[Report] ICC informs the PCB that India has refused to travel to Pakistan for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 [Updated Post #418]

[cricketjoshila]

Bhai, if you are going to dispute figures straight from broadcasters. There is no scope of having rational discussion with a self appointed vanguard of truth. Those stats have been shared and discussed months ago. Aap shayad so rahe the.
India-Pakistan matches do make money but they are not the most watched India matches of the last 2 world Cups. THATS A FACT!

Jaakar check karlo, don't broadcast your lack of knowledge with such aplomb and bring shame to your fellow Pakistanis.

‘Most watched’ ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2023 matches

Disney+ Hotstar set a new viewership record during the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup final between India and Australia. Here are the ‘most watched’ World Cup matches by peak concurrent viewership

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Be smart! Git gud!

I was a lurker on this forum when pakistanis were banned from the IPL. The consensus here was that without pakistanis IPL will die.

Indian cricket doesn't need Pakistan to generate revenues and BCCI can host any ICC event without Pakistan and not suffer financial losses.

 

[HalBass9]

A question for all Pakistani posters.

Pakistan all ex cricketer , journalist are telling PCB to boycott India and not go there to play even in ICC event's , thats fine

But can you ask them to Stop analysis every Indian matches on their YouTube channels?

90% ex players, journalist have own YouTube channels .

What do you think they will boycott to analysis indian matches ?

Indians should rather be doing that ?

 

[Devadwal]

Indians should rather be doing that ?

Indian ex player's are not do any analysis like pakistan players .

Hardly two three persons thats it .

 

[BoomBoomAli]

Everywhere else in the world it’s about winning Trophies without asterisks, in India it’s about making money. A cheap mentality and very insecure.

You’d never hear English fans talking about the money their board made in a year as opposed to the games they won.

The winner of this CT will have an asterisk next to their name should Pakistan or India not compete in it, it would be a disgrace and all down to the Indians.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Everywhere else in the world it’s about winning Trophies without asterisks, in India it’s about making money. A cheap mentality and very insecure.

You’d never hear English fans talking about the money their board made in a year as opposed to the games they won.

The winner of this CT will have an asterisk next to their name should Pakistan or India not compete in it, it would be a disgrace and all down to the Indians.

Which olympics will have such asterisks?

 

[HalBass9]

Everywhere else in the world it’s about winning Trophies without asterisks, in India it’s about making money. A cheap mentality and very insecure.

You’d never hear English fans talking about the money their board made in a year as opposed to the games they won.

The winner of this CT will have an asterisk next to their name should Pakistan or India not compete in it, it would be a disgrace and all down to the Indians.

The concept of ‘money’ serves as a convenient veil for some individuals’ bigotry and hypocrisy, as many Indians perceive it.

It is common to observe that some Indians deflect criticism of the bigotry shown by their fellow citizens or cult-like politicians by pointing to issues in Pakistan, such as ‘Pakistan going to the IMF.

 

[BoomBoomAli]

The concept of ‘money’ serves as a convenient veil for some individuals’ bigotry and hypocrisy, as many Indians perceive it.

It is common to observe that some Indians deflect criticism of the bigotry shown by their fellow citizens or cult-like politicians by pointing to issues in Pakistan, such as ‘Pakistan going to the IMF.

It shows the intellectual prowess of said individuals.

Imagine Manchester United and Liverpool fans arguing about how much money that make rather than how many trophies they win.

 

[Saj]

What I don't get is picking and choosing which sporting teams you send to Pakistan.

Surely is security is the reason, then you don't send any of your sporting teams there.

 

[Giroux28]

So a journalist on ARY is claiming that PCB has already agreed to the hybrid model with India playing all it's games in Dubai but are adamant on hosting the final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not.

 

[PakFan2010]

So a journalist on ARY is claiming that PCB has already agreed to the hybrid model with India playing all it's games in Dubai but are adamant on hosting the final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not.

That seems reasonable.

Sensible stuff from the PCB.

If India want to forfeit a final, that is up to them.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

They kill our jawans so we won’t allow our team to travel to Pakistan or play a bilateral series.

