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Pakistan v England | 3rd ODI | Sharjah | Nov 17, 2015 | Pakistan innings

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Who is the groundsman? This is the worst type of ground to play exciting cricket - small boundary with dead slow out-field, played on a sluggish surface - almost forcing batsmen to lofted slog. This is one of the main reason I feel IND-PAK match in IND is so exciting than UAE.
 
HuzaifaE said:
Go and fetch Inzi to deal with the short balls. Babar is very good against pace and lightyears ahead of our typical standards.
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Yup saw the light years difference in Babar today :)) , you do understand that we are playing in Sharjah and he got out to a fast bowler to a short ball :facepalm: This is probably the slowest wicket we are playing on this whole series and ironically the bowler bowling wasn't even remotely express.

If this is what we are banking on for 2016 then GOOD LUCK TO US !!!!!
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Youngsta Beauty Gone :facepalm: and this guy was supposed to be our best bat against pace :( along with Haris and Chota Akmal according to some PPers

Good luck for 2016 guys, we'll get peppered with bouncers and these blokes CAN'T play it to save their lives....
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Still is one of our best against pace. Was an unfortunate dismissal, it was there to hit, but that ball was quicker than the others, so it got big on him.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Yup saw the light years difference in Babar today :)) , you do understand that we are playing in Sharjah and he got out to a fast bowler to a short ball :facepalm: This is probably the slowest wicket we are playing on this whole series and ironically the bowler bowling wasn't even remotely express.

If this is what we are banking on for 2016 then GOOD LUCK TO US !!!!!
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Yes let's give up and sit in a corner and cry. :sree
 
Azhar has looked so bad since the Zimbabwe series. Needs to pull things back together. Looking all over the place right now, no balance, and his head is going all over the place.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Still is one of our best against pace. Was an unfortunate dismissal, it was there to hit, but that ball was quicker than the others, so it got big on him.
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I understand that he is better than others but to boast like he is the second coming of Viv, by some PPers especially, is the thing that ticks me the most. There is almost so much hype about our players coming out of the ranks that it seems they will suddenly set the world on fire with their skills. Although the truth would be that they blokes are decent, not world class by any means and outperform the previous lot preceding them.

Nothing more nothing less
 
Pakistan's Game Plan :azhar

After 20 overs: 90/2 (RR in first 20 overs 4.5 RPO)
After 30: 140/3 (RR in overs 20-30 overs 5 RPO)
After 40: 200/5 (RR in overs 30-40 overs 6 RPO)
After 50: 280ish (RR in overs 40-50 overs 8ish RPO)

Over all innings run rate 5.6ish.

#Aggression :afridi :akhtar

I can see that being the plan anyway - whether it is executed or not - time will tell. A 280 target will make this game very interesting :irfan
 
aliasad1998 said:
Lol [MENTION=136079]ahmedwaqas92[/MENTION] is just a knee jerk wrist slitter. Forget it
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so being realistic and rational suddenly makes me a knee jerk wrist slitter

The bubble is real :14: reality will hit you guys come summer 2016.
 
TalhaSyed said:
Pakistan's Game Plan :azhar

After 20 overs: 90/2 (RR in first 20 overs 4.5 RPO)
After 30: 140/3 (RR in overs 20-30 overs 5 RPO)
After 40: 200/5 (RR in overs 30-40 overs 6 RPO)
After 50: 280ish (RR in overs 40-50 overs 8ish RPO)

Over all innings run rate 5.6ish.

#Aggression :afridi :akhtar

I can see that being the plan anyway - whether it is executed or not - time will tell. A 280 target will make this game very interesting :irfan
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Finishing with 8 per over will be extremely difficult with 5 outside the ring, teams need to get going between 30-40. Can't rely on the final 10.
 
TalhaSyed said:
Pakistan's Game Plan :azhar

After 20 overs: 90/2 (RR in first 20 overs 4.5 RPO)
After 30: 140/3 (RR in overs 20-30 overs 5 RPO)
After 40: 200/5 (RR in overs 30-40 overs 6 RPO)
After 50: 280ish (RR in overs 40-50 overs 8ish RPO)

Over all innings run rate 5.6ish.

