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West Indies v Australia | 1st test | Kingston, Jamaica | starting from May 22nd 2008

They are turning the corner. With Taylor and Gayle in they have a decent all round team. Batting is still a little light , the the taylor, powell , edwards and bravo bowling attack is excellent.
 
saffer said:
They are turning the corner. With Taylor and Gayle in they have a decent all round team. Batting is still a little light , the the taylor, powell , edwards and bravo bowling attack is excellent.
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+ jaggernauth :D

with samuels it would have even been a stronger team

powell doesnt impress me though :9:
 
TruSachFan said:
+ jaggernauth :D

with samuels it would have even been a stronger team

powell doesnt impress me though :9:
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Powell is a strange one, some days he comes out and bowls with pace and fire and looks great. Somedays he just jogs in and puts it there.... :20:
 
Random Aussie said:
Powell is a strange one, some days he comes out and bowls with pace and fire and looks great. Somedays he just jogs in and puts it there.... :20:
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yeah he is a bit of a confidence bowler. Its about time that 3 of them(Taylor, Edwards, Powell) start winning test matches for the WI
 
Great fighting performance from the Windies - it's been a while since I've seen OZ 5 down for 20 or whatever lol. Tomorrow should be a gripping final day!
 
Morton is key.
If one of the second string stands up and makes 80 odd, the others will know they can win.

But who am I kidding? Cricket ain't no fairytale.
 
+ jaggernauth

with samuels it would have even been a stronger team

powell doesnt impress me though
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I haven't seen him...I don't have a link. I'd be very grateful for anyone to provide me with a link for this game...I have to watch the final day play out.

Powell has got it all...pace , movement , aggression .....as these bowlers grow in reputation so will their careers blossom. West Indies now have strike bowlers...people who can take wickets any time ....not medium pace trundlers .

If Samuels could play it would make that batting look a lot better....chanderpaul , sarwan and gayle can't do it alone. What happened to Ganga...? He was shaky , but always showed potential .
 
ha ha ha...ok..let me do that .

Just saw the highlights on youtube. Fantastic to see the west indies playing with some fire with good crowds . Injects some much needed charisma and flair into the game.
 
TruSachFan said:
+ jaggernauth :D

with samuels it would have even been a stronger team

powell doesnt impress me though :9:
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WITH SAMUELS IT WOULD BE WEAKER...he is a ranked failure :9:

but he got a god father :12: somewhere that keeps him in the side.


Morton is far better. :19: ..the ban on samuels is a blessing in disguise :D
 
saffer said:
I haven't seen him...I don't have a link. I'd be very grateful for anyone to provide me with a link for this game...I have to watch the final day play out.

Powell has got it all...pace , movement , aggression .....as these bowlers grow in reputation so will their careers blossom. West Indies now have strike bowlers...people who can take wickets any time ....not medium pace trundlers .

If Samuels could play it would make that batting look a lot better....chanderpaul , sarwan and gayle can't do it alone. What happened to Ganga...? He was shaky , but always showed potential .
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samuels equals....the making of a next carl hooper....a promising failure :pissed:

with a test average in the 30s :po: . good to get rid of samuels i believe his average is in the 20s :12:

Ganga ...another tried tested and failed. :19: ..average of mid 20s after 40 matches......hope he stays out :pissed:
 
Samuels recently played some great innings against South Africa that gave me the idea he was about the break through in being consistant. He's talented for sure .
 
saffer said:
Samuels recently played some great innings against South Africa that gave me the idea he was about the break through in being consistant. He's talented for sure .
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anytime there is talk in the air about dropping samuels....he performs :9:


good talent i agree :19: but i look at a players overall matches.

he did crap against sri lanka recently.....same old story :12:
 
Totally agree - Shamwells has a frailty about him which is exasperating.
Runako has a bit more steel in him, although the short stuff does make him very very nervous.

When you're chasing 246 on last day, it helps if someonce can score a quickfire 70 early on - like Sarwan did back in th Antigua 418 chase.

Who's your bet to play a blinder? Ramdin perhaps?
 
Perth93 said:
Totally agree - Shamwells has a frailty about him which is exasperating.
Runako has a bit more steel in him, although the short stuff does make him very very nervous.

When you're chasing 246 on last day, it helps if someonce can score a quickfire 70 early on - like Sarwan did back in th Antigua 418 chase.

Who's your bet to play a blinder? Ramdin perhaps?
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Bravo :19:
 
india_fan said:
Bravo :19:
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No way, Bravo needs to be there with the last four if they're left to chase around 120.
Ramdin is more expendable - doesnt do much at number 8 anyway.

Yorkerdude, how about Sammy? What kinda batter is he?
 
Perth93 said:
No way, Bravo needs to be there with the last four if they're left to chase around 120.
Ramdin is more expendable - doesnt do much at number 8 anyway.

Yorkerdude, how about Sammy? What kinda batter is he?
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sammy aint too bad....but would prefer to see the top 5 do the job than

depend on sammy :19:
 
Sarawan out off Clark's bowling

Windies 55-2
 
What a horrible misjudgement from Devon Smith, leaving a ball that pitched on middle stump.

