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Why would the best club football manager in current era be scare or rattled by a manager whose a proven bottle job in Arteta.
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Why would the best club football manager in current era be scare or rattled by a manager whose a proven bottle job in Arteta.
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Oh wait it's not on the "BBC" so it's speculation. Stop trolling and go back under your bridge you
Where did I do that genius??Only clueless person is here, but let's see what copy paste rubbish you produce next. You harped on like a
Your football knowledge could be written on back of a postage stamp you numpty.
He’s best used somewhere between a traditional number 9 or number 10 is what I said. I also said his signing will aid Arteta in further evolving gameplay & it expands options available to Arteta.
However it appears to have gone over your comprehension as you just repeating what I said in a different way.
Oh wait it's not on the "BBC" so it's speculation. Stop trolling and go back under your bridge you
It’s not anywhere, as far as I am aware, apart from your fertile imagination.
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As per latest reports, Rice has made it clear to West Ham that his preference is to join Arsenal in spite of City’s rising interest.
You won’t expect anything less from a man of pure class and integrity. Rice is an absolute model professional. His representatives held positive talks with Arsenal and he is honoring his commitment.
It all depends on Arsenal now. They need to match City’s bid and getting this done.
Signing a player, especially an English player who gave City and Pep the finger and choose Arsenal would be a huge psychological blow and would bruise a lot of egos.
The English press will throw a huge tantrum. Their obvious anti-Arsenal agenda and City bootlicking would not be able to digest the fact that Rice rejected “bottlers” Arsenal for “treble winners” City.
You won’t expect anything less from a man of pure class and integrity. Rice is an absolute model professional. His representatives held positive talks with Arsenal and he is honoring his commitment.
It all depends on Arsenal now. They need to match City’s bid and getting this done.
Signing a player, especially an English player who gave City and Pep the finger and choose Arsenal would be a huge psychological blow and would bruise a lot of egos.
The English press will throw a huge tantrum. Their obvious anti-Arsenal agenda and City bootlicking would not be able to digest the fact that Rice rejected “bottlers” Arsenal for “treble winners” City.
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This is from a Sky Sport reporter from Italy with almost 2m followers.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="it" dir="ltr">Si avvicina l'arrivo di <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rice?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rice</a> per il <a href="https://twitter.com/ManCity?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ManCity</a
fiducia per l'accordo definitivo con il <a href="https://twitter.com/WestHam?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WestHam</a> <a href="https://t.co/qSOCuKGQBb">https://t.co/qSOCuKGQBb</a></p>— Gianluca Di Marzio (@DiMarzio) <a href="https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/1671981504384081943?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 22, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Translation:
The arrival of #Rice is approaching for @ManCity : confidence for the definitive agreement with @WestHam
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This is from a Sky Sport reporter from Italy with almost 2m followers.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="it" dir="ltr">Si avvicina l'arrivo di <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rice?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rice</a> per il <a href="https://twitter.com/ManCity?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ManCity</a
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The arrival of #Rice is approaching for @ManCity : confidence for the definitive agreement with @WestHam
I respect him, at least more than Fabrizio, but he is often completely wrong. I still remember his Aubameyang to City story in 2016.
Besides, this is no news. Everyone knows, and expects, City to meet West Ham’s demands. Agreeing a fee with West Ham is not an issue.
Ultimately, Rice will decide where he wants to go and as per reports, his preference remains Arsenal.
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I certainly hope he prefers to stay in London. That will rule out the 2 x Manchester clubs, speaking of which, Man U have just made a bid of £40m + Maguire + Elanga
)I thought Arsenal's bids were insulting but this is what you call taking the absolute p1ss
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https://youtube.com/shorts/2U_LcuYMRL0?feature=share
Anyone who knows football can tell that is not the touch and the finish of an ordinary player.
Please don’t tell me he got lucky or even a mediocre player can take a touch like this.
If a player is capable of such touches and he is still “mediocre”, then it simply means that he was terribly unlucky to fall in the wrong hands and never found a mentor.
It is very obvious that Havertz is a player of exceptional ability, touch, technique and elegance.
This is something that we would see very frequently at Arsenal because this Arsenal team and Arteta is the ideal platform and the support system to unlock his immense potential.
Anyone who knows football can tell that is not the touch and the finish of an ordinary player.
Please don’t tell me he got lucky or even a mediocre player can take a touch like this.
If a player is capable of such touches and he is still “mediocre”, then it simply means that he was terribly unlucky to fall in the wrong hands and never found a mentor.
It is very obvious that Havertz is a player of exceptional ability, touch, technique and elegance.
This is something that we would see very frequently at Arsenal because this Arsenal team and Arteta is the ideal platform and the support system to unlock his immense potential.
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I certainly hope he prefers to stay in London. That will rule out the 2 x Manchester clubs, speaking of which, Man U have just made a bid of £40m + Maguire + Elanga
I thought Arsenal's bids were insulting but this is what you call taking the absolute p1ss
United is as much part of the equation as they were part of the Premier League title race. There are a non-entity in this saga.
Rice rejecting City for Arsenal will cause some serious heartburn for a lot folks. A lot of narratives and perceptions will be destroyed and frankly, ignoring my obvious bias as an Arsenal fan, it will be great for the English game.
