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PCB vs BCCI MoU case: BCCI seeks 15 cr ($2m) legal fee from PCB [Post #375]

PCB and their fans live in an alternative universe with alternative understanding of rules. They need to be made aware that this world does not run according to their wishes.

In this universe, you cannot waste the time of others and get away with it. PCB may have all the time in the world to waste but the time of BCCI is valuable. PCB waste their time dragging them into an unnecessary litigation. BCCI could have used this time fruitfully in what they are good at, viz. making money for themselves (and for ICC and other boards, including PCB). PCB are lucky that BCCI will only be seeking the legal expenses for this litigation (which would be a few millions only) and not the opportunity cost (which would be for a much bigger amount). The BCCI office bearers are successful businessmen and they know how to make money unlike PCB office bearers who thought that they would be able to earn more money by extortion than what they are capable of earning by selling their cricket.

BCCI will demand legal expenses and PCB will swallow its pride and pay it meekly. If PCB tries to show ego, the price to pay for that would be much bigger.
 
PCB and their fans live in an alternative universe with alternative understanding of rules. They need to be made aware that this world does not run according to their wishes.

In this universe, you cannot waste the time of others and get away with it. PCB may have all the time in the world to waste but the time of BCCI is valuable. PCB waste their time dragging them into an unnecessary litigation. BCCI could have used this time fruitfully in what they are good at, viz. making money for themselves (and for ICC and other boards, including PCB). PCB are lucky that BCCI will only be seeking the legal expenses for this litigation (which would be a few millions only) and not the opportunity cost (which would be for a much bigger amount). The BCCI office bearers are successful businessmen and they know how to make money unlike PCB office bearers who thought that they would be able to earn more money by extortion than what they are capable of earning by selling their cricket.

BCCI will demand legal expenses and PCB will swallow its pride and pay it meekly. If PCB tries to show ego, the price to pay for that would be much bigger.

Why thump chests as if BCCI will give you the money? :)) BCCI will do this, oh BCCI will do that :yk
 
What a post by [MENTION=138492]latecut[/MENTION]. SOME blind fans need to read it or else they can start a new thread that who will win the case of $4 million which BCCI is going to ask PCB to pay them for dragging them into nothing of a case.
 
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]
I may be closer to BCCI than you may be closer to PCB, for all that you know.
 
:))) @ opportunity cost. Successful businessesmen at BCCI.. let's see

BCCI still run by Supreme Court?
 
Wow, BCCI bossing the PCB here.

If they want the money, they will get it.
 
I guess people don't know how law works,

When a person sues other person for some apparent reason and its proved wrong. THE OTHER PERSON IS UNNECESSARILY DRAGGED INTO SPENDING MONEY, TIME AND RESOURCES. Don't forget damaging image.

which is paid by the losing faction, in this case PCB.

BCCI will win, it's legal and rightful, people who are saying they should not countersue, please meet me, I wanna sue you, waste your damn time and then when I am proven false, I'll just walk away.

Actually my friend you don't seem to know much about the law you are talking about.

The word you are looking for is frivolous lawsuit. If read the snippets of the judgement alone it clarifies that the DRC did not think this was a frivolous lawsuit. Just because you lose doesn't mean you did not have just cause for the case.
 
Well, why dodge the actual argument? Any problem with him talking about BCCI? We support whoever we want, we do not see money in everything dude.
 
Run by supreme court , still dictates everyone and in everything. Imagine what will happen when BCCI will run at its own after its election.
 
PCB and their fans live in an alternative universe with alternative understanding of rules. They need to be made aware that this world does not run according to their wishes.

In this universe, you cannot waste the time of others and get away with it. PCB may have all the time in the world to waste but the time of BCCI is valuable. PCB waste their time dragging them into an unnecessary litigation. BCCI could have used this time fruitfully in what they are good at, viz. making money for themselves (and for ICC and other boards, including PCB). PCB are lucky that BCCI will only be seeking the legal expenses for this litigation (which would be a few millions only) and not the opportunity cost (which would be for a much bigger amount). The BCCI office bearers are successful businessmen and they know how to make money unlike PCB office bearers who thought that they would be able to earn more money by extortion than what they are capable of earning by selling their cricket.

BCCI will demand legal expenses and PCB will swallow its pride and pay it meekly. If PCB tries to show ego, the price to pay for that would be much bigger.

Actually in this universe you they can get away with wasting all you named. You just need a just cause for doing so, DRC judgement clearly states there was merit in PCB's complaint just not enough to win them the case.
 
Actually in this universe you they can get away with wasting all you named. You just need a just cause for doing so, DRC judgement clearly states there was merit in PCB's complaint just not enough to win them the case.

People in fields like law, finance etc rarely give their judgement in a cut and dried manner. They write their finding in such a manner that even the loser feels that he had a strong case and he narrowly lost the case. That is the way of judges to encourage losers to "not lose hope" and keep up doing litigation.

It is the finding in the last para that matters, not the pages upon pages of legalese that precedes it.

The judgement is given in a language that is standard language of judgement in western countries as well as in commonwealth countries that have copied British legal system.

So if you think that PCB had a strong case and they lost narrowly, it means that you are not familiar with legal matters. One needs to have some first hand experience of it. It would help if you yourself have fought some such cases against strong opponents and won, before one should pass comments on such matters. I do not think that the people who are talking "knowledgeably" in this case have much understanding of law and how courts and judges give their decisions.
 
PCB should seek inspiration from their 2009 lawsuit against the ICC which forced the ICC to pay compensation to the PCB
 
People in fields like law, finance etc rarely give their judgement in a cut and dried manner. They write their finding in such a manner that even the loser feels that he had a strong case and he narrowly lost the case. That is the way of judges to encourage losers to "not lose hope" and keep up doing litigation.

It is the finding in the last para that matters, not the pages upon pages of legalese that precedes it.

The judgement is given in a language that is standard language of judgement in western countries as well as in commonwealth countries that have copied British legal system.

So if you think that PCB had a strong case and they lost narrowly, it means that you are not familiar with legal matters. One needs to have some first hand experience of it. It would help if you yourself have fought some such cases against strong opponents and won, before one should pass comments on such matters. I do not think that the people who are talking "knowledgeably" in this case have much understanding of law and how courts and judges give their decisions.

I never said PCB had a strong case or lost narrowly, what I said was for any judge to ask PCB to pay all costs of the proceedings BCCI has to prove that the case had no basis and DRC in this case didn't think so.