#Aggression :afridi :akhtar

I can see that being the plan anyway - whether it is executed or not - time will tell. A 280 target will make this game very interesting :irfan
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This was our Modern ODI batting plan post 2015 WC.

#Aggression
 
hussain.r97 said:
Finishing with 8 per over will be extremely difficult with 5 outside the ring, teams need to get going between 30-40. Can't rely on the final 10.
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Yea thats why I played it safe and went for "8ish" ;)

That - in my mind - means anywhere from 6 to 10 RPO in the last 10 ;) haha

The outfield isn't too rapid here and Sharjah is a good sized ground. With that in mind I think 250-280 should be the minimum target we should aim to set. 280-300 would be a very good score. 300+ - pack up your bags and go home :inzi
 
TalhaSyed said:
Pakistan's Game Plan :azhar

After 20 overs: 90/2 (RR in first 20 overs 4.5 RPO)
After 30: 140/3 (RR in overs 20-30 overs 5 RPO)
After 40: 200/5 (RR in overs 30-40 overs 6 RPO)
After 50: 280ish (RR in overs 40-50 overs 8ish RPO)

Over all innings run rate 5.6ish.

#Aggression :afridi :akhtar

I can see that being the plan anyway - whether it is executed or not - time will tell. A 280 target will make this game very interesting :irfan
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That's workable if you are batting first. But, think about chasing - even 260 target means 120 in last 20 overs with 3 down. That's the main reason PAK struggles so much in chase.

I think, 240 'll make today's game very interesting - these are the 2 most obsolete ODI team; still stuck in 80s-90s.
 
Adil is experiencing the difference between bowling with 284 at hand & already 4 down for 40, vs bowling against 2 good spin players, setting the target.
 
TalhaSyed said:
Yea thats why I played it safe and went for "8ish" ;)

That - in my mind - means anywhere from 6 to 10 RPO in the last 10 ;) haha

The outfield isn't too rapid here and Sharjah is a good sized ground. With that in mind I think 250-280 should be the minimum target we should aim to set. 280-300 would be a very good score. 300+ - pack up your bags and go home :inzi
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Definitely at least 280. This is a surface where you can trust the bounce and play through the line. Even with a slow outfield, England have some powerful players.
 
MMHS said:
That's workable if you are batting first. But, think about chasing - even 260 target means 120 in last 20 overs with 3 down. That's the main reason PAK struggles so much in chase.

I think, 240 'll make today's game very interesting - these are the 2 most obsolete ODI team; still stuck in 80s-90s.
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Yup - batting 2nd is a whole different ball game & a different type of aggression :afridi 2

Yea I think 250-280 should be the minimum that Pakistan should aim for here. Anything 280+ InshAllah will put Pakistan in a strong position.

ahmedwaqas92 said:
This was our Modern ODI batting plan post 2015 WC.

#Aggression
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If it produces the results - I actually dont mind - and I think today here if Pakistan can do the above, it will produce a good result for Pakistan InshAllah
 
#GreenRoars said:
Ifti is a good hitter btw.
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Not good enough for International cricket. The guy has no concept of strike rotation. Plus he has a horrid technique and cant play the short ball.

Awais Zia smashes them around the park at Pindi stadium as well. Doesnt make him good now, does it?
 
BIG improvement from Azhar - from 24 (46) to 29 (47)................ at this rate by 2020, he should reach 50 (50) level.
 
TalhaSyed said:
If it produces the results - I actually dont mind - and I think today here if Pakistan can do the above, it will produce a good result for Pakistan InshAllah
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The problem is not whether it will produce the result or not, the real question my friend is....whether we can do the above on a consistent basis. Because trust me when I say this. No matter who the opposition is and no matter where in the world we are playing, barring India, 280ish score with our bowling will be defended most often than not.
 
Azhar is rotating strike every ball. The reason for his low strike rate rn is hes out of form in all formats. He already has a higher career strike rate than selfie
 
Arsal_AK said:
Not good enough for International cricket. The guy has no concept of strike rotation. Plus he has a horrid technique and cant play the short ball.

Awais Zia smashes them around the park at Pindi stadium as well. Doesnt make him good now, does it?
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Do you want strike rotation technique at number 7?
 
