Should PCB boycott ICC Champions Trophy 2025 if ICC demands a hybrid model to please BCCI?

[BouncerGuy]

The ICC Champions Trophy 2025, scheduled to be hosted by Pakistan, faces uncertainty due to BCCI's refusal to travel to Pakistan. The ICC has suggested a hybrid model where India's matches would be played in UAE, similar to the Asia Cup 2023 arrangement.

PCB chief Mohsin Naqvi wants to host the entire tournament in Pakistan, but if PCB doesn't agree to the hybrid model, the tournament might be relocated to South Africa. Naqvi has denied any discussions about a hybrid model and stated that any decisions would need government approval.

What's your take? Should PCB stand firm on its position and boycott the tournament if forced to accept a hybrid model, or should they compromise to ensure the tournament takes place partially in Pakistan?

 

[mominsaigol]

The ICC Champions Trophy 2025, scheduled to be hosted by Pakistan, faces uncertainty due to BCCI's refusal to travel to Pakistan. The ICC has suggested a hybrid model where India's matches would be played in UAE, similar to the Asia Cup 2023 arrangement.

PCB chief Mohsin Naqvi wants to host the entire tournament in Pakistan, but if PCB doesn't agree to the hybrid model, the tournament might be relocated to South Africa. Naqvi has denied any discussions about a hybrid model and stated that any decisions would need government approval.

What's your take? Should PCB stand firm on its position and boycott the tournament if forced to accept a hybrid model, or should they compromise to ensure the tournament takes place partially in Pakistan?

but if PCB doesn't agree to the hybrid model, the tournament might be relocated to South Africa.

Where did South Africa come from? Thats so random lol. Pakistan sei SA .

 

[BouncerGuy]

but if PCB doesn't agree to the hybrid model, the tournament might be relocated to South Africa.

Where did South Africa come from? Thats so random lol. Pakistan sei SA .

some reports say that it will be full event in SA

But if it is a hybrid model, it will be UAE most probably.

 

[shah9425]

Yeah if they shift the tournament out of Pakistan

Boycott this whole tournament

 

[Devadwal]

That's why people are first need to read the whole situation .

When ICC was allocated ( ICC Metting in Sri Lanka) the funds for champions trophy than They were allocated for three different possibilities

1) Hold the champion trophy entirely in pakistan
2) Hybrid model with UAE or Lanka
3) Entire champion trophy relocate to South Africa

So its not just randomly but ICC already allocated three funds for all the possibilities .

 

[Sunny_majoka]

Play in hybrid and demand hybrid for future tournaments in India

 

[kingusama92]

No need to boycott the tournament. I completely disagree with that stance.

Host the hybrid tournament and earn your money while finally bringing an ICC tournament back home. That hasn't happened since the 90s and the fans deserve to see it play out in front of them when it's this close.

However, I would match India's approach and simply refuse to come to India for future tournaments. India is welcome to fly back and forth if the ICC wants to keep the teams in the same group. The semi and final would also have to be hosted outside India if Pakistan makes it.

Simple and clean.

Let's say the ICC doesn't agree in the future. Well, that's fine you can boycott starting then because the CT in Pakistan will be long gone and you will have let your fans enjoy the home tournament.

 

[Farabi]

That's why people are first need to read the whole situation .

When ICC was allocated ( ICC Metting in Sri Lanka) the funds for champions trophy than They were allocated for three different possibilities

1) Hold the champion trophy entirely in pakistan
2) Hybrid model with UAE or Lanka
3) Entire champion trophy relocate to South Africa

So its not just randomly but ICC already allocated three funds for all the possibilities .

I’m hoping Pakistan agrees to the hybrid model, as it would highlight the isolation of India’s strategy. It would be ironic to see India playing its own games in Dubai while teams from around the world enjoy the Champions Trophy in Pakistan, where the real excitement will be. This approach would naturally reveal the absurdity and embarrassment of a policy that feels pointless and damaging to India’s reputation.

 

[Bhaijaan]

PCB should boycott cricket. Too much drama

 

[lucky_fish]

No.