Gone LBW to Clark.

60-3 and windies slipping now.
 
24.1 Clark to Smith, OUT, Clark takes out Smith. No shot offered by the southpaw! What a start for Australia. It landed on the middle and off stump line, Smith moved his front foot forward and horror of horrors shouldered arms. The ball shaped in to rap him dead plumb in front of middle. West Indies are wobbling here.

DS Smith lbw b Clark 28 (77b 3x4 0x6) SR: 36.36

WI 60-3 need 227 runs to win
 
Clark's parents were born in India where they lived 20 years, 15 years in England before they settled in Australia. Clark: "I suppose you could say they had quite a poor upbringing. That's the biggest thing (I've learnt); I try not to take things for granted in anything I do. I would never take playing cricket for granted because I know how hard my parents worked and how hard other people work who are not given the opportunity that I was given"

During Clark's debut, Merv Hughes told him about the baggy green cap.. Said Clark : "Merv gave me my hat and said a few nice words. He said 'On this cap there's an emu and a kangaroo and none of them can go backwards, make sure you don't, though we know you won't."

WI 66-3 after 31 overs - need 221 more to win
 
31.5 Lee to Morton, OUT, Lee gets his revenge. Sweet. Full, straight, fast and cutting in from just outside off stump, Morton goes for his booming drive, the bat comes outside the line and the ball strikes him in front of the off. Lee is pumped up. The crowd fall silent. Australia are on the attack here. Lee is mobbed by his team-mates.

RS Morton lbw b Lee 9 (30b 2x4 0x6) SR: 30.00

WI 74-4
 
Morton is out leg before to Brett Lee.

74 for 4 and the Windies facing defeat in Jamaica, unless Chanders can perform miracles.
 
This would be so much more interesting if Lara was there. Those 212 runs required look very far away.
 
clark is getting a fair bit of movement ... a real struggle for the windies to even draw from here on.
 
baravo gone !!

this match may not even last till tea !
 
kashif77 said:
baravo gone !!

this match may not even last till tea !
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chanders gone ..

correction ... they might not even last till lunch :P
 
Chanderpaul joins the rest of the batsmen on the slide, WI bowling has really picked up but the batting is as woeful as ever.
 
Aussies havent done anything special.

Windies have been the 'Kings of the Callapso' today.

Should al be over in the next hour
 
YOu can have 2 teams that are evenly balanced going into the final day with all results possible.

But its about NERVE and MENTAL approach.

NZ lost theirs earlier on last night...

Windies bottled it today.
 
I was looking forward to settling in front of the tv tonight and watching an intriguing final day, them damn Aussies had to ruin it didnt they :)
 
seems like some member is writing to cricinfo

Mick is still fuming at Katich. Written just prior to Chanders' dismissal. "I can't believe they selected Katich for this match. He really is a lost cause and that has been proven in this match 13 runs in 2 innings and a potentially match losing dropped catch.....how can Katich get a game based on his state form and Bevan and Jones couldn't in the past...someone loves him on the selection panel if you ask me...more NSW [New South Wales] bias...."
 
Sparhawk said:
Looks like the years have been really harsh on stuart Mcgill.
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he's trying to emulate everything about warne

(including his physique)

:16:
 
Macgill and Johnson effectively replaced Warne and McGrath - and the huge drop in quality (MacGill was once a great bowler but he looks pretty rubbish now) is showing. If the West Indies can see off Lee and Clark better in the remaining games (return of Gayle should help), they may have a chance of a more positive result.
 
West Indies will be kicking themselves right now, a 3 or 4 in the wickets column and they'd still have a chance of winning this.
 
Whippy said:
West Indies will be kicking themselves right now, a 3 or 4 in the wickets column and they'd still have a chance of winning this.
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Certainly if Chanders had stayed then it would have been interesting, though still difficult. At the moment, this partnership is just an annoyance to Australia, it will be broken sooner or later
 
149/7

Run out of all things

Ramdin out for 36

Was good resistance, winning was out of the question pretty much
 
57.1 Lee to Sammy, 2 runs, dropped by Jaques. difficult catch. Banged in short from wide of the crease, pulled in the air and Jaques was a touch late in reacting, started late, ran in from deep square leg, dived forward but couldn't get his palms under the ball.

WI 164-7 - need 125 more to win
 
cars112 said:
149/7

Run out of all things

Ramdin out for 36

Was good resistance, winning was out of the question pretty much
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It was an amazing piece of fielding by MacGill. Where did that come from given how shockingly badly he's bowling?
 
Clark 8 wickets for 82 runs thus far.

What a brilliant performance !

Lee and co. are amateurs compared to him.
 
Edwards is on but he is not on strike. Lee is bowling. Need a single from Powell
 
Edwards was turning down an easy single if powell hadn't pushed it. I don't think edwards is too keen on facing lee right now.
 
All over .. BS umpiring from Tiffen at the end !!!

Clark MoM.

Ozzie bowling was pretty lifeless aside from him.
 