I have not fought or won cases, I am not a lawyer but know enough law and have enough common sense to say that if the judge in this case DRC did not state the case to be a frivolous litigation it isn't going to grant BCCI's request for PCB to pay all expenses. Never have I heard any court ever giving a judgement like you described in the first para and then sanctioning the litigant by asking him to pay all costs.
 
PCB should seek inspiration from their 2009 lawsuit against the ICC which forced the ICC to pay compensation to the PCB

They did seek inspiration that's why the case just were stupid enough to think the result was going to be similar again.
 
PCB should seek inspiration from their 2009 lawsuit against the ICC which forced the ICC to pay compensation to the PCB

What inspiration? It's over!

This case is forever closed now as the decision is non-appealable. There's nothing to do now for the PCB other than moving on.
 
I hope that you have read the 26 page judgement. The last line of the judgement reads-

"Order

For the reasons given above, the PCB's claim is dismissed. Costs are reserved."

It means that the decision about costs will be pronounced later. That is where the claim for cost that BCCI are making comes into reckoning. No doubt PCB lawyer too will chip in with his input. So, please wait for the decision that the committee makes about costs.
 
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Thats how corruption begins. An unccessary , unthoughtful expense, which resulted in all the middleman getting huge pays.

There should be some accountability and there has to be cases against those responsible individuals.
 
What inspiration? It's over!

This case is forever closed now as the decision is non-appealable. There's nothing to do now for the PCB other than moving on.

The PCB can sue the ICC if they strongly believe that this judgement has been written and delivered by the BCCI
 
The PCB can sue the ICC if they strongly believe that this judgement has been written and delivered by the BCCI

It would help if you do some research and homework before coming up with such comments.
Proposed topics for research-
1. Find out about the credentials of the three persons who formed the committee
2. Find out whether the decision is appealable.
3. If you think PCB can sue ICC, then in which court ?
4. What documentary evidence would PCB give if they sue ICC in some court.
5. What would be the likely fate of such litigation ?
 
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Good on BCCI - PCB should be taught a lesson on what happens when you pick a fight with the top dogs in the business.

We are in no place to dictate or force others to play us when we have boycotted India in the past. Prior to the 2011 WC, PCB tried to get the tournament shifted out of India when it lost its hosting rights. Also not to forget they also got their players to boycott the second edition from IPL.

Consequently it has backfired spectacularly, if only they had enough sense to do things diplomatically perhaps relations with BCCI wouldn't be so sour. Speaking of which it is only going to get worse because of all of this. Nothing is more shameful than begging your biggest rival for money.

Mamoon has repeatedly said "there is no cure for Sethiphobia", he and other Sethi loyalists ought to answer firstly why Najam wasn't competent enough to ensure that any agreement with India over fixtures wasn't legally binding (instead of getting MoU)?

After failing to negotiate this, why then do you decide to waste millions of PCB funds after your screw up in securing a legal settlement? - given that you knew the odds were heavily stacked against you

Who knows what other stunts he had lined up to humiliate Pakistan cricket further. Couldn't be happier to see him get shown the door.
 
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It would help if you do some research and homework before coming up with such comments.
Proposed topics for research-
1. Find out about the credentials of the three persons who formed the committee
2. Find out whether the decision is appealable.
3. If you think PCB can sue ICC, then in which court ?
4. What documentary evidence would PCB give if they sue ICC in some court.
5. What would be the likely fate of such litigation ?
Come on now, don't you know PCB they sued ICC and won and they can do so again so what if case isn't same or has anything to do with earlier case. They won and it is like the CT trophy, it is be all and end all of all arguments.
 
The PCB can sue the ICC if they strongly believe that this judgement has been written and delivered by the BCCI

No they cannot. I repeat - the verdict was non-appealable. And both boards agreed to it from the start.

And I'm a 100% sure PCB wouldn't stir up the ICC anymore. If they do, the future of Pakistan cricket will be in serious jeopardy.

Nobody wants to deal with an organisation that's always causing unnecessary trouble for everyone around.

PCB is stupid. But they are not that stupid.
 
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In my opinion the last sentence says its all. The PCB's Claim is dismissed. The costs are reserved.
There is case where BCCI can claim costs but its not guaranteed, which may decided on merit
 
What inspiration? It's over!

This case is forever closed now as the decision is non-appealable. There's nothing to do now for the PCB other than moving on.

No they cannot. I repeat - the verdict was non-appealable. And both boards agreed to it from the start.

And I'm a 100% sure PCB wouldn't stir up the ICC anymore. If they do, the future of Pakistan cricket will be in serious jeopardy.

Nobody wants to deal with an organisation that's always causing unnecessary trouble for everyone around.

PCB is stupid. But they are not that stupid.

The PCB is not some minnow jamadar Cricket board that the ICC can afford to sideline and ignore. They say if you make enough noise, people do notice.

Boxers sue boxing organizations in courts, no reason why the pcb cannot sue the ICC in dubai or London wherever their headquarters are.

Realistically speaking, I expect the pcb to negotiate real hard behind the scenes with threats, give and take where they agree to accept the verdict in finality in exchange for not being held liable for bccis legal fees
 
The PCB is not some minnow jamadar Cricket board that the ICC can afford to sideline and ignore. They say if you make enough noise, people do notice.

Boxers sue boxing organizations in courts, no reason why the pcb cannot sue the ICC in dubai or London wherever their headquarters are.

Realistically speaking, I expect the pcb to negotiate real hard behind the scenes with threats, give and take where they agree to accept the verdict in finality in exchange for not being held liable for bccis legal fees

If this was the 90s, PCB could still have done something.

Today, PCB is already sidelined in world cricket. Financially they are weak. In terms of political stability they are weak. As it is there is no international cricket in Pakistan

PCB simply does not have enough power or influence to throw its weight around or "negotiate hard".

PCB would have to be really foolish to pursue this matter any further. Because it will only hurt them. Nobody else.
 
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What inspiration? It's over!

This case is forever closed now as the decision is non-appealable. There's nothing to do now for the PCB other than moving on.

No they cannot. I repeat - the verdict was non-appealable. And both boards agreed to it from the start.

And I'm a 100% sure PCB wouldn't stir up the ICC anymore. If they do, the future of Pakistan cricket will be in serious jeopardy.

Nobody wants to deal with an organisation that's always causing unnecessary trouble for everyone around.

PCB is stupid. But they are not that stupid.

If this was the 90s, PCB could still have done something.