Nonetheless, the first thing I would do when Rice rejects City is to tune in to talkSPORT and listen to Simon Jordan and Jim White crying, following by Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher squealing.
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I certainly hope he prefers to stay in London. That will rule out the 2 x Manchester clubs, speaking of which, Man U have just made a bid of £40m + Maguire + Elanga
I thought Arsenal's bids were insulting but this is what you call taking the absolute p1ss
United value Maguire at £40m and Elanga at £20m, so it adds up to £100m.
On a serious note, there is a good reason why cash + player swap deals rarely work. Firstly, most players refuse to be used as a collateral for a transfer and secondly, it is very disrespectful to offer your trash to another club especially when they have not shown any interested in those players.
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Anti-Arsenal propoganda machine is what I call it. Can't stand the show nor can I stand these fraudsters. The only positive you get out of there is Laura Woods especially when she owns Spurs/Chelsea supporters who call in.
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Indeed, it certainly is disrespectful to offer your unwanted goods in return for a discount. Speaking of which, should Arsenal have considered giving up ESR (possibly with a buy back clause) to help the acquisition of Rice?
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They invite Martin Keown but won’t let him talk. Laura Woods is amazing. Too bad she left.
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I expected ESR to leave the club this summer. His natural ability cannot be denied, but there are massive question marks over his fitness issues and more importantly, his work ethic.
He comes across as lazy and someone who doesn’t have that burning desire. He doesn’t have that fire in his belly. Ability wise, he is not far behind Saka and Martinelli but attitude wise, he is poles apart.
Nonetheless, it seems like Arteta has big plans for him this season. If he is fit, he will get plenty of games on the left flank and also in midfield.
Havertz, ESR, Trossard, Nelson and Vieira is a bit of an overkill though. There is a good chance Vieira is loaned out or sold with a buy back clause.
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Arsenal boss Mikel Arteta believes England midfielder Declan Rice, 24, is the club's future captain and the Gunners are preparing a third offer closer to West Ham's demands. (Mail)
Rice remains keen to join Arsenal despite Manchester City planning to enter the race and the Treble winners also being able to meet the £100m asking price. (Guardian)
Rice remains keen to join Arsenal despite Manchester City planning to enter the race and the Treble winners also being able to meet the £100m asking price. (Guardian)
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Arsenal transfers: Kai Havertz to have medical this weekend ahead of move from Chelsea as Declan Rice talks continue with West Ham
Chelsea forward Kai Havertz will have a medical this weekend ahead of completing his move to Arsenal, while talks continue over Declan Rice.
Havertz's medical is likely to take place overseas due to the player's schedule and, all being well, a formal announcement of his £65m move could come next week.
Chelsea are understood to be satisfied with the deal as Havertz has made it clear he wants to leave Stamford Bridge.
It spells the end of a three-year stint at Chelsea for Havertz, who secured his place in the club's history by scoring the goal that won them a second Champions League crown in 2021.
Chelsea signed Havertz from Bayer Leverkusen in 2020 for £75m but were looking to recoup a substantial portion of what they paid after an indifferent campaign.
The proposed transfer to Arsenal generates much-needed funds for the Blues while strengthening and adding versatility to Mikel Arteta's attacking options as the Gunners attempt to build on last season's second-place finish in the Premier League.
Arsenal also remain in talks with West Ham over the signing of Rice. There is an expectation they will make a third offer after having a club-record bid worth £90m rejected.
However, Sky in Italy reported on Thursday Manchester City are closing on a deal for the West Ham captain. They are prepared to pay £75m + £15m in bonuses payable across two years for Rice.
Thomas Partey could also be on the move, with Juventus interested, although there has been no formal bid yet.
Arsenal want a degree of certainty about arrivals before sanctioning any departures.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...a-as-declan-rice-talks-continue-with-west-ham
Chelsea forward Kai Havertz will have a medical this weekend ahead of completing his move to Arsenal, while talks continue over Declan Rice.
Havertz's medical is likely to take place overseas due to the player's schedule and, all being well, a formal announcement of his £65m move could come next week.
Chelsea are understood to be satisfied with the deal as Havertz has made it clear he wants to leave Stamford Bridge.
It spells the end of a three-year stint at Chelsea for Havertz, who secured his place in the club's history by scoring the goal that won them a second Champions League crown in 2021.
Chelsea signed Havertz from Bayer Leverkusen in 2020 for £75m but were looking to recoup a substantial portion of what they paid after an indifferent campaign.
The proposed transfer to Arsenal generates much-needed funds for the Blues while strengthening and adding versatility to Mikel Arteta's attacking options as the Gunners attempt to build on last season's second-place finish in the Premier League.
Arsenal also remain in talks with West Ham over the signing of Rice. There is an expectation they will make a third offer after having a club-record bid worth £90m rejected.
However, Sky in Italy reported on Thursday Manchester City are closing on a deal for the West Ham captain. They are prepared to pay £75m + £15m in bonuses payable across two years for Rice.
Thomas Partey could also be on the move, with Juventus interested, although there has been no formal bid yet.
