South Africa finish Day 1 of the second Test against Pakistan in a commanding position at 316/4

[Farabi]

What a toothless attack - I don’t which know genius thought it would be a good idea to have two military medium floating excuses for fast bowlers

70/2 on a batting track. What else do you want?

And who are these non-military mediums? Naseem and Shaheen? They would be going at 6 RPO. Stop chasing imaginary pacers/dreams and come back to earth.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Is SA not playing their main team or their line up is really this poor? Apart from Markram and Bavuma, I haven't heard the name of anyone.

@Junaids was saying they are an emerging team with full of talent. So it must be true.

Yea South Africa in past few years had a real shift. There were series where their senior pros raised hands up so South Africa played new players. Faf, de Kock retired and others faded. Now South Africa are sort at the end of their transition phase.

 

[sweep_shot]

SA - 71/2.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Who’s bright idea was it to put Mulder at 3?

Apparently the coach thinks he has a good technique and temperament for the top-order.

 

[Human786]

cricinfo : Masood: Less grass than usual. We wanted to have a bowl. The nature of this ground is there's something in it for the bowlers in the first session. We've seen quite a number of wickets fall, the target would be that. You just have to weigh it up against is it going to that dry that it goes to the fifth day and spin comes in, so both teams got what they wanted to do. It's another opportunity to do that (achieve the goals). If we learn from that, we'll build on a lot of good stuff that we did. A lot of things went right, good team performances and also some standout individual performances and you want them to end up in the winning side. Naseem Shah is resting, Mir Hamza comes in. Like South Africa, we want to have four seamers. Seam will play a big role.
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Why did he want to bowl ?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Good bowling by Abbas. Mulder at 3 was always a questionable decision.

 

[Devadwal]

Is SA not playing their main team or their line up is really this poor? Apart from Markram and Bavuma, I haven't heard the name of anyone.

@Junaids was saying they are an emerging team with full of talent. So it must be true.

This is South Africa weakest test playing 11 since the redemption

 

[Farabi]

Nah, this is pretty much their batting. They are missing some key fast-bowlers but the batting is full-strength.

Like who? Rabada Jansen are their “key fast bowlers” and Maharaj is their main spinner. The rest are all indispensable/gravy.

 

[Rana]

Should have put Rabada at number 3

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

cricinfo : Masood: Less grass than usual. We wanted to have a bowl. The nature of this ground is there's something in it for the bowlers in the first session. We've seen quite a number of wickets fall, the target would be that. You just have to weigh it up against is it going to that dry that it goes to the fifth day and spin comes in, so both teams got what they wanted to do. It's another opportunity to do that (achieve the goals). If we learn from that, we'll build on a lot of good stuff that we did. A lot of things went right, good team performances and also some standout individual performances and you want them to end up in the winning side. Naseem Shah is resting, Mir Hamza comes in. Like South Africa, we want to have four seamers. Seam will play a big role.
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Why did he want to bowl ?

I thought the same thing when he himself said that it has "less grass than usual."

 

[Farabi]

This is South Africa weakest test playing 11 since the redemption

According to you, every team that plays Pakistan is the weakest/D/E team. You should find another trolling angle. This one has become too obvious.

 

[sweep_shot]

Who’s bright idea was it to put Mulder at 3?

To be fair, teams sometimes experiment with tailenders by promoting them up the order.

Pakistan did that with Shoaib Malik. NZ did that with James Franklin. South Africa did it with Nicky Boje.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Like who? Rabada Jansen are their “key fast bowlers” and Maharaj is their main spinner. The test are all indispensable/gravy.

Coetzee, Ngidi, Burger.

Coetzee in particular has become a very key bowler for them, playing the enforcer role.

 

[Devadwal]

According to you, every team that plays Pakistan is the weakest/D/E team. You should find another trolling angle. This one has become too obvious.

Show me a weakest South Africa playing 11 after the redemption barring NZ tour where they had sent kid's

 

[Human786]

72/3

 

[Rana]

To be fair, teams sometimes experiment with tailenders by promoting them up the order.

Pakistan did that with Shoaib Malik. NZ did that with James Franklin. South Africa did it with Nicky Boje.

Experiment but have a clear plan.

Mulder was trying to play like a genuine top order batter at 3. If the idea was to have a proper player there, then you move up guys like Stubbs and Beddingham. Otherwise Mulder just puts the foot down and attacks being a lower order player

 

[angrypathan]

Agha

 

[Farabi]

Show me a weakest South Africa playing 11 after the redemption barring NZ tour where they had sent kid's

This is the best talent they have. They’re playing WTC final. They haven’t left out ABD Amla or Steyn for this much. It’s full strength.

 

[Human786]

72/3

Pak s session .

 

[BouncerGuy]

Salman experiment works... Stubbs gone... Brilliant

 

[Rana]

Shah’s captaincy has been good

 

[mango_bite77]

Good catch by Rizwan, Stubbs gone

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Once again, lack of spin doing the trick for Agha

 

[RidiculousMan]

Should have played Noman for Mir

 

[RidiculousMan]

Playing XI for South Africa and Pakistan when they last faced each other in Cape Town (2019).

