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[Report] ICC informs the PCB that India has refused to travel to Pakistan for the ICC Champions Trophy 2025 [Updated Post #418]

Local.Dada said:
Is it the word you are upset with? POK or “Azaad” Kashmir whatever you want to call it is a disputed territory and its clearly done to provoke India which is already citing diplomatic reasons to not travel.

You need to ask who are the geniuses running PCB?

I will apologize on behalf of BCCI if “pok” is the deal breaker here but again you guys are focusing on the wrong thing yet again.

If PCB really wanted Indian team to travel, the reach out should have happened during WT20 in USA when both Jay Shah and PCB chairman were there.
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This is called Propaganda. Purposefully using words and narratives to stir up the pot. Effectively gaslighting the masses.
 
FearlessRoar said:

ICC cancels Champions Trophy tour in 3 cities in POK day after Pak board's announcement​


The International Cricket Council (ICC) has cancelled the tour of the Champions Trophy in the in cities Skardu, Hunza and Mazafarabad which fall in the territory of Pakistan occupied Kashmir (POK). Notably, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had announced a nationwide trophy tour of the Champions Trophy from November 16 to 24.

The eight-team tournament is set to be held in Pakistan in February-March 2025 and to build up for the cricketing extravaganza, the PCB had organized the trophy tour. However, India Today has learnt that the trophy tour has been cancelled in the cities falling under the disputed land of the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK).

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ICC cancels Champions Trophy tour in 3 cities in POK day after Pak board’s announcement

The ICC has canceled the Champions Trophy trophy tour in Skardu, Murree, and Muzaffarabad, areas located in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK). This decision follows a swift response to an announcement made by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) the previous day. The Board of Control for Cricket in...
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Now all other cricket boards will know where is Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

Its backfired badly .
 
Dear BCCI and ICC,
Is this the International Cricket Council or the India-Controls-Cricket council? Hosting a tournament shouldn't feel like an episode of Game of Thrones. If India has issues traveling to Pakistan, maybe they should just play their matches on Zoom—at least that way, the internet lag will be the only thing slower than ICC's decision-making!
 
And Dear so called BCCI and ICC,
Why not just let BCCI host every tournament forever and rename the sport to 'Indi-ball'? Clearly, cricket is just a subplot in the saga of power politics! And ICC, if you're going to keep bending over backwards, might as well invest in a good chiropractor—carrying all that BCCI weight must be exhausting.

Meanwhile, Pakistan, how about hosting a Cricket Peace Summit? Winner gets the trophy, and the loser has to explain why cricket can’t be cricket anymore. Just imagine—actual cricket solving global issues faster than the ICC can schedule a meeting!"
 
Local.Dada said:
Is it the word you are upset with? POK or “Azaad” Kashmir whatever you want to call it is a disputed territory and its clearly done to provoke India which is already citing diplomatic reasons to not travel.

You need to ask who are the geniuses running PCB?

I will apologize on behalf of BCCI if “pok” is the deal breaker here but again you guys are focusing on the wrong thing yet again.

If PCB really wanted Indian team to travel, the reach out should have happened during WT20 in USA when both Jay Shah and PCB chairman were there.
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We don't really care about indian team travelling to pakistan, we don't give a toss we are more concerned about running a tournament in Pakistan with or without india.

Weather we hold it in Skardu, Hunza, Mazafarabad or lahore it's none of your concern
Since you don't want to travel to Pakistan

Issue Is india don't want to travel to Pakistan but still yet crying their eyes out that they want to play in the tournament.
 
emranabbas said:
We don't really care about indian team travelling to pakistan, we don't give a toss we are more concerned about running a tournament in Pakistan with or without india.

Weather we hold it in Skardu, Hunza, Mazafarabad or lahore it's none of your concern
Since you don't want to travel to Pakistan

Issue Is india don't want to travel to Pakistan but still yet crying their eyes out that they want to play in the tournament.
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Where India or BCCI stated it? Can you provide the source?
 
emranabbas said:
We don't really care about indian team travelling to pakistan, we don't give a toss we are more concerned about running a tournament in Pakistan with or without india.

Weather we hold it in Skardu, Hunza, Mazafarabad or lahore it's none of your concern
Since you don't want to travel to Pakistan

Issue Is india don't want to travel to Pakistan but still yet crying their eyes out that they want to play in the tournament.
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India will play the tournament with or without Pak and won’t travel to Pak. Rest all is rhetoric and waste of time.

