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Pakistan v England | 3rd Test | Sharjah | Nov 1-5, 2015 | Day 3

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Malik is the worst option right now considering how comfortable they are against the spin.
Pacers look ordinary, too.
Safe to say this is the worst bowling attack in a long, long time.
 
Game seems to be slipping away.

Worst thing is that they are scoring at decent rate too
 
Nothing ever good happens when you see Pakistan's energy level so low.
When they are on a roll, one can almost sense it but today is not the day, I guess,
 
JibranAnsari said:
Wahab looks overcoached , lacking his natural aggression or probably has lost his rhythm.
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It's tough on the man, trying to bowl fast on these puddings. He may well have won the series for Pakistan already.
 
The cricket enthusiast said:
Well you never leave a chance to bang wahab ..
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I was actually amongst the few who backed him when he was deemed rubbish on this forum 2-3 years ago, but now suddenly he has become a world class fast bowler. We always love to deal in extremes.

Matter of fact is that he is good but lacks the extra bit of skill and ability to be considered in the top class bracket, and if he is your best fast bowler than it says a lot about your resources.

Not bashing him here though, just stating the obvious. He has been the worst bowler on show in this Test after Babar.
 
Mamoon said:
I was actually amongst the few who backed him when he was deemed rubbish on this forum 2-3 years ago, but now suddenly he has become a world class fast bowler. We always love to deal in extremes.

Matter of fact is that he is good but lacks the extra bit of skill and ability to be considered in the top class bracket, and if he is your best fast bowler than it says a lot about your resources.

Not bashing him here though, just stating the obvious. He has been the worst bowler on show in this Test after Babar.
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Agreed.
And it seems like he is still determined on wasting his energy on bouncing out the batsmen rather than bowling good-length deliveries.
That Watson spell has done him more harm than good, tbh.
 
Robert said:
It's tough on the man, trying to bowl fast on these puddings. He may well have won the series for Pakistan already.
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That's what he is supposed to do , he can't do much with the new ball. He is in the team for his aggressive fast bowling. But yeah , he has done well on these tracks.
 
a lead of 50 was about parity, anything more than this now is advantage england. england have just looked slightly better with the bat.
 
So useless part-timer Malik has only one wicket less than specialist Babar even though he has bowled around 100 overs less.
 
JibranAnsari said:
That's what he is supposed to do , he can't do much with the new ball. He is in the team for his aggressive fast bowling. But yeah , he has done well on these tracks.
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He did create a chance at short leg but it wasn't there. Misbah sahab were trying to save runs.
 
At best Eng can stretch the lead to 100.

All will depend on first session of pakistan batting. Their openers will have to perform and nullify the lead, its not too much
 
Mamoon said:
So useless part-timer Malik has only one wicket less than specialist Babar even though he has bowled around 100 overs less.
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just one thing, is malik really a 'useless part timer' when your'e already telling the statistics.

he is underused.
 
super hitter said:
just one thing, is malik really a 'useless part timer' when your'e already telling the statistics.

he is underused.
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I don't think he's useless. I am just taking a dig at the posters here who call him that.

He is a good part-time option.
 
Mamoon said:
I was actually amongst the few who backed him when he was deemed rubbish on this forum 2-3 years ago, but now suddenly he has become a world class fast bowler. We always love to deal in extremes.

Matter of fact is that he is good but lacks the extra bit of skill and ability to be considered in the top class bracket, and if he is your best fast bowler than it says a lot about your resources.

Not bashing him here though, just stating the obvious. He has been the worst bowler on show in this Test after Babar.
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Well i think he always need bit of motivation to do something .. like in watson case. . Wen he bowl well with that rhythm he looks better than johnson .. because i hardly remember johnson being that threatning in uae or anywer in asia for that matter (9-15-3) spell. Correct menif im wrong.
 
Get them before 300 and then openers should nullify the lead i hope they can
 
The cricket enthusiast said:
Well i think he always need bit of motivation to do something .. like in watson case. . Wen he bowl well with that rhythm he looks better than johnson .. because i hardly remember johnson being that threatning in uae or anywer in asia for that matter (9-15-3) spell. Correct menif im wrong.
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Johnson wasn't good in the UAE, but these two aren't even comparable so I don't understand why people have to bring in Johnson to defend Wahab. Its like comparing Tendulkar to Younis Khan.