If India refuse to travel then India should be banned from ICC events for a period of time.
PCB can't do any more than we have done over the last few years to accommodate India including Hybrid tournaments and travelling to India ourselves for the WC. How long can this carry on for and WHY should we have to put up with being treated like this?

Its not on.

The cricket world needs to stop bowing down to BCCI and if they choose not to participate then so be it.

 

[Chuggy]

PCB should boycott cricket. Too much drama

Why should they? It's your beloved BCCI who is hell bent on eliminating Pak from the face of cricket. The utter crap you been spewing about terrorism and the 26/11 attacks the whole of Pakistan condemns that but your bigoted backsides will never leave a chance to attack Pakistan cricket yet won't let any icc event happen where Pak and India don't play in group stage. IPL or not. Icc needs Pakistan to exist for the icc tournaments whether BCCI likes it or not. We should boycott or let India sit this one out. Replace them with Sri Lanka it would be a much better tournament then anyway

 

[DeadlyVenom]

No need to boycott the tournament. I completely disagree with that stance.

Host the hybrid tournament and earn your money while finally bringing an ICC tournament back home. That hasn't happened since the 90s and the fans deserve to see it play out in front of them when it's this close.

However, I would match India's approach and simply refuse to come to India for future tournaments. India is welcome to fly back and forth if the ICC wants to keep the teams in the same group. The semi and final would also have to be hosted outside India if Pakistan makes it.

Simple and clean.

Let's say the ICC doesn't agree in the future. Well, that's fine you can boycott starting then because the CT in Pakistan will be long gone and you will have let your fans enjoy the home tournament.

I agree. But there is no need for the PCB to give advanced notice of not attending tournaments in India.

Let the rights etc be signed off and we can assess each tournament before making a last minute decision.

 

[light]

Pakistan and India are the most annoying cricket countries EVER. 2 countries ruining it for everyone else. Am so freaking tired of this ...

 

[kingusama92]

I agree. But there is no need for the PCB to give advanced notice of not attending tournaments in India.

Let the rights etc be signed off and we can assess each tournament before making a last minute decision.

100% agree.

It should be done in the same fashion.

 

[Pakpak]

No need to boycott the tournament. I completely disagree with that stance.

Host the hybrid tournament and earn your money while finally bringing an ICC tournament back home. That hasn't happened since the 90s and the fans deserve to see it play out in front of them when it's this close.

However, I would match India's approach and simply refuse to come to India for future tournaments. India is welcome to fly back and forth if the ICC wants to keep the teams in the same group. The semi and final would also have to be hosted outside India if Pakistan makes it.

Simple and clean.

Let's say the ICC doesn't agree in the future. Well, that's fine you can boycott starting then because the CT in Pakistan will be long gone and you will have let your fans enjoy the home tournament.

Yup pretty much my view too. Totally agree

 

[followed]

Just kick frigging annoying loser india out of the tournament. No non Indian wants to see these uglies play cricket.

These koomars and bagris can stay in India. They are not needed in Pakistan.

 

[shah9425]

This is a cricket forum we know the hypocrisy of India who loves to play us in every icc tournaments or aisa cup but don't want to come to Pakistan peak hypocrisy by BCCI

 

[BouncerGuy]

@Bhaijaan Do you wanna talk about cricket in this thread or you trying to prove that Pakistan is behind those attacks.

Simple question bro, why India plays against Pakistan everywhere in ICC and Asia cup events but when it comes to another ICC event in Pakistan where all other teams are coming, INDIA IS RUNNING AWAY???

 

[shah9425]

@Bhaijaan Do you wanna talk about cricket in this thread or you trying to prove that Pakistan is behind those attacks.

Simple question bro, why India plays against Pakistan everywhere in ICC and Asia cup events but when it comes to another ICC event in Pakistan where all other teams are coming, INDIA IS RUNNING AWAY???

This poster last year was talking about hospitality of India when WC 23 was around the corner and so many things related to it

Now he is talking about terrorism and old attacks so much hypocrisy is this

 

[khyberlion]

Pakistan and India are the most annoying cricket countries EVER. 2 countries ruining it for everyone else. Am so freaking tired of this ...

