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Yet another over-hyped batsman from Pak camp. Looked worse than another hack Asif Ali against spin and slow cutters. Only in Pakistan do we see these batsmen getting such hype soon after couple of sixes? This guy has a lot of work to do and may not even in the playing XI after an year if his brainless batting approach continues.

Intent without intelligence is stupidity.
 
There is needs to be a method to batting as well even if you are playing high risk cricket. He has no method at all

His game is I'll attack and hope for the best. He premeditate a lot hence struggles against slower balls. Quality teams will work him out unless he finds a method.
 
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Yet another over-hyped batsman from Pak camp. Looked worse than another hack Asif Ali against spin and slow cutters. Only in Pakistan do we see these batsmen getting such hype soon after couple of sixes? This guy has a lot of work to do and may not even in the playing XI after an year if his brainless batting approach continues.

Intent without intelligence is stupidity.

The guy won Pakistan 3 back to back essentially knockout games.

He is absolutely new to international cricket and we don't know enough if he will be successful or not.

But we do know enough to be ready to invest in him.

Yet for some posters, he is a hack. Oh well...
 
Did looked like a tailender today on a difficult wicket , he needs proper planning and method to remain relevant in international cricket.
 
He cannot handle spin atm and he should learn that quickly or at least the management should point that out to him right now and that is what they get paid for, then work on it and get him at a top level against spin.

For now, he should look to rotate strike against spin and go after the pacers.

I hope he keeps his aggressive approach and continues to play in this manner.

Keep him in the top 3 and let him develop.
 
Yet another over-hyped batsman from Pak camp. Looked worse than another hack Asif Ali against spin and slow cutters. Only in Pakistan do we see these batsmen getting such hype soon after couple of sixes? This guy has a lot of work to do and may not even in the playing XI after an year if his brainless batting approach continues.

Intent without intelligence is stupidity.

He's young it was his first world cup he has batted better than what most people thought.
 
He did well in the games that he played in and yes he shouldn't have played that shot on the first ball Rashid played.
 
What always happens is that some unknown batsmen plays a few good shots before analysts from other teams have a chance to figure him out.

Before long there is data on exactly how to bowl to him and get him out.

When that happens they have no answer. They are not experienced enough to counter plans or have developed enough of a game at this point.

That's why Haris needs to be sent back to domestic for multiple years before being called up for anything other than a Zimbabwe or Bangladesh series.
 
Yet another over-hyped batsman from Pak camp. Looked worse than another hack Asif Ali against spin and slow cutters. Only in Pakistan do we see these batsmen getting such hype soon after couple of sixes? This guy has a lot of work to do and may not even in the playing XI after an year if his brainless batting approach continues.

Intent without intelligence is stupidity.

It's like either arsh or farsh.

The way he tried to bat in the final, one ones how the EFF can such a batsman make it all the way to Pak's national team ?? Where are the checks and balances and where is the quality control?
Even galli mohalla types could play A LOT better than that.
 
It's like either arsh or farsh.

The way he tried to bat in the final, one ones how the EFF can such a batsman make it all the way to Pak's national team ?? Where are the checks and balances and where is the quality control?
Even galli mohalla types could play A LOT better than that.

Gully Mohala players can ramp Nortje for 6?
 
Time is on his side.

He needs to increase his game awareness and his range of shots especially against spinners.

But there is hope, in fact more hope than some of the others we carried in the squad as passengers.
 
Flavour of the month at the moment with the selectors it seems.

Picked for the 21 man provisional ODI squad versus New Zealand despite averaging just 23 in the Pakistan Cup this season.
 
Flavour of the month at the moment with the selectors it seems.

Picked for the 21 man provisional ODI squad versus New Zealand despite averaging just 23 in the Pakistan Cup this season.

Perhaps, but he’s been playing in t20 mode in the Pakistan Cup. That means you’re playing high impact low value cricket.
 
After a breakthrough T20I World Cup, he's not included in the squad for the NZ ODI's.

Bad decision?
 
Flavour of the month at the moment with the selectors it seems.

Picked for the 21 man provisional ODI squad versus New Zealand despite averaging just 23 in the Pakistan Cup this season.

Poor poor average
 
Out for 6 (11) in the 1st T20I against AFG. Looked out of sorts against the moving ball
 
Out for 6 (11) in the 1st T20I against AFG. Looked out of sorts against the moving ball

Tried to smash his way out of trouble.

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Tried to smash his way out of trouble.