Feel free to bookmark this and appreciate my foresight in about a couple of months.

Nothing more to say here :)
 
Itachi said:
You are the one who is complaining about bullying.

if I look at past posts in both the threads, I see similar posts which later either got deleted or edited out.

When you are complaining about the same that you are dishing out to others, that actually makes you a hypocrite.
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Yes because it's you Indians who are starting it your lot are purely here to take the mickey out of pakistan. I have nothing against indians but if you Indians are going take a mickey out of Pakistan then I'm going to reply in the same tone.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Best bet for Pakistan is to stick with their stance and have a firm policy in place that no game against India if CT25 will not happen completely in Pakistan.

Without India v Pakistan game the broadcaster will be under the pump cause they had signed to pay $3 Billion. They will call ICC and ICC will simply tell all the boards they can't pay money. BCCI will not have any problem cause they are rich. CA, ECB and PCB will also survive but it's the rest of boards that will get shockwaves from this. The stockholders will be on to have the India v Pakistan game happen cause this will not only stay like this for one event. Potentially Pakistan can refuse to then play India or in India for future ICC Tournaments.
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agreeing to Hybrid model and then forfeiting the Indian Game remains best possible option for PCB and GOP
 
First time no one really cares who will win the CT, topic is about will India travel to Pak. Shows the value of this useless tournament. Scrap it and end this tamasha. Easy solution.
 
emranabbas said:
Whose non one? Indians
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Yes and that’s what really matters when it comes to cricket because world does revolve around India in cricket context. Bitter pill to swallow I know but it’s the harsh truth.

26/11 happened in India- a week later England team came back for odi series.

SL attack happened- Cricket gone from Pak for 7 yrs and all it took a phone call to make England and Nzl run away.

Most countries cricketing wise live on handouts given by BCCI and it’s a lot of money due to the capable corporates and personnel at BCCI.
 
PCB should agree to Hybrid model and try to negotiate for Final in Pakistan. If Indian concerns regarding security are real , PCB can say they can manage security of Indian Team for just one day. playing a whole tournament in Pakistan and Playing only one day can significantly reduce threat perception , on assumption that written response of BCCI to ICC is going to be a dossier related to security threats
 
RidiculousMan said:
This would be the ultimate punch. However legally speaking this might put Pakistan in trouble latter.
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ICC cannot sanction Pakistan for forfeiting a game. they can only get back at Pakistan through revenue share and reducing it. That will also be contested by PCB. Forfeiture would give signal that Ind vs Pak in icc events are done and dusted. ICC can stop putting Ind and Pak in same group
 
emranabbas said:
Have to act like this when indians like you come here to take the mickey out of Pakistan
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That's where the hypocrisy lies.

I can same about you. I didn't address anything aggressively towards you yet you came up with aggressive words.
 
emranabbas said:
Check all your indian media who are talking about moving tournament to South Africa uae and timbuktu.
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So.... your sources are India media and NOT BCCI?

So whatever media says, the population wants?

Interesting conclusion that you have drawn.
 
Kianig89 said:
So CT may be played in India as per new report.

PCB got cornered from all sides.
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It should be played in India.

If India is that essential, then all the minions should bow down to the master as without the master, all these boards will be like cats lost in a ocean.
 
Itachi said:
It should be played in India.

If India is that essential, then all the minions should bow down to the master as without the master, all these boards will be like cats lost in a ocean.
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IcC will be left eggfaced with this, they trumpeted all along CT 2025 Pakistan, gave funds to PCB for renovation and at the end a complete U-turn
 
Kianig89 said:
IcC will be left eggfaced with this, they trumpeted all along CT 2025 Pakistan, gave funds to PCB for renovation and at the end a complete U-turn
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Simplest solution would have been hybrid model. That way Pak gets to host some marquee games, gets majority funds as the main host, Ind-Pak match happens which makes everyone money and that way everyone is happy.

Proof that ego is the biggest thing in the way of success if they are really trying to push the BCCI.

let’s see who gets eggfaced after this farce.
 
Local.Dada said:
Simplest solution would have been hybrid model. That way Pak gets to host some marquee games, gets majority funds as the main host, Ind-Pak match happens which makes everyone money and that way everyone is happy.