MMHS said:
BIG improvement from Azhar - from 24 (46) to 29 (47)................ at this rate by 2020, he should reach 50 (50) level.
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Cmon mmhs. Since the slow start hes rotating strike every ball. Hes woefully out of form
 
I'm happy we can be dissapointed with the strike rate of an opener now. So much better than having someone like that waltz in that number 5 or 6
 
I dont know how much Rashid gifted us this series but he is generous.
 
Azhar also rotating the strike well now.

Needs a one or two fours to increase his strike-rate.
 
Arsal_AK said:
Not good enough for International cricket. The guy has no concept of strike rotation. Plus he has a horrid technique and cant play the short ball.

Awais Zia smashes them around the park at Pindi stadium as well. Doesnt make him good now, does it?
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Iftikhar is a lower order batsman in ODIs! And when it comes to hitting fast bowling, he is better than Awais Zia! He is the best hitter of fast bowling in the current line up! He will be more useful down the order and in the death overs!
 
Hope MoHa bhai isn't playing with a dose of steroid. He is the King of UAE.
 
aliasad1998 said:
Funny i said the same yesterday
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#GreenRoars said:
Haha yep, Ifti will play at 6-7
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It makes sense, because Sarfraz is our best player of spin, so playing him at #4, means he gets maximum exposure to the spinners. Iftikhar hit some good blows in the domestic T20 cup so he'll be suited for No. 7 spot and anyway he'll be replaced by Imad Wasim when fit.

The dilemma however will be to fit Babar, Haris and Hafeez in the XI with Sarfraz playing at 4. Unless Imad plays at 8, I don't think that's possible.
 
hussain.r97 said:
Definitely at least 280. This is a surface where you can trust the bounce and play through the line. Even with a slow outfield, England have some powerful players.
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I'm not sure if batting 2nd will be too easy. Im gonna check the recent 2nd innings scores in Sharjah:

NZ 217 (Lost by 147 runs)
NZ 255 (Won by 4 wickets)
Pak 162 (Lost by 93 runs)
SL 213 (Lost by 113 runs)
SL 313 (Lost by 11 runs)
Pak 151 (Lost by 117 runs)
Pak 182 (Lost by 1 runs)

It's hard to determine a good 2nd innings score from that sample - however, in general it looks like - but 2nd & lose :msd
 
Ahson8 said:
It makes sense, because Sarfraz is our best player of spin, so playing him at #4, means he gets maximum exposure to the spinners. Iftikhar hit some good blows in the domestic T20 cup so he'll be suited for No. 7 spot and anyway he'll be replaced by Imad Wasim when fit.

The dilemma however will be to fit Babar, Haris and Hafeez in the XI with Sarfraz playing at 4. Unless Imad plays at 8, I don't think that's possible.
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Imad playing at 8 is perfect - we need a long tail
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
The problem is not whether it will produce the result or not, the real question my friend is....whether we can do the above on a consistent basis. Because trust me when I say this. No matter who the opposition is and no matter where in the world we are playing, barring India, 280ish score with our bowling will be defended most often than not.
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Yup - having a plan is great - but you need to execute it or it means nothing.
 
Arsal_AK said:
Not good enough for International cricket. The guy has no concept of strike rotation. Plus he has a horrid technique and cant play the short ball.

Awais Zia smashes them around the park at Pindi stadium as well. Doesnt make him good now, does it?
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By the way you just cant write off a player after one game! He was immensely under pressure as it was his debut game! Lets see what he can do today as there wont be much pressure! So he may rotate the strike well this time!
 
TalhaSyed said:
I'm not sure if batting 2nd will be too easy. Im gonna check the recent 2nd innings scores in Sharjah:

NZ 217 (Lost by 147 runs)
NZ 255 (Won by 4 wickets)
Pak 162 (Lost by 93 runs)
SL 213 (Lost by 113 runs)
SL 313 (Lost by 11 runs)
Pak 151 (Lost by 117 runs)
Pak 182 (Lost by 1 runs)

It's hard to determine a good 2nd innings score from that sample - however, in general it looks like - but 2nd & lose :msd
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The thing is that we don't have anyone who can swing the ball under the lights. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Maybe 250 plus be enough.
 
Hafeez almost up to Azhars score already! its shameful to see such slow scoring from the captain, just adds pressure to batsmen at other end.
 
Pakistan need to go after england spinners and force them to use a 6th bowler.
 
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