But, we’re more than happy to play them in an ICC event outside of Pakistan even if it’s hosted by Pakistan because our support for our jawans is conditional.

It’s fun to watch some of these posters run away when it comes to their hypocrisy of playing Pakistan

 

[uppercut]

Quite, which is why India will get their way

Any normal sensible person that thinks rationally will see India are in the wrong but where money is involved that makes no difference

So what is the root cause of this dispute in your opinion ?

 

[HalBass9]

So a journalist on ARY is claiming that PCB has already agreed to the hybrid model with India playing all it's games in Dubai but are adamant on hosting the final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not.

The Pakistani establishment has no option but to serve its masters. The Western world’s objective is to position India as an alternative to China in the region, making it essential that India not appear unreasonable or bigoted. Any actions that might damage this image are therefore untenable.

It has been widely understood that the Indian government would not soften its stance on anti-Indian Muslim, annti- Muslim annd anti-Pakistani rhetoric. Following the last elections, the BJP faced criticism from the Hindutva movement for not fully embracing the Hindutva narrative.

 

[Savak]

Looks like the PCB and Pakistan Govt has decided to gamble on the fact that the ICC is heavily dependent on the revenue to be earned from the Indo Pak contests in these ICC events which make up 60-70% of the ICC revenues.

For e.g. the ICC earned $42 million from the ICC T-20 WC in the USA, West Indies in 2024 out of which the Pakistan India match alone earned $25 million, the remainder of the matches earned only $17 million. The PCB is gambling that by threatening to boycott playing India in future ICC events and to avoid touring India for future ICC events, the ICC revenue share of all the member countries will be negatively impacted including the PCB and all the other members will put pressure on the ICC and BCCI to meet PCB's demands.

The BCCI will have to sacrifice their pockets to reimburse everyone involved

 

[Cricket Warrior]

They kill our jawans so we won’t allow our team to travel to Pakistan or play a bilateral series.

But, we’re more than happy to play them in an ICC event outside of Pakistan even if it’s hosted by Pakistan because our support for our jawans is conditional.

It’s fun to watch some of these posters run away when it comes to their hypocrisy of playing Pakistan

would love to hear a sensible answer of this post from my Indian friends.

 

[TheSultan]

I don’t understand why the BCCI is pushing for a hybrid model. If we don’t want to participate, that’s fine; let’s sit. No one is forcing us to travel and take the risk. We can’t take away Pakistan’s hosting rights, let them conduct the tournament with other countries. I don’t like this unnecessary fuss.

Finally a logical and sane take.

I don’t understand why so many other Indians are jumping up and down creating drama.

 

[TheSultan]

So a journalist on ARY is claiming that PCB has already agreed to the hybrid model with India playing all it's games in Dubai but are adamant on hosting the final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not.

I can get behind that as long as Pakistan don’t travel to India for the group game. Forfeit if you need to.

 

[Vikram1989]

Quit lying.

MSN

@Aang_The_last_airbender bro have posted broadcaster stats, why can't u answer that post ?

 

[U$ofA]

What I don't get is picking and choosing which sporting teams you send to Pakistan.

Surely is security is the reason, then you don't send any of your sporting teams there.

As hypocritical as this is, even more bad a situation is letting BCCI do this.

I mean it's like BCCI throwing it's toys out of the pram, and everyone is climbing over each other to put the toys back, so BCCI can do it all over again.

So, why would the BCCI change anything? They are getting their way. It is human nature not to. If change is desired, it has to come from the other side.

 

[Giroux28]

That seems reasonable.

Sensible stuff from the PCB.

If India want to forfeit a final, that is up to them.

Maybe PCB also negotiate a deal with the ICC to be awarded joint hosts with India and Sri Lanka for the WC T20 in 2026.

Pakistan get to host WC group matches in their fully renovated stadiums and possibly one of the knockouts.