Pakistan;

1. Imam
2. Fakhar
3. Shan
4. Azhar
5. Asad
6. Babar
7. Sarfraz (c) (wk)
8. Amir
9. Yasir
10. Abbas
11. Shaheen

South Africa;

1. Markram
2. Elgar
3. Amla
4. de Bruyn
5. du Plessis (c)
6. Bavuma
7. de Kock (wk)
8. Philander
9. Rabada
10. Steyn
11. Olivier

 

[Rana]

60-0 and now 72-3

This is what happens when you take the P with the number 3 position

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

That test Salman experiment works... Stubbs gone... Brilliant

Why they didnt bowl agha in first test he would have won pak that match?

 

[m.shah]

Golden arm Agha strikes.
It's shocking how shan did not gave him single over in 1st test.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Should have played Noman for Mir

yeah, he got some significant bounce on that delivery. Noman feels more and more like a bad miss on this pitch. They should have taken an indication from South Africa's decison to include Maharaj

 

[Ahmed216]

Great catch by Kaptaana

 

[Devadwal]

This is the best talent they have. They’re playing WTC final. They haven’t left out ABD Amla or Steyn for this much. It’s full strength.

Don't deflect the question(deflection is Pakistan fans favourite words at the moment) Show me the weakest South Africa team?

I said this is weakest South Africa team and this is a true statement .

 

[Farabi]

Coetzee, Ngidi, Burger.

Coetzee in particular has become a very key bowler for them, playing the enforcer role.

Still. You do know that only 1 of them would have played right, given they already have 3 first-choice bowlers who always play in the first 11 Maharaj, Jansen and Rabada.

 

[m.shah]

Shah’s captaincy has been good

Lol someone told him to give Agha a go.

 

[Ahmed216]

Golden arm Agha strikes.
It's shocking how shan did not gave him single over in 1st test.

He was criminally under-utilised especially against the tailenders

 

[BouncerGuy]

Thread is not about WTC... Talk about this game

 

[RidiculousMan]

This is the best opportunity Shan has to score a 100 and win the game for Pakistan

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Still. You do know that only 1 of them would have played right, given they already have 3 first-choice bowlers who always play in the first 11 Maharaj, Jansen and Rabada.

Yeah but point is they are missing key fast-bowlers

 

[Rana]

Lol someone told him to give Agha a go.

It was Shan saying it. Not sure to who

 

[IAJ]

X-files Mulder experiment didn't work for Proteas. In the end a good session for Pakistan. Need to keep tight and picking up wickets.

 

[Rajdeep]

I have opened the cricinfo to check score 3 times today and all the 3 times a wicket has fallen. What is going on??

 

[Farabi]

Don't deflect the question(deflection is Pakistan fans favourite words at the moment) Show me the weakest South Africa team?

I said this is weakest South Africa team and this is a true statement .

one cannot compare across eras. They are one of 2 best teams as they are going to WTC final. If they have degraded, then so much have others

 

[Rana]

This is the best opportunity Shan has to score a 100 and win the game for Pakistan

Oh bhai let’s not get carried away.

Pakistan fans as usual act like the game is in the bag because of a few good moments

 

[hur rizvi]

SA session not because they played well but because saim got injured

 

[Ahmed216]

I have opened the cricinfo to check score 3 times today and all the 3 times a wicket has fallen. What is going on??

Pakistan being patient after a good SA start.

U need to keep doing the same. Bhai bhai

 

[Aqib_mustafa]

This is the best opportunity Shan has to score a 100 and win the game for Pakistan

Why noman is not playing knowing sa cant play spin look what agha have done in first over i thought aqib is smart enough to know spin is pak strength.

 

[Devadwal]

one cannot compare across eras. They are one of 2 best teams as they are going to WTC final. If they have degraded, then so much have others

Again wrong answer. I never asked about WTC chance because i know how they are qualified.

I ask a simple questions - does this South Africa team is weakest SA team after the redemption of South Africa cricket? Yes or no .

 

[IAJ]

SA session not because they played well but because saim got injured

Oh, kya hua use?

 

[RidiculousMan]

SA session not because they played well but because saim got injured

He'll be back. Malang Ali will fix the 'moch' in this break.

 

[TheSultan]

Seems like Pakistan’s plan is to deceive the opposition. SA getting beaten by lack of pace and lack of spin.

It normally happens here and there as a surprise. Is it a lasting strategy, heck no

 

[Deewana Mastana]

What's happened to Saim?

Is he out?

 

[RidiculousMan]

Why noman is not playing knowing sa cant play spin look what agha have done in first over i thought aqib is smart enough to know spin is pak strength.

Bad decision.

 

[daytrader]

Awesome keeping by future Kaptanaa, he's been involved in all three wickets. Hardly drops anything.

 

[Farabi]

Yeah but point is they are missing key fast-bowlers

I wouldn’t say say so. One fast bowler is missing as only 1 of them would have played.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Seems like Pakistan’s plan is to deceive the opposition. SA getting beaten by lack of pace and lack of spin.

