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Ajinkya Rahane (104*) leads from the front as India reach 277/5 on Day 2 of 2nd Test vs Australia

Pant

In Aus - 54
In Eng - 27
In NZ - 15
In WI - 19

If he plays all the tests in this series. His average against Aus will go down too. He was lucky he didn't play in the first test and wasn't made the scapegoat. :inti
Whoever played first test were unlucky.
 
Wonderful comeback! from Indian batsmen after the horror performance of 36 in first

This comeback shows why India have been the top 2 test team in recent years, any mediocre team would have perished after such a performance in the series but India fought back and are in commanding position to try and win and square the series

Wonderful Cricket by Indian Batsmen
 
The way Travis Head dropped Rahane, if it had been desi teams:

India: By now the unfortunate players' house would have been pelted with a few stones.

Pakistan: Former players and current politicians would demand an inquiry, with some ex-cricketers speaking confidently (and not so confidentially) of a fix.

Bangladesh: Everyone would be laughing their heads off, with ready to go memes. Sehwag would be upping his tweeting game.

Sri Lanka: I guess they'd just shrug and move on.

No offence to anyone.... it's a fun cricket.
 
Obviously 50 averaging doesn't mean 50 in every game but he is currently averaging 38 which means he is not living up to the hype. Either don't overhype an average player to the moon or get ready to hear criticism for him lol. :inti
A wicketkeepr averaging 38 in tests is brilliant and you know it. You keep pretending you like testts but obviously know nothing about it

And also the lie about hyping him to.the moon when evryoje just said he deserves place in XI over likes of Saha
 
Pant

In Aus - 54
In Eng - 27
In NZ - 15
In WI - 19

If he plays all the tests in this series. His average against Aus will go down too. He was lucky he didn't play in the first test and wasn't made the scapegoat. :inti

Dhoni doesn't have a SINGLE 100 in Aus, England, west indies, South Africa, sri lanka and New Zealand. Never saw you going after him. No stats or mental gymnastics there. But targeting a 23 year old who scored 100 and 150 in hs first tours of England and austrlia and claiming to be a test cricket fan
 
Exceptional performance by the stand in skipper, whose led from the front with bat and his proactive approach in the field as a captain. He should take the reigns from kohli on a permanent basis to release the heavy burden on the star bat.
 
If we win this match then [MENTION=150610]tyron_woodley[/MENTION]'s theory of 'win the toss, win the match' will once again be proven wrong. :inti

It'll be proven wrong only twice then. Anyway I think he was talking about the advantage of winning the toss in Australia which is a fact:inti
 
Some indian fans are getting a bit too cocky here. I am sensing a steve smith masterclass in second innings. Remember Aus vere 100+ down in the ashes and smith scored a 211. Ind dont have a very good tail either.
And ball tampering allegations for the last match are truly ridiculous and am baffled how many excuses some people make. A truly losers mentality.
It was a new ball and the ball was'nt doing a lot. It was swinging just enough to caught the outside edge

Yes we know that. Ball tampering is a legit question. Its not like Aussies haven't done it in the past. They are more than capable of doing it again.
Its always questionable. They are cheaters of the highest order.

Anyway india are under strength. It will be interesting though because this indian side has good bowling. Batting now with good left right combo might make a difference however Aussies definitely have the better batting for Aussie conditions.
 
Wonderful comeback! from Indian batsmen after the horror performance of 36 in first

This comeback shows why India have been the top 2 test team in recent years, any mediocre team would have perished after such a performance in the series but India fought back and are in commanding position to try and win and square the series

Wonderful Cricket by Indian Batsmen

Dude india aren't full strength. What they have done so far is impressive. Let's see if they can do the same in second innings.
 
India are in a great position here.

Australia need Smith and Labuschange to turn up to have any chance.
 
A wicketkeepr averaging 38 in tests is brilliant and you know it. You keep pretending you like testts but obviously know nothing about it

And also the lie about hyping him to.the moon when evryoje just said he deserves place in XI over likes of Saha

Specially when he didn't get home Tests to boost his tally
 
Impressive by India today, and I must say unexpectedly so given that Kohli is not there.
 