Today, PCB is already sidelined in world cricket. Financially they are weak. In terms of political stability they are weak. As it is there is no international cricket in Pakistan

PCB simply does not have enough power or influence to throw its weight around or "negotiate hard".

PCB would have to be really foolish to pursue this matter any further. Because it will only hurt them. Nobody else.

Disagree, the pcb and Pakistan Cricket has done really well to stay afloat given the challenges it has had to deal with in the last 10-20 years. Pakistan Cricket is the second largest cricketing market in South Asia and that counts for something.

Compare that to the Sri Lankan Cricket Board which inspite of so many series against India, hosting a WC at home are bankrupt. If the PCB feels that the panel did not act impartially and let the BCCI write this verdict, they are well within their rights to protest and let their displeasure known.
 
Disagree, the pcb and Pakistan Cricket has done really well to stay afloat given the challenges it has had to deal with in the last 10-20 years. Pakistan Cricket is the second largest cricketing market in South Asia and that counts for something.

Compare that to the Sri Lankan Cricket Board which inspite of so many series against India, hosting a WC at home are bankrupt. If the PCB feels that the panel did not act impartially and let the BCCI write this verdict, they are well within their rights to protest and let their displeasure known.

They are within their rights alright. But they will also have to suffer the consequences of it if they go ahead with it.

I'm not saying that PCB hasn't done well to stay afloat during these times. But there is no denying that PCB has very little political influence on world cricket today. And they simply do not have the financial strength to be at loggerheads with the big bosses for years on end.

So I dont see anything of that sort happening.
 
Why thump chests as if BCCI will give you the money? :)) BCCI will do this, oh BCCI will do that :yk

By the same logic why fans on this forum jumping up n down before verdict as if PCB supposed to distribute extortion money amongst you after winning this case
 
The PCB can sue the ICC if they strongly believe that this judgement has been written and delivered by the BCCI

And get bulldozed again?

If I were them, I wouldn't bother.
 
The PCB can sue the ICC if they strongly believe that this judgement has been written and delivered by the BCCI

PCB can't sue ICC on this case. They already agreed that this verdict will be a final one. If they pursue, then it will be dismissed automatically given they already agreed not to pursue in past.
 
What inspiration? It's over!

This case is forever closed now as the decision is non-appealable. There's nothing to do now for the PCB other than moving on.

No they cannot. I repeat - the verdict was non-appealable. And both boards agreed to it from the start.

And I'm a 100% sure PCB wouldn't stir up the ICC anymore. If they do, the future of Pakistan cricket will be in serious jeopardy.

Nobody wants to deal with an organisation that's always causing unnecessary trouble for everyone around.

PCB is stupid. But they are not that stupid.

If this was the 90s, PCB could still have done something.

Today, PCB is already sidelined in world cricket. Financially they are weak. In terms of political stability they are weak. As it is there is no international cricket in Pakistan

PCB simply does not have enough power or influence to throw its weight around or "negotiate hard".

PCB would have to be really foolish to pursue this matter any further. Because it will only hurt them. Nobody else.

PCB can't sue ICC on this case. They already agreed that this verdict will be a final one. If they pursue, then it will be dismissed automatically given they already agreed not to pursue in past.

Not to sure. If the court suspects malfeasance from the ICC and incorrect and biased application of the laws and rules by the ICC, they can direct the ICC to explain themselves and to revisit the judgment
 
[MENTION=131678]Madplayer[/MENTION]
I may be closer to BCCI than you may be closer to PCB, for all that you know.

Nothing's happening. No costs awarded. BCCI attempting to chest thump only.
 
Once again we are in the loop hole of he said/she said. They could have, they might have not. It didn't happen so assuming something without the event even taking place is not going to go anywhere.

To put this concept into perspective, why shouldn't BCB take PCB to the same route? If you're up for PCB taking BCCI to court, same logic should apply for BCB taking PCB to court for not touring even when promised? BCB payed money to PCB because they didn't tour, don't see PCB doing the same thing back to them. We can once again get into the entanglment of he said/she said but all in all it was never in contract and only violation of good faith.

Did Bangladesh votes for anything in Pakistan’s favour such as big 3 vote. There is no bilateral tours between Pakistan vs Bang against each other neither visited the other.
 
Pakistan could use this result to not tour Bangladesh and not playing ind in any tournament saying govt. clearance
 
But losing is not winning, BCCI will lose this case.

I'm not convinced it s a given result either way.

Court proceedings in UK the plaintiff pays the defendant's court/lawyer costs if they lose.

where as in the US, if each part pay their costs.

I remember Botham sued Imran and lost. botham had to pay the court costs.

Depends on which rules applies here.

Regarding the proceeds being frivolous, BCCI has strong case.

1) Big 3 was doesn't and dusted in Feb 2014. PCB abstained. BCCI gained nothing from PCB's vote in April 2014. If there was quid pro quo, it would have been stated and would have been mentioned in the proceedings. It was not.

2) any educated adult would know the difference between LOI, MOUI and a legally binding contract.

a) Najam's communication that series might not happen due to tensions at the border implies that he is aware of government approval is required and that atmosphere is not conducive to playing a series.

b) The fact that PCB drew up a FTP series contract (which BCCI did not sign) implies that PCB is well aware that the they needed more than the LOI/MOU they had.

SO, it comes down to what BCCI''s goal is.

1) If it is to recover the the money, the chances are even.

2) If the goal is to make it painful for PCB and and prevent any future actions like this by PCB or anyone else, it is well worth the effort
 
I'm not convinced it s a given result either way.

Court proceedings in UK the plaintiff pays the defendant's court/lawyer costs if they lose.

where as in the US, if each part pay their costs.

I remember Botham sued Imran and lost. botham had to pay the court costs.

Depends on which rules applies here.

Regarding the proceeds being frivolous, BCCI has strong case.

1) Big 3 was doesn't and dusted in Feb 2014. PCB abstained. BCCI gained nothing from PCB's vote in April 2014. If there was quid pro quo, it would have been stated and would have been mentioned in the proceedings. It was not.

2) any educated adult would know the difference between LOI, MOUI and a legally binding contract.

a) Najam's communication that series might not happen due to tensions at the border implies that he is aware of government approval is required and that atmosphere is not conducive to playing a series.

b) The fact that PCB drew up a FTP series contract (which BCCI did not sign) implies that PCB is well aware that the they needed more than the LOI/MOU they had.

SO, it comes down to what BCCI''s goal is.