Tried that again

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Just another the poor man’s version of Imran nazir. And that says a lot as nazir himself wasn’t that reliable. Just tells you the new lows Pakistan batsmen have hit
 
Just another guy who has grown up watching Shahid Afridi bat. Haris looks a lot better playing proper shots instead of slogging his way out.

He'll have many 0(1)'s in his career as well ala Lala Afridi.
 
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He is suited to T10, but if we really need a hack then he is a million times better then that fraud scammer Azam Nepotism Khan.
 
It really isn't his fault. We are forcing him to run before he can walk.

We did this to Haider Ali and turned him into a blubbering mess who doesn't have a clue what he is doing.

If Pakistan really want to develop Mohammad Haris they need to stop selecting him, refuse NOC's for any external leagues and hand him a red cricket ball to make use of.
 
guy is in 2 minds at times... bhai ya to khul ke khail, ya game k hisaab se... just dont be in dbl minded brain freezes.... he should open with rizwan, babar should be #3 if rizwan falls or someone else gun blazing for #3 and babar at #4... kid has shots, just needs to self believe and value...
 
Yes weve seen that through his performances so far

He is the reason you guys harp on about playing a World Cup final

Respect the man. These little performances mean nothing. He is a proven game changer
 
We need a player like this who might fail in 2 games but will win the third game for you .
 
I would persist with him a bit longer. For t20 I am fine with a quick 30-40. I think he can do that
 
We have to manage our expectation levels with a players like Haris . He is an impact player therefore consistency will vary .

However if he can SR140-150@ 20-25 then he is definitely worth persisting with in the top order .

He will get better for sure .
 
Bit of common-sense to get things going.

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Another wild slog today.

No sense of where to hit the ball or where the fielder was.

Very disappointing.
 
He isn't ready.

You wouldn't blame a goose for being a quarter cooked. You'd blame the chef.

Management need to actually apply some vision here and ensure a clearly talented youngster focuses on domestic cricket as opposed to losing confidence in internationals.
 
He isn't ready.

You wouldn't blame a goose for being a quarter cooked. You'd blame the chef.

Management need to actually apply some vision here and ensure a clearly talented youngster focuses on domestic cricket as opposed to losing confidence in internationals.
He relies on timing the ball rather than brute force, and he will struggle more often than not on these wickets where the ball doesn’t come onto the bat. Relies more on bat speed than getting into good positions to manoeuvre the ball.

Still young, will learn. Good attacking cricketer who will come good eventually.
 
The pitch didn't suit his batting style however that should not be an excuse.
 
A very poor tour and seems like he has gone backwards from the player who was so refreshing in the WC.

Is only 21 and can get better but needs to balance his aggression with more control , which will come hopefully in time the more he plays and works on his game .
 
I don’t mind aggression but just see how Saim Ayub plays. There is day and light between Haris & Saim.

For now I think we should keep Haris in the T20 side and hope he learns. He is a decent keeper and is also fit, unlike some of the fatsos & scammers of this world.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear my nation. Not the result we wanted. I am responsible as I did not provide a good start for my team. Really sorry but we will learn from this experience and come back stronger In ShAA Allah.</p>— Muhammad Haris (@iamharis63) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamharis63/status/1640493711518834694?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Former Pakistan cricketer, Ramiz Raja, believes Haris is always in a hurry and can't remain calm until he plays an outrageous shot.

“Mohammad Haris has a problem of ant in pants. He is always ready to play a risky shot. You can’t keep scoring 10 or 15 runs,” Raja said on his YouTube channel.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Dear my nation. Not the result we wanted. I am responsible as I did not provide a good start for my team. Really sorry but we will learn from this experience and come back stronger In ShAA Allah.</p>— Muhammad Haris (@iamharis63) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamharis63/status/1640493711518834694?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Former Pakistan cricketer, Ramiz Raja, believes Haris is always in a hurry and can't remain calm until he plays an outrageous shot.

“Mohammad Haris has a problem of ant in pants. He is always ready to play a risky shot. You can’t keep scoring 10 or 15 runs,” Raja said on his YouTube channel.

Do we need an apology? Dude relax get on with it. It’s life

Dunya hai
Dhanda hai
Chalta hai
Chalta hai
 
Haris is a top Alpha. Has ice in his veins. I would like to see him succeed. No problem with his wild slogs. Its mickey mouse cricket, you have to take the game on.
 
I think you just have to accept Haris for what he is. He’s not a long innings player, he goes out there and tries to smash the majority of balls. He reminds me of a younger and more talented Asif Ali. Which is great for us, if we had got hold of asif when he was young think he would have turned out a decent player.