Having lost too many players to injury India have done very well as they have won 4 out of 4.5 day's play so far in this series!
 
The way Gill batted yesterday I thought he would go on to score a double century and pujara at least 150...now I have no hopes as we lost 5 wkts with just 80 ahead....this is now Australia's match to lose ...smith is going to score 200 in the 2nd innings
 
Top knock from Rahane making his team a firm favourite here.
 
It's only a matter of time before smith and Labu will go big. We need a huge lead but as we are already 5 down that's tough. Another 70 runs might put Aussies under some kind of pressure but knowing how fragile our last 3 batters are we could fold quickly with a meager 100 run lead.
 
Dude india aren't full strength. What they have done so far is impressive. Let's see if they can do the same in second innings.

India is in very strong position to win this test match, IMO Australia has to do something very special with the bat this time as I think their bowling alone like in Adelaide wouldn't be enough this time and the Australian batsmen will be under immense pressure of whatever the lead India gets in first innings

Australia has to put up a very special performance with the bat in 2nd innings to make a comeback, this time I think its the batting that can make Australia comeback in this test match more than its bowling so a big advantage to India
 
The way Gill batted yesterday I thought he would go on to score a double century and pujara at least 150...now I have no hopes as we lost 5 wkts with just 80 ahead....this is now Australia's match to lose ...smith is going to score 200 in the 2nd innings

Yesterday you were like a scared kitten and having doubts about india going over 36 again and now talking about heightened expectations today lol
 
Top innings from Rahane though, was about time. His best knock in the past 2 years.

Last two years? I think this is his best knock. Period. Against this attack, under unreal pressure, right after the 36 a/o....

It would end up as one of the best knocks ever by an Indian if we end up winning this test.
 
India is in very strong position to win this test match, IMO Australia has to do something very special with the bat this time as I think their bowling alone like in Adelaide wouldn't be enough this time and the Australian batsmen will be under immense pressure of whatever the lead India gets in first innings

Australia has to put up a very special performance with the bat in 2nd innings to make a comeback, this time I think its the batting that can make Australia comeback in this test match more than its bowling so a big advantage to India

Steve Smith says HI :smith
 
It'll be proven wrong only twice then. Anyway I think he was talking about the advantage of winning the toss in Australia which is a fact:inti

Got any data to prove the significance of the toss affecting results in Australia?

Over the last 23 tests in Australia (2016-17 to date), 12 times the team that has won the toss has not gone on to win the match. Suggests to me that only imbeciles harp on about the toss as an excuse for losing the match in Australia.

Australian pitches don't really deteriorate nor is there too much assistance for the fast bowlers at the start. In general, the pitches remain flat throughout the course of a test.
 
Last two years? I think this is his best knock. Period. Against this attack, under unreal pressure, right after the 36 a/o....

It would end up as one of the best knocks ever by an Indian if we end up winning this test.

If he scores a 150 then yes it would be his best knock of his career!
 
Got any data to prove the significance of the toss affecting results in Australia?

Over the last 23 tests in Australia (2016-17 to date), 12 times the team that has won the toss has not gone on to win the match. Suggests to me that only imbeciles harp on about the toss as an excuse for losing the match in Australia.

Australian pitches don't really deteriorate nor is there too much assistance for the fast bowlers at the start. In general, the pitches remain flat throughout the course of a test.

This series has not been easy for batters. No 300 score by any team so far!
 
Big credit to India coming back with a strong performance after being in a big mess after last Test.

The Aussie bowlers threw a fair bit at them, no easy ride. Poor fielding may have been the difference. Last Test India fielded poorly & let Australia get away to a decent enough total to get in a good position. This time it was Australia dropping the catches.

In general, the bowling has been of high quality from both teams. Runs are hard earned. Looking more & more like the team that supports there bowlers better in the field will win the game. Everyone will talk about batting but Paine was dropped multiple times in his key innings last Test & Rahane dropped twice here. It's a bowlers tour & anyone who makes runs will deserve praise but...

Catches are going to decide this series. Simply not the kind of road anyone will produce a chanceless gem on.
 
This series has not been easy for batters. No 300 score by any team so far!