Arsenal want a degree of certainty about arrivals before sanctioning any departures.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...a-as-declan-rice-talks-continue-with-west-ham
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Juventus are interested in Arsenal midfielder Thomas Partey.
There has been no formal bid yet.
As we've been reporting, it's thought Arsenal want a degree of certainty about arrivals before sanctioning any departures.
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There has been no formal bid yet.
As we've been reporting, it's thought Arsenal want a degree of certainty about arrivals before sanctioning any departures.
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Some of this Arsenal fan base is hilarious, the loser mentality one of reasons why it now acts like a small club
"Rice only wants to join Arsenal"
"Rice wants to join because of Arteta"
"Rice will take club to next level"
To
"We cant compete with Man city"
"Rice is overrated"
"Rice will sit on bench at city"
Then we have
"Havertz is atrocious at chelsea"
"No Chelsea players would get in out 11"
To
"Havertz was misued at chelsea"
"Arteta will make havertz into bergkamp"
"If Arteta wants him I want him,"
Absolutely moronic flip flop mindset, people need to grow a pair of balls, always an excuse or a so called "positive" spin put on things
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"Rice only wants to join Arsenal"
"Rice wants to join because of Arteta"
"Rice will take club to next level"
To
"We cant compete with Man city"
"Rice is overrated"
"Rice will sit on bench at city"
Then we have
"Havertz is atrocious at chelsea"
"No Chelsea players would get in out 11"
To
"Havertz was misued at chelsea"
"Arteta will make havertz into bergkamp"
"If Arteta wants him I want him,"
Absolutely moronic flip flop mindset, people need to grow a pair of balls, always an excuse or a so called "positive" spin put on things
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Daily mail reporting juve want Partey for 17M, A player with 2 years left on his contract 
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Only Arsenal give their best players away for peanuts
*. Only Arsenal give their best players away for peanuts
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Daily mail reporting juve want Partey for 17M, A player with 2 years left on his contract ����*
Only Arsenal give their best players away for peanuts
I guess this is what happens when you've got an ex-player with no commercial mindset as your sporting director.
I wouldn't be surprised if Edu accepts such a low bid because he has the mentality of a Sporting Director of a side who's just got relegated from the PL.
I feel he's also behind the curve when it comes to grasping what players are worth in the current market.
Seems like he's got no clue what his own players are worth so what hope do you have when it comes to signing players. Explains his low offers.
Arsenal need to get rid of him.
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The kronkes indicated already that they want to go back to the self sustaining model.
Only reason they put money in their pockets for once was due to no CL money, Arteta taking Arsenal out of Europe for a season and covid.
Self sustaining model doesn't work when your cancelling players contracts and giving players away practically for free. Arsenal's biggest ever sales to this day are overmars and oxlaide chamberlain.
Edu keeps fumbling sales and buys and what do kronkes do, give him a new contract
The whole project youth "version 3" is just the club's way of lowering expectations but then if it fails younger players will in theory be able to be flogged to balance the books.
Wenger was able to balance books and keep Arsenal in top 4.
Edu is just costing the kronkes more and more money.
The kronkes should be smart enough to realize you have to invest and take a risk to be successful, but they ain't prepared to do that.
Arsenal earned 150M for finishing 2nd in PL, club increased season tickets by 4%, they increased shirt prices by £10.
The below is roughly what you can get from CL so its not exactly like club hadn't got money to spend. But we've sold zero players, even when we do we won't get much. The club off the field is run very poorly to say the least.
Qualification for group stage: £13.8m
Group stage wins: £2.1m
Group stage draws: £820k
Round of 16 – £8.5m
Quarter-finalist: £9.4m
Semi-finalist: £11m
Runner-up: £13.7m
Winner: £17.7m
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Sounds like nketitah and Vieira aren't happy with incoming havertz signing which is pretty funny.
Arteta end of season before last said that he felt bad that he didn't give Eddie much game time, then he offers him a new big contract. Last season after January Eddie was just put on the sidelines by Arteta and won't be shocked now if he's sold.
He should never have been given contract in 1st place. But guess he has sell on value now.
Vieira, well Arteta personally pushed for this guy to be signed and what a flop, got to point where Arteta didn't trust him, won't be shocked of he's binned off as well.
The so called Arteta "talents ID"- let's see how long till havertz becomes another unwanted toy after 6 months for Arteta.
Arteta end of season before last said that he felt bad that he didn't give Eddie much game time, then he offers him a new big contract. Last season after January Eddie was just put on the sidelines by Arteta and won't be shocked now if he's sold.
He should never have been given contract in 1st place. But guess he has sell on value now.
Vieira, well Arteta personally pushed for this guy to be signed and what a flop, got to point where Arteta didn't trust him, won't be shocked of he's binned off as well.
The so called Arteta "talents ID"- let's see how long till havertz becomes another unwanted toy after 6 months for Arteta.
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Arsenal are not better than LFC. AT our weakest, you beat us at home with soft pen and were very fortunate to walk away with a point at Anfield. But lets leave this for another thread.
You were very confident of winning the league which turned out to be wishful thinking.
Your dont want to predict Arsenal winning and I think this is a smart move.
Your prediction.
1. City
2. Arsenal
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I dont think you'll get anywhere near the title next season and this will be Arteta's last season in London, he'll end up in an average team in Spain after.