The final will be played in India and just like CT24, Pakistan will have the option to play or forfeit the final. *should they qualify.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

We have given every opportunity to Pakistan to improve things. Vajpayee went to Pakistan with a peace deal, got backstabbed with Kargil war. Musharraf was invited and was offered a peace deal but we got backstabbed with 26/11. PM Modi went to Nawaz Shareef granddaughter wedding and got backstabbed with Pulwama terror attack.

Every time we offer peace, the dictatorship in Pakistan has backstabbed us.

You brought the situation to this point, not us. We sent our cricket team multiple times to Pakistan from 2004-2010

india last toured Pakistan in 2006 for a bilateral series.

india s last visit to Pakistan was the 2008 Asia cup.

Pakistan has been to india from 2012 - 13 bilateral as well as ICC tournaments.

The least you can do is be honest.

Its been one way traffic as far as Pakistan is concerned not india.

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

@Aang_The_last_airbender bro have
posted broadcaster stats.why can't u answer that post ?

Of course I've answered it.

The article debunks it.

Logic dictates that is the reason why the ICC pairs these two teams for every event.

 

[Vikram1989]

Of course I've answered it.

The article debunks it.

Logic dictates that is the reason why the ICC pairs these two teams for every event.

What exactly u answered apart from saying" stop lying".how the article can debunk itself what it is saying.it says match was less viewers than a nz league match by 80 lakhs.. Have u read the second post with stats from broadcaster.u just answered to him with out even checking

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

What I don't get is picking and choosing which sporting teams you send to Pakistan.

Surely is security is the reason, then you don't send any of your sporting teams there.

How can it be a security reason when all the other countries are travelling.

Its the hinduvta BJP reason.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

So what is the root cause of this dispute in your opinion ?

You tell me, I just know it's strange refusing to allow the cricket team to play, at least if all sporting contests were banned you can understand the consistent approach but that isn't the case

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

What exactly u answered apart from saying" stop lying".how the article can debunk itself what it is saying.it says match was less viewers than a nz league match by 80 lakhs.. Have u read the second post with stats from broadcaster.u just answered to him with out even checking

He s chatting breeze.

The NZ v ind match he must be referring to was the world Test championship which had 130.6 million views.

The PK v ind super 12 game had 167 million views.

Pakistan v india matches features 6 times in the Top 10 most viewed cricket matches ever.

The 10 Most Watched Cricket Matches of All Time

The 2011 ICC Men’s T20 World Cup tops the list with 558 million global viewers. Here is the full list of the most watched cricket matches.

frontofficesports.com

 

[HalBass9]

The Pakistan Cricket Board should finally grant Hindutva its long-held wish: to avoid playing against Pakistan in cricket, the one sport where this rivalry truly takes center stage.

It is time for Pakistan to assist Hindutva in achieving what the Indian government and the BCCI have been reluctant to accomplish—selectively choosing when to engage with Pakistan in sports, while appearing to disregard and disrespect their own fallen citizens.

As Muslim converts, it is the least Pakistan could do to honor our ancestral ties.

 

[JaDed]

He s chatting breeze.

The NZ v ind match he must be referring to was the world Test championship which had 130.6 million views.

The PK v ind super 12 game had 167 million views.

Pakistan v india matches features 6 times in the Top 10 most viewed cricket matches ever.

The 10 Most Watched Cricket Matches of All Time

The 2011 ICC Men’s T20 World Cup tops the list with 558 million global viewers. Here is the full list of the most watched cricket matches.

frontofficesports.com

And India featured in 10 of those games.. India’s position might be wrong but if even WTC makes such high numbers then clearly it’s not only the Pak, India game that matters.

 

[TheSultan]

I can safely say a lot of Indian posters have exposed themselves on this thread

On the other hand much respect to @Cover Drive Six and @JaDed for keeping a good balanced take

 

[uppercut]

would love to hear a sensible answer of this post from my Indian friends.

I agree with what the poster is saying. However there is no official clarity from the Indian govt on why they take this stand. The only explanation is that it is aimed at not letting Pakistan profit and keep the relationship at arms length. IIRC we also do some bare minimum trade with Pakistan. So while it is not perfect there is atleast some level of pushback.