It's only India.

 

[HARKS]

Why should they? It's your beloved BCCI who is hell bent on eliminating Pak from the face of cricket. The utter crap you been spewing about terrorism and the 26/11 attacks the whole of Pakistan condemns that but your bigoted backsides will never leave a chance to attack Pakistan cricket yet won't let any icc event happen where Pak and India don't play in group stage. IPL or not. Icc needs Pakistan to exist for the icc tournaments whether BCCI likes it or not. We should boycott or let India sit this one out. Replace them with Sri Lanka it would be a much better tournament then anyway

Yes Attack kill innocent people and condemn that attack and wishes everything must go back to normal because u people condemn it .

 

[Kianig89]

If the tournament final is played outside Pakistan, then there is no point for being host either boycott it or shift it to SA and get the full earnings as per Host nation

 

[Sanzcool]

This is a cricket forum we know the hypocrisy of India who loves to play us in every icc tournaments or aisa cup but don't want to come to Pakistan peak hypocrisy by BCCI

Nah, most of the genuine ICT "fans" want the team to travel to Pak and defeat you lot at your own soil, for both of us, there is no bigger happiness than defeating the opposition at their home.

I am hoping for Pakistan to accept the hybrid leg, and conduct the tournament successfully, could come a long way in getting ICC tournaments in the future.

 

[Devadwal]

After Indian cricket team refused to Play champion trophy in pakistan .ICC is exploring all others options for champion Trophy but nothing is finalized yet.

If pakistan agree with hybrid model after all the statements like We will never agree to play in hybrid model ,all the talk about prestige, taking s bold stances etc .

What will be pakistan fan's takes on that PCB stance?

Share your opinions .

 

[cricketjoshila]

I agree. But there is no need for the PCB to give advanced notice of not attending tournaments in India.

Let the rights etc be signed off and we can assess each tournament before making a last minute decision.

Once you sign the MPA. You have to play or lose your ICC money.

 

[Punjab Kings]

I wish Pakistan shows BCCI their Awkaat....
....
Please icc play this tournament without ICT

 

[ChennaiFan]

If the CT is moved out of Pakistan, I think PCB should boycott the tournament. Let us see if they walk the talk.

 

[Varun]

Looks like the tournament will be moved lock, stock and barrel to South Africa if the PCB don't accept the hybrid model.

 

[ChennaiFan]

Looks like the tournament will be moved lock, stock and barrel to South Africa if the PCB don't accept the hybrid model.

While I don't agree with the BCCI's stance, I think the PCB might just accept the hybrid model and run the tournament. Sure, it is an injustice, but let us hope they are pragmatic.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

"Unless Pakistan Cricket Board Decides To Pull Out...": ICC's New Plan On Champions Trophy Revealed

Earlier, a PCB source had said there was "no talk" of a Hybrid Model as of now and they would seek further clarity from the ICC.

The International Cricket Council has sought a response from the Pakistan Cricket Board on hosting the Champions Trophy in a hybrid model following India's refusal to travel to the country for the tournament. The PCB on Sunday had confirmed that it received an email from the ICC that India declined to travel to the neighbouring country. "Unless the PCB decides to pull out of hosting the Champions Trophy the current plan is to hold India's matches in UAE and the final in Dubai," a source told PTI on Monday.

"The Indian Cricket Board has told the ICC that a Hybrid Model is acceptable to them only if the final is held in Dubai and not in Pakistan," the source added.

The PCB on Monday remained silent without giving any reaction to the BCCI informing the ICC it will not send its team to play in Pakistan in the Champions Trophy. But according to sources, the ICC has asked the PCB to confirm if a Hybrid Model - where India's matches and the final would be held in Dubai - is acceptable to them.

The ICC has assured the PCB that, under this arrangement, they would receive full hosting fees and a majority of the matches.

"The ICC has told the PCB that if it decides to go ahead with the hosting of the mega event on a Hybrid Model it would get its full hosting fees and majority of the matches," the source said.