I don't get this motivation bit either; he needs to man up and start taking responsibility if he's the spearhead of the pace attack, rather than waiting for others to provide motivation all the time.
 
Mamoon said:
I was actually amongst the few who backed him when he was deemed rubbish on this forum 2-3 years ago, but now suddenly he has become a world class fast bowler. We always love to deal in extremes.

Matter of fact is that he is good but lacks the extra bit of skill and ability to be considered in the top class bracket, and if he is your best fast bowler than it says a lot about your resources.

Not bashing him here though, just stating the obvious. He has been the worst bowler on show in this Test after Babar.
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I think the literal meaning of his post was something else lol.
 
Mamoon said:
Johnson wasn't good in the UAE, but these two aren't even comparable so I don't understand why people have to bring in Johnson to defend Wahab. Its like comparing Tendulkar to Younis Khan.

I don't get this motivation bit either; he needs to man up and start taking responsibility if he's the spearhead of the pace attack, rather than waiting for others to provide motivation all the time.
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I may have missed it but i dont really remember johnson scaring **** out of batsmen except the brit one.
 
Mamoon said:
Johnson wasn't good in the UAE, but these two aren't even comparable so I don't understand why people have to bring in Johnson to defend Wahab. Its like comparing Tendulkar to Younis Khan.

I don't get this motivation bit either; he needs to man up and start taking responsibility if he's the spearhead of the pace attack, rather than waiting for others to provide motivation all the time.
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He simply isnt skillful enough. There is only so much that u can do with adrenaline.
Majority of the time, he is bowling to righties whom he cant dismiss bowled or lbw coz of his flawed wrist position

So what r his plans to dismiss the batsmen? Angling the ball away, hoping for an edge or just banging it in half way for a mistimed pull
He basically requires the batters to get out to him rather than him bowling a wicket taking delivery. A bowler that cant attack the wickets with an in shaping delivery is useless

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axl100mph said:
He simply isnt skillful enough. There is only so much that u can do with adrenaline.
Majority of the time, he is bowling to righties whom he cant dismiss bowled or lbw coz of his flawed wrist position

So what r his plans to dismiss the batsmen? Angling the ball away, hoping for an edge or just banging it in half way for a mistimed pull
He basically requires the batters to get out to him rather than him bowling a wicket taking delivery. A bowler that cant attack the wickets with an in shaping delivery is useless

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Johnson wouldn't be much different if he played on UAE pitches.
 
ChachaCricket said:
Johnson wouldn't be much different if he played on UAE pitches.
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Atleast johnson can curl it back a bit to the righties with the new ball but he is too overcoached n measured to try different varieties as is required on these pitches.
wahab on the other hand is a more natural bowler but his inability to swing it back means he ist stripped off the bowled n lbw dismissal n is hence always reliant on the batsmen to make the mistake.

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Anderson won't go wicket less so he will definitely pick up one of the openers. Moen will probably get Hafeez.

Regardless of how flat the track maybe, under pressure this Pak batting line will continue to lose wickets.

Then you have tail which won't score more than 10 between them
 
But that was more Azhar Ali's wicket than Malik. Nothing special about that delivery, the catch is one of the best this series.

Azhar is such a massive upgrade on Masood in these situations. His presence is invaluable in the side.
 
Need to take this last wicket quickly any extra runs now are vital and a nuisance.
 
Lets hope england spinners dont do any damage when they bowl.
 
axl100mph said:
Atleast johnson can curl it back a bit to the righties with the new ball but he is too overcoached n measured to try different varieties as is required on these pitches.
wahab on the other hand is a more natural bowler but his inability to swing it back means he ist stripped off the bowled n lbw dismissal n is hence always reliant on the batsmen to make the mistake.

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Johnson's swing the kooka is minimal and sometimes nonexistent whereas Wahab's got a huge edge on him with reverse swing. Let Wahab play all his cricket on bouncy tracks and he'll average 28-30.

Fast bowling is more than just swinging it back in. There are many tricks Wahab can learn and use effectively on these pitches but he's an idiot like every other bowler in Pakistan.

If he can't swing, then learn to bowl cutters, around the wicket yorker setup by a couple of bouncers. Bowling closer to the stump and then going wider to angle inwards to the stumps. Bowling one length ball followed by pitching the same length but bending your back to get more bounce. I can keep going but it isn't just lack of swing, there is nothing upstairs.
 
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