They kill our jawans so we won’t allow our team to travel to Pakistan or play a bilateral series.

But, we’re more than happy to play them in an ICC event outside of Pakistan even if it’s hosted by Pakistan because our support for our jawans is conditional.

It’s fun to watch some of these posters run away when it comes to their hypocrisy of playing Pakistan

 

[uppercut]

You tell me, I just know it's strange refusing to allow the cricket team to play, at least if all sporting contests were banned you can understand the consistent approach but that isn't the case

so basically no apparant reason ? India just randomly decided to not Play against pak . Thats your assessment... Correct?

 

[zn426]

Go ahead. Arrange the 200mn USD or so.

Not Pakistan's responsibility. ICC will just have to withhold India's share of fees for a while

 

[Vikram1989]

He s chatting breeze.

The NZ v ind match he must be referring to was the world Test championship which had 130.6 million views.

The PK v ind super 12 game had 167 million views.

Pakistan v india matches features 6 times in the Top 10 most viewed cricket matches ever.

The 10 Most Watched Cricket Matches of All Time

The 2011 ICC Men’s T20 World Cup tops the list with 558 million global viewers. Here is the full list of the most watched cricket matches.

frontofficesports.com

All the matches viewership number was Indian viewers for odi wc 23.Its different from global views .It's the number of Indian user's watching that live game .Indian audience watching that live game for other matches number is far more than an ind vs pak match.


Even the Indian TV broadcasting stats says so.

Biggest Cricket World Cup ever smashes Broadcast and Digital records

www.icc-cricket.com

I have serious doubts about the article u posted .it says india vs pakistan 2019 t20 wc match and 2015 t20 wc.Article writer even dont know that is odi wc.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Yaaaaaawwwwwnnnn!!!! Same boring discussions for years now. It will be hybrid and Pak will travel to India next time an ICC event is held there. If Pakistan decides to break this tradition and wants to host it without India or not participate and deny revenues to ICC, it will impact all other boards more than BCCI. This will just result in other boards not supporting Pak when the hosting rights comes up next time.

Best course of action woukd be just agree on hybrid and host it now. Later work to build financial muscle to challenge BCCI, good luck with that

 

[masterblaster]

I don’t know why but I have a feeling that India might propose something along the lines of India playing against Pakistan in Pakistan, with the condition that the Indian team does not stay in the country but instead travels to the stadium from Chandigarh. Additionally, all remaining matches involving India, including the semifinals and final (if India qualifies), should take place outside of Pakistan. This proposal may be acceptable to Pakistan

 

[Devadwal]

So a journalist on ARY is claiming that PCB has already agreed to the hybrid model with India playing all it's games in Dubai but are adamant on hosting the final in Pakistan whether India qualifies or not.

One Semifinal and the final will be played in UAE weather india qualified for final or not it doesn't matter .

This is the truth and Pakistan will accept it after few days crying just to satisfied domestic Audiance .

 

[HalBass9]

One Semifinal and the final will be played in UAE weather india qualified for final or not it doesn't matter .

This is the truth and Pakistan will accept it after few days crying just to satisfied domestic Audiance .

lol. Domestic audience is criticising the PCB and Pak government for not standing up to the ICC.

Read before start making childish comments. Don’t confuse Pakistani with Hindutva of India.

 

[Devadwal]

lol. Domestic audience is criticising the PCB and Pak government for not standing up to the ICC.

Read before start making childish comments. Don’t confuse Pakistani with Hindutva of India.

That was I talking about. PCB later can say ,look we were standing against ICC decision but our views were not heard.

 

[offstump]

I don’t know why but I have a feeling that India might propose something along the lines of India playing against Pakistan in Pakistan, with the condition that the Indian team does not stay in the country but instead travels to the stadium from Chandigarh. Additionally, all remaining matches involving India, including the semifinals and final (if India qualifies), should take place outside of Pakistan. This proposal may be acceptable to Pakistan

This was already proposed by Pakistan and rejected by India

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I get it Pakistan is in trouble because India pulled out.

