Official Pakistan 2013 General Elections thread

[insaftak]

Jungle out there!

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[justarslan]

^^^

PTI...what has happened to you guys....longing for gundas, goons and thugs. What happened to Naya Pakistan

What's the update on the protests btw....

Police kicked out everyone in Karach from what i read on facebook.

 

[waqar_ahmad]

^ Come on Saadi, I'm sure I dont need to explain to you why it was wrong to unite with TuQ.

 

[insaftak]

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[waqar_ahmad]

Sad to see all these videos! Loook at the anger and disappointment on the faces of these people.

But no, let's accept these results, and be graceful losers

 

[akheR]

"agar ye elections free or fair nah howey, tu bohat khoon ho ga" - Imran Khan

Did he really say that ?

 

[akheR]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="fr"><p>@<a href="https://twitter.com/shahidmasooddr">shahidmasooddr</a> and Haroon ul Rasheed join us in Lahore Dharna Defence <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23LalikChowk">#LalikChowk</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23PTI">#PTI</a> tigers Zindabad <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23FajrTime">#FajrTime</a>- PTI leadershp where r u?</p>— Hassan Niazi (@HniaziISF) <a href="https://twitter.com/HniaziISF/status/333724169160241152">12 mai 2013</a></blockquote>
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[zimmz]

Did he really say that ?

Yes he said that but for rigging on large scale. Anyway the 'bloody' part is already happening in Karachi and yesterday in Pindi so Khan was right on the money. I think if there is an evident of rigging from all over Pakistan then soon these protests will grow. if it is only Lahore and Karachi then i dont think PTI will call for bloody protests all over pakistan.

 

[akheR]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="fr"><p>Dharna Lahore defence <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23LalikChowk">#LalikChowk</a> 5am - Junoon about to hit peak- @<a href="https://twitter.com/ptiofficial">ptiofficial</a> leadership WAKE UP.. Subha ho gayi hai <a href="http://t.co/36QKOxzu6V" title="http://twitter.com/HniaziISF/status/333735460016881664/photo/1">twitter.com/HniaziISF/stat…</a></p>— Hassan Niazi (@HniaziISF) <a href="https://twitter.com/HniaziISF/status/333735460016881664">13 mai 2013</a></blockquote>
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[asifp]

Love the jazba but as I said yesetday PTI is one man party.

SMQ and Hashmi dont' care about the youth or naya Pakistan.

IK's biggest mistake was not to empower his grass root people. Guys like Arif Alvi who have been with him, those are the true PTI leaders and need to be given senior position.

 

[waqar_ahmad]

^ Imran did not give these party positions. Everyone was elected.

 

[Waseem]

WOW some of the videos and stories i have been reading are crazy.

I wanted to move on and forget about minor incidents as it's part of package but this is just insane.

Apparently Ch Nisar ordered the votes to be counted 7-8 times until he got the desired results?

Imran Khan in NA 122 was also leading and then suddenly updates stopped coming, Ayaz Sadiq declared winner in the morning.

Saad Rafiq who i had great respect for turned out to be biggest cheat of them all.......

Less said about Altaf the traitor the better..

 

[Afzal_K]

So with Nawaz bhai, naya pakistan or gaya pakistan. Imran Sher Khan should have won

 

[Waseem]

I don't know if this is authentic, can't find actual article

 

[the Great Khan]

well there some very strange results e.g. the mysterious zero votes for opponents of the MQm, tareen winning voernight then losing in the morning..

but I just have to say to fellow PTI supporters. Wake up and smell the coffee. You have been naive. this is how business gets done in pakistani elections!

the PMLN are some of the biggest ghundas in punjab. Do you really think they would have let the PTI get a sniff?

the best thing to do now is protest for a short period, see if anything can be done in the courts but overall concentrate on KP and then use it in punjab. Re-election campaign starts today!

 

[the Great Khan]

So with Nawaz bhai, naya pakistan or gaya pakistan. Imran Sher Khan should have won

same old pakistan..with some new buses.

 

[Zarrar]

well there some very strange results e.g. the mysterious zero votes for opponents of the MQm, tareen winning voernight then losing in the morning..

but I just have to say to fellow PTI supporters. Wake up and smell the coffee. You have been naive. this is how business gets done in pakistani elections!

the PMLN are some of the biggest ghundas in punjab. Do you really think they would have let the PTI get a sniff?

the best thing to do now is protest for a short period, see if anything can be done in the courts but overall concentrate on KP and then use it in punjab. Re-election campaign starts today!