I agree. Any games you see multiple guys from both teams getting out regularly in 30s-50s even after they are set tells you the pitches are grassy enough that the ball is always in the game. A quality in spinner in each team means there is a threat all innings too.
 
Got any data to prove the significance of the toss affecting results in Australia?

Over the last 23 tests in Australia (2016-17 to date), 12 times the team that has won the toss has not gone on to win the match. Suggests to me that only imbeciles harp on about the toss as an excuse for losing the match in Australia.

Australian pitches don't really deteriorate nor is there too much assistance for the fast bowlers at the start. In general, the pitches remain flat throughout the course of a test.

Well there are caveats. There are imbeciles like Williamson who choose to bowl first despite winning the toss and then get flattened by the Aussies. There are imbecilic teams like England, PAK, SL etc. who seem to lose regardless of the outcome of the toss. So yeah you're probably right.
 
Steve Smith says HI :smith

What are your predictions regarding Smith batting in 2nd innings?

I am assuming you are expecting him to play a special innings and win it for Australia?

Right now I think India is in very strong position to win this match like 80- India and 20-Australia , What about you?
 
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Well there are caveats. There are imbeciles like Williamson who choose to bowl first despite winning the toss and then get flattened by the Aussies. There are imbecilic teams like England, PAK, SL etc. who seem to lose regardless of the outcome of the toss. So yeah you're probably right.

It's the same in India, no? The Indian team would invariably win at home regardless of the toss. Australia is just so strong at home that it renders any advantage of winning the toss meaningless.
 
This series has not been easy for batters. No 300 score by any team so far!

This pitch at the MCG isn't that bad though, in fact, I believe it's the best MCG pitch in a decade or so. You have to give credit to the Indian bowlers for dismissing Australia cheaply.
 
It's the same in India, no? The Indian team would invariably win at home regardless of the toss. Australia is just so strong at home that it renders any advantage of winning the toss meaningless.

No its not. India have not lost at home regardless of the toss since 2013. Both Saffers and India's wins on their tours were when they won tosses .
 
No its not. India have not lost at home regardless of the toss since 2013. Both Saffers and India's wins on their tours were when they won tosses .

Eh? I think you are being churlish. Australia don't win at home because of the toss, the fact that India is more dominant at home than Australia is beyond debate.

The series that South Africa and India have won in Australia can simply be attributed to those two sides being stronger than Australia. The toss by itself doesn't dictate anything.
 
Got any data to prove the significance of the toss affecting results in Australia?

Over the last 23 tests in Australia (2016-17 to date), 12 times the team that has won the toss has not gone on to win the match. Suggests to me that only imbeciles harp on about the toss as an excuse for losing the match in Australia.

Australian pitches don't really deteriorate nor is there too much assistance for the fast bowlers at the start. In general, the pitches remain flat throughout the course of a test.

You are the only imbecile here then. Toss matters. Every test Virat won away from home was when he won the toss.

He has 23 tests when he won the toss out of 24. That's pretty darn impressive. The only loss being a pink ball tests.

Only in pink ball toss makes no difference. Besides in pink ball, you can wipe out a team in a session due to playing under lights.
 
This pitch at the MCG isn't that bad though, in fact, I believe it's the best MCG pitch in a decade or so. You have to give credit to the Indian bowlers for dismissing Australia cheaply.

Again. This couldnt be further from the truth. Australia produced some really flat batting tracks in the 2011 -2016 period and the MCG wicket was great for batting. Ever since the wickets have been changing . Even our lost tour here and now , conditions are changing ever so slightly with some session having uneven bounce and seam movement , swing yesterday etc. Only the SCG has remained a true batting surface.
 
Eh? I think you are being churlish. Australia don't win at home because of the toss, the fact that India is more dominant at home than Australia is beyond debate.

The series that South Africa and India have won in Australia can simply be attributed to those two sides being stronger than Australia. The toss by itself doesn't dictate anything.

What South Africa without an devillliers, Amla were stronger than Aussies in 2016 when they last won in Australia? Lmao yea right.

Rabada wrecked them. Aussies lost because saffers won the toss twice in that series. 2-1.

Red ball is way way different to pink ball.

For crap teams toss doesn't matter. For elite teams, toss makes a huge difference as they have the skill to make Aussies pay in their own backyard.
 