Source: NDTV

 

[cricketjoshila]

How many matches will Pakistan host if the hybrid model is followed?

 

[shah9425]

"Unless Pakistan Cricket Board Decides To Pull Out...": ICC's New Plan On Champions Trophy Revealed

Earlier, a PCB source had said there was "no talk" of a Hybrid Model as of now and they would seek further clarity from the ICC.

The International Cricket Council has sought a response from the Pakistan Cricket Board on hosting the Champions Trophy in a hybrid model following India's refusal to travel to the country for the tournament. The PCB on Sunday had confirmed that it received an email from the ICC that India declined to travel to the neighbouring country. "Unless the PCB decides to pull out of hosting the Champions Trophy the current plan is to hold India's matches in UAE and the final in Dubai," a source told PTI on Monday.

"The Indian Cricket Board has told the ICC that a Hybrid Model is acceptable to them only if the final is held in Dubai and not in Pakistan," the source added.

The PCB on Monday remained silent without giving any reaction to the BCCI informing the ICC it will not send its team to play in Pakistan in the Champions Trophy. But according to sources, the ICC has asked the PCB to confirm if a Hybrid Model - where India's matches and the final would be held in Dubai - is acceptable to them.

The ICC has assured the PCB that, under this arrangement, they would receive full hosting fees and a majority of the matches.

"The ICC has told the PCB that if it decides to go ahead with the hosting of the mega event on a Hybrid Model it would get its full hosting fees and majority of the matches," the source said.

Source: NDTV

Source propaganda media

 

[Local.Dada]

Source propaganda media

Indian media is a propaganda media ok but what’s a neutral source I need to get info from- geo news and ary news?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Source propaganda media

Cricket is run from India. Indian media has far better sources than pakistanis.

 

[shah9425]

Indian media is a propaganda media ok but what’s a neutral source I need to get info from- geo news and ary news?

Just waiting on official icc statement

 

[Local.Dada]

How many matches will Pakistan host if the hybrid model is followed?

Probably all group games minus India or knockouts if they qualify except finals.

 

[Local.Dada]

Just waiting on official icc statement

So ICC is not BCCICC according to you like others? Good to know. Yes let’s wait for ICC decision

 

[shah9425]

Cricket is run from India. Indian media has far better sources than pakistanis.

Last time I checked others countries apart from cancer also play cricket

 

[Local.Dada]

UAE and Pak hybrid model makes sense or hybrid with Bangla, SL or other M.E countries but don’t think SA will be hybrid for all practical reasons. Would prefer SA.

M.e will have even more depressingly boring games with either rich people showing up for Ind-Pak or knockouts and rest filled with grown men with teddy bears etc. At least Pak will have passionate home crowds.

 

[shah9425]

We have only one tournament in this cycle and final would be in Dubai

Is this a joke

 

[Local.Dada]

We have only one tournament in this cycle and final would be in Dubai

Is this a joke

The other option is entire tourney in SA. Personally prefer that. Nothing against Pakistan, as a cricket fan much better viewing experience for a world tournament.

 

[Rana]

"Unless Pakistan Cricket Board Decides To Pull Out...": ICC's New Plan On Champions Trophy Revealed

Earlier, a PCB source had said there was "no talk" of a Hybrid Model as of now and they would seek further clarity from the ICC.

The International Cricket Council has sought a response from the Pakistan Cricket Board on hosting the Champions Trophy in a hybrid model following India's refusal to travel to the country for the tournament. The PCB on Sunday had confirmed that it received an email from the ICC that India declined to travel to the neighbouring country. "Unless the PCB decides to pull out of hosting the Champions Trophy the current plan is to hold India's matches in UAE and the final in Dubai," a source told PTI on Monday.

"The Indian Cricket Board has told the ICC that a Hybrid Model is acceptable to them only if the final is held in Dubai and not in Pakistan," the source added.

The PCB on Monday remained silent without giving any reaction to the BCCI informing the ICC it will not send its team to play in Pakistan in the Champions Trophy. But according to sources, the ICC has asked the PCB to confirm if a Hybrid Model - where India's matches and the final would be held in Dubai - is acceptable to them.