Juggy D out ct at short leg off MacGill
Australia win by 95
MacGill on Hat-trick
 
All over. Two in two balls, both SHOCKING decisions by Tiffin. MacGill undeservedly finishes with two wickets.
 
Tiffen trying to pick up where Hair left off ?


Some things never change.

Bullsh!t ending to an otherwise great match.
 
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66.6 MacGill to Jaggernauth, OUT, Australia have won by 95 runs. Jaggernauth goes for a first-ball duck. It spun in to him, past the bat and bounded off the pad to short leg. No bat there, definitely. Aussies appeal very confidently and Tiffin raised his finger. That's that
AS Jaggernauth c Jaques b MacGill 0 (1b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0.00

66.5 MacGill to Powell, OUT, MacGill gets his first wicket. Powell stands there for a brief moment before he walks away. It was a loopy flighted one, turning from the middle stump, Powell goes for a drive and the tv replay doesn't show an edge. There must have been sound for the umpire to have given it. Many a time, the replays don't show such edges, we need a snickometer or the hot spot.
DBL Powell c Haddin b MacGill 27 (35b 6x4 0x6) SR: 77.14
 
kashif77 said:
Bullsh!t ending to an otherwise great match.
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I agree. Two enjoyable Test matches.

Even my wife who supposedly doesn't like cricket got into both these games to a degree.

As a biased Englishman I'm encouraged by how ordinary the Australians looked in this game. MacGill was awful today. He doesn't look like a long-term (or even short-term) option to carry on where Warne left off, and unless they can find someone to replace him, their seamers are going to have a very heavy workload. I think they're seriously going to need to take a look at playing an extra bowler, because they won't win many Test matches against top sides playing like that.
 
Nadia said:
Not again WINDIES :( :( :(
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To be fair, they pushed the Aussies hard. The WI are trying to climb back up and while a win or draw would have been the desired result, this is not necessarily a case of going backwards. Gayle will be back in the next game I believe and maybe Taylor too, the team will only get stronger
 
Right .. Australia have one amazing bowler in Clark and another good one in Lee .. but their remaining bowlers are pretty ordinary.

Against top competition, it will be difficult to win with only two quality bowlers (particularly considering the fading of Australia's once dominant batting).
 
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cars112 said:
To be fair, they pushed the Aussies hard. The WI are trying to climb back up and while a win or draw would have been the desired result, this is not necessarily a case of going backwards. Gayle will be back in the next game I believe and maybe Taylor too, the team will only get stronger
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They've certainly to quote the old cliche got plenty of positives they can take out of this game. Edwards bowled at a pace I haven't seen from him since he broke Graham Thorpe's finger during a ferocious spell at Old Trafford a few years back.

They're a young team and can get better. They definitely weren't outclassed by the world's number 1 team, and that alone is cause for West Indian supporters to be optimistic.
 
Big Harvey said:
They're a young team and can get better. They definitely weren't outclassed by the world's number 1 team, and that alone is cause for West Indian supporters to be optimistic.
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Indeed. The way I see it, Windies had hit rock bottom between 2005-07, when they didn't win a single test. The improvement started when they won a Test in South Africa, though they lost the series (severely hit by injuries, mind). It continued with a 1-1 draw at home to a decent Lankan team. Now, as you say, they weren't outclassed by the no.1 side and have two key players returning for the next test.

The really big issue is whether they can sustain this improvement, because if they do, they will eventually start drawing more and more series and eventually win one. But this will require a lot of hard work in the nets, training, on their games, not to mention remaining focused as a unit. Are the West Indian players ready to put in that work? Time will tell.
 
12thMan said:
seems like some member is writing to cricinfo

Mick is still fuming at Katich. Written just prior to Chanders' dismissal. "I can't believe they selected Katich for this match. He really is a lost cause and that has been proven in this match 13 runs in 2 innings and a potentially match losing dropped catch.....how can Katich get a game based on his state form and Bevan and Jones couldn't in the past...someone loves him on the selection panel if you ask me...more NSW [New South Wales] bias...."
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My name's not Mick by the way. That might be Random Aussie. :)))
 
Big Harvey said:
All over. Two in two balls, both SHOCKING decisions by Tiffin. MacGill undeservedly finishes with two wickets.
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Russell Theifinn strikes!!
 
Nadia said:
Not again WINDIES :( :( :(
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yep sadly one more :(


though im disappointed at the loss im glad it was not one sided al the way...we made the aussis fight hard for the win. :14:


if wasnt for those poor decisions by umpire THIEFING :)))

WHO KNOWS MIGHT HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT :20:

but take nothing away from the world champs...they showed y they r :14:

hope we improve in the next game :13:

sorry i could not be on line for commentary :(

bloddy server was moving like a snail
 
Inswinging Yorker said:
but take nothing away from the world champs...they showed y they r :14:

hope we improve in the next game :13:
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Nothing to be too shattered about, mate, the WI acquitted themselves well, and as you say, Australia showed just why they are the world champs. The WI are on the long journey back to competitiveness, and this was in no way a performance that took them backwards.
 
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