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New Zealand beat Bangladesh by 7 wickets in the first Test

Executioner said:
He is not a test natural. He is a lazy batsman who only believes in flashy drives and zero intent to rotate the strike using deft hands. Someone like Williamson isn't as talented as Tamim say in LoIs but scores bucket loads of runs because he is a smart operator who knows what the situation demands.

Tbh our entire culture is such that we don't believe in greatness through hard work. Soumya and Taskin themselves are labelled as superstars when they haven't achieved Nothing whilst mominul has achieved more than these two combined but hardly has any following or endorsement.
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Thats a typical Sub continental thing. Shorter formats have more mass following while FC cricket and Tests matter only to the hard core supporters and not the masses. Plus lack of popularity of Test stars is also because BD do not play enough tests. Once you start playing test regularly and doing well, Test specialists will also start getting better recognition.
 
ShoonyaSifar said:
Thats a typical Sub continental thing. Shorter formats have more mass following while FC cricket and Tests matter only to the hard core supporters and not the masses. Plus lack of popularity of Test stars is also because BD do not play enough tests. Once you start playing test regularly and doing well, Test specialists will also start getting better recognition.
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We need role models for that. Mominul is an ideal role model for batsman in Bangladesh

A sweet timer of the ball. Averages 50+ despite playing so limited amount of cricket. Our cricket is going in the right direction but our progress has been halted because of sudden influx of T20s. Teams like Afghanistan benefitted from that.

Ireland and Bangladesh? Not so because power hitting and fast bowling isn't comkon herr
 
Not that I don't want to sound sore but T20 couldn't have come at a worse time for Bangladesh cricket.

We were making progress in other two formats and all of a sudden we had to deal with T20s because every team was playing it. Boards were making money out of leagues and players were getting experience playing abroad.

Eventually you see a team who is struggling in all formats because hey they have to improve in every format otherwise they will be left out.
 
25 fours in this game which = 100 runs in 25 balls.

Currently Bangla are on 145 with 38 overs gone.

So Bangla have scored 45 runs in the other 33.5 overs.

Just wow

Or am i missing something here
 
Speedster1 said:
25 fours in this game which = 100 runs in 25 balls.

Currently Bangla are on 145 with 38 overs gone.

So Bangla have scored 45 runs in the other 33.5 overs.

Just wow

Or am i missing something here
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Correction : 1 six has been scored as well so

25 fours + 1 six in this game which = 106 runs in 26 balls.

Currently Bangla are on 145 with 38 overs gone.

So Bangla have scored 39 runs in the other 33.4 overs.
 
Shocking batting considering Bangla were only 2/3 down and had 2 set batsman at the crease. Should be looking to get at least a 100 off the last 10, dont see that happening however.
 
Riad is a bit of a joke in Tests. Always plays a rash shot and gets out. We have much better batsman than him. Batsman averaging 60+ in our domestics. I know international cricket is different but why have a batsman who sells his team down the drain
 
Till now Bangladesh made more runs by two wkts fall than Pak team's first innings total of their first test of last tour. Impressive performance by bd than then number 1 team's performance consider bd tour very little.
 
Speedster1 said:
Correction : 1 six has been scored as well so

25 fours + 1 six in this game which = 106 runs in 26 balls.

Currently Bangla are on 145 with 38 overs gone.

So Bangla have scored 39 runs in the other 33.4 overs.
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Yes, you are missing quality of batsmanship, because of mixing format. This wicket has enough to get a side all-out for 150, hence Ken has put attacking field & bowlers are bowling inviting length - what the batsmen are doing is they are playing good balls on merit, but hitting anything loose. Out of that 25 boundaries, at least 20 are top quality drives & cuts.
 
Executioner said:
Riad is a bit of a joke in Tests. Always plays a rash shot and gets out. We have much better batsman than him. Batsman averaging 60+ in our domestics. I know international cricket is different but why have a batsman who sells his team down the drain
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Riyadh should be axed from test team. He is occupying a place.
 
My bad people, i completely ignored the rest of the thread title after 'New Z v Bangla..', thought the ODI's were still going!

Now on the flip side, it's pretty good going so far. Would have liked to see a ton by Tamim though
 
mominul haq is an exceptional talent I think should be their in Bangladesh odi team at number 3, don't know why Bangladesh keeps on dropping talents like nasir rubel and mominul
 
speedking said:
mominul haq is an exceptional talent I think should be their in Bangladesh odi team at number 3, don't know why Bangladesh keeps on dropping talents like nasir rubel and mominul
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Mominul isn't an ODI batsman
 
Bangladesh flopping in the formats in which it's most expected to perform and performing the best in the format which its least expected to..:shakib
 
Bd finished the first day well...at least better than Pak team...that should be considered as exceptional as they tour so little. Hope we can make at least 400 in the first innings tomorrow to remain in the match to win or draw. Hope mominul gets his hundread or double tomorrow. Other batsman should have to play big role,at least two big fifty or century. Finger crossed for tomorrow.
 
MMHS said:
If he focuses on Test only, he has about 15 years of Test career & as a specialist bat, he shouldn't miss many Test due to injury - about 7-8 Tests/Year, should take him to near 140 Tests; at present, he is scoring around 85 runs/Test; if I take a discount in both, he needs around 8.5K runs in about 115 Tests (75/Test), to reach around 10K. I think, if he is serious about it; he has a realistic chance; just like Azhar Ali has the chance to reach 10K.

Azhar won't reach there, because he is wasting his time for things that are not made for him, Momin might just do - he has better mentors to advice & better head to listen to that.
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7-8 tests are too many to arrange for Papon and co.They managed a mind boggling 2 tests last year.
 