It normally happens here and there as a surprise. Is it a lasting strategy, heck no

Apart from Miller and Klaasen in this tour. They have really struggled to play Spin.

 

[Farabi]

Again wrong answer. I never asked about WTC chance because i know how they are qualified.

I ask a simple questions - does this South Africa team is weakest SA team after the redemption of South Africa cricket? Yes or no .

It’s impossible to answer this as you cannot compare teams across eras. You can only compare a team with its contemporaries. That’s what matters

 

[IAJ]

Again wrong answer. I never asked about WTC chance because i know how they are qualified.

I ask a simple questions - does this South Africa team is weakest team after the redemption South Africa cricket? Yes or no .

Troll. What do you want? People are saying SA is going to play WTC final, so if this is the weakest SA team ever, then the other teams must really be rubbish?

 

[mominsaigol]

Seems like Pakistan’s plan is to deceive the opposition. SA getting beaten by lack of pace and lack of spin.

It normally happens here and there as a surprise. Is it a lasting strategy, heck no

Pakistan doesn't have that talent bro. Not anymore. You cant expect starc or hazlewood or boland bowling at 139 to 145 from 25 overs lol

 

[Rana]

South Africa basically sent a nightwatchman on day 1 morning session

 

[Devadwal]

Troll. What do you want? People are saying SA is going to play WTC final, so if this is the weakest SA team ever, then the other teams must really be rubbish?

Any team can qualified for WTC final .what does this do with my orginal question

 

[Rana]

This is probably the Razzaq Ferrari + calling card all of modern era

 

[Farabi]

Seems like Pakistan’s plan is to deceive the opposition. SA getting beaten by lack of pace and lack of spin.

It normally happens here and there as a surprise. Is it a lasting strategy, heck no

“Trundlers” turning it on in SA with their fun loving pace but mean control. Some people having it hard to digest because “pace is pace Yaar”.

 

[Devadwal]

It’s impossible to answer this as you cannot compare teams across eras. You can only compare a team with its contemporaries. That’s what matters

Its very easy to answer if you know the history of South Africa cricket and Their players.

 

[Farabi]

Its very easy to answer if you know the history of South Africa cricket and Their players.

I already answered. You won’t get it because you have the wrong understanding if you’re comparing cricket across eras

 

[IAJ]

Any team can qualified for WTC final .what does this do with my orginal question

Any team? Why are we not seeing a Pakistan v West Indies final then?

 

[Devadwal]

I already answered. You won’t get it because you have the wrong understanding if you’re comparing cricket across eras

When mulder is playing at 3 means this is just rubbish team.

South Africa batting line up

Markram
Rickelton
Mulder
Stubbs
Bavuma
Bedingham
Kyle Verreynne


This is weakest test batting line up in South Africa history. Lol

Its a very easy answer but as always pakistan fans DEFLECT the question.

 

[sweep_shot]

SA - 72/3 (22.5 overs).

Lunch break.

 

[Farabi]

Common “trundlers”. You’ve got it!

 

[Farabi]

Any team? Why are we not seeing a Pakistan v West Indies final then?

This same exact SA team give or take defeated India

 

[Devadwal]

Any team? Why are we not seeing a Pakistan v West Indies final then?

When a team lost against ' Bangladesh ' They how can they qualified for the WTC final .

,

 

[Devadwal]

This same exact SA team give or take defeated India

Elgar name to suna hoga hi.

 

[sweep_shot]

When mulder is playing at 3 means this is just rubbish team.

South Africa batting line up

Markram
Rickelton
Mulder
Stubbs
Bavuma
Bedingham
Kyle Verreynne


This is weakest test batting line up in South Africa history. Lol

Its a very easy answer but as always pakistan fans DEFLECT the question.

Rubbish team? They are in the WTC final.

If they are rubbish, how come India couldn't win a series against them?

 

[Nikhil_cric]

This same exact SA team give or take defeated India

Half the team was different

 

[m.shah]

I have opened the cricinfo to check score 3 times today and all the 3 times a wicket has fallen. What is going on??

Keep checking today only and don't open crinifo tomorrow for Australia inning.

 

[Devadwal]

South Africa in Current WTC cycle -

Draw at home against india (1-1)
Lost away series against NZ (0-2)
Win away series against WI ( 2-0)
Win away series against BAN ( 2-0)
Won home series against SL ( 2-0)

And last series against Pakistan bat home
Leading 1-0

I hope they win it but 100% sure they will likely to lost by an innings looking at the team batting lineup.

 

[jamie smith]

how is the pitch playing?
is it a 400 bat first pitch??

 

[BouncerGuy]

Why you guys derailing the thread with India stuff.. take that chat to some other thread please

 

[sweep_shot]

how is the pitch playing?
is it a 400 bat first pitch??

South African pitches are generally not high-scoring. I doubt it is a 400 pitch.

 

[Devadwal]

Khurram Shahzad is standout bowler so far so extra pace does help but Abbas accuracy is damn good .

 

[m.shah]

Good wicket this one

 

[imshally81]

Last 10 overs : 20/3 and RR is just 2.0