Saim is obviously a more allround player, but will struggle to be that power hitter Haris will be, he’s more in the mold of Babar Azam. Maybe Saim could be a bit better power player than Babar but there’s a gulf between him and Haris in that area.

I think you can’t force players to be something they are not, we learnt that with Umar Akmal. You just make the best use of them despite their flaws. Even with Babar and Rizwan that is the case.

I think he’s too inconsistent to open right now, no one plays pinch hitters up the order, we need consistent starts. If you look other teams the openers are averaging 30 while the riskier high SR lower average are usually mid/ low order. Probably why Peshawar moved Haris down to swap with Saim. I think Saim has better potential to open. As does Fakhar if he can finally bring his PSL form to internationals. I think 3 or 4 is ideal for Haris, but if he gets forced out by other performers like fakhar or Saim, I think he could even do the job lower down at 5 or 6.

If he can be that batsman who has low 20s average at SR 150, that will be an asset for us right now.
 
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Jos Buttler after his first 10 T20i’s:

36 runs. Average 7. Strike rate 80

If he was Pakistani, he would have been dropped after 3 games and labelled a ‘fraud’ or that he needs more ‘experience’

We need to be patient with Saim, Haris, Abdullah, Tayyab & Azam. They will learn.
 
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Plagiarised from HazHaroon on twitter, but still relevant:

Jos Buttler after his first 10 T20i’s:

36 runs. Average 7. Strike rate 80

If he was Pakistani, he would have been dropped after 3 games and labelled a ‘fraud’ or that he needs more ‘experience’

We need to be patient with Saim, Haris, Abdullah, Tayyab & Azam. They will learn.

England have fantastic coaches and their players develop faster than ours do.

So many of our talents that emerged 2-3 years ago are still stuck.

If Haris is playing hacks now, the chances are he will still be hacking in a few years whereas Jos developed into a different beast.

How we change Haris's trajectory from 'slogger' into 'aggressive batsman' is the question.
 
I think you just have to accept Haris for what he is. He’s not a long innings player, he goes out there and tries to smash the majority of balls. He reminds me of a younger and more talented Asif Ali. Which is great for us, if we had got hold of asif when he was young think he would have turned out a decent player.

Saim is obviously a more allround player, but will struggle to be that power hitter Haris will be, he’s more in the mold of Babar Azam. Maybe Saim could be a bit better power player than Babar but there’s a gulf between him and Haris in that area.

I think you can’t force players to be something they are not, we learnt that with Umar Akmal. You just make the best use of them despite their flaws. Even with Babar and Rizwan that is the case.

I think he’s too inconsistent to open right now, no one plays pinch hitters up the order, we need consistent starts. If you look other teams the openers are averaging 30 while the riskier high SR lower average are usually mid/ low order. Probably why Peshawar moved Haris down to swap with Saim. I think Saim has better potential to open. As does Fakhar if he can finally bring his PSL form to internationals. I think 3 or 4 is ideal for Haris, but if he gets forced out by other performers like fakhar or Saim, I think he could even do the job lower down at 5 or 6.

If he can be that batsman who has low 20s average at SR 150, that will be an asset for us right now.

For Haris to SR at 145- and average in the low 20s. Coupled with his wicketkeeping will definitely be an asset . Impact is the name of the game in this format .
 
Jos Buttler after his first 10 T20i’s:

36 runs. Average 7. Strike rate 80

If he was Pakistani, he would have been dropped after 3 games and labelled a ‘fraud’ or that he needs more ‘experience’

We need to be patient with Saim, Haris, Abdullah, Tayyab & Azam. They will learn.

Tayyab has no future he’s an awful bat same with azam khan. Though he’s more talented than tayyab.
 
What always happens is that some unknown batsmen plays a few good shots before analysts from other teams have a chance to figure him out.

Before long there is data on exactly how to bowl to him and get him out.

When that happens they have no answer. They are not experienced enough to counter plans or have developed enough of a game at this point.

That's why Haris needs to be sent back to domestic for multiple years before being called up for anything other than a Zimbabwe or Bangladesh series.

That is exactly what happened, got lucky initially as he hadn’t been seen before. This typically short, skinny, powerless leg-side hack, was found out in Australia by the end of the tournament, even by spinners. Anyone who claims they know anything about cricket and want him in the national team needs to question their credentials. There are FAR better options out there, even in Pakistan and its current coaching-induced talent drought.
 