Why are Indian posters so ecstatic though?

 

[HalBass9]

That was I talking about. PCB later can say ,look we were standing against ICC decision but our views were not heard.

lol. What? Yea, almost every Pakistani knows that.

So who is that domestic audience? lol

 

[chakdeindian]

They kill our jawans so we won’t allow our team to travel to Pakistan or play a bilateral series.

But, we’re more than happy to play them in an ICC event outside of Pakistan even if it’s hosted by Pakistan because our support for our jawans is conditional.

It’s fun to watch some of these posters run away when it comes to their hypocrisy of playing Pakistan

Not traveling to Pakistan is not about Army Jawans but about players security and a form of protest against terrorist infiltration from your country.. Indian govt don't stop playing Indian team against Pakistan, but there is a high risk involved sending Indian cricketers to your country considering the frequent terrorism activities and unstable geopolitical situation..The question you might ask how is other sports team of India are travelling..Again it's about the popularity of the game and players..for both India and Pakistan other than cricket and hockey, no other sports dwell the attention of people and media..i came to know about other sports team travelling to pak through this forum only..for them the security arrangements can be managed and for these sports India is not in negotiating position and these players only get limited opportunities..whereas in cricket Indian players are super stars and crowd pullers..BCCI is the strongest board..There is a high risk involved considering the geopolitical scenarios.. Also Pakistan has stopped trade with India post article 365 abrogation. Indian govt don't want Pakistan to directly benefit financially by sending Indian team..this is a tactical move similar to ban of Pak players, but they hire players of Pak origin from other countries..The effect of deserting Pakistan is already evident with PCB incurring huge financial loss and the pay scale difference of players between the two countries.. Pakistan can try to show their spine but it only will burn them more..it's like mosquito bite..It may affect the person who it bit by causing some disease or not, but mosquito will die..

 

[Devadwal]

According to a journalist PCB chief asked Pakistan journalist to comes to Lahore and ordered them to spread the news about Pakistan will not participate in next ICC tournaments in india or boycott the champion trophy etc .

It was done just to pressurized india but nothing else. And this hoex is not change the indian stances .

Champion trophy will held in hybrid model .end of discussion.

Pakistan emotional fans are hoping for PCB to take a taught stand but they don't know PCB gave empty threats.

@DeadlyVenom watch this video ( from 35 min) of Waseem Badami show . Pakistan journalist said same thing's on air.

 

[Itachi]

I am surprised it has gone to 10 pages....

In our gully cricket, if someone says he won't play in someone's courtyard, then we just remove him from the team.

ICC should do too.

Remove BCCI from the picture and go ahead with as per schedule. If compensation is required, then demand it from BCCI (whether BCCI agrees or not is a different matter).

PCB should request ICC to kick BCCI out. That should be the primary stance of PCB morally/ethically after BCCI has said no.

ICC and PCB both should have some self respect.

 

[chakdeindian]

I am surprised it has gone to 10 pages....

In our gully cricket, if someone says he won't play in someone's courtyard, then we just remove him from the team.

ICC should do too.

Remove BCCI from the picture and go ahead with as per schedule. If compensation is required, then demand it from BCCI (whether BCCI agrees or not is a different matter).

PCB should request ICC to kick BCCI out. That should be the primary stance of PCB morally/ethically after BCCI has said no.

ICC and PCB both should have some self respect.

.here Pakistan is putting all efforts just wanting to bring Indian team to Pak and earn some moolah..seems you are considering pak cricket team equivalent to Gully cricket team..

 

[Devadwal]

I am surprised it has gone to 10 pages....

In our gully cricket, if someone says he won't play in someone's courtyard, then we just remove him from the team.

ICC should do too.

But you are forgotting the basics rule of gully cricket .

If someone dont want to play in gully cricket, thats fine but what that someone who has own bat and ball but refused to Play ?

All other players ask him with both join hand " Bro your batting will come first and you will also bowl the first over."

Now compared that situation to current situation . You will get your answer .

 

[Dr_Bassim]

One team said they wont come.