1) If it is to recover the the money, the chances are even.

2) If the goal is to make it painful for PCB and and prevent any future actions like this by PCB or anyone else, it is well worth the effort
This isn't a court its basically an arbitration proceeding will be highly punitive to not share costs.
 
I take my words back. No point talking about any further PCB action against the BCCI and ICC, if the new PCB chairman Ehsan Mani is not interested.

Can the PCB escape having to reimburse the BCCI for legal expenses? What can the PCB do from here to patch up with the BCCI and what can they learn from the Big 3 and MOU episode?
 
Choro yaat yeh drama, both PCB and BCCI. Just live and let live. This is getting really boring now.
 
So basically you want Pakistan cricket to further go down the hill?

IF PAK doesnot plays ind in tournaments ICC revenue decreases as a result every member share will go down proportionally.I thing ratio will be as $1:$12 PAKISTAN : other boards. Why should PAK play india if PAK govt. doesnot allow PAK? And these boards cannot sue Pakistan
 
This isn't a court its basically an arbitration proceeding will be highly punitive to not share costs.

It is also highly punitive to the defendant to initiate a claim which plaintiffs own internal communication indicates are borderline frivolous.

BCCI has money to burn, PCB does not.

If BCCI initiates a claim, PCB will either have to

a) defend it, spend money on lawyers. financially weaken

b) not defend it, lose and pay BCCI's fee. financially weaken.

IF BCCI's goal is to hurt, PCB, BCCI can't lose either way.
 
I take my words back. No point talking about any further PCB action against the BCCI and ICC, if the new PCB chairman Ehsan Mani is not interested.

Can the PCB escape having to reimburse the BCCI for legal expenses? What can the PCB do from here to patch up with the BCCI and what can they learn from the Big 3 and MOU episode?

PCB need to really look outside BCCI and try to build relationship with other boards. The issue with India is more political, so neither BCCI nor PCB cant do much. The issue will only settle when the political situation improves. PCB need to shed its ego and build good relation with BCB/Afghan cricket board first. Call them for few series in UAE, gain their confidence and then slowly request them to tour Pakistan. This rigid attitude of BD is not marketable in UAE etc. needs to be dropped. The issue with PCB is that it still live in 90s like most Pak fans and think themselves to be some powerhouse. But in reality lots have changed and PCB is struggling big time with boards like BCB are getting richer than them.
 
IF PAK doesnot plays ind in tournaments ICC revenue decreases as a result every member share will go down proportionally.I thing ratio will be as $1:$12 PAKISTAN : other boards. Why should PAK play india if PAK govt. doesnot allow PAK? And these boards cannot sue Pakistan

In ICC tounament, revenue generated is equally distributed among all participating nations. Indo-Pak game is the biggest revenue generator for ICC. So if PCB decide not to play with India, it will harm them more than than BCCI.
 
PCB need to really look outside BCCI and try to build relationship with other boards. The issue with India is more political, so neither BCCI nor PCB cant do much. The issue will only settle when the political situation improves. PCB need to shed its ego and build good relation with BCB/Afghan cricket board first. Call them for few series in UAE, gain their confidence and then slowly request them to tour Pakistan. This rigid attitude of BD is not marketable in UAE etc. needs to be dropped. The issue with PCB is that it still live in 90s like most Pak fans and think themselves to be some powerhouse. But in reality lots have changed and PCB is struggling big time with boards like BCB are getting richer than them.

Playing in the UAE is destroying our cricket, I want our batsmen to play on pitches where the ball comes on to the bat for starters and ofcourse if there is spin it has to be fast spin with bounce. Enough of the slow grindy pitches of the UAE. If it means hosting their home series in Bangladesh, Sri Lanka or England then so be it.
 
Did Bangladesh votes for anything in Pakistan’s favour such as big 3 vote. There is no bilateral tours between Pakistan vs Bang against each other neither visited the other.

This is major misconception.

the Big 3 vote happened in Feb 2014 and PCB abstained.

they did not vote in favor of Big 3. Even if they had changed their vote to Yes or no, it would have made not difference to the outcome.
 
This is major misconception.

the Big 3 vote happened in Feb 2014 and PCB abstained.

they did not vote in favor of Big 3. Even if they had changed their vote to Yes or no, it would have made not difference to the outcome.

You can thank Zaka Ashraf for abstaining to vote for the Big 3. The guy was utterly naïve in thinking the other 5-6 ICC members would stand with the PCB against the Big 3 model and ultimately the PCB was left all alone. Sethi took charge when the PCB was isolated at the end, had he been allowed to take charge earler and if Zaka Ashraf had the interests of Pakistan Cricket and the PCB in mind, he would not have caused instability in the PCB with the court cases.
 
PCB lost the case, they should move on. We will survive without playing bilaterals against India.

We should sit back and watch BCCI hypocrisy on full display in every ICC tournament where they play Pakistan. With every such match, BCCI/GOI screams at full pitch that the lives of their jawans are less important than points in an ICC tournament.
 
You can thank Zaka Ashraf for abstaining to vote for the Big 3. The guy was utterly naïve in thinking the other 5-6 ICC members would stand with the PCB against the Big 3 model and ultimately the PCB was left all alone. Sethi took charge when the PCB was isolated at the end, had he been allowed to take charge earler and if Zaka Ashraf had the interests of Pakistan Cricket and the PCB in mind, he would not have caused instability in the PCB with the court cases.

Not sure why people get mixed with this stuff.

3 boards held back their support and were planning to vote no: PCB, SA and SL

SA capitulated and declared they will support big 3 and PCB and SL voting "no" would not have stopped. So, PCB and SL abstained for unknown reasons.

all of this is public record.

Zaka had no support and he knew it.
 
Not sure why people get mixed with this stuff.

3 boards held back their support and were planning to vote no: PCB, SA and SL

SA capitulated and declared they will support big 3 and PCB and SL voting "no" would not have stopped. So, PCB and SL abstained for unknown reasons.

all of this is public record.

Zaka had no support and he knew it.

It shows Zaka's pathetic non-visionary leadership, he should have had the intelligence and foresight to know that the entire cricketing world would have eventually sided with the BCCI and would look out for their best interests, shouldn't the right decision for the PCB at the time been to have voted for the BCCI when it had some bargaining power left as opposed to being all alone at the end?
 