No unless you can match the terrorism of the likes of MQM and PMLN to an extent there is no use...

MQM has yet again proven why they are the biggest terrorist org in South Asia if not the world...and people are acting surprised thinking this is the first time MQM has acted like terrorists...our esteemed neutral, progressive and idealistic Pakistanis go out of their way to hype Taliban threat and give a free pass to MQM, these include many PTI supporters as well, they all need to wake up and unequivocally condemn MQM and call for its ban just like all other "kaladam tenzeemaiN'...

PTI and their aligned parties need to dabble with some ghunda gardi otherwise they will always be pushed aside by the likes of MQM who are akin to Kufar-e-Makkah...PTI needs to raise a lashkar of 10,000 and rise again from Medina to take Makkah over...again this is allegorically speaking..

 

[oyei]

Musharaf should have made sure NS never returned to Pakistan, probably the biggest mistake to let this blood sucker back in Pakistan.

 

[waqar_ahmad]

the best thing to do now is protest for a short period, see if anything can be done in the courts but overall concentrate on KP and then use it in punjab. Re-election campaign starts today!

So you think PMLN wont rig the elections again? No matter how bad their performance is, they will rig the elections again. PTI has no chance, unless PTI leadership leads massive protests.

 

[Pak-Legend]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The election results have established the truth of every word we said on 23 Dec& during the Long March.<a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TuQwasRight">#TuQwasRight</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Rigging">#Rigging</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23PakVotes">#PakVotes</a></p>— Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri (@TahirulQadri) <a href="https://twitter.com/TahirulQadri/status/333486446667255808">May 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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#PuranaPakistan

 

[Zarrar]

Musharaf should have made sure NS never returned to Pakistan, probably the biggest mistake to let this blood sucker back in Pakistan.

Ab itna bhi nahi...

Nobody can top PPP/MQM dream team's blood sucking over last 5 years...and these was Mush's second an third biggest mistakes, i.e. letting Zardari back in and resurrecting MQM, of course selling Pakistan to America's war of terror being the biggest...

 

[Zarrar]

So you think PMLN wont rig the elections again? No matter how bad their performance is, they will rig the elections again. PTI has no chance, unless PTI leadership leads massive protests.

Yes this is it, it's now or never...especially in Karachi, if MQM is not challenged now, it will be a curse on Karachi till qayamat...

 

[Black Zero]

I don't know if this is authentic, can't find actual article

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he writes for Express and nothing there..

 

[insaftak]

PTI has swept Rawalpindi and even won NA52 and even right now Chori Nisar is busy changing results there

 

[Anfield]

Insaftak tum kahan say newz lekar atay ho/ tumnay waleed Iqbalaur Hammad Azam ko bhee jitwa dya tha harnay kay baad lahore say and they both lost as per announced. lol

 

[insaftak]

Insaftak tum kahan say newz lekar atay ho/ tumnay waleed Iqbalaur Hammad Azam ko bhee jitwa dya tha harnay kay baad lahore say and they both lost as per announced. lol

I quoted dawn news and Aaj News for Waleed Iqbal. Didn't say anything about Hammad Azhar

 

[PakPrince]

So turns out..

The 40 polling stations in NA 250 where there will be re-elections are mostly the ones where the MQM lost!!

GOD I am so angry!!!! Shahra-e-faisal tonight!!send all your karachi friends to the protest!

 

[waqar_ahmad]

PTI has swept Rawalpindi and even won NA52 and even right now Chori Nisar is busy changing results there

Yaar, PTI would have swept punjab, You know I was on the sweep bandwagon, and now you can see that if PTI can win pindi, they could have swept other areas of punjab easily.

I'm telling you, Imran did one hell of a campaign. People were voting for balla, not for candidate. Imran achieved every objective that he had set out to achieve. But lost in the end coz of rigging.