Cricket will not die without India.

ICC should convince every other team about potential less windfall because of India pulling out.

Then invite Sri Lanka and make it happen.

Forget India.

They can take their tantrums to their prams and cry all year.

 

[Itachi]

But you are forgotting the basics rule of gully cricket .

If someone dont want to play in gully cricket, thats fine but what that someone who has own bat and ball but refused to Play ?

All other players ask him with both join hand " Bro your batting will come first and you will also bowl the first over."

Now compared that situation to current situation . You will get your answer .

I haven't forgotten actually.

If ICC and PCB can't bring the bat and bowl; then it is evident that these minions will have to bow down to their master. No more hosting in Pakistan in near future alongwith prior approval from BCCI to host any multinational tournament.

 

[Sanzcool]

One team said they wont come.

Cricket will not die without India.

ICC should convince every other team about potential less windfall because of India pulling out.

Then invite Sri Lanka and make it happen.

Forget India.

They can take their tantrums to their prams and cry all year.

Meh, most of the ICT fans aren't crying, why don't your board grow a pair and refuse to accept the hybrid model

 

[uppercut]

One team said they wont come.

Cricket will not die without India.

ICC should convince every other team about potential less windfall because of India pulling out.

Then invite Sri Lanka and make it happen.

Forget India.

They can take their tantrums to their prams and cry all year.

And then you woke up from your dream and the rude reality of life welcomed you !

 

[Vikram1989]

I haven't forgotten actually.

If ICC and PCB can't bring the bat and bowl;

As @cricketjoshila bro explained in earlier posts,both will cost 200 million usd.They can do whatever they can in that case

 

[Dr_Bassim]

And then you woke up from your dream and the rude reality of life welcomed you !

I dont know about you but if you ever did grade school, there always used to be a bully.

The best way to move forward?

Dont engage the bully.

Gradually the bully used to become lost in time.

That is the true reality.

Lest you forget.

 

[Devadwal]

One team said they wont come.

Cricket will not die without India.

ICC should convince every other team about potential less windfall because of India pulling out.

Then invite Sri Lanka and make it happen.

Forget India.

They can take their tantrums to their prams and cry all year.

ECB already said that without india no champion trophy will happened. Maybe you read some news except pakistan media .

no other team will support Pakistan if there will be voting for hosting champions trophy without india.

WITHOUT INDIA NO ICC TOURNAMENTS WILL HAPPEN ATLEAST FOR NEXT 10 YEARS .

 

[Dr_Bassim]

ECB already said that without india no champion trophy will happened. Maybe you read some news except pakistan media .

no other team will support Pakistan if there will be voting for hosting champions trophy without india.

WITHOUT INDIA NO ICC TOURNAMENTS WILL HAPPEN ATLEAST FOR NEXT 10 YEARS .

Refer to post 774.

Then enjoy an early dinner.

Or lunch, based on time.

 

[Itachi]

I dont know about you but if you ever did grade school, there always used to be a bully.

The best way to move forward?

Dont engage the bully.

Gradually the bully used to become lost in time.

That is the true reality.

Lest you forget.

I won't call it bullying here.

BCCI just stated they won't play in Pakistan. On the contrary, ICC and PCB both are crying victim yet following the same trend because of their own benefits.

Both side have their own interests involved.

 

[Devadwal]

Refer to post 774.

Then enjoy an early dinner.

Or lunch, based on time.

First become self dependent instead begging than everybody will respect you .

PCB used to bully BCCI when they had more power and more stronger team ,that's why they were refused to Play in Hero cup just prior to tournament but now time has changed .

Fact is pakistan cricket surviving because of ICC revenues they gets.

So don't Play victims cards .

 

[Suleiman]

BCCI hiding behind ICC as usual. This pathetic snitch mentality will leak into the team as well. All good. Pick whatever venue. in India, Pakistan, England, Uganda, Moon, Mars, Candyland, wherever, this new age Pakistan is about to crash this fragile Indian team in every format and tournament. Save this post.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Basit Ali speaking on his YouTube channel:

"Do you remember that in the 1996 World Cup Sri Lanka got 2-2 points after West Indies and Australia did not go? Try to put India and Pakistan in different pools, the ICC will refuse. Pakistan and India are always in the same pool because of money. If there is a hybrid model and India doesn't visit Pakistan, give Pakistan two points. It has happened before too, so try it now."