That is exactly what happened, got lucky initially as he hadn’t been seen before. This typically short, skinny, powerless leg-side hack, was found out in Australia by the end of the tournament, even by spinners. Anyone who claims they know anything about cricket and want him in the national team needs to question their credentials. There are FAR better options out there, even in Pakistan and its current coaching-induced talent drought.

Seems you're spewing a lot of negativity throughout these forums, repeating pretty much the same rhetoric for other top talents like Saim.

Not sure why being 'short' is an issue, but anyhow if you'd watched Haris bat you'd realise he's anything but powerless. He has immense bat speed and reflexes allowing him to hit 6s with ease. Being 'small' in stature doesn't necessarily result in lack of power.

Could you please enlighten us as to the better options out there?
 
Seems you're spewing a lot of negativity throughout these forums, repeating pretty much the same rhetoric for other top talents like Saim.

Not sure why being 'short' is an issue, but anyhow if you'd watched Haris bat you'd realise he's anything but powerless. He has immense bat speed and reflexes allowing him to hit 6s with ease. Being 'small' in stature doesn't necessarily result in lack of power.

Could you please enlighten us as to the better options out there?

‘Spewing’…hmm..let’s keep this civil. I’d suggest you look at your team’s performances in all formats recently, absolutely hopeless, the ‘negativity’, as you put it, is entirely justified. Should we be positive about losing to everybody, including a war-torn neighbour with no infrastructure, let alone cricketing infrastructure?

The jury is out on Saim, he’s certainly being pushed by some and I think it’s somewhat premature.

I’ve said it before to others and I’ll say it again, desist from the condescension, I’ve watched more cricket than you could ever dream of. As for the relevance of ‘short’:

A short batsman has a number of problems compared to an equally-capable taller batsman. Firstly, the shorter batsman doesn’t have the same mass or length of levers to get as much power into their shot, they therefore have to go further into their range of power by making a greater effort to hit the ball harder (by swinging harder/faster) or by having to run down the wicket to get more momentum into the shot or employing a higher backlift to get the ball the same distance as a taller batsman, they are, therefore, more likely to lose their form and lose control of the shot and hence lose their wicket. This lack of leverage is compounded by their lack of (fitness-induced) mass which is also a key component of hitting power. This is a fine example of why the western coaching manual methodology works for the western sides, but is so detrimental to your own and why you should exercise caution when employing their metrics. They are taller on average and are predisposed to having a higher lean muscle mass. Reducing weight through excessive fitness training for those who are predisposed to having higher body fat and lower muscle mass will result in a more detrimental loss of muscle mass.

Secondly, the shorter batsman will, of course, have a shorter stride. Pakistani batsman have, over the years, employed limited footwork, they tend not to get to the pitch of the ball and negate movement of the ball, resulting in greater likelihood of dismissal, particularly in conditions where lateral movement is on offer. A forward stride from a short batsman, even if they attempt to employ the forward press, for example, may not be sufficient to get to the pitch of the ball and therein lies the problem.

Thirdly, and given the propensity for current western bowlers to be on the tall side, a short batsman is likely to be playing a normal length delivery in the corridor outside off from such a bowler from above their waist and with little room to free their arms and hence their scoring opportunities, without taking risks, are far more limited. A taller batsman would have no such problem or certainly not to the same extent, hence why you see short batsman relatively unable to get on top of the ball, play the ball on the ground etc…and why you see such batsman so readily caught behind or the ball spooning up in the air when attempting a cut, pull or hook. They simply won’t have the same level of control over the shot, the ability to get on top of the ball and play it safely nor the same opportunity to score. I’m sure you’ve seen Pakistan play and have wondered at times why, particularly when they play the western teams, they go through phases where they look they’re about to collapse at any given moment and seem incapable of scoring runs like many other teams. This is why.

Whilst the majority of batsman will, and should be, on the average to taller side, there will always be exceptions like Brian Lara or Saeed Anwar whose hand-eye coordination, reflexes, timing, methodology, power and ability to see the ball and pick the length early are so exceptional that they counteract their physical deficiencies and can get away with cutting, hooking and pulling all day, playing with safety, risky shots for other short batsman, but they are the exception for short batsman, not the rule.

I’ve seen enough of Haris to know that, as things currently stand, he’ll be garbage in the medium-long term in international cricket. He’s a leg-side hack of the most extreme kind. He has no power, he just uses the the pace of the ball on the leg-side. Tie him up just outside off, even with a spinner and don’t give him room to free his arms and he’s hopeless. I’m slightly more on the fence somewhat with Saim, I’m worried that when he has to play in test match mode he may well fail, he doesn’t seem to know where his off stump is nor does he seem to have a natural off-side game.