Protest, street power, or else PTI will never come to power

 

[PakPrince]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>The election results have established the truth of every word we said on 23 Dec& during the Long March.<a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23TuQwasRight">#TuQwasRight</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23Rigging">#Rigging</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23PakVotes">#PakVotes</a></p>— Dr Tahir-ul-Qadri (@TahirulQadri) <a href="https://twitter.com/TahirulQadri/status/333486446667255808">May 12, 2013</a></blockquote>
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#PuranaPakistan

Abay tu ne government se deal kyun ki thi phir mullah!

 

[PakPrince]

Yaar, PTI would have swept punjab, You know I was on the sweep bandwagon, and now you can see that if PTI can win pindi, they could have swept other areas of punjab easily.

I'm telling you, Imran did one hell of a campaign. People were voting for balla, not for candidate. Imran achieved every objective that he had set out to achieve. But lost in the end coz of rigging.

Protest, street power, or else PTI will never come to power

You are right. Waiting for 5 years and then going into elections again will result into the same thing and PPP will come back then.. They have turns

Revolutions dont usually come through the ballot. They come through overthrow of governments

 

[wasim-fan]

So it's inqalab all over again.

 

[waqar_ahmad]

You are right. Waiting for 5 years and then going into elections again will result into the same thing and PPP will come back then.. They have turns

Revolutions dont usually come through the ballot. They come through overthrow of governments

absolutely. And now I am quite sure that besides sweeping punjab, PTI would have dented MQM in karachi as well.

Status quo will never let us win. Those telling us to accept the results, build KP as a model province and wait for another elections are fools, with same lazy instincts that are hallmark of pakistanis

 

[sarmadsl]

Pmkn rigged in about 30 to 40 seats in large cities of Punjab and where thhe margin was a bit small.............we could not believe that how PTI lost because logically i give one example
In My constituency NA 107 PMLN are bound to win and every body knew about that.....in 2008 PMLN candidate got 76K and won by 5K lead and then again in Dec 2012 by elections PMLN candidate again won and got 104K and lead by 30K..........now just after 4 months of bye election one one could think of PMLN losing....PTI had a week candidate...he also contested in 2008 as MPA as independent and got 11K votes and hios personal vote is around 15-16K..every one predicted that he will get around 30K votes because of PTI factor but in the end he got 60K votes and secured 2nd position..while PMLN took 92K votes....this 45K vote was of PTI ideological vote...so in this area of Bradris..PTI has got such amount of large vote bank..how van PTI lost in big cities....
very alarming question..................AND even PMLN have not that much of vote bank..they won because of strong candidates....i knew in my area that 60-70 youth voted for PTI...

 

[PakPrince]

absolutely. And now I am quite sure that besides sweeping punjab, PTI would have dented MQM in karachi as well.

very true

honestly the support for IK in NA 250 and 253 was unbelievable.

my friends from high school all went. my parents and siblings went and my dad who is a life long mqm supporter voted for PTI. my cousins from defence who are top of the echelons of the so-called 'burger class' went at 8 in the morning.. my best friend took his 88 year old grandmother. all voted PTI

if this wasnt tabdeeli ka nishaan then i dont know what is

 

[Buffet]

It could do.
Under a 1st pass the post system, even if only two parties were contesting all the seats, one party can win the vast majority of directly elected seats even though it gets less than 30% to 40% of the vote.

As an example, out of the 274 directly elected seats, say party A won 160 seats, each by a margin of 1,000, but Party B won the remaining 114 seats each by a margin of 40,000, then at a national level Party A will have 46 more seats but 4,400,000 less votes than party B, and thus a comfortable ruling majority of seats but far less votes.

If we now include the 70 women and minorities allocated seats, the situation changes again, as Party B will get the majority of the 70 allocated seats, thereby possibly giving them an overall majority.

In a multi-party system, with 3 or more big parties, the situation is even more complicted. In the UK under the 1st pass the post system, in the last 30 years both the Conservative and Labour govts. have had very large majorities but less than 40% of the votes and Liberals have sometimes had more than 25% of the vote but only 3% or 4% of the seats.

May be some one can clarify here. Javelin is suggesting that reserved seats are allocated based on popular votes.

I see following explanation,

After the results for the general seats are finalized, reserved women’s seats are distributed to parties in proportion to the number of general seats secured in each of the provinces. Non-Muslim seats are allocated to political parties in proportion to the overall number of general seats secured.

http://www.ifes.org/Content/Publica...eet - National Assembly d12 2013-03-25 en.pdf

If reserved seats are allocated based on how many seats each party has won then it seems popular vote is a non-factor. Basically, reserved seats are non-factor as well for a party securing the majority because every party is going to get same proportion of reserved seats.