It shows Zaka's pathetic non-visionary leadership, he should have had the intelligence and foresight to know that the entire cricketing world would have eventually sided with the BCCI and would look out for their best interests, shouldn't the right decision for the PCB at the time been to have voted for the BCCI when it had some bargaining power left as opposed to being all alone at the end?

1) SA changed its mind hours before the vote.
2) Zaka asked for the promises from BCCI in writing with penalties. He was smart enough to know if he had to have contract, not a LOI or MOU.

Najam was either

a) not smart enough to know the difference between LOI/MOU and a contract, or
b) knowing wasted money on litigation which he knew had little chance
 
1) SA changed its mind hours before the vote.
2) Zaka asked for the promises from BCCI in writing with penalties. He was smart enough to know if he had to have contract, not a LOI or MOU.

Najam was either

a) not smart enough to know the difference between LOI/MOU and a contract, or
b) knowing wasted money on litigation which he knew had little chance

Najam Sethi's hands were tied because by the time he had full charge of the PCB, the BCCI no longer needed the PCB and was not in a position to demand anything from the BCCI, but Zaka just wasted time and eventually isolated the PCB while the rest of the world voted for the BCCI. Had it been Sethi in place of Zaka during that time period when the BCCI was lobbying for votes, he would have been able to negotiate and get a few things in return, Sethi has proven his negotiating and bargaining skills with the successful establishment of the PSL and get a few international teams to tour Pakistan. Zaka has no accomplishment to speak off in comparison.
 
Najam Sethi's hands were tied because by the time he had full charge of the PCB, the BCCI no longer needed the PCB and was not in a position to demand anything from the BCCI, but Zaka just wasted time and eventually isolated the PCB while the rest of the world voted for the BCCI. Had it been Sethi in place of Zaka during that time period when the BCCI was lobbying for votes, he would have been able to negotiate and get a few things in return, Sethi has proven his negotiating and bargaining skills with the successful establishment of the PSL and get a few international teams to tour Pakistan. Zaka has no accomplishment to speak off in comparison.

1) BCCI never needed PCB. They needed one of PCB, SA or SL to flip.

PCB would have been front runner if not for non-cricket issues SA and SL didn't have no cricket issues and SA flipped first.

2) Sethi's negotiating skills have taken BCCI-PCB relations to new lows.
 
1) BCCI never needed PCB. They needed one of PCB, SA or SL to flip.

PCB would have been front runner if not for non-cricket issues SA and SL didn't have no cricket issues and SA flipped first.

2) Sethi's negotiating skills have taken BCCI-PCB relations to new lows.

What prevented the PCB for saying yes to the BCCI before SA and SL when the Indians needed that one vote and where the BCCI was willing to give something in exchange for that one vote?

Sethi can't negotiate when the BCCI doesn't need the PCB anymore. His hands were tied, Zaka had a stronger bargaining position because at that time the BCCI were strangling for votes and willing to give in exchange for these votes. By the time Sethi came into the mix, the PCB vote was no longer needed and there was no bargaining power.
 
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What prevented the PCB for saying yes to the BCCI before SA and SL when the Indians needed that one vote and where the BCCI was willing to give something in exchange for that one vote?

Sethi can't negotiate when the BCCI doesn't need the PCB anymore. His hands were tied, Zaka had a stronger bargaining position because at that time the BCCI were strangling for votes and willing to give in exchange for these votes. By the time Sethi came into the mix, the PCB vote was no longer needed and there was no bargaining power.

It is the lack of any guarantee from BCCI. All BCCI could afford to do was give verbal commitments. Here is a sample of opinion during the Big 3 negotiations.

https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/...rusted-pcb-should-vote-against-the-big-three/

"PCB must not fall for their trap as the BCCI is promising the PCB a lot of apples to just to get their vote. But the PCB needs to remember that there are huge chances that those apples might be rotten."

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/bcci-offered-pcb-to-join-big-three-report-109950

"The deal, however, broke down when the then PCB chairman, Zaka Ashraf, asked for guarantees which the BCCI was reluctant to commit to."

Najam accepted the useless LOI/MOU that Zaka rejected. Given how things turned out, looks like Zaka was right.

Najam tried playing both BCCI and Pakistan/Pakistan fans and got burned. Now PCB will be left dealing with the wreckage.
 
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This whole MOU shi* is a Najam Sethi gift to the nation that will keep giving.
 
Keep dreaming buddy. India will smash Pakistan anywhere in the world. We have far better batsmen, better spinners and better fielders. Your pace bowling maybe marginally ahead. Just check your overall ranking. You can’t even beat NZ on your make shift home ground. Besides have you forgotten the pasting you got in the Asia cup, even Wasim Akram said that the champions trophy win was a fluke for Pakistan. You don’t win test matches by fluke.
 
What inspiration? It's over!

This case is forever closed now as the decision is non-appealable. There's nothing to do now for the PCB other than moving on.

No they cannot. I repeat - the verdict was non-appealable. And both boards agreed to it from the start.

And I'm a 100% sure PCB wouldn't stir up the ICC anymore. If they do, the future of Pakistan cricket will be in serious jeopardy.

Nobody wants to deal with an organisation that's always causing unnecessary trouble for everyone around.

PCB is stupid. But they are not that stupid.

If this was the 90s, PCB could still have done something.

Today, PCB is already sidelined in world cricket. Financially they are weak. In terms of political stability they are weak. As it is there is no international cricket in Pakistan

PCB simply does not have enough power or influence to throw its weight around or "negotiate hard".

PCB would have to be really foolish to pursue this matter any further. Because it will only hurt them. Nobody else.

PCB can't sue ICC on this case. They already agreed that this verdict will be a final one. If they pursue, then it will be dismissed automatically given they already agreed not to pursue in past.

It is the lack of any guarantee from BCCI. All BCCI could afford to do was give verbal commitments. Here is a sample of opinion during the Big 3 negotiations.

https://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/...rusted-pcb-should-vote-against-the-big-three/

"PCB must not fall for their trap as the BCCI is promising the PCB a lot of apples to just to get their vote. But the PCB needs to remember that there are huge chances that those apples might be rotten."

https://www.cricketcountry.com/news/bcci-offered-pcb-to-join-big-three-report-109950

"The deal, however, broke down when the then PCB chairman, Zaka Ashraf, asked for guarantees which the BCCI was reluctant to commit to."

Najam accepted the useless LOI/MOU that Zaka rejected. Given how things turned out, looks like Zaka was right.

Najam tried playing both BCCI and Pakistan/Pakistan fans and got burned. Now PCB will be left dealing with the wreckage.