"Pakistan should play all their matches in Pakistan. It is as simple as that. Pakistan should not participate if the Champions Trophy is taken from them and conducted in some other country. People are saying that the ICC will ban Pakistan if they don't participate. Try to ban Pakistan if you have the courage. Everyone will lose their sleep."

 

[Itachi]

Basit Ali speaking on his YouTube channel:

"Do you remember that in the 1996 World Cup Sri Lanka got 2-2 points after West Indies and Australia did not go? Try to put India and Pakistan in different pools, the ICC will refuse. Pakistan and India are always in the same pool because of money. If there is a hybrid model and India doesn't visit Pakistan, give Pakistan two points. It has happened before too, so try it now."

"Pakistan should play all their matches in Pakistan. It is as simple as that. Pakistan should not participate if the Champions Trophy is taken from them and conducted in some other country. People are saying that the ICC will ban Pakistan if they don't participate. Try to ban Pakistan if you have the courage. Everyone will lose their sleep."

The thing is, BCCI isn't even objecting to give away points. It simply doesn't want to come to Pakistan.

 

[Devadwal]

BCCI hiding behind ICC as usual. This pathetic snitch mentality will leak into the team as well. All good. Pick whatever venue. in India, Pakistan, England, Uganda, Moon, Mars, Candyland, wherever, this new age Pakistan is about to crash this fragile Indian team in every format and tournament. Save this post.

Nice .take the revenge on the field and this is best way to shut the indian fans like me

But what is new age pakistan team ? Has they change the Age of babar , Shaheen etc .

 

[uppercut]

I dont know about you but if you ever did grade school, there always used to be a bully.

The best way to move forward?

Dont engage the bully.

Gradually the bully used to become lost in time.

That is the true reality.

Lest you forget.

Except that the real bully here is the Govt of Pakistan that is well known to use rogue policies to further their policies/agenda.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Yes but that was ages ago. A lot of disgusting things have happened on Indian soil in the past.

Should we use this as an excuse to not travel to India

Why should you decide what Pakistanis should do based on what I advise you?
That is Pakistan's problem where they want to go and do not want to go. Whether they show some ghairat and stop wasting time on those who do not want to come, or they want to keep whining , it is their choice.

 

[cricketjoshila]

One team said they wont come.

Cricket will not die without India.

ICC should convince every other team about potential less windfall because of India pulling out.

Then invite Sri Lanka and make it happen.

Forget India.

They can take their tantrums to their prams and cry all year.

Why should every other team agree to lose millions, so that Pakistan can host a few matches?

 

[cricketjoshila]

What I don't get is picking and choosing which sporting teams you send to Pakistan.

Surely is security is the reason, then you don't send any of your sporting teams there.

There are recognised national federations and regular national teams. These usually work as per govt policies.

Individuals or unrecognised federations or non regular teams dont.

The security threat to a high profile cricket team playing in front of 25-30k people and some low profile sporting event watched by a few 100 isn't same.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan is the host of the CT 2025. India has refused to travel. What can an honourable solution so that India also plays and Pakistan also doesn't lose face.

Throw India out isn't going to work because of the financial implications.

Removing Pakistan entirely as hosts will be unfair.

 

[shah_1]

Pakistan should be financially compensated fairly for India not playing in Pakistan and also missing out on one semi final and final in Pakistan because of India

It is a economic loss for Pakistan

 

[Giroux28]

Pakistan is the host of the CT 2025. India has refused to travel. What can an honourable solution so that India also plays and Pakistan also doesn't lose face.

Throw India out isn't going to work because of the financial implications.

Removing Pakistan entirely as hosts will be unfair.

Hybrid.

India and Pakistan in different groups.

India play all it's matches in UAE.