Lets see.
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Arsenal instead of Declan Rice have bought Kai Havertz. )
I cant see Arsenal buying Rice now at over £100 when they've spent big bucks on Kai.
It seems the Arsenal sporting directors are fooling their fans and seem to be doing what the owners want.
)I cant see Arsenal buying Rice now at over £100 when they've spent big bucks on Kai.
It seems the Arsenal sporting directors are fooling their fans and seem to be doing what the owners want.
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After finishing 2nd Arsenal need players to go to next level, signing havertz, Timber aren't going to take team to next level. Yes Timber is good, but not elite.
Liverpool were at a similar stage years ago and go fabhino, van dykk, Allison to go to next level.
2 seasons ago Liverpool miss out on a quadrouple and then failed to strengthen and fell away.
These are prime examples of what happens at a cross-roads of a club
No Rice, no caciedo and Arsenal will go backwards
Liverpool were at a similar stage years ago and go fabhino, van dykk, Allison to go to next level.
2 seasons ago Liverpool miss out on a quadrouple and then failed to strengthen and fell away.
These are prime examples of what happens at a cross-roads of a club
No Rice, no caciedo and Arsenal will go backwards
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Arteta has spent so much cash but the overall squad still looks flimsy.
You need more centre backs. You need more midfielders. You defo need one or two real strikers. The keeper and wingers are the only spots where Arsenal are strong. It has to be an anomaly Arsenal doing so well last season until April.
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Arsenal is comfortably better than Liverpool right now, the PL table does not lie. 17 point gap between the two sides tells a story.
Liverpool have been far better than Arsenal over the last few years but it is Arsenal’s time now.
Yeah sure, Arteta will be sacked in December and end up coaching in Spanish second division. You have been talking about Arteta getting the sack since 2020 but here we are in 2023, Arteta is still the Arsenal manager and he finished 17 points above Klopp.
I didn’t say City would win the league. I said I expect Arsenal and of course City to finish in the top 2. It is too early to who will win the league because a lot can change based on the transfer window and also how the teams perform as the season starts.
Sometimes, how things look on paper isn’t always how they end up performing on the pitch. The English press has been licking City’s boots since they did the treble and expect them to be untouchable next season, but it is quite normal for treble-winning teams to underperform or not live up to the standards next season.
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Arsenal instead of Declan Rice have bought Kai Havertz.
I cant see Arsenal buying Rice now at over £100 when they've spent big bucks on Kai.
It seems the Arsenal sporting directors are fooling their fans and seem to be doing what the owners want.
It isn’t a case of Havertz over Rice. Arsenal have the money for both and they will make a third and final bid for Rice to seal the transfer.
The Havertz transfer happened earlier than Rice because West Ham have been waiting for City or someone else to bid for Rice so that they can have a bidding war.
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500M + spent on 20+ players and what is the end result? A very good starting 11 + Trossard and zero other like for like rotation options
Is p*ss poor squad building. Good squads have in key areas like for like replacements so you cab rotate keep players fresh etc..
If you look consistent through Arsenal's 3.5 years with Arteta the team consistently goes through patches where they lose consecutive games and go 3 games without a win regularly.
The standards in the PL in top 4 races and title races is such that you can't afford to drop points in 2 games in a row let alone 3.
Look at every Liverpool vs City title race, Goe many times did either side ever drop points 2 games in a row back end of a season.
Drop points come because manager is tactically inept to change things up, or he simple doesn't make the one or two changes required to stop a slump from starting. It's clear Arteta doesn't trust his bench players, well guess what these bench players are either Arteta signings or ones he's given contract extensions to.
Most managers have to work with what they are given, Arteta has a habit of shooting himself in foot by foolish discarding playesz hes got because of stubbornness and stupidity. Everything has to be technically perfect and choreographed for him.
That won't change next season. These 3 game ruts will still keep happening due to poor in game and squad management
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Klopp joined Liverpool in 2015. In 8 years, he has delivered only 2 major trophies in spite of having players like Salah, Mane, Van Dijk, Alisson, Trent etc. at his disposal.
He has bottled two title races to City and almost missed out on the UCL twice (saved by a fluke Alisson header in 2021) after huge amounts of money on world class players in 2018.
By the time Arteta is in his 8th year as Arsenal manager (2027) I fully expect him to have a Premier League title by then and/or a UCL. Both would be brilliant, but either one of the two major trophies would be amazing.
In fact, personally, I would actually be disappointing if between now and 2027, Arsenal only win the league once. Ideally, they should be aiming to win two league titles in the next 4-5 seasons.
He has bottled two title races to City and almost missed out on the UCL twice (saved by a fluke Alisson header in 2021) after huge amounts of money on world class players in 2018.
By the time Arteta is in his 8th year as Arsenal manager (2027) I fully expect him to have a Premier League title by then and/or a UCL. Both would be brilliant, but either one of the two major trophies would be amazing.
In fact, personally, I would actually be disappointing if between now and 2027, Arsenal only win the league once. Ideally, they should be aiming to win two league titles in the next 4-5 seasons.
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Stop being a coward again. Any predictions will be made before season starts.
Not your usual changing prediction every month, you want to beat your chest all time, but have no balls to make a prediction and stick by it.