This was classic incompetence by Zaka Ashraf. Remained all alone out of 6-7 nations when all of them one by one gave their votes to the BCCI in exchange for something.

However I agree now in hindsight that MoU indeed turned out to be useless and the pcb was better off not giving their vote to the bcci
 
This was classic incompetence by Zaka Ashraf. Remained all alone out of 6-7 nations when all of them one by one gave their votes to the BCCI in exchange for something.

However I agree now in hindsight that MoU indeed turned out to be useless and the pcb was better off not giving their vote to the bcci

PCB had some leverage until SA capitulated. both PCB and BCCI knew that when it comes to touring Pakistan, GOI had the veto.

SA could count on BCCI to keep its gentleman's agreement becos there is not govt issue. PCB needed a guarantee.

PCB and SL got screwed by South Africa. not Zaka's fault.

Najam, tried to hurt BCCI when BCCI was in trouble with Indian supreme court. It backfired spectacularly and it will PCB which pays the price. not Najam. They should bill Najam for the lawyer fees
 
For all those talking about the case. read the details its clear that there was no ask for BCCI in writing from the Indian Govt so they took peoples word over written requests. From a legal point of view lets be fair, the ICC was looking for a way out and found it. This will never stand in a court of law but this is not a court of law, not a real one. I think the ICC knows what they did and will throw Pakistan a bone by not recovering the legal costs. Too all those arguing about fact put yourself in their shoes, if you lost a contract on just verbal communication and having no written evidence while a MOU or contract is in writing how would you feel. Perosnally I am happy, i do,nt honestly want Pakistan to play India as i want the team to stop begging. They are doing fine without it. Hope this ends PCBs whinning and begging for good. This just a game folks
 
For all those talking about the case. read the details its clear that there was no ask for BCCI in writing from the Indian Govt so they took peoples word over written requests. From a legal point of view lets be fair, the ICC was looking for a way out and found it. This will never stand in a court of law but this is not a court of law, not a real one. I think the ICC knows what they did and will throw Pakistan a bone by not recovering the legal costs. Too all those arguing about fact put yourself in their shoes, if you lost a contract on just verbal communication and having no written evidence while a MOU or contract is in writing how would you feel. Perosnally I am happy, i do,nt honestly want Pakistan to play India as i want the team to stop begging. They are doing fine without it. Hope this ends PCBs whinning and begging for good. This just a game folks

Strictly speaking, there is a reason PCB did not go the court of law route. Courts would know the difference an MOU, LOi and a contract.

PCB did its very best not to get in front of a body which knows the difference

They chose a non appealable route Becos they miscalculated BCCI’s current clout in ICC and thought they would put one over

Unfortunately that didn’t work out and Ehsan Mani has thrown in the towel. Read what you will from that
 
Former BCCI chief Anurag Thakur welcomes ICC's judgement

Former BCCI president Anurag Thakur Tuesday welcomed ICC dispute panel's judgement, which dismissed Pakistan's compensation claims against India. The International Cricket Council's dispute panel Tuesday dismissed Pakistan's compensation claim against India for allegedly failing to honour a MoU on bilateral series, ending the long-standing feud by accepting the BCCI's arguments on the matter.

"I welcome the ICC's decision as the demand by PCB for a compensation from BCCI was baseless," Thakur, who was here on a campaign trail ahead of the Madhya Pradesh polls, told PTI. "The PCB's claim is dismissed. Costs are reserved," the ICC stated in the one-line order that concluded a 26-page judgement. "The judgement is binding and non-appealable,"

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had demanded Rs 447 crore compensation after alleging that the BCCI didn't honour the MoU that required India to play six bilateral series between 2015 to 2023.

"Instead of seeking a compensation from the BCCI over bilateral series, Pakistan should focus on how can relationship between the two countries can get better. Pakistan should stop terror activities," Thakur said.

According to Thakur, a BJP leader, Indian audience will like to see India-Pakistan matches only when the relationship between the two nations are "cordial". He also expressed hope that Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, being a former cricketer, will try to improve the bilateral relations.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...-anurag-thakur-welcomes-iccs-judgement/317753
 
For all those talking about the case. read the details its clear that there was no ask for BCCI in writing from the Indian Govt so they took peoples word over written requests. From a legal point of view lets be fair, the ICC was looking for a way out and found it. This will never stand in a court of law but this is not a court of law, not a real one. I think the ICC knows what they did and will throw Pakistan a bone by not recovering the legal costs. Too all those arguing about fact put yourself in their shoes, if you lost a contract on just verbal communication and having no written evidence while a MOU or contract is in writing how would you feel. Perosnally I am happy, i do,nt honestly want Pakistan to play India as i want the team to stop begging. They are doing fine without it. Hope this ends PCBs whinning and begging for good. This just a game folks

Read this case. It will tel you why PCB didn't want to take the case to a court of law. Courts get very detail oriented in contract disputes. all PCB had was some vague letter with very little to no details, conditions and remedies.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/15/health/oxford-comma-maine-court-case-trnd/index.html

group of dairy drivers argued that they deserved overtime pay for certain tasks they had completed. The company said they did not. An appeals court sided with the drivers, saying that the guidelines themselves were made too ambiguous by, you guessed it, a lack of an Oxford comma.
This is what the law says about activities that do NOT merit overtime pay. Pay attention to the first sentence:
The canning, processing, preserving, freezing, drying, marketing, storing, packing for shipment or distribution of:
(1) Agricultural produce;
(2) Meat and fish products; and
(3) Perishable foods.
That's a lot of things! But if we're getting picky, is packing for shipment its own activity, or does it only apply to the rest of that clause, i.e. the distribution of agricultural produce, etc.?

See, all of this could be solved if there were an Oxford comma, clearly separating "packing for shipment" and "distribution" as separate things! According to court documents, the drivers distribute perishable food, but they don't pack it.
Yes, this is the real argument they made. And they really won.
 
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Good on BCCI - PCB should be taught a lesson on what happens when you pick a fight with the top dogs in the business.

We are in no place to dictate or force others to play us when we have boycotted India in the past. Prior to the 2011 WC, PCB tried to get the tournament shifted out of India when it lost its hosting rights. Also not to forget they also got their players to boycott the second edition from IPL.

Consequently it has backfired spectacularly, if only they had enough sense to do things diplomatically perhaps relations with BCCI wouldn't be so sour. Speaking of which it is only going to get worse because of all of this. Nothing is more shameful than begging your biggest rival for money.