Proof that ego is the biggest thing in the way of success if they are really trying to push the BCCI.

let’s see who gets eggfaced after this farce.
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Definitely ICc the so called governing body will be egg faced, PCB for once has genuine point to hold on. Shame on ICC
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
ICC cannot sanction Pakistan for forfeiting a game. they can only get back at Pakistan through revenue share and reducing it. That will also be contested by PCB. Forfeiture would give signal that Ind vs Pak in icc events are done and dusted. ICC can stop putting Ind and Pak in same group
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What ICC will do, let ICC do.

Let PCB forfeit first.
 
RidiculousMan said:
This would be the ultimate punch. However legally speaking this might put Pakistan in trouble latter.
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I have already explained that PCB can't forfiet the match in UAE against india if they accept the hybrid model.

PCB will face penalty/ Sections .but lets do it than some delusion Pakistan fans will be exposed like PCB .
 
Devadwal said:
I have already explained that PCB can't forfiet the match in UAE against india if they accept the hybrid model.

PCB will face penalty/ Sections .but lets do it than some delusion Pakistan fans will be exposed like PCB .
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Let PCB boycott or forfeit.
 
cricketjoshila said:
PCB even went to court to get a India tour. How desperate!!!!
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So you think going to court is begging? If you don't understand English and it's proper use, perhaps you would be better served sharing your views on a Hindi medium where you could express your views more accurately.
 
Devadwal said:
I have already explained that PCB can't forfiet the match in UAE against india if they accept the hybrid model.

PCB will face penalty/ Sections .but lets do it than some delusion Pakistan fans will be exposed like PCB .
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you have not explained anything

you are yourself making assertions about facing penalty/sanctions without any concrete source to back it up

just because you think so does nt make it the final say on the issue

you can surely point out any such clause in rule books of ICC .
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
So you think going to court is begging? If you don't understand English and it's proper use, perhaps you would be better served sharing your views on a Hindi medium where you could express your views more accurately.
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Trying to force India to tour by going to court is begging.

Before that Najam Sethi and Sharyar Khan had regularly asked India to tour.

Don't worry about my understanding of English.

Worry about the condition of PCB.
 
is it not what we are supposed to hear next from indian media? ICC stops trophy tour in disputed areas. Big win for BCCI.. yeaahh power of india 💪 thats what we are seeing on indian channels right now. because thats the ultimate power shown by India to Pak no doubt 😂
 
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Wasim Ghulam said:
you have not explained anything

you are yourself making assertions about facing penalty/sanctions without any concrete source to back it up

just because you think so does nt make it the final say on the issue

you can surely point out any such clause in rule books of ICC .
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PCB can forfiet Only due to force measure Clause and i explained already how this will not applied for them because they are hosting the champion trophy in hybrid model ( UAE ) . neither is security issue in UAE nor is political.
 
Devadwal said:
PCB can forfiet Only due to force measure Clause and i explained already how this will not applied for them because they are hosting the champion trophy in hybrid model ( UAE ) . neither is security issue in UAE nor is political.
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PCB can forfeit because India refused to tour Pakistan and Government of Pakistan can stop pcb from playing India due to that bringing in force Majeour caluse to play out , But thats not the point. where it is written that forfeiture will result in sanctions? just point out that clause anywhere or any historical evidence or Just Shut up on the matter no?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
PCB can forfeit because India refused to tour Pakistan and Government of Pakistan can stop pcb from playing India due to that bringing in force Majeour caluse to play out , But thats not the point. where it is written that forfeiture will result in sanctions? just point out that clause anywhere or any historical evidence or Just Shut up on the matter no?
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Your first assumption is wrong as PCB is already accept the hybrid model ( we already assume that ) So they cant give this silly excuse like India refused to tour Pakistan.
 
Devadwal said:
Your first assumption is wrong as PCB is already accept the hybrid model ( we already assume that ) So they cant give this silly excuse like India refused to tour Pakistan.
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same like silly excuses of BCCI regarding security issues in Pakistan. who makes that determination which excuse is genuine and which is silly? You? Stop Patronizing
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
same like silly excuses of BCCI regarding security issues in Pakistan. who makes that determination which excuse is genuine and which is silly? You? Stop Patronizing
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You're not making any sence . How can they forfeit when they already agreed on india demand of hybrid model . Think twice than discuss with logic.
 