The ICC has assured the PCB that, under this arrangement, they would receive full hosting fees and a majority of the matches.

"The ICC has told the PCB that if it decides to go ahead with the hosting of the mega event on a Hybrid Model it would get its full hosting fees and majority of the matches," the source said.

Source: NDTV

Don’t get it

So they will play group games in Pakistan but not the final?

 

[shah9425]

The other option is entire tourney in SA. Personally prefer that. Nothing against Pakistan, as a cricket fan much better viewing experience for a world tournament.

So you want to repeat 2009 again

And India can have as many as t20 50 wc and champions trophy

And we wait another decade

 

[khyberlion]

The other option is entire tourney in SA. Personally prefer that. Nothing against Pakistan, as a cricket fan much better viewing experience for a world tournament.

Same can be said about India. Won't you agree?

 

[cricketjoshila]

They play. Running the game is India's job.

BCCI is ICC.

Last time I checked others countries apart from cancer also play cricket

And you can keep abusing, will not change anything.

 

[Local.Dada]

Same can be said about India. Won't you agree?

Sure, I find bilateral matches in India boring as well. Only IPL in Indian stadiums is fun to watch to be honest. SA, Aus and Eng definitely have a better viewing experience for an ICC tournament.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Same can be said about India. Won't you agree?

Anyone will.

 

[khyberlion]

Anyone will.

In that case let's move everything out of India.

 

[Kianig89]

So 100 days countdown event in Lahore is postponed due to scheduling issues but they are blaming it on Smog.

 

[Varun]

So 100 days countdown event in Lahore is postponed due to scheduling issues but they are blaming it on Smog.

Surely they won't countdown for a tournament in South Africa.

 

[gazza619]

As per rules ICC cant demand a hybrid model. It is up to the host.

 

[Kianig89]

PCB has written to ICC asking for written reasons on India refusal to travel to Pakistan

Let's see what is the report now

 

[rpant_gabba]

100% agree.

It should be done in the same fashion.

I believe that was practiced in the past by PCB during the 90's before indian cricket money was lucrative. Hero cup, Asia cuo et etc.

So for BCCI it will not be new.

Also, There is was indication tnat BCCI was happy to replace Pak with WI for the WC23, according to @Savak

So, yes Pak can try. not sure it ill work unitl after 2029 indian election.

 

[kingusama92]

I believe that was practiced in the past by PCB during the 90's before indian cricket money was lucrative. Hero cup, Asia cuo et etc.

So for BCCI it will not be new.

Also, There is was indication tnat BCCI was happy to replace Pak with WI for the WC23, according to @Savak

So, yes Pak can try. not sure it ill work unitl after 2029 indian election.

Lots of variables to think about.

What is written in the contract with the broadcaster? Are they promised a set number of India-Pakistan group games over multiple ICC tournaments? If yes, WI is likely not a good replacement and they will ask for a reduction in the contract.

To be fair, my heart is always in getting as many India-Pakistan games because they're entertaining. I don't like hybrid models and feel both nations should be visiting each other.

However, I'm guessing Pakistan might end up taking this route with an equal response eventually.

 

[Usman Chadda]

This is all optics - PCB will agree to the Hybrid model.

PCB and ICC were kidding themselves if they thought India was ever going to come to Pakistan.

Pakistan should not have gone to the WC23. There is a stipulation in the ICC contracts where government approval can decide the participation of a certain country.

India is well within their rights to not come, Pakistan should do the same.

Unfortunately our board is in desperate need of the ICC money so they should just shut up and agree on this joke of a tournament the ICC is suggesting.

Not hosting the tournament will cause us a lot more trouble than accepting the hybrid model.

 

[light]

It's only India.

Pakistan too ...

 

[rpant_gabba]

Lots of variables to think about.

What is written in the contract with the broadcaster? Are they promised a set number of India-Pakistan group games over multiple ICC tournaments? If yes, WI is likely not a good replacement and they will ask for a reduction in the contract.