As for other options, I’ve made my thought on that clear in the bench strength thread, you’ve had numerous potential world-class batsman appear in recent years and have ruined virtually all of them. In fact, you should have had what is comfortably the best side in the world, but your domestic coaches don’t know what they’re doing.
 
I hope he doesn't go in the direction Haider Ali has.

Showing promise, then becoming a batter who keeps throwing his wicket away. He's better than that and I just hope he can keep on improving.
 
Finally gets a game in the 5th T20I, and just announced that he has now been added to the ODI squad too.
 
Where was this announced

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Shot of the series perhaps? Mohammad Haris' six today in the 4th ODI vs NZ

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Shot of the series perhaps? Mohammad Haris' six today in the 4th ODI vs NZ

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Bundle of potential this guy. Hope he is groomed properly. I know that’s a lot to ask for from our pathetic domestic circuit, which is why I don’t mind him traveling with the team, even if it’s just playing dead rubbers and only going back to domestic for the FC seasons.
 
This guy has far more upside vs Rizwan as a batsman. He is capable of playing all around vs being a leg side hack. He is definitely my favorite wk bat as of now to replace Rizwan (hopefully sooner than later). He however does need to add patience, and avoid unnecessary predetermined shots.
 
He is a better option than Saim ayub in the middle order for T20Is
 
This guy has far more upside vs Rizwan as a batsman. He is capable of playing all around vs being a leg side hack. He is definitely my favorite wk bat as of now to replace Rizwan (hopefully sooner than later). He however does need to add patience, and avoid unnecessary predetermined shots.

He has to either open or bat at 6.
 
He has to either open or bat at 6.

If he adds a little bit of patience, he will be a treat to watch if gets a chance to open in T20 for sure with Saim. He can be in the middle order for time being in longer formats. His ListA average is very decent as a wk bat at almost 31 in 34 games. Hopefully, he will be able to build stronger resume’ as the time passes.
 
Mohammad Haris:

Added to the originally announced squad, played one game, then dropped.
 
I'm surprised that he's only played 1 ODI against New Zealand.

Could have played him anywhere in the top 6.
 
I'm surprised that he's only played 1 ODI against New Zealand.

Could have played him anywhere in the top 6.

Seems compulsory to play Shan as opener.
 
I’d have in place of Salman agha we a proper finisher at 6 not a domestic level bully Salman agha who will be exposed in the World Cup against better attacks.
 
I’d have in place of Salman agha we a proper finisher at 6 not a domestic level bully Salman agha who will be exposed in the World Cup against better attacks.

Agha has more utility due to his bowling.

If you are playing as a specialist batter in ODIs you need to have the ability to last 15-20 overs if needed. I am just not sure Haris can be relied for that role just yet. He tries to play too cute for my liking.
 
Mohammad Haris in an interview:

“I need to become more patient as a batter and this is something I’m working in the ongoing training camp,”

“I can hit fours and sixes but I need to add singles and doubles to my game as well. I’m working on improving my ground shots,”

“I want to play all formats for Pakistan. Just because I play at a fast rate doesn’t mean that I’m only suited to T20 cricket. Players like Rishabh Pant play at the same pace in all formats of the game. Even Adam Gilchrist in the past used to do the same,”

“Rizwan is the first choice as wicketkeeper for Pakistan team. There is always stiff competition for the role of wicketkeeper in a team, which is precisely the reason why I’m trying to become a better fielder so that I can play in the team purely as a batter,”

“I learn a lot from Rizwan about the game. Whenever I’m not able to perform well, Rizwan is usually the first person to support me. He also gave me many opportunities when we used to play for Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,”

“Pakistan’s fast bowlers are the best in the world which helps us a lot during the training sessions. During the T20 World Cup, playing our bowlers made it easier for me to face the opponents’ pacers,”
 
What's the point of playing him in the XI and not make him open? This was the perfect chance.
 
One of the worst international innings I've seen. Sorry but this guy's ceiling is a T20 pinch hitter.

So much premeditation in his batting with no real basic technique.

If it wasn't bad enough that he was positioned at 5, he was listed as an opener in the original XI !
 
What's the point of playing him in the XI and not make him open? This was the perfect chance.
He shouldn't be in the ODi squad.
The temperament he got, only T20 suits him.

Saud Shakeel should have been in his place.
 
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