossed 350 in first innings they have lost by an innings in 4 of them. So 50% of time an inning loss. Which just shows the bowlers are clueless on flat pitches. Not even minnows have that bad a record after scoring so much in first innings
 
The phainta that awaits England next year when they tour us is gonna be otherworldly and epic and dare I say would probably end a few careers.
 
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The phainta that awaits England next year when they tour us is gonna be otherworldly and epic and dare I say would probably end a few careers.

Don't be that excited. Eng are good in subcontinent conditions. Even better than nz. Nz tied in Sri Lanka and eng won 3-0

And nz won v pak in the uae last year.
 
Have they started crying yet?

Ha! I think they're still in shock after failing to retain the Ashes. Root said that this defeat was because of the batsmen in the first innings and there's some truth in that but when your bowling attack consistently fails in away series despite the batters putting on 350, then it's time they accept that the bowling is not all it is touted to be.
 
Don't be that excited. Eng are good in subcontinent conditions. Even better than nz. Nz tied in Sri Lanka and eng won 3-0

And nz won v pak in the uae last year.

except we won't prepare rank turners. it will be low bouncy flat wicket. it will be hard for England.
 
Don't be that excited. Eng are good in subcontinent conditions. Even better than nz. Nz tied in Sri Lanka and eng won 3-0

And nz won v pak in the uae last year.

Doesn't matter one bit what NZ or England did against the lesser Asian teams lol. Phainta is inevitable, last time they toured with a much stronger team, played against a not so settled team with a newly appointed captain, won all the tosses still went home with a proper phainta and this time they will be against the behemoth itself at it's own turf.
 
Archer bowled quite a few in the 140-145 region as well. The real trundling was done by Broad. At times he was slower than southee and Curran.

Broad bowled tight and gave less runs even though he didn't picked up the wicket or he was slow.
Broad is good with Kookaburra ball.
I believe he will do better in next test.
 
Broad bowled tight and gave less runs even though he didn't picked up the wicket or he was slow.
Broad is good with Kookaburra ball.
I believe he will do better in next test.

Tight but no penetration at all. NZ batted really well too so credit to them.
 
A cowardly surrender.

This is a very talented side that is being led by a tactically inept captain. Root is an elite batsman but the pressure of captaincy has cluttered his mind. He needs to be relieved of his duties immediately. Buttler or Broad would be my preferred choices for captaincy.
 
Played NZ.

Lots for England to think about.

They really need runs from the skipper. Maybe it is time to promote Buttler so Root can get his batting concentration back. Buttler wouldn’t handle his bowlers any worse and is arguably better with the media.
 
So three sides suffered innings defeat one after another , i have never seen that happen.

Six consecutive matches.

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