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India (probable): 1 Ajinkya Rahane, 2 Shikhar Dhawan 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Suresh Raina, 5 MS Dhoni (capt, wk), 6 Rohit Sharma, 7 Stuart Binny, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Axar Patel/Harbhajan Singh, 10 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 11 Mohit Sharma/S Aravind

South Africa (probable): 1 AB de Villiers, 2 Quinton de Kock (wk), 3 Faf du Plessis (capt), 4 JP Duminy, 5 David Miller, 6 Farhaan Behardien, 7 Chris Morris, 8 Kagiso Rabada, 9 Kyle Abbott, 10 Marchant de Lange, 11 Imran Tahir

Why is Dhoni still playing T20's :facepalm:
 
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India (probable): 1 Ajinkya Rahane, 2 Shikhar Dhawan 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Suresh Raina, 5 MS Dhoni (capt, wk), 6 Rohit Sharma, 7 Stuart Binny, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Axar Patel/Harbhajan Singh, 10 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 11 Mohit Sharma/S Aravind

South Africa (probable): 1 AB de Villiers, 2 Quinton de Kock (wk), 3 Faf du Plessis (capt), 4 JP Duminy, 5 David Miller, 6 Farhaan Behardien, 7 Chris Morris, 8 Kagiso Rabada, 9 Kyle Abbott, 10 Marchant de Lange, 11 Imran Tahir

Why is Dhoni still playing T20's :facepalm:

Why is Dhoni still playing :facepalm:
 
Rilee will play for south africa.. And why rohit at 6 in t20s?
 
I still don't mind him in odi's even though he has declined but t20's is a big NO as far as I'm concerned.

Dhoni has not declined in ODI's, over the last 2 years, he averages 57,36 and SR 93.82 compared to career stats of 52.24 and 88.95.
He averages 68 in wins and SR 107.
In fact, if anything he has been better recently than before.
 
Dhoni has not declined in ODI's, over the last 2 years, he averages 57,36 and SR 93.82 compared to career stats of 52.24 and 88.95.
He averages 68 in wins and SR 107.
In fact, if anything he has been better recently than before.

That's what stats say. Watch him in action and you would know his power hitting and finishing skills have declined big time.

From the NZ tour where we lost 0-4, Dhoni hasn't been the same.
 
Dhoni has not declined in ODI's, over the last 2 years, he averages 57,36 and SR 93.82 compared to career stats of 52.24 and 88.95.
He averages 68 in wins and SR 107.
In fact, if anything he has been better recently than before.
This. Some Indian fans I tell you :facepalm:

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Why is our bowling looking sooo horrendous?

Trundlers with spinners in Dharamshala?

Spinners may very well be useless here.

Looks like our batting has to outbat the opposition in here.
 
Dhoni has not declined in ODI's, over the last 2 years, he averages 57,36 and SR 93.82 compared to career stats of 52.24 and 88.95.
He averages 68 in wins and SR 107.
In fact, if anything he has been better recently than before.

Woah Woah are the stats misleading because he looks nowhere as explosive aw before. Thanks for info mate.
 
That's what stats say. Watch him in action and you would know his power hitting and finishing skills have declined big time.

From the NZ tour where we lost 0-4, Dhoni hasn't been the same.

This. Some Indian fans I tell you :facepalm:

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I was just showing how Dhoni's stat don't matter. He has always been just a good ODI player. Nothing special.
The likes of Raina, Yuvraj, Sehwag, Kohli won matches for India.
 
Woah Woah are the stats misleading because he looks nowhere as explosive aw before. Thanks for info mate.

Stats are showing what Dhoni has done since he is captain. Stayed not out and play slower than what is really needed. Hope someone else can win the match for you.
 
I was just showing how Dhoni's stat don't matter. He has always been just a good ODI player. Nothing special.
The likes of Raina, Yuvraj, Sehwag, Kohli won matches for India.

He was TRULY SPECIAL till a few years.

Dhoni has won countless games compared to Raina, Yuvi and all. Raina and Yuvi won some high profile games so you may get the impression but Dhoni won the most profile game of all time (WC finals).

In 2015...he averages just 42 scoring 450 odd runs (inspite of playing patta Aussie tracks iin WC where he averaged 31).

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;spanval2=span;template=results;type=allround

Dhoni was a beast till start of 2014 in ODIs. Now he has obviously declined.

International T20s...he is bad but that's another topic.
 
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He was TRULY SPECIAL till a few years.

Dhoni has won countless games compared to Raina, Yuvi and all. Raina and Yuvi won some high profile games so you may get the impression but Dhoni won the most profile game of all time (WC finals).

In 2015...he averages just 42 scoring 450 odd runs (inspite of playing patta Aussie tracks iin WC where he averaged 31).

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;spanval2=span;template=results;type=allround

Dhoni was a beast till start of 2014 in ODIs.

International T20s...he is bad but that's another topic.

I will rate Yuvraj performance in quarter Final and Raina's performance in Quarter + Semi more than Dhoni's in Final.
Thoses crucial innings played against brilliant bowling in not so easy conditions were better and more important for India to win the world cup than Dhoni's innings in the final.
The best innings in the final for India was Ghambir's.
 
I will rate Yuvraj performance in quarter Final and Raina's performance in Quarter + Semi more than Dhoni's in Final.
Thoses crucial innings played against brilliant bowling in not so easy conditions were better and more important for India to win the world cup than Dhoni's innings in the final.
The best innings in the final for India was Ghambir's.

That's your rating but add all components and Dhoni has easily won more games for India than all of those 3.
 