Mamoon has repeatedly said "there is no cure for Sethiphobia", he and other Sethi loyalists ought to answer firstly why Najam wasn't competent enough to ensure that any agreement with India over fixtures wasn't legally binding (instead of getting MoU)?

After failing to negotiate this, why then do you decide to waste millions of PCB funds after your screw up in securing a legal settlement? - given that you knew the odds were heavily stacked against you

Who knows what other stunts he had lined up to humiliate Pakistan cricket further. Couldn't be happier to see him get shown the door.

Good post. I had completely forgotten about PCB trying to sabotage India hosting 2011 WC. While the BCCI are no saints they at-least have a semblance of a professional outfit that strives to protect its interests. Rarely do you see loose cannons running BCCI and indulging in titillation thru some cringe-worthy media statements.

what I dont get though is that PCBs case was overseen by a Pakistan Supreme Court Judge !! Surely they are also not as incompetent to know that that this would be a futile endeavor ?
 
Strictly speaking, there is a reason PCB did not go the court of law route. Courts would know the difference an MOU, LOi and a contract.

PCB did its very best not to get in front of a body which knows the difference

They chose a non appealable route Becos they miscalculated BCCI’s current clout in ICC and thought they would put one over

Unfortunately that didn’t work out and Ehsan Mani has thrown in the towel. Read what you will from that

I agree!. Even I and plenty of posters here on PP who are not trained Legal experts could tell from that 2 page letter that it is hardly a legally binding contract drawn for exchange of goods/services worth USD 70 Million.
 
Good post. I had completely forgotten about PCB trying to sabotage India hosting 2011 WC. While the BCCI are no saints they at-least have a semblance of a professional outfit that strives to protect its interests. Rarely do you see loose cannons running BCCI and indulging in titillation thru some cringe-worthy media statements.

what I dont get though is that PCBs case was overseen by a Pakistan Supreme Court Judge !! Surely they are also not as incompetent to know that that this would be a futile endeavor ?

Really ! Now that is revealing. PCB from henceforth should stop relying on "legal experts" of their own country, be they lawyers or judges.
 
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Really ! Now that is revealing. PCB from henceforth should stop relying on "legal experts" of their own country, be they lawyers or judges.

SC advocate not Judge but still. And they hired a Law firm from London too !!!

https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...tribunal-in-dispute-against-bcci-1895323.html



The PCB is being represented by Khwaja Ahmad Hosain, Advocate Supreme Court of Pakistan, Alexandros Panayides of Clifford Chance, London, Lawyers from Clifford Chance, London.

Lawyers from LMA Ebrahim Hosain, Pakistan, Salman Naseer, PCB GM Legal Affairs.
 
I think the posters here are forgetting that it was possible for the PCB to lose the case inspite of having good legal arguments. The committee went out of its way to find a loophole to rule in favor of the BCCI.
 
https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/...o-reject-70-million-damage-claim-1946127.html

Two boys schedule an evening game of post-homework street cricket. One of them is all set to play. The other one doesn’t get his parents’ permission to go out and play. Play is called off without a ball being bowled. The cause is force majeure, an Act of God (or equivalents!), circumstances outside the control of the parties.

This common neighbourhood cricket scenario took on much larger proportions with the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) making a claim of breach of contract and for damages against the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI). The claim was based in the BCCI’s failure to field the Indian men’s national team for two series the PCB wished to host in November 2014 and December 2015, respectively, as proposed in a signed letter that had been exchanged between the boards on April 9, 2014.

After the PCB sent legal notices to the BCCI, and the BCCI summarily rejected its claims, the matter went before a Dispute Panel of the International Cricket Council (ICC) Dispute Resolution Committee (DRC). The Panel heard arguments and accepted evidence from a number of current and former leading lights in cricket administration as well as senior state functionaries. The Panel dismissed the PCB’s claim, in its entirety, in a detailed 26-page Award published on Tuesday.

Context Trumps Text

It was widely expected that the matter would turn on the issue of government approval, i.e., whether the requirement that the BCCI obtain Government of India clearance to play against Pakistan could be read in as an implied term of the alleged agreement. Doing this would mean that the BCCI’s failure or inability to have obtained such approval could be treated as a legitimate basis for it to be excused, without liability, from performing its obligations due to the PCB.

 A file photo of the PCB headquarters (Getty Images)

However, the matter did not even come to this, as the Panel found that the broader context in which the boards had exchanged the Letter led it to conclude that this document was merely an expression of intent and not a binding agreement. It held that for the parties to be bound to legally enforceable obligations a couple of additional steps would have been required (including coordination of scheduling through the ICC and the signing of a bi-lateral FTP Agreement), neither of which had been completed in the present case. It held that while the Letter created a “moral obligation” there was no “legal obligation” that it gave rise to, concluding that “Context trumps text” in its determination of the matter.

Although, at first sight it appears that the political events and governmental roles were not the basis of the decision, a closer reading underlines how these fed directly and determinatively into the Panel’s finding. More about that later.

Behind the Scenes

The Award can make laborious reading for the non-lawyer, with a fair amount of ink spilled on the intricacies of English contract law and how the facts of the current case correspond to such legal principles. However, it does provide a fascinating insight into the financial and legal model of global cricket administration, the status of the Future Tours Programme (FTP) and, most interestingly, the pulls and pushes at the ICC negotiating table during the short-lived ‘Big 3’ phase of the ICC’s financial and governance model (with the BCCI, Cricket Australia (CA) and the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in pole positions).

 (Photo Credit: Getty Images)

It is not incidental that one of the parties to the current dispute was part of the Big 3 and the other wasn’t. It is also no secret just how much other boards rely on hosting India for their own financial sustenance, let alone success. This is an outcrop of the boards’ dependency on broadcast rights revenue from home matches and the reality that the rights valuations for matches involving India, whether at home or touring, are significantly disproportionate when compared to most other cricket.

In reality, the PCB probably had little choice than to assert the claim, given the BCCI’s steadfast position in response to its legal notice, the financial stakes involved and the obvious pressures it would have faced from its stakeholders to pursue its claim.

Notably, the Panel goes out of its way to state in the Award that it felt that both boards “acted in the legitimate pursuit of the welfare of their two sporting institutions”.