To be fair, my heart is always in getting as many India-Pakistan games because they're entertaining. I don't like hybrid models and feel both nations should be visiting each other.

However, I'm guessing Pakistan might end up taking this route with an equal response eventually.

Given the tenuous nature of ind-pak ties, I doubt there will a specific game clause

We can guess based on how meekly PCB surrendered, there is no such clause and India was willing to put up any loss in revenue to put PCB in place lace once and for all.

I think Pak is struggling with to deal with non WKk approach being taken by many Indian institutions

 

[Slim]

but if PCB doesn't agree to the hybrid model, the tournament might be relocated to South Africa.

Where did South Africa come from? Thats so random lol. Pakistan sei SA .

some reports say that it will be full event in SA

But if it is a hybrid model, it will be UAE most probably.

BCCI through indian toilet media is throwing everything on the wall to see what sticks. These are pressure tactics.

 

[Slim]

Pakistan and India are the most annoying cricket countries EVER. 2 countries ruining it for everyone else. Am so freaking tired of this ...

Its only India -

 

[kingusama92]

Given the tenuous nature of ind-pak ties, I doubt there will a specific game clause

We can guess based on how meekly PCB surrendered, there is no such clause and India was willing to put up any loss in revenue to put PCB in place lace once and for all.

I think Pak is struggling with to deal with non WKk approach being taken by many Indian institutions

You may be right and that's the hidden variable none of us know.

If I was the BCCI (and there's no such clause) then I would consider hosting a mini IPL to reimburse the broadcaster and cut Pakistan completely. What a grand opportunity to do so.

But the Asia Cup showed they likely aren't willing to do things such as foot the bill for losses. In fact, Jay Shah turned the tournament upside down (i.e. random reserve days) to get the India-Pakistan game.

I think we are quietly trending towards an equal response from Pakistan. They were able to justify previous visits to India or accepting hybrid models because of the CT hosting rights being in limbo but that won't be the case moving forward. Lots of this stuff becomes PR work too with the masses.

My guess is they will do the hybrid model again, make money as the host, and then stop visiting India.

 

[khyberlion]

Pakistan too ...

Keep lying to yourself.

 

[Local.Dada]

You may be right and that's the hidden variable none of us know.

If I was the BCCI (and there's no such clause) then I would consider hosting a mini IPL to reimburse the broadcaster and cut Pakistan completely. What a grand opportunity to do so.

But the Asia Cup showed they likely aren't willing to do things such as foot the bill for losses. In fact, Jay Shah turned the tournament upside down (i.e. random reserve days) to get the India-Pakistan game.

I think we are quietly trending towards an equal response from Pakistan. They were able to justify previous visits to India or accepting hybrid models because of the CT hosting rights being in limbo but that won't be the case moving forward. Lots of this stuff becomes PR work too with the masses.

My guess is they will do the hybrid model again, make money as the host, and then stop visiting India.

BCCI especially even more so with Jay Shah becoming chairman won’t purposely sabotage an ICC tournament by holding IPL. That too only to ensure Pakistan will have a flop tournament. Thats short term thinking and not the way BCCI works.

BCCI would like the whole pie. That is play an ICC tournament, get the Ind-Pakistan game and make a lot of money, for that they will throw a beneficial agreement that is hybrid model, Pak gets major chunk of $$$ from the hosting rights, argument that Pakistan which recently normalized cricket will complete hosting an ICC tournament and that way PCB, BCCI, ICC can all make money. PCB might be criticized for a lot of things but the people in there are very shrewd when it comes to money. So that will be the outcome.

India will play the CT and won’t travel to Pak. It’s Paks turn to make most out of the situation. Thats how BCCI always works.

 

[rpant_gabba]

You may be right and that's the hidden variable none of us know.

yup

If I was the BCCI (and there's no such clause) then I would consider hosting a mini IPL to reimburse the broadcaster and cut Pakistan completely. What a grand opportunity to do so.