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One season doesnt make a team superior. Both LFC and Arsenal won NOTHING. If we played your best out of 5 on a neutral venue, we'd win 3 or 4 but lets see what the season brings when we play each other.
I can understand your reluctance to predict Arsenal winning after bottling it being on top for more than 90% of the season.
City improve year on year, I wouldnt go with some historical records.
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From the outside it seems Arteta and Edu have no clear plan or make up of the team. They check the market and go for players who may not be suitable for his style of playing. Whatever that is.
I have no idea who Kai Havertz will fit into this system and style. He is not a midfielder and is not a striker, he is more of a link up player to a striker. Surely the first priority would have been a striker? Jesus is very good but can be injury prone. You can expect Saka(who is no Salah) or others to do the bulk of scoring and expect to win the league.
What is Aretas style of play? Any ideas?
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You really have little clue of football.
Klopp promised the league within 4 years delivered, the way little Arteta is going it could be 10 years before Arsenal win it.
LFC took City to the last game more than once, this isnt bottling it. Being on top for 90+% and losing it before the final game is bottling it.
Two league titles in the next 4 season, this is the most ridicoulous and delusional stuff Ive ever read.
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One season doesnt make a team superior. Both LFC and Arsenal won NOTHING. If we played your best out of 5 on a neutral venue, we'd win 3 or 4 but lets see what the season brings when we play each other.
I can understand your reluctance to predict Arsenal winning after bottling it being on top for more than 90% of the season.
City improve year on year, I wouldnt go with some historical records.
H2H doesn’t mean anything, sometimes, certain teams perform better against certain opposition because of their playing styles.
City almost always loses away at Spurs, it doesn’t make them comparable.
What matter is the league table and you can’t argue that a team that finished with 17 points more isn’t stronger. That is extremely funny.
Yeah Arsenal and Liverpool were both trophyless, but it is better to challenge for the title and finish second than to finish 17 points behind the team that finished second.
City’s dominance is not a foregone conclusion. Things change quickly in football. No one would have thought Liverpool will become a mediocre team so quickly after almost winning the league in 2021-22.
Gundogan is gone, Bernardo is close to leaving, De Bruyne and Walker are getting old etc. a lot can change at City in the coming years.
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The 1st priority is midfield, if that's neglected or not improved to a high standard rest of team doesn't function.
You as a Liverpool fan will understand that your midfield was neglected and thus the drop off in standards.
Next for Arsenal would be strengthening at CB and another Full back. Then either a wide right forward or a striker.
Yeah havertz makes no sense, pretty much ESR won't be getting much game time, so Arteta keeping him will make no sense. I can see Eddie n Vieira not playing at all.
So end results ESR will regress more.
Why give Eddie new contract and probably will be binned off.
Arteta personally wanted Vieira and wasted 30M now wasting 65M on an upgrading a small **** for a medium size ****.
This is why Arsensl have zero squad quality.
I don't rate Eddie or Vieira so I'm not defending this flops.
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You really have little clue of football.
Klopp promised the league within 4 years delivered, the way little Arteta is going it could be 10 years before Arsenal win it.
LFC took City to the last game more than once, this isnt bottling it. Being on top for 90+% and losing it before the final game is bottling it.
Two league titles in the next 4 season, this is the most ridicoulous and delusional stuff Ive ever read.
City and Liverpool had two title run-ins. Liverpool couldn’t cope with the pressure and lost the title on both counts.
The only title Liverpool won was when City couldn’t sort themselves out all season. Pretty sure Klopp would have choked that one as well if City would have stepped up.
Liverpool have bottled two title races to City and Madrid owns Liverpool. These are two uncomfortable facts that will not change no matter how many excuses and justifications you come up with.
Yes I don’t have a clue about football but a person who claimed that the team that finished 17 points above is not better. Funniest thing I have heard in a long time.
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City and Liverpool had two title run-ins. Liverpool couldn’t cope with the pressure and lost the title on both counts.
The only title Liverpool won was when City couldn’t sort themselves out all season. Pretty sure Klopp would have choked that one as well if City would have stepped up.
Liverpool have bottled two title races to City and Madrid owns Liverpool. These are two uncomfortable facts that will not change no matter how many excuses and justifications you come up with.
Yes I don’t have a clue about football but a person who claimed that the team that finished 17 points above is not better. Funniest thing I have heard in a long time.
What were the points difference between LFC and City in the two close run ins? What were LFCs final 10 results?
Now check Arenals, only one team bottled it and you couldnt see it but everyone who lives in the UK and actually attends the matches knew what was coming..apart from the silly AFTV crybabies.
LFC have battered you black and blue for years and check the points of Klopp against Areta in previous seasons.
You are an armchair fan sat in Pakistan . Please learn the sport.
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This is guy thinks Arteta is a superiour manager than Klopp and everyone else
Unfortunately the Arsenal fan base is sadly full of supports like mamoon. AFTV and the football terrace on YouTube have similar fans. This is why clubs a mess because of fans with no standards or self respect.
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It doesn’t matter what the points difference was. It doesn’t matter what the last X results were. That is a cop out, or should I say Kop out.