Pakistan play all it's matches at home

One semifinal in Pakistan

One semifinal in UAE

Final will remain in Pakistan

If India qualifies for the final. They fly from Dubai, play the match and leave the same evening.

 

[Devadwal]

After India's refusal to play in Pakistan, ICC has sought a response from PCB on the Hybrid Model for Champions Trophy.

If Pakistan Cricket Board doesn't agree then the entire Champion Trophy 2025 is likely to be shifted to South Africa.

In simple words this is strong warning to PCB by ICC . And wait for few days when PCB will agree for the hybrid models.

I already said whatever was PCB saying is totally empty threats which no one take seriously aparts from Pakistan fan's.

 

[BlindingLight]

Pakistan is the host of the CT 2025. India has refused to travel. What can an honourable solution so that India also plays and Pakistan also doesn't lose face.

Throw India out isn't going to work because of the financial implications.

Removing Pakistan entirely as hosts will be unfair.

BCCI and "honourable" do not belong in the same sentence mate.

 

[Giroux28]

After India's refusal to play in Pakistan, ICC has sought a response from PCB on the Hybrid Model for Champions Trophy.

If Pakistan Cricket Board doesn't agree then the entire Champion Trophy 2025 is likely to be shifted to South Africa.

In simple words this is strong warning to PCB by ICC . And wait for few days when PCB will agree for the hybrid models.

I already said whatever was PCB saying is totally empty threats which no one take seriously aparts from Pakistan fan's.

There is no legit source reporting such news other than Indian youtube channels.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

I would rather South Africa than a stupid hybrid model just to cater to a child throwing its toys out of pram.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Why should every other team agree to lose millions, so that Pakistan can host a few matches?

Why should the tournament be at mercy of Indian crybabies?

 

[Devadwal]

I would rather South Africa than a stupid hybrid model just to cater to a child throwing its toys out of pram.

Then what will be happen to Pakistan prestige which Pakistan fans were talking about if they play champion trophy entirely outside Pakistan ?

 

[U$ofA]

Not Pakistan's responsibility. ICC will just have to withhold India's share of fees for a while

Really? Looking back at the track record of the ICC towards the BCCI gives me no reason to believe that they will do anything even remotely close what you are saying.

 

[U$ofA]

One team said they wont come.

Cricket will not die without India.

ICC should convince every other team about potential less windfall because of India pulling out.

Then invite Sri Lanka and make it happen.

Forget India.

They can take their tantrums to their prams and cry all year.

If the ICC had been proactive/planning/motivation to kick India out and bring in SL, they would have done it months ago.

But they chose to be reactive. I am sure, knowing very well that BCCI would do this. They just chose to kick the can down the road. Hence we have the current situation.

 

[BouncerGuy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1855895640523362322

 

[U$ofA]

I would rather South Africa than a stupid hybrid model just to cater to a child throwing its toys out of pram.

Sure, BCCI throwing it's toys out of the pram is a problem. But just as big a problem is the ICC and the boards jumping over each other to put the toys back in so BCCI can do it all over again!

 

[U$ofA]

Why should the tournament be at mercy of Indian crybabies?

Correct. It shouldn't. But ICC is making it so.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why should the tournament be at mercy of Indian crybabies?

It should not be. It would not be. If other boards together didn't contribute only 10-15 per cent of the total revenue.

 

[adi_62941]

According to the hybrid model, Pakistan will only host 6 group matches and one semifinal. Anything beyond that is completely impractical and unfeasible. Anyone suggesting that the final could be held in Pakistan under this model is ignoring logistical realities, even if India does not reach the final, due to various other factors.

The best course of action for the PCB is to adopt the hybrid model if it lacks the leverage to push for more. This would allow them to retain the hosting rights and secure the associated financial benefits. After the tournament, the PCB can assess whether Pakistan should continue playing against India in ICC events. They could consider forfeiting matches against India in ICC tournaments and request the ICC to schedule Pakistan’s matches outside of India. PCB could consult with the Pakistan government to avoid travel to India or playing India directly