Devadwal said:
You're not making any sence . How can they forfeit when they already agreed on india demand of hybrid model . Think twice than discuss with logic.
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same way Aus did in 96 and Eng did in 2003. did they pre announce it when schedule was being told to them?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
same way Aus did in 96 and Eng did in 2003. did they pre announce it when schedule was being told to them?
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Did they forfiet becouse other team refused to tour in Australia or England. They were forfiet due to security ( Aus,WI) and political ( ENG) reason. So again saying use some logic.
 
This thread is funny. If I was in India’s position and confident in their power, I’d just sit back and relax.

But it seems our Indian “friends” are very agitated on here! Very strange behaviour. There’s a hint of desperation there.

Very try-hard behaviour. Quite amusing.
 
Devadwal said:
You're not making any sence . How can they forfeit when they already agreed on india demand of hybrid model . Think twice than discuss with logic.
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Any team can forfeit.

Australia and West Indies forfeited SL games in 1996 WC
NZ forfeited Kenya game in 2003 WC
England forfeited Zimbabwe game in 2003 WC

There is no penalty (other than losing points).
 
Devadwal said:
Did they forfiet becouse other team refused to tour in Australia or England. They were forfiet due to security ( Aus,WI) and political ( ENG) reason. So again saying use some logic.
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Pakistan has political issue with India. what are you talking about? India continuously refuse to play Pakistan even at neutral venues in Bilateral. which is clearly a political stance against Pakistan , so Pakistan can also say our Govt refuses to play India. now you will decide which reason is ok and which is not?
 
sweep_shot said:
Any team can forfeit.

Australia and West Indies forfeited SL games in 1996 WC
NZ forfeited Kenya game in 2003 WC
England forfeited Zimbabwe game in 2003 WC

There is no penalty (other than losing points).
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Read all the post from 1235 . I already explained everything.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
same like silly excuses of BCCI regarding security issues in Pakistan. who makes that determination which excuse is genuine and which is silly? You? Stop Patronizing
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The tournament is only for the brave, not for the faint of heart. Probably explains a lot.

The Men’s ICC Champions Trophy
 
TheSultan said:
This thread is funny. If I was in India’s position and confident in their power, I’d just sit back and relax.

But it seems our Indian “friends” are very agitated on here! Very strange behaviour. There’s a hint of desperation there.

Very try-hard behaviour. Quite amusing.
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Some of these Indians act like spokesmen of ICC.

On one hand, they say Pakistan game is not important. On the other hand, they have a lot to say regarding Pakistan-India game. @Devadwal is even saying there would be "sanction" if Pakistan boycott India game. LOL!
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Pakistan has political issue with India. what are you talking about? India continuously refuse to play Pakistan even at neutral venues in Bilateral. which is clearly a political stance against Pakistan , so Pakistan can also say our Govt refuses to play India. now you will decide which reason is ok and which is not?
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Again you're back to initial stages. Pakistan has political issues with india i agree. But they accept the india demend of Hybrid model to play Their match in UAE so how can they forfiet the match in UAE?
 
sweep_shot said:
Some of these Indians act like spokesmen of ICC.

On one hand, they say Pakistan game is not important. On the other hand, they have a lot to say regarding Pakistan-India game. @Devadwal is even saying there would be "sanction" if Pakistan boycott India game. LOL!
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That’s what I don’t get. They are shouting about India’s power, but feel the need to sit on a Pakistani forum acting like angry dudes!
 
Devadwal said:
Again you're back to initial stages. Pakistan has political issues with india i agree. But they accept the india demend of Hybrid model to play Their match in UAE so how can they forfiet the match in UAE?
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PCB does nt have to pre announce it. GOP can issue instructions and PCb can simply say Sorry ICC not our doing
 
sweep_shot said:
Some of these Indians act like spokesmen of ICC.

On one hand, they say Pakistan game is not important. On the other hand, they have a lot to say regarding Pakistan-India game. @Devadwal is even saying there would be "sanction" if Pakistan boycott India game. LOL!
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If you had some knowledge about how things works then you would have not said this. Ok continue living in your own delusion World. This would make you feel very happy. :kp
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
ICC cannot sanction Pakistan for forfeiting a game. they can only get back at Pakistan through revenue share and reducing it. That will also be contested by PCB. Forfeiture would give signal that Ind vs Pak in icc events are done and dusted. ICC can stop putting Ind and Pak in same group
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It's not ICC. It's the Broadcasters. They'll push for it legally if a stunt like that is pull.