Again. This couldnt be further from the truth. Australia produced some really flat batting tracks in the 2011 -2016 period and the MCG wicket was great for batting. Ever since the wickets have been changing . Even our lost tour here and now , conditions are changing ever so slightly with some session having uneven bounce and seam movement , swing yesterday etc. Only the SCG has remained a true batting surface.

Australia had overcast Condtions today. Wish India had the same.
 
Again. This couldnt be further from the truth. Australia produced some really flat batting tracks in the 2011 -2016 period and the MCG wicket was great for batting. Ever since the wickets have been changing . Even our lost tour here and now , conditions are changing ever so slightly with some session having uneven bounce and seam movement , swing yesterday etc. Only the SCG has remained a true batting surface.

I didn't clarify, my mistake. I didn't assert that this is the best MCG pitch for batting. Recent pitches at the MCG have been dead, slow turners with low bounce.

This pitch is conducive for competitive test cricket, and is the best that the curator has produced as it has something in it for everyone.
 
I didn't clarify, my mistake. I didn't assert that this is the best MCG pitch for batting. Recent pitches at the MCG have been dead, slow turners with low bounce.

This pitch is conducive for competitive test cricket, and is the best that the curator has produced as it has something in it for everyone.

Not too dissimilar to the MCG pitch we got last time. Carrying through well with the new ball but drops off later. I think the outfield has been faster than last time though. Not sure if there was much difference.
 
Key in Australia always is to play 30 overs and negate the new ball. Play carefully and punish poor balls.

Then smash after 30 overs. The old kookabarra ball is easy to bash around when it becomes soft. You need patience and resilience.

Also mcg pitch is the same as 2018. Just a tad more bounce. Mcg always has bouncy wickets.

Scg has flat wickets.

Gabba is bouncy but I am not sure anymore.
 
A wicketkeepr averaging 38 in tests is brilliant and you know it. You keep pretending you like testts but obviously know nothing about it

And also the lie about hyping him to.the moon when evryoje just said he deserves place in XI over likes of Saha

Aww how cute and innocent. From he is the next big thing, best since Gilchrist, better than Dhoni to just 'he deserves a place in the XI' lol. Looks like reality have finally hit some of you and that is why all this down to earth comments by some fans here. :inti
 
Till now the Australian batting has been under pressure partly due to good bowling and partly due to not taking risks and initiative. Now the match situation will force them to take initiative. It is a long shot but someone can get settled and pull off a big one. India haven’t yet bowled 80 plus overs yet. It is likely Indian bowlers also mess up if Aus bat long.
 
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Dhoni doesn't have a SINGLE 100 in Aus, England, west indies, South Africa, sri lanka and New Zealand. Never saw you going after him. No stats or mental gymnastics there. But targeting a 23 year old who scored 100 and 150 in hs first tours of England and austrlia and claiming to be a test cricket fan

Sorry Mr Barbie, I am not a Dhoni fan either. You can actually find so many threads here why I criticised Dhoni and only supported him when he also deserved to play in ODI XI over Pant just like you claim to doing today. Pant's stupid batting in LOI's was one of the reason.

I didn't even bring Dhoni's name into any thread ever since he retired but you insecure trolls keep bringing his name as if I am his die hard fan lol. Hypocrites like you who doesn't even get into arguments with fans who were bashing 21 year old Shaw after just 1 test in Aus should be the last one giving lectures about someone else criticising a player who has been dropped for poor performances in LOI's and was replaced by an average player like Saha. :inti
 
Aww how cute and innocent. From he is the next big thing, best since Gilchrist, better than Dhoni to just 'he deserves a place in the XI' lol. Looks like reality have finally hit some of you and that is why all this down to earth comments by some fans here. :inti

Pant is not that great yet. He is talented but still has a long way to go. But he is way way way better than Dhoni will ever be in tests. Dhoni the test player is a fraud.

Gilchrist is far away from any keeper so can't compare.
 
Pant is not that great yet. He is talented but still has a long way to go. But he is way way way better than Dhoni will ever be in tests. Dhoni the test player is a fraud.

Gilchrist is far away from any keeper so can't compare.