The Letter

At the heart of the dispute was the Letter proposing bi-lateral tours with broad dates, hosting rights and formats of matches mentioned. This letter referred to a December 2015 tour with PCB as host, and also an obligation on BCCI to make “all efforts” to engage in a limited overs short tour hosted by PCB in November 2014. The Letter also mentioned an intent to sell broadcast rights and also, importantly, the intent of the parties to enter into a long form FTP Agreement in respect of the proposed tours. The acceptance by the ICC Executive Board of the Big 3 structure was also mentioned as a condition to the Letter remaining in effect.

The PCB argued that this Letter represented a firm agreement of the parties, that failure to keep to its terms was a breach by the BCCI giving rise to a claim for damages. The PCB’s position was that the FTP Agreement the parties agreed to enter into in due course was a “mere formality” and did not in any way annul or devalue the obligations documented in the Letter. It also suggested that the terms of the Letter were part consideration for PCB agreeing to the ‘Big 3’ model at the ICC, the resolution approving which the ICC Executive Board sought to pass unanimously through various side agreements and compromises between various boards.

On the other hand, the BCCI argued that the Letter was only the first step and not adequate in itself to create binding obligations. It also argued that, even if the obligation was deemed binding, it had sought and failed to obtain governmental clearance to play against Pakistan, which constituted a legitimate excuse and must be read into the term of the Letter by implication, given that the requirement of such approval was a matter of consistent practice and convention.

Telescope Not Microscope

The Panel held that a review of the Letter using a microscope would suggest it is a binding agreement, given that it bore all the emblems of a contract. However, it held that when a telescope is deployed the “context” in which the Letter was executed shone through. On this basis, it concluded that a reasonable person would not hold that the Letter constituted an enforceable agreement. The Panel, therefore, held that there was no question of breach by the BCCI and that, as a consequence, there was no basis for the PCB’s damages claim.

 (Photo Credit: Twitter/ICC)

The “context” the panel alluded to included that the PCB itself was hosting other teams during the India tour dates proposed in the Letter, resulting in clashes that had neither been resolved nor attempted to be resolved. According to it, this only further demonstrated that the Letter was just the first of three sequential steps agreed among ICC members in committing to a bilateral schedule – the latter two were the resolution of clashes with other playing commitments using a common scheduling meeting involving the ICC full members and the entry into a bilateral FTP Agreement between the parties.

In addition, and perhaps determinatively in this case, the Panel also concluded that in its view it was “inconceivable that the BCCI would ever have agreed to a contract without a force majeure clause enabling it to resile, by reason of absence of governmental approval, from what might otherwise be a binding commitment”.

In essence, the Panel held that if a clause any reasonable person aware of context would have put into a contract is missing (and a version of which was indeed present in the unsigned draft FTP Agreement) an understanding that does not contain this term cannot be a contract at all. It perhaps borrowed from the logic of Sherlock Holmes that it is important to take note of the “Dog that didn’t bark in the night” and give this ‘non-incident’ due regard.

The Panel makes this point while concurrently stating that the governmental approval issue is made moot by its decision on other grounds. Nonetheless, through a masterful piece of legal craft that Conan Doyle would be proud of, it puts the headline-making issues of political context and governmental approval at the very centre of its decision. It simply cloaks them in the language of “context” and its “reasonable person” test.

What Next

The Panel’s decision is stated to be final and non-appealable. This means that the PCB will have no further avenues to pursue this claim. The BCCI now has the opportunity to make a claim to recover its legal costs from the PCB.

What is unambiguously clear is that the political context, which adds on-field and off-field spice to matches between the neighbours, remains at the heart of bilateral cricket ties between India and Pakistan. As much as sport and politics make for uneasy bedfellows, not even hard-nosed contract law experts can ignore the ground realities.

(Nandan Kamath is Principal Lawyer at LawNK, practising sports and intellectual property law, and also acts as Managing Trustee of GoSports Foundation)
 
Lol, come to think of it. What has the PCB lost in any case? BCCI was refusing to play PCB in any case before the whole legal clash, they won't play any time soon now. The PCB spent $1.5 million in legal fees, the BCCI spent $4 million in legal fees. If the committee states both parties will pay their own legal costs then the PCB hasn't lost much given that they were never going to get $60 million from the BCCI.
 
Lol, come to think of it. What has the PCB lost in any case? BCCI was refusing to play PCB in any case before the whole legal clash, they won't play any time soon now. The PCB spent $1.5 million in legal fees, the BCCI spent $4 million in legal fees. If the committee states both parties will pay their own legal costs then the PCB hasn't lost much given that they were never going to get $60 million from the BCCI.

you are taking the sour grapes route? after all your bravado? sheesh.

Next thing you'll tell every one that the main goal was to make BCCI spend money on lawyers.

what will you say if they make PCB pay some or all of BCCI cost?
 
I think the posters here are forgetting that it was possible for the PCB to lose the case inspite of having good legal arguments. The committee went out of its way to find a loophole to rule in favor of the BCCI.

The arbitration committee also included a PCB nominee.

The 3 members of the committee are not ICC employees but legal luminaries.
 
Lol, come to think of it. What has the PCB lost in any case? BCCI was refusing to play PCB in any case before the whole legal clash, they won't play any time soon now. The PCB spent $1.5 million in legal fees, the BCCI spent $4 million in legal fees. If the committee states both parties will pay their own legal costs then the PCB hasn't lost much given that they were never going to get $60 million from the BCCI.

Pcb has lost the oppurtunity to host the indian team in future also. Bcci can simply break up all contacts with pcb even if there is no govt clearance issue.
 
Pcb has lost the oppurtunity to host the indian team in future also. Bcci can simply break up all contacts with pcb even if there is no govt clearance issue.

Agree. BCCI (or for that matter any other board) would be very stupid to sign anything with PCB at this point or in the future.

History indicates that BCCI has a long memory.

It will be interesting to see how PCB votes in future ICC issues.

1) it can't really rely on other boards to help with BCCI, so voting against BCCI is not an option.

2) voting with BCCI will make them look weak and desparate.
 
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So while Anurag Thakur talks in a reconciliatory tone, Najam Sethi still talks arrogantly. Najam Sethi will continue to harm PCB even after he has been booted out of it.
 
Some Pak fans still fuming inside with anger after the verdict came out dismissing PCB's case. They need to accept the verdict as Chairman Ehsan Mani has accepted it on behalf of PCB. There is no shame in accepting the defeat. Ehsan Mani was against it since day one so he was aware that PCB's case will get dismissed even when he wasnt the chairman of PCB. He had the experience of running ICC too which Sethi hadn't and he knew how things work in such cases.
 
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