I don't think Pakistan needs to go this extreme. They just have to stick to their stance and reject Ind v Pak game if it's not happening here in Pakistan like the rest of CT25.
 
Feels like Twilight in a weird way everyone knew she will be with Edward and yet everyone keeps hoping Jake Jake.
Yes yes it’s definitely the worst movie ever, and BCCI ICC PCB is a better love story.
 
Devadwal said:
www.espn.in

Champions Trophy: PCB approaches Pakistan government after India rule out travelling

The PCB has adopted a more rigid stance on its hosting of the tournament, ruling out a hybrid model format | ESPN.in
www.espn.in www.espn.in

Koi Bhai ko Pani pilao yar. :dw
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oh bhai its news. agreeing on hybrid model will be pcb decision , they are not gonna put a tag their heads that we have discussed it with GOP. icc will throw back news excerpts to counter it? BCCI can pull out on last minute of schedule announcement to not travel to Pak , citing GOI refusal but PCB cant do it on match day? what world are you living in?
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
oh bhai its news. agreeing on hybrid model will be pcb decision , they are not gonna put a tag their heads that we have discussed it with GOP. icc will throw back news excerpts to counter it? BCCI can pull out on last minute of schedule announcement to not travel to Pak , citing GOI refusal but PCB cant do it on match day? what world are you living in?
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Every boards host the tournament after government approval .basic rules.

Enough from my side .no point disscusion when you're always in denials
 
Devadwal said:
Every boards host the tournament after government approval .basic rules.

Enough from my side .no point disscusion when you're always in denials
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you are coming up with new theories.

PCB is independent body and its decision of pcb in member’s meeting of icc. they can agree to hybrid model. Govt can refuse to play india later on. PCB can say we tried but Govt refused. thats what bcci just did on eve of schedule announcement. PCB gave tentative schedule in last board meetings of icc and it clearly stated Ind matches in Lahore. no official objection was raised by BCCI that let us ask GOI first. infact they kept silence which means Nod was given

ICC will contest pcb claim that you knew? are they asking BCCI that you knew about your Government? Duh
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
you are coming up with new theories.

PCB is independent body and its decision of pcb in member’s meeting of icc. they can agree to hybrid model. Govt can refuse to play india later on. PCB can say we tried but Govt refused. thats what bcci just did on eve of schedule announcement. PCB gave tentative schedule in last board meetings of icc and it clearly stated Ind matches in Lahore. no official objection was raised by BCCI that let us ask GOI first. infact they kept silence which means Nod was given

ICC will contest pcb claim that you knew? are they asking BCCI that you knew about your Government? Duh
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Prime Minister of Pakistan is the Patron of the PCB . :kp
 
Devadwal said:
Prime Minister of Pakistan is the Patron of the PCB . :kp
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again ICC will say this to PCB chairman? its not necessary that what you think is same that icc will do. Decision will come from Foreign affairs ministry. Plenty of ways to deflect that. Right now its PCB chair prerogative to make calls for PCB in ICC not Patron of PCB
 
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RidiculousMan said:
It's not ICC. It's the Broadcasters. They'll push for it legally if a stunt like that is pull.

I don't think Pakistan needs to go this extreme. They just have to stick to their stance and reject Ind v Pak game if it's not happening here in Pakistan like the rest of CT25.
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there is no agreement between Broadcasters and PCB.. any legal battle initiated by broadcasters will be between them and icc
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
PCB can forfeit because India refused to tour Pakistan and Government of Pakistan can stop pcb from playing India due to that bringing in force Majeour caluse to play out , But thats not the point. where it is written that forfeiture will result in sanctions? just point out that clause anywhere or any historical evidence or Just Shut up on the matter no?
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ICC can also stop Pakistan from playing ICC events if Pakistan starts forfeiting matches.

Show where its written ICC cannot do so.
 
cricketjoshila said:
ICC can also stop Pakistan from playing ICC events if Pakistan starts forfeiting matches.

Show where its written ICC cannot do so.
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did they stop Aus , WI and Eng?
besides its your point of view that India can generate same revenue without having to play Pak , so why would it be necessary for icc to keep their matches with Pak by keeping their group same? why would icc take that headache for future?
 
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