Am I missing something here? Javeline explanation seems to suggest that popular vote was a factor.

 

[PakPrince]

May be some one can clarify here. Javelin is suggesting that reserved seats are allocated based on popular votes.

I see following explanation,

After the results for the general seats are finalized, reserved women’s seats are distributed to parties in proportion to the number of general seats secured in each of the provinces. Non-Muslim seats are allocated to political parties in proportion to the overall number of general seats secured.

http://www.ifes.org/Content/Publica...eet - National Assembly d12 2013-03-25 en.pdf

If reserved seats are allocated based on how many seats each party has won then it seems popular vote is a non-factor. Basically, reserved seats are non-factor as well because every party is going to get same proportion of reserved seats.

Am I missing something here because Javeline explanation seems to suggest that popular vote was a factor.

its in proportion of national assembly seats..

That is if you have 30% seats in NA, you will get around 30% reserved seats.
They serve no purpose except put in few token women and/or people into the assembly who wouldnt have normally won

 

[saadibaba]

well there some very strange results e.g. the mysterious zero votes for opponents of the MQm, tareen winning voernight then losing in the morning..

but I just have to say to fellow PTI supporters. Wake up and smell the coffee. You have been naive. this is how business gets done in pakistani elections!

the PMLN are some of the biggest ghundas in punjab. Do you really think they would have let the PTI get a sniff?

the best thing to do now is protest for a short period, see if anything can be done in the courts but overall concentrate on KP and then use it in punjab. Re-election campaign starts today!

Totally agree.

 

[Buffet]

its in proportion of national assembly seats..

That is if you have 30% seats in NA, you will get around 30% reserved seats.
They serve no purpose except put in few token women and/or people into the assembly who wouldnt have normally won

So for all practical purposes, reserved seats are irrelevant when it comes to any specific party trying to gain majority to form a government. If a party gets majority in actually contested seats then same party is going to get majority after including reserved seats as well. That was my original understanding but Javeline suggested that reserved seats could be a factor in formation of government.

 

[PakPrince]

So for all practical purposes, reserved seats are irrelevant when it comes to any specific party trying to gain majority to form government. That was my original understanding but Javeline suggested that reserved seats could be a factor in formation of government.

yup... if it were distributed any other way it would be absolutely unconstituitional and undemocratic.

they give represntation to women and minorities who have lesser chances of getting elected normally

 

[Buffet]

yup... if it were distributed any other way it would be absolutely unconstituitional and undemocratic.

they give represntation to women and minorities who have lesser chances of getting elected normally

I think this will result in mostly figureheads getting appointed. May be less percentage but simply ensuring that every party has to have certain percentage of minorities/women as candidate will result in minorities/women getting elected by actually fighting elections and not only be figure head in parliament.

 

[Looney]

Votes found in the trash can

 

[Square Drive]

its in proportion of national assembly seats..

That is if you have 30% seats in NA, you will get around 30% reserved seats.
They serve no purpose except put in few token women and/or people into the assembly who wouldnt have normally won

Off-topic, but mate, please check out the Lightning Hawks CC team thread. Thanks a ton.

 

[Badsha]

very true

honestly the support for IK in NA 250 and 253 was unbelievable.

my friends from high school all went. my parents and siblings went and my dad who is a life long mqm supporter voted for PTI. my cousins from defence who are top of the echelons of the so-called 'burger class' went at 8 in the morning.. my best friend took his 88 year old grandmother. all voted PTI

if this wasnt tabdeeli ka nishaan then i dont know what is

Yaar if PTI could've gotten at least 2 seats from Karachi I'd be so happy


For the first (or long ) time we'd be seeing a national party and not an ethnic one like mqm anp or ppp

 

[Badsha]

I'm hearing Hina Manzoor might (PTI) might win from Pindi?!

 

[Looney]

Yaar if PTI could've gotten at least 2 seats from Karachi I'd be so happy


For the first (or long ) time we'd be seeing a national party and not an ethnic one like mqm anp or ppp

ppp is the only national party . what is wrong with you .