Why do people bring Dhoni into discussion whenever there is a discussion going on about Pant? Are they insecure? You can compare their stats once Pant retires.

But still if you want to compare then keep in mind the bowling attacks Dhoni faced, the kind of fitness he had and the belly Pant is carrying these days he will be lucky to play 90 tests, 300 ODIs and 100 T20s as a wicketkeeper batsman. Just because your overhyped boy is getting rightly criticised you don't have to bring retired legend Dhoni. :inti
 
Not too dissimilar to the MCG pitch we got last time. Carrying through well with the new ball but drops off later. I think the outfield has been faster than last time though. Not sure if there was much difference.

That pitch got criticized heavily by the Australian public because the bounce was too inconsistent and there was no pace in the wicket, effectively neutralizing the Australian attack. By Day 2, the ball was carrying through at knee height to the keeper. It was rated average by the ICC match referee.

The current pitch should hopefully retain its pace over the next couple of days. In any case, I don't think its under any danger of being criticized by the ICC.
 
Why do people bring Dhoni into discussion whenever there is a discussion going on about Pant? Are they insecure? You can compare their stats once Pant retires.

But still if you want to compare then keep in mind the bowling attacks Dhoni faced, the kind of fitness he had and the belly Pant is carrying these days he will be lucky to play 90 tests, 300 ODIs and 100 T20s as a wicketkeeper batsman. Just because your overhyped boy is getting rightly criticised you don't have to bring retired legend Dhoni. :inti

Current attacks are way better than anything Dhoni has faced.
Best bowling attack is in post 2010 era.

I don't even like pant. I was happy to see him dropped in odi. In tests he still has. Along way to go. But Dhoni sucks in Australia and South Africa where there is true bounce.
 
Why do people bring Dhoni into discussion whenever there is a discussion going on about Pant? Are they insecure? You can compare their stats once Pant retires.

But still if you want to compare then keep in mind the bowling attacks Dhoni faced, the kind of fitness he had and the belly Pant is carrying these days he will be lucky to play 90 tests, 300 ODIs and 100 T20s as a wicketkeeper batsman. Just because your overhyped boy is getting rightly criticised you don't have to bring retired legend Dhoni. :inti

Dhoni a legend? Haha ? Ok. No worries. Odi legend yea. Test legend. Hell no.
 
Current attacks are way better than anything Dhoni has faced.
Best bowling attack is in post 2010 era.

I don't even like pant. I was happy to see him dropped in odi. In tests he still has. Along way to go. But Dhoni sucks in Australia and South Africa where there is true bounce.

Yeah South Africa and Australia of today are much stronger than South Africa and Australia of pre 2014. :inti
 
Dhoni a legend? Haha ? Ok. No worries. Odi legend yea. Test legend. Hell no.
See how you fans have problem with me calling Dhoni a legend (obviously he is in ODI's) but I can't have any problem with you guys hyping an average(currently) player like Pant. He is way above criticism lol. Not sure why you are arguing when you yourself have no problem with Pant sitting outside of LOI teams? Are you confused? :inti
 
Is Mayank Agarwal playing his last test match? I would like to give him more tests.
 
Yeah South Africa and Australia of today are much stronger than South Africa and Australia of pre 2014. :inti

Uhmm yes? No doubt they are. Dhoni will be a walking duck vs current attack of Australia, England now that they have Archer, duck vs rabada too.

Rabada nortje ngidi in South African conditions against a total dud fodder like Dhoni lmaoin bouncy Condtions. Imagine that.

Australia current attack is their best ever.
 
See how you fans have problem with me calling Dhoni a legend (obviously he is in ODI's) but I can't have any problem with you guys hyping an average(currently) player like Pant. He is way above criticism lol. Not sure why you are arguing when you yourself have no problem with Pant sitting outside of LOI teams? Are you confused? :inti

Pant is better than Dhoni in tests. Dhoni is better inn short formats.
 
After what happened in the first test, I am so traumatised that have no expectations or hope for this test. I will take one ball at a time. I still think Aussies are the favourites in this match. Rahane and Jadeja played well today but tomorrow is a new day; the momentum is broken and they have to start all over again.
 