GrandMaster said:
The confidence in their batting says it all. Imrul guy needs to be rested.
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Imrul is the best possible partner of Tamim available in Bangladesh.He is playing well too since last year. He is facing a very tough conditions for a subcontinent opener out there.
 
Executioner said:
He is not a test natural. He is a lazy batsman who only believes in flashy drives and zero intent to rotate the strike using deft hands. Someone like Williamson isn't as talented as Tamim say in LoIs but scores bucket loads of runs because he is a smart operator who knows what the situation demands.

Tbh our entire culture is such that we don't believe in greatness through hard work. Soumya and Taskin themselves are labelled as superstars when they haven't achieved Nothing whilst mominul has achieved more than these two combined but hardly has any following or endorsement.
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Smart operator!

Sounds Ramiz!:afridi1
 
Mainul said:
7-8 tests are too many to arrange for Papon and co.They managed a mind boggling 2 tests last year.
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Things will change - I am talking about 15 years period. There are 2.5 factors in it - performance, economy & market (which is partially function of the first 2). Popularity was never an issue in BD, with better performance, it'll increase & expand into deep rural areas as well. I think, quite easily anyone can see that BD has improve lot as a Cricket team. We are going through the last phase before becoming a competent Test side - it starts with taking Test matches to Day 5; then to compete in 2nd innings (the difference between teams in Test is the 2nd innings), then to do the same in away Tests; finally to win Test - first at home & then away. Now we are in the phase of competing away & winnings at home. Gradually that gap will be closed.

If you look at this game, for a Test match between BD in NZ - look at the title sponsors - Walton, Symphony, Hatil, Bellesimo, Rahim Steel ... these are BD companies & they are coming into Cricket. Add to that the largest conglomerates - Rahim Afroz, Abul Khair, PHP, Partex, Pran, Beximco, Squire, Incepta, Nasir, S Alam, Beacon ..... in 4/5 years time BD will play more Test than SRL & WI definitely, probably PAK & NZ as well - you can mark this post. The display that PAK gave in this ANZ tour & what SRL is doing in SAF or last year WI did in AUS - their name, reputation & past record won't make them automatic choices for Test series in future. Any neutral fan would love to see high lights this 58 overs of BD batting that PAK's entire NZ tour, this is just the start.
 
If BD can score 400, they are in with a chance to win. The Kiwi side is pretty ordinary.
 
Shafi said:
If this is bowling pitch than Bangladesh is really playing well
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Pitch is flat. Similar to the ones Pak got. A few do some mischief, but for the most part, I thought it's a pretty good batting wicket.
 
Shafi said:
If this is bowling pitch than Bangladesh is really playing well
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This is a fantastic Test wicket. It has something for everyone, even for spinners - I can tell you that Kiwis won't like to chase 200+ on day 5 against Sakib & Miraj here. Only players who won't like to play here are low back-lift grafter without any back-foot game & spinners who darts more than flighting it.
 
What we need is to reach 285/4 at 2nd ball & then go after. Losing last 6 in 20 overs is not a big deal as long as it brings close to 100. Most Asian teams often play too defensive against 2nd ball, which allows fielding Captain to set catching fielders & bowl attacking line - which will always result in a cluster of wickets. Even if we are all-out for 319, still it's a good score; 450 can be match winning. I am sure, Mushi'll enjoy his lunch more than Kane - this momentum has to be carried; couple of boundaries, I can tell that there'll be a 3rd man & sweeper out with new ball.
 
MMHS said:
This is a fantastic Test wicket. It has something for everyone, even for spinners - I can tell you that Kiwis won't like to chase 200+ on day 5 against Sakib & Miraj here. Only players who won't like to play here are low back-lift grafter without any back-foot game & spinners who darts more than flighting it.
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I cant see it taking much turn on day 5 really. It will flatten up and slow down like always.
 
Bang are going great here and the pitch will only get better for batting. They need to get 400+ here though not 300 odd. Nz will be looking at 500+ against a seam attack with 1 test wicket between them.
 
Space Cat said:
I cant see it taking much turn on day 5 really. It will flatten up and slow down like always.
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At Basin, if you can flight the ball against that wind, with the bounce, spinners can find their space. There should be some cracks from the left arm pacers' foot-mark for off spin line.
 
MMHS said:
What we need is to reach 285/4 at 2nd ball & then go after. Losing last 6 in 20 overs is not a big deal as long as it brings close to 100. Most Asian teams often play too defensive against 2nd ball, which allows fielding Captain to set catching fielders & bowl attacking line - which will always result in a cluster of wickets. Even if we are all-out for 319, still it's a good score; 450 can be match winning. I am sure, Mushi'll enjoy his lunch more than Kane - this momentum has to be carried; couple of boundaries, I can tell that there'll be a 3rd man & sweeper out with new ball.
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Exactly at the spot - 285/4, now need to be positive.
 
2 boundaries has pushed gully to sweeper, need to continue.
 
Yeah from this platform we need 400 to stay in the game and have a shot at drawing as our worst case scenario. Might rain on Day 4. One of Shakib or Mushfiq has to score a big ton with Sabbir also getting a 50 plus score.
 
New ball doings wonders.....for the batsmen :))

That ball hit the bails but Mushfiq survives, what luck
 
Space Cat said:
Bangladesh look a vastly superior batting team than pakistan so far.
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They do have stroke makers. Pakistan hardly has stroke makers. Run rate tells a story here when you compare how quickly BD scored and how quickly Pakistan scored.
 
Our batsmen should learn from Bangladesh how to play in green pitch. They have more potential than us in test as well in overseas and home condition.
 
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