 

[UP]

If elections weren't rigged - PTI would have swept all over Pakistan. If not all over Pakistan at least in the cities.

 

[Badsha]

As it stands, making the government in KpK will be tough. We'll need to join forces with some other party.

 

[arsalan660]

According to Gallup Pakistan:

Youth of High Society (rich families) voted for PTI other than than Youth of Middle class and lower class voted for PMLN.

 

[arsalan660]

If elections weren't rigged - PTI would have swept all over Pakistan. If not all over Pakistan at least in the cities.

Be realistic now atleast, If no rigging happened PTI would have won 50-60 as compared to 34. They were never in position of sweeping in elections.

 

[UP]

Be realistic now atleast, If no rigging happened PTI would have won 50-60 as compared to 34. They were never in position of sweeping in elections.

Please elaborate...

 

[wasim-fan]

Be realistic now atleast, If no rigging happened PTI would have won 50-60 as compared to 34. They were never in position of sweeping in elections.

This

 

[wasim-fan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShZwYrDZyDo

Nissar nails it..

 

[Square Drive]

As it stands, making the government in KpK will be tough. We'll need to join forces with some other party.

Yes, we should join forces with JI.

 

[hamzie]

cant we make up the numbers by getting some independent candidates

 

[saadibaba]

absolutely. And now I am quite sure that besides sweeping punjab, PTI would have dented MQM in karachi as well.

Status quo will never let us win. Those telling us to accept the results, build KP as a model province and wait for another elections are fools, with same lazy instincts that are hallmark of pakistanis

Same way status quo let PPP win after BB came back to Pakistan post Zia's death. Same way it let PPP win again after Nawaz's first term. Same way it let PTI win KP. Same way Shafqat Mehmood won from Lahore and IK won 3 out of 4 seats. PTI was never going to sweep, even insaftak the most enthusiastic supporter of PTI on this forum was sceptical about it. And lazy instincts are of those who instead of smelling the coffee want to live out their frustrations by inciting people in Pakistan to come out and protest while they sit comfortably in front of their laptops pretending to be the next coming of Che Guevara.

 

[saeedhk]

ECP is useless.

 

[Friend786]

Votes found in the trash can

i feel so sad.

 

[Friend786]

ECP is useless.

this is an understatement.

 

[insaftak]

Same way status quo let PPP win after BB came back to Pakistan post Zia's death. Same way it let PPP win again after Nawaz's first term. Same way it let PTI win KP. Same way Shafqat Mehmood won from Lahore and IK won 3 out of 4 seats. PTI was never going to sweep, even insaftak the most enthusiastic supporter of PTI on this forum was sceptical about it. And lazy instincts are of those who instead of smelling the coffee want to live out their frustrations by inciting people in Pakistan to come out and protest while they sit comfortably in front of their laptops pretending to be the next coming of Che Guevara.

My estimate had seats from Attock, Vehari, Kasur, Faisalabad, Gujranawala, Sialkot, Jhang, Toba Tek Singh and few seats from karachi. They even took away JKT seat from lodhran.

Blatant rigging, they have stolen our mandate big time.

 

[Runner Up]

Can anyone tell what was the use of Thumb Impression?

 

[hamzie]

Can anyone tell what was the use of Thumb Impression?

To make people feel and believe they had a say in the elections

 

[wasim-fan]

My estimate had seats from Attock, Vehari, Kasur, Faisalabad, Gujranawala, Sialkot, Jhang, Toba Tek Singh and few seats from karachi. They even took away JKT seat from lodhran.

Blatant rigging, they have stolen our mandate big time.

So what is final tally a per your calculations for PTI

 

[Artless Dodges]

Without any kind of emotional bias, How many more seats should have PTI and where would they come from?

 

[saadibaba]

My estimate had seats from Attock, Vehari, Kasur, Faisalabad, Gujranawala, Sialkot, Jhang, Toba Tek Singh and few seats from karachi. They even took away JKT seat from lodhran.

Blatant rigging, they have stolen our mandate big time.

So 10-15 more seats......wouldn't have changed a thing.

 

[insaftak]

So what is final tally a per your calculations for PTI

Without any kind of emotional bias, How many more seats should have PTI and where would they come from?