Too much work. Data shows that while ind-pak game might be 30% better rating than other India matches, meer absence o n Ind in the tournament might be enough to know what is the status of the international crlcket financially w/o India. I think BCCI is itching to find that out and PCB and ICC would rather not

But the Asia Cup showed they likely aren't willing to do things such as foot the bill for losses. In fact, Jay Shah turned the tournament upside down (i.e. random reserve days) to get the India-Pakistan game.

All asia cup showed was that BCCI wasn't willing to give a quarter and make PCB dance. Which they did

I think we are quietly trending towards an equal response from Pakistan. They were able to justify previous visits to India or accepting hybrid models because of the CT hosting rights being in limbo but that won't be the case moving forward. Lots of this stuff becomes PR work too with the masses.

While PCB is running a lemonade stand (figuratively speaking), BCCI is running a business. Don't think BCCi is giong to be moved by PCB's relations with Pak base

My guess is they will do the hybrid model again, make money as the host, and then stop visiting India.

Of course the consequence to that would be not participation fees and reduction in disbursement. So far PCB has been to greedy to let go of free money. don't see that changing

 

[Vikram1989]

But the Asia Cup showed they likely aren't willing to do things such as foot the bill for losses. In fact, Jay Shah turned the tournament upside down (i.e. random reserve days) to get the India-Pakistan game.

It's nothing to do with jay shah.it was all pcbs work

https://247news.com.pk/?p=12222

PCB Secures Reserve Day for Pakistan-India Clash in Asia Cup 2023.


Once ranatunga criticised the reserve day for that match alone and after naseem Shah injury,pcb went in silent mode

 

[sweep_shot]

If tournament moves to South Africa completely, Pakistan should definitely boycott the whole tournament.

If tournament has a hybrid model, maybe Pakistan should only boycott the India game.

 

[kingusama92]

BCCI especially even more so with Jay Shah becoming chairman won’t purposely sabotage an ICC tournament by holding IPL. That too only to ensure Pakistan will have a flop tournament. Thats short term thinking and not the way BCCI works.

BCCI would like the whole pie. That is play an ICC tournament, get the Ind-Pakistan game and make a lot of money, for that they will throw a beneficial agreement that is hybrid model, Pak gets major chunk of $$$ from the hosting rights, argument that Pakistan which recently normalized cricket will complete hosting an ICC tournament and that way PCB, BCCI, ICC can all make money. PCB might be criticized for a lot of things but the people in there are very shrewd when it comes to money. So that will be the outcome.

India will play the CT and won’t travel to Pak. It’s Paks turn to make most out of the situation. Thats how BCCI always works.

You can only have the biggest possible piece of the whole pie when both teams play.

Otherwise, you are getting a less valuable piece of the pie as the broadcaster rights drop. IPL matches are different from ICC or any international event because there are too many "neutral" games in the ICC package. IPL games essentially mean every game is an Indian game, which is why that package is so high.

If they want full value on the ICC rights, they will need Pakistan or replace its value with something else. And no that value is not WI or SL.

I agree a mini IPL would devalue their core tournament but some replacement will have to come. Perhaps, a longer ICC tournament with more India matches?

 

[kingusama92]

yup

Too much work. Data shows that while ind-pak game might be 30% better rating than other India matches, meer absence o n Ind in the tournament might be enough to know what is the status of the international crlcket financially w/o India. I think BCCI is itching to find that out and PCB and ICC would rather not

All asia cup showed was that BCCI wasn't willing to give a quarter and make PCB dance. Which they did

While PCB is running a lemonade stand (figuratively speaking), BCCI is running a business. Don't think BCCi is giong to be moved by PCB's relations with Pak base

Of course the consequence to that would be not participation fees and reduction in disbursement. So far PCB has been to greedy to let go of free money. don't see that changing

That I agree with, the BCCI will want to see how things unfold. But most businesses prefer stability in the entertainment business and that India-Pak game is as stable as it gets. Other games might go up or down in ratings each tournament, but that game won't.

PCB only accepted those Asia Cup terms because of the CT carrot that was dangling in front of them. Making the PCB dance or bow is just one way of looking at it. In fact, we can say the broadcasters/sponsors made the PCB and BCCI dance with how they were scrambling to make the match happen. The only thing left to do was for these guys to stand on the field with umbrellas themselves if it rained again.