Sorry Mr Barbie, I am not a Dhoni fan either. You can actually find so many threads here why I criticised Dhoni and only supported him when he also deserved to play in ODI XI over Pant just like you claim to doing today. Pant's stupid batting in LOI's was one of the reason.

I didn't even bring Dhoni's name into any thread ever since he retired but you insecure trolls keep bringing his name as if I am his die hard fan lol. Hypocrites like you who doesn't even get into arguments with fans who were bashing 21 year old Shaw after just 1 test in Aus should be the last one giving lectures about someone else criticising a player who has been dropped for poor performances in LOI's and was replaced by an average player like Saha. :inti

Kitna pakaate ho yaar, can’t even enjoy one day of good play?
 
Dude india aren't full strength. What they have done so far is impressive. Let's see if they can do the same in second innings.
This and the fact that we are missing key players like kohli,shami,ishant(latter would have been so useful) on this pitch goes to show the resilience of this team.It would be nice to win the match...
 
Kitna pakaate ho yaar, can’t even enjoy one day of good play?

Here comes Rohan with his useless one liners. When was the last time you actually posted anything substanial rather than quoting me to take cheap shots? How about for a start you prove me wrong? Or you wanna run away again? :inti
 
That pitch got criticized heavily by the Australian public because the bounce was too inconsistent and there was no pace in the wicket, effectively neutralizing the Australian attack. By Day 2, the ball was carrying through at knee height to the keeper. It was rated average by the ICC match referee.

The current pitch should hopefully retain its pace over the next couple of days. In any case, I don't think its under any danger of being criticized by the ICC.

Yes but the pitch had been rated poor the year earlier. It was slow initially but in India's 2innings it had quickened up significantly and Cummins was getting a lot of pace and carry. It wasnt slow throughout. Australia could not adjust and attack the stumps more as they should have done on that pitch and kept banging it in te 1st innings
 
Here comes Rohan with his useless one liners. When was the last time you actually posted anything substanial rather than quoting me to take cheap shots? How about for a start you prove me wrong? Or you wanna run away again? :inti

First you need to post something substantial and useful, try to be open for others’ opinions, try not to thump your useless opinions on others, don’t try to act like “I’m the only one who knows all”, try not to label others. Start somewhere for a change.
 
First you need to post something substantial and useful, try to be open for others’ opinions, try not to thump your useless opinions on others, don’t try to act like “I’m the only one who knows all”, try not to label others. Start somewhere for a change.

I don't see anything substantial in

Kitna pakaate ho yaar, can’t even enjoy one day of good play?

You could have posted your opinion about the post you quoted but no as always you want to take a cheap shot and run away with your tail between your legs. I was the one who was sharing my opinion where as you came only to post your useless one liners. You are the one who should be open to other's opinions and shouldn't get hurt this easily. Here is a pro tip : don't quote me if you don't have anything useful to contribute to threads. Now jog away. :inti
 
I don't see anything substantial in

Kitna pakaate ho yaar, can’t even enjoy one day of good play?

You could have posted your opinion about the post you quoted but no as always you want to take a cheap shot and run away with your tail between your legs. I was the one who was sharing my opinion where as you came only to post your useless one liners. You are the one who should be open to other's opinions and shouldn't get hurt this easily. Here is a pro tip : don't quote me if you don't have anything useful to contribute to threads. Now jog away. :inti

Please carry on.
 
After what happened in the first test, I am so traumatised that have no expectations or hope for this test. I will take one ball at a time. I still think Aussies are the favourites in this match. Rahane and Jadeja played well today but tomorrow is a new day; the momentum is broken and they have to start all over again.

Same. I notice many are going overboard here, we've thrown better positions away than this. So let's wait and watch what happens.

Smith is due a score.
 
Same. I notice many are going overboard here, we've thrown better positions away than this. So let's wait and watch what happens.

Smith is due a score.

Agreed. Plus people keep forgetting that India has to bat in 4th innings, on a pitch which will be turning squares.
 
Why guy so much hate pant.at this point India have only two wk ( for test) who can compete each other .but previous record suggest that pant is miles better than Saha .if anyone want how, than I can explain to them . period
 
India need a minimum of 150 run lead to have any chance of winning this test .I don't think we can chase more than 120 in last innings
 
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