The fact is that Liverpool couldn’t get over the line but City did. Twice. It is a pattern, and it shows that Liverpool couldn’t handle the pressure as well as City.
Liverpool have battered Arsenal over the last few years, but that is history now. Things have changed and last season’s table clearly shows that Arsenal are comfortably better than Liverpool right now and it is completely delusional to argue otherwise.
Again, the 17 points gap doesn’t lie.
You support Liverpool as a Brummie. That is embarrassing in its own right, and we all know you don’t know jack about football and your posts prove it.
I don’t know if Arsenal will win the league next season or not, but what I do know is that Arsenal will finish above Liverpool. Again.
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This is guy thinks Arteta is a superiour manager than Klopp and everyone else
Arteta needs to aim higher than Klopp. Klopp is not the gold standard.
8 years in Liverpool while having some of the greatest players in the world at his disposal, and all he has to show for are just 2 major titles.
Klopp isn’t even among the top 4 managers in PL history in terms of legacy. SAF, Pep, Arsene and Mourinho are all well ahead of him.
He is the best Liverpool manager in the PL era but that doesn’t mean anything when Liverpool have as many PL titles as Blackburn and Leicester.
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Facts.
His usual line of argument is "You've never played football before". As if playing in the Alum Rock Taxi Cab League makes you more worthy of having a view on football
eTH in second season. If he wants a player I will trust him.
I think Mount is quality in terms of the combined tactical discipline, pressing and technical ability
Progress? The guy finished 8th so dragged Arsenal into positions through hadn't been in since the early mid 90s, so obviously after dragging a team that low finishing higher to some dim wits it would be so called Progress
For sale of argument let's agree he dragged them down to where they had never been before, can we also agree that last season he took arsenal higher than where they were when he came, and also to a point they have not been in about 15 years!
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Mount is a very good player, he will flourish in the right setup. He would have been a quality signing for Arsenal too.
It is incredibly foolish to make sweeping statements about Chelsea players based on they have fared over the last 12-18 months. The club has been a total mess.
Someone like Odegaard who has been sensational at Arsenal under Arteta would also be struggling at Chelsea under Potter/Lampard.
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He won’t because he wanted Arteta sacked 12 months back and claimed Arsenal will never be title challengers under him. Now that he has been egged in the face, he doesn’t have the nerve to accept that he was wrong.
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Some disgraceful posts on this thread.
Progress of any team can be judged on stats but a true barometer of progress can be judged by the naked eye.
FACT:Some of the football played last season was eye catching. The style of play and the coaching was lauded by pretty much every single pundit/ex player.
I'm glad my views are more aligned to theirs than some of pundits we have here on PP.
Regrettably tgis jayche my last post on the Arsenal thread.
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Progress of any team can be judged on stats but a true barometer of progress can be judged by the naked eye.
FACT:Some of the football played last season was eye catching. The style of play and the coaching was lauded by pretty much every single pundit/ex player.
I'm glad my views are more aligned to theirs than some of pundits we have here on PP.
Regrettably tgis jayche my last post on the Arsenal thread.
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Hey KKWC anyone who has watched Arsenal or understands football knows what the style of play is and how it has developed under Arteta.
Your points make no sense other then you have not watched a lot is Arsenal under Arteta.
Havertz not only fits perfectly with this style of play but he also exhibits attributes that will allow Arteta to further evolve that style.
Btw, should you not be more worried about the lack of consistency shown by Liverpool last season? Klopp had no idea how to get the best out of his team, constantly changing styles/ tactics.
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A don't get this new sudden trend that fans now start supporting the manager rather then the club. All managers even fergie, mourihno, pep, wenger made good and bad signings.
But the new trend is "oh well if the manager wants him I want him"
Fans are allowed to have an opinion and call things out, doesn't make you any less of a fan.
Instead fans just being toxic positive sheep.
Honest question, at moment united transfer budget isn't great unless takeover happens. Are you happy if mount is you marquee signing for the summer?
Uve got Arteta fans boy like mamoon who seems to thing the club's called Arteta FC, when he leaves or sacked be interesting if Mamoon goes running off to support where Arteta goes to.
Fans support clubs not managers, managers come and go
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Egg of face?
Says the clown who made the following predictions
Man city will take 6 points of Arsenal
Arsenal will beat man city at Emirates
City win at Emirates was a fluke
Arsenal don't need to beat man city to win the league
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Then these others gems
Man city will win league
Man city won't catch Arsenal
Arsenal have won it, its in the bag
I will bump all these posts.
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What happened after Emirates game you dissapeared for 2 weeks like a coward and made excuses you were busy
Then after eithad defeat you hid off this forum again for to weeks and stayed on the cricket forum
You absolutely gutless cowards. You got humiliate and had a whole chicken farms worth of eggs smashed all over your face
That's why now your new prediction is Arsenal will finish top 2, because you can't handle fact you might go AWOL again like the coward that you are.
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Three Premier League clubs are monitoring Arsenal's English striker Eddie Nketiah, 24, amid the Gunners' imminent signing of Chelsea's 24-year-old Germany forward Kai Havertz. (Mirror)
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Arsenal's transfer business just screams insider trading a la Chelsea and the Saudis
I gave my opinion on Mount also in my message you quoted.