I just don't think the BCCI wants this headache. The Indian government likely doesn't care about their opinion though. Things are going smoothly for them and a dramatic step by Pakistan will lead to so many new questions.

 

[kingusama92]

It's nothing to do with jay shah.it was all pcbs work

https://247news.com.pk/?p=12222

PCB Secures Reserve Day for Pakistan-India Clash in Asia Cup 2023.


Once ranatunga criticised the reserve day for that match alone and after naseem Shah injury,pcb went in silent mode

It was PCB in coordination with the ACC (Jay Shah was the head).

Jay Shah had the final say.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Some media reports say that if the deadlock is not broken, CT 25 may be indefinately postponed.

 

[Vikram1989]

It was PCB in coordination with the ACC (Jay Shah was the head).

Jay Shah had the final say.

What Jay Shah did is just to rubber stamp a decision in favour of already agitated pcb by putting indian team in risk for 3 days of continuous play.At the end it happened too.

 

[BouncerGuy]

PCB cannot boycott the whole event and we all know that PCB has not enough leverage here.

Maybe accept hybrid model and boycott the India game only.

 

[Devadwal]

PCB cannot boycott the whole event and we all know that PCB has not enough leverage here.

Maybe accept hybrid model and boycott the India game only.

What will be the reason to boycott indian game only if they agree on hybrid models?
Care to eloborate?

 

[BouncerGuy]

What will be the reason to boycott indian game only if they agree on hybrid models?
Care to eloborate?

For the same reason India is boycotting and refusing to come to Pakistan.

India wants hybrid model, no Pakistan.

 

[Devadwal]

For the same reason India is boycotting and refusing to come to Pakistan.

India wants hybrid model, no Pakistan.

Indian team is not traveling due to government permission .

What is the exact reason PCB give to ICC ? They need very strong reason to boycott match against india.

 

[offstump]

Everything is in limbo right now but going forward, I think Pak will refuse to be in the same group as India in any future tournaments. This is $$ out of the broadcaster’s pockets. You can say whatever you want, Star sports or Disney plus or whoever has the rights salivate at India Pakistan matches and always want the two teams in the same group. In the WC wasn’t Ravi Shastri acting like an India Bruce Buffer trying to hype up the crowd like it was some sort of ufc fight because the Pak India games mean something and Pak can take that ATM machine away.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So pakistan is not visiting UAE?

For the same reason India is boycotting and refusing to come to Pakistan.

India wants hybrid model, no Pakistan.

 

[Devadwal]

So pakistan is not visiting UAE?

Lets give him exact reason first to boycott match against india.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Everything is in limbo right now but going forward, I think Pak will refuse to be in the same group as India in any future tournaments. This is $$ out of the broadcaster’s pockets. You can say whatever you want, Star sports or Disney plus or whoever has the rights salivate at India Pakistan matches and always want the two teams in the same group. In the WC wasn’t Ravi Shastri acting like an India Bruce Buffer trying to hype up the crowd like it was some sort of ufc fight because the Pak India games mean something and Pak can take that ATM machine away.

Pakistan survives on ICC share. ICC can take that away.

BCCI doesn't have any bilateral relations with PCB. Yet they make billions. PCB makes peanuts.

Tells you who the ATM is.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lets give him exact reason first to boycott match against india.

Let PCB not visit UAE.

This pakistani delusion of pakistan being the ATM because of Indo-Pak match needs to be broken

IPL ban hasn't taught them a lesson.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Some media reports say that if the deadlock is not broken, CT 25 may be indefinately postponed.

If this happens and CT 25 either gets canceled or moved permanently, than PCB can say goodbye to any chance of hosting any ICC tournaments for foreseeable future. Forget BCCI, no other boards, especially the smaller ones will ever support thier bid. Expect the broadcasters also to put a tough clause in next bidding cycle and have separate bid prices if PCB gets hosting rights. Overall it will be a disaster for most and the only boards which wiko come out strong will be BCCI, ACB and ECB.