I said with no tsunami we should be at 55-60 seats and right now we are at 26. all the cities I mentioned had strong candidates not your brand new faces.

 

[PakPrince]

British Pakistanis, Get off the internet and put yourself to some use.

MASS APPEAL TO THE PAKISTANIS IN UK:
People in Pakistan, Karachi are fighting for their rights by facing directly threats, they have stood up against the terrorist MQM Mafia.

Altaf Hussain gave direct threats on TV channels that MQM will kill the peaceful protesters if they do not leave the protest. He also talked about separating Karachi from Pakistan.

Dear People in UK - now it is your responsibility to start a legal process against this criminal Altaf Hussain. Call your local police office and file a report against him for openly threatening Pakistani citizens. Write letters, emails and make phone calls to your local MPs in UK to register your protest and expose the criminal Altaf Hussain.

MQM has done massive rigging in Karachi elections by using their terror tactics but the people of Karachi have rejected MQM and Altaf Hussain. Their time is ending soon the people of Karachi will decide their future and not some terrorist living in UK.

 

[insaftak]

So 10-15 more seats......wouldn't have changed a thing.

The impact is huge. we could lose the leader of opposition position in center and in KPK we might even lose government.

It' is disgraceful that Insaf Students Federation is protesting on streets and top leadership of PTI is not saying anything on it.

 

[hamzie]

PTI MQM arguing on geo :/

 

[PakPrince]

The impact is huge. we could lose the leader of opposition position in center and in KPK we might even lose government.

It' is disgraceful that Insaf Students Federation is protesting on streets and top leadership of PTI is not saying anything on it.

there was not a single leader in Teen talkwar karachi last night

hopefully someone shows up in sharae faisal tonight to charge up the crowd

 

[saadibaba]

The impact is huge. we could lose the leader of opposition position in center and in KPK we might even lose government.

It' is disgraceful that Insaf Students Federation is protesting on streets and top leadership of PTI is not saying anything on it.

Leader of opposition ban ke waise bhi kiya gul khailana tha, PML-N got a clear majority, unlike last govt. dependent on coalitions. KP main JI se iteehad karo, your mandate should not be overtaken.

 

[Runner Up]

To make people feel and believe they had a say in the elections

NADRA has record, should scan and check all the thumbs.

 

[saadibaba]

there was not a single leader in Teen talkwar karachi last night

hopefully someone shows up in sharae faisal tonight to charge up the crowd

Like who, Arif Alvi.....he should go back to dentistry.

 

[insaftak]

Leader of opposition ban ke waise bhi kiya gul khailana tha, PML-N got a clear majority, unlike last govt. dependent on coalitions. KP main JI se iteehad karo, your mandate should not be overtaken.

O bahi leader of opposition automatically becomes chairman of the public account committee. you are not aware of how the system works. Who would you have for PAC, Imran Khan or a PPP's man

 

[insaftak]

there was not a single leader in Teen talkwar karachi last night

hopefully someone shows up in sharae faisal tonight to charge up the crowd

ISF is organizing protests all over the country. Soon top leadership will be forced to listen to supporters and go with an aggressive position. I am hearing about protests in Islamabad, Peshawar, Lahore, Gujranwala, Faisalabad, Multan and Muzafargarh.

 

[saadibaba]

O bahi leader of opposition automatically becomes chairman of the public account committee. you are not aware of how the system works. Who would you have for PAC, Imran Khan or a PPP's man

Itna hi shook hai tu jao ja ke sab minority parties se iteehad karo...ECP main jao...SC main jao....CJ ko bolo sumo moto le.

 

[saadibaba]

Azaad adliya kahan gae ?

 

[insaftak]

^^

LOL or go with street agitation. We are being robbed in NA 54 Rawalpindi too

 

[Afzal_K]

humour time, my cousin nephew who was bombarded with election news, suddenly asked
what happened to tahreefe-e-insaaan team - it was so inncoent but considering what happened, he used nice words

 

[saadibaba]

IK said himself he believes the courts are independent now. He agreed on ECP, he agreed to care taker govt. With what face will he now say I don't believe in anything anymore and want street style revolution.

 

[saadibaba]

Was watching Bolta Pakistan...Mushtaq Minhas urf Uncle Sargam called IK Dilip Kumar many times for acting from his hospital bed....shame on him.