I will NOT be happy if he is the marquee signing as everybody knows we need a striker, GK, and 2 midfielders ( who are better than Mcfred to move to the next level. Mount is just 25% of this, so no the striker needs to be the marquee signing.
When you say I'm supporting the manager, it's not over the club, but just over the ownership who are ruining any chance we have to develop on the momentum we had last season
Daily mail reporting juve want Partey for 17M, A player with 2 years left on his contract ����*
Only Arsenal give their best players away for peanuts
If that happens that is criminal
City and Liverpool had two title run-ins. Liverpool couldn’t cope with the pressure and lost the title on both counts.
The only title Liverpool won was when City couldn’t sort themselves out all season. Pretty sure Klopp would have choked that one as well if City would have stepped up.
Liverpool have bottled two title races to City and Madrid owns Liverpool. These are two uncomfortable facts that will not change no matter how many excuses and justifications you come up with.
Yes I don’t have a clue about football but a person who claimed that the team that finished 17 points above is not better. Funniest thing I have heard in a long time.
This is very wrong. Liverpool finished on 94 and 97 points and didn't win the league.
That is just nuts and definitely not bottling
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Liverpool had a 10 point lead over City in 2018-19. It doesn’t matter how many points they ended up with. The fact is that they surrendered a 10 point lead.
It was a classic bottlejob.
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Rice rejects City.
The English press cannot come to terms with the fact that there are English players out there who are not licking City’s backside and don’t want to walk on coal to play for Pep.
Arsenal fans like [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] were also waiving the white flag because “City have entered the chat” and there is no reason why Rice will pick Arsenal over City.
They will pretend to be happy when Rice officially signs but deep down they will be crying because it is all about agendas.
They will still not give Edu any credit and will claim that he got lucky because Rice gave City the finger. Just like they don’t give him credit for Odegaard. It is all about agendas.
The English press cannot come to terms with the fact that there are English players out there who are not licking City’s backside and don’t want to walk on coal to play for Pep.
Arsenal fans like [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] were also waiving the white flag because “City have entered the chat” and there is no reason why Rice will pick Arsenal over City.
They will pretend to be happy when Rice officially signs but deep down they will be crying because it is all about agendas.
They will still not give Edu any credit and will claim that he got lucky because Rice gave City the finger. Just like they don’t give him credit for Odegaard. It is all about agendas.
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Rice rejects City.
The English press cannot come to terms with the fact that there are English players out there who are not licking City’s backside and don’t want to walk on coal to play for Pep.
Arsenal fans like [MENTION=16]Amjid Javed[/MENTION] were also waiving the white flag because “City have entered the chat” and there is no reason why Rice will pick Arsenal over City.
They will pretend to be happy when Rice officially signs but deep down they will be crying because it is all about agendas.
They will still not give Edu any credit and will claim that he got lucky because Rice gave City the finger. Just like they don’t give him credit for Odegaard. It is all about agendas.
Source?
Won’t happen.
If he leaves then Arsenal will want at least market value as he has contract until 2025.
They are in the driving seat on this one.
Certain individuals will post with a pre-planned narrative. Picking & choosing stories / sources to further this.
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Rice will be a proper Arsenal legend and win several trophies at the club. There is no doubt that he will also captain at some point, but he doesn’t need the armband to be a leader.
Arsenal have lacked a proper English talisman since Adams. When United, Chelsea and Liverpool had Neville, Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard, Gerrard etc., Arsenal had no counterparts.
Arsenal fans are going to love him to pieces. They will never forget that he rejected Man City. Unlike other English players like Grealish, Sterling, Walker, Stones, Phillips etc. who took the easy route to success by joining the richest club in the country.
What is the challenge in joining the treble-winning side that could multiple trophies again next season?
No one will look at Rice and view him as the difference maker; he will just be another disposable player for City.
He goes to Arsenal now and helps the team win the league, he will be remembered as the point of difference. He will be seen as the one who turned things around for Arsenal.
Rice was destined to be an Arsenal legend. The fact that he slipped through Chelsea’s fingers and snubbed City only makes it sweeter.
In my opinion, this is the most important signing of the Emirates era. The best English midfielder entering the peak years of his career with exceptional leadership qualities.
Ozil was a massive signing in 2013 and was playing at an elite level for the biggest club in the world. Signing a player of his stature was unthinkable at the time, but he didn’t have the mental profile to spur Arsenal to greater heights.
The rival fans are crying now, but Arsenal beating City to his signature is great news for English football. It shows that not every English player will take the easy route and bend over backwards to the richest club in the country.
Arsenal have lacked a proper English talisman since Adams. When United, Chelsea and Liverpool had Neville, Ferdinand, Terry, Lampard, Gerrard etc., Arsenal had no counterparts.
Arsenal fans are going to love him to pieces. They will never forget that he rejected Man City. Unlike other English players like Grealish, Sterling, Walker, Stones, Phillips etc. who took the easy route to success by joining the richest club in the country.
What is the challenge in joining the treble-winning side that could multiple trophies again next season?
No one will look at Rice and view him as the difference maker; he will just be another disposable player for City.
He goes to Arsenal now and helps the team win the league, he will be remembered as the point of difference. He will be seen as the one who turned things around for Arsenal.
Rice was destined to be an Arsenal legend. The fact that he slipped through Chelsea’s fingers and snubbed City only makes it sweeter.
In my opinion, this is the most important signing of the Emirates era. The best English midfielder entering the peak years of his career with exceptional leadership qualities.
Ozil was a massive signing in 2013 and was playing at an elite level for the biggest club in the world. Signing a player of his stature was unthinkable at the time, but he didn’t have the mental profile to spur Arsenal to greater heights.
The rival fans are crying now, but Arsenal beating City to his signature is great news for English football. It shows that not every English player will take the easy route and bend over backwards to the richest club in the country.
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You're making it sound as if you're signing Maradonna
)Rice is a great talent but largely unproven yet. He has the potential but isnt some sort of once in a generation midfielder like Gerrard or Lamps. Its possible but I doubt it.
Arsenal have has signature now? Nothing confirmed?
I don't remember it like that at all. I remember Liverpool and city won 10 of the last 11 games each.
Maybe city had games in hand but I think you are just wrong.
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Yeah after 20 games (29th December) liverpool were 10 points clear of City, Liverpool ended up drawing to many of the big away games that season which meant City reigned them in.
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Please refresh your memory. Google is your friend.
Liverpool were 10 points clear of City after match week 20. City were third at the time.
If you blow up a 10 point lead with 18 games to go, it is a bottlejob. There is no argument.
It doesn’t matter if Liverpool won all their last 10 games. The fact is that they had a 10 point lead over City with 18 games to go and they messed it up.
A classic bottlejob.
In fact, let me save some time.
https://talksport.com/football/505423/premier-league-title-race-liverpool-manchester-city/amp/
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Good to see ESR fully fit again and doing well for England U21, hopefully he can stay fit next season as he's a miles better player then shitz havertz and Vieira.
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Saka (21)
Martinelli (22)
Saliba (22)
Smith Rowe (22)
Timber (22)***
Nelson (23)
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Rice (24)***
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(Copied from Twitter)
Not a single key player is 30+. Arteta is cooking something extraordinary. The next few years are going to be brilliant.
Arteta will one day have a statue outside the Emirates right next to Arsene. He is rebuilding a club that, in his words, had lost its soul.
All credit goes to the club for selecting him in 2019 over a big name, established manager who would have built nothing for the future and for renewing his contract at the time when the club’s form had hit rock-bottom and the impatient fans wanted his head on a stick.
The 2023-2030 will be reminiscent of 1997-2005 era where Arsenal won three league titles. It is a wonderful time to be an Arsenal fans because the dark days are over.
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Not a single key player is 30+. Arteta is cooking something extraordinary. The next few years are going to be brilliant.
Arteta will one day have a statue outside the Emirates right next to Arsene. He is rebuilding a club that, in his words, had lost its soul.
All credit goes to the club for selecting him in 2019 over a big name, established manager who would have built nothing for the future and for renewing his contract at the time when the club’s form had hit rock-bottom and the impatient fans wanted his head on a stick.
The 2023-2030 will be reminiscent of 1997-2005 era where Arsenal won three league titles. It is a wonderful time to be an Arsenal fans because the dark days are over.
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Quoting for prosperity.
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Another comedy gem book marked, can't wait for the next disappearing act from mamoon when he gets humiliated again.
Maybe a statue of mamoon should be put outside the Emirates so rotten tomatoes can be thrown at it
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Arsenal line up Declan Rice transfer alternative after West Ham reject three bids
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Arsenal line up Declan Rice transfer alternative after West Ham reject three bids
Arsenal's move for Declan Rice is stalling, with West Ham having rejected three bids from the Gunners for their captain and boss Mikel Arteta is preparing to move on from the midfielder
Arsenal are lining up Youssouf Fofana as an alternative to Declan Rice after West Ham rejected three bids for the England international.
Rice is the Gunners' top target for the summer transfer window after captaining the Hammers to winning the Europa Conference League. But West Ham are demanding a fee in the region of £100million, with Arsenal struggling to negotiate them down from that valuation.
So far they have been unsuccessful and now appear to be exploring alternative options to the 24-year-old. One of them is Fofana, who has impressed for Monaco and was included in France's World Cup squad last winter.
The French international will be allowed to leave the Stade Louis II this summer, should a 'reasonable offer' be submitted. Arsenal and Newcastle have both now registered an interest in Fofana.
But with Monaco holding the option of extending his contract by a further year, the Ligue 1 side are in no hurry to sell. No concrete bid has yet been submitted for Fofana, who is also receiving interest from Inter Milan and Roma.
Fofana made 47 appearances in all competitions in the season just gone, starting all but three games in Ligue 1 as they finished sixth, missing out on European qualification. In the aftermath of that disappointment, the Frenchman has admitted he is looking to leave.
“Monaco is a great club in France and Europe. A lot of big clubs come here to find players and we are all aware of this. If it is the right opportunity or moment [to leave], I can’t say," he said earlier this month.
"I don’t know but we are doing things the right way here at the moment. I have already played with top players but if one day I can play with more big names then it will be a pleasure and mean I have performed well.”
Gunners boss Mikel Arteta has declined