Stats are showing what Dhoni has done since he is captain. Stayed not out and play slower than what is really needed. Hope someone else can win the match for you.

Its not true !! Anyone who follows indian cricket will tell you how many matches dhoni won for india. Its true he play very slowly regardless of match situation but mostly whenever india wins he is there on crease. What more a team wants ?
There are numerous examples when he single handedly won matches for india. Dhoni till 2013 was beast in ODI.
 
Dharamshala conditions will suit B Kumar i guess. But over all Indian bowling attack seems average for me.
 
Is ten sports showing this?

Is rather watch this even though it's t20 than our snoozefest series against Zimboks
 
South Africa are going to win i feel the same. Its been a long lay off for our limited overs players.
 
Everyone's gut feeling says SA will win.

My gut also says Ashwin will be clobbered and it will be upto Bhajji to do well.

Hope I am wrong and we win. :))
 
The players from both sides should be fresh and getting ready to get in the groove.. start of a looong tour. Interesting!
 
Dharamshala conditions will suit B Kumar i guess. But over all Indian bowling attack seems average for me.

When was it ever above average? So its kinda constant. In other words it's batting that India should worry about since bowling will anyway be ****
 
When was it ever above average? So its kinda constant. In other words it's batting that India should worry about since bowling will anyway be ****

The worry is that we dont have a truly explosive batsman down the order. Some one who can hit like 30 of 12 balls in the last 2-3 overs.
 
The worry is that we dont have a truly explosive batsman down the order. Some one who can hit like 30 of 12 balls in the last 2-3 overs.
Gurkeerat Mann just hit the first double ton of this year's Ranji Trophy. Since selectors picked him for ODIs, shouldn't he been in T20s too.

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B.Kumar used to swing big, I thought he'll be a permanent member on the side but he has declined.
 
He was TRULY SPECIAL till a few years.

Dhoni has won countless games compared to Raina, Yuvi and all. Raina and Yuvi won some high profile games so you may get the impression but Dhoni won the most profile game of all time (WC finals).

In 2015...he averages just 42 scoring 450 odd runs (inspite of playing patta Aussie tracks iin WC where he averaged 31).

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;spanval2=span;template=results;type=allround

Dhoni was a beast till start of 2014 in ODIs. Now he has obviously declined.

International T20s...he is bad but that's another topic.

That is a myth. Kohli, Raina , yuvraj and Gambhir have won us a lot more games than Dhoni. Dhoni (along with Gambhir) won us the most important one though
 
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There you go. Hope it helps
 
This is pathetic. All trundlers. A 140+ fast bowler like Umesh or Aaron would have been perfect in this pitch.
 
This is pathetic. All trundlers. A 140+ fast bowler like Umesh or Aaron would have been perfect in this pitch.

Doesn't matter. Its T20. It will swing at dharmsala so I'm ok with 130 kph trundling as long we swing the ball upfront and execute the death bowling perfectly with slower balls,wide Yorkers etc. No need to play genuine quicks in this useless T20.
 
Aaron couldnt get into his IPL team .Would be a joke to consider him for national team

This is a hard and quick pitch. probably the quickest in India. And hence a 'fast' bowler is important in this sort of venue.
 
This is a hard and quick pitch. probably the quickest in India. And hence a 'fast' bowler is important in this sort of venue.
Dharmashala is seamers wicket .Bangalore was the hard and quick pitch and he couldnt hold a place playing for Bangalore
 
Full strength batting line up for India in T20Is. I have seen it after a long time.
As they used to rest some in the past if i remember correctly.
 
Typical Dhoni team is playing.

3 trundlers and 2 spinners :facepalm:

What will Axar Patel contribute? What is the purpose of Rayadu? :facepalm:

Very ordinary team selected. If India loses a couple of quick tickets, batting will look very thin.
 
Typical Dhoni team is playing.

3 trundlers and 2 spinners :facepalm:

What will Axar Patel contribute? What is the purpose of Rayadu? :facepalm:

Very ordinary team selected. If India loses a couple of quick tickets, batting will look very thin.

Mark my words. Axar will do better than ashwin. I have seen him bowling in this venue against WI, and he was terrific.
 
Dharmashala is seamers wicket .Bangalore was the hard and quick pitch and he couldnt hold a place playing for Bangalore

Dharmasala is quicker than Bangalore. Both Yadav and Aaron had some success in IPL here. I think once, Yadav was MOM playing for DD .
 
Mark my words. Axar will do better than ashwin. I have seen him bowling in this venue against WI, and he was terrific.

Axar mostly use quick devilries instead of flighted one. So on this pitch, pace will help him out.
 
Finally. This Blockbuster series is here. Rejoice cricket fans!

It is a shame that there won't be any DRS. One bad decision already made by the umpires. :facepalm:
 
Dharmasala is quicker than Bangalore. Both Yadav and Aaron had some success in IPL here. I think once, Yadav was MOM playing for DD here.
Nope .Dharmashala isn't quicker than Bangalore .It is a great seaming wicket though
Honestly u would know that if u just watch the Ranji matches alone
 
Rohit bhai in wicket saving mode.

Ball is seaming wiht a bit of swing and Rohit is at sea.
 
Aravind is a certified A - Grade trundler. Bowls at 75 MPH from what I read about him.

He swings the ball. He is Our Santokie( that WI bowler). More importantly he is better than Unadkat, who bowls at same pace, but cant move the ball an inch.
 
Rohit plays the Indian 90's cricket. Keep blocking until you get a 4 ball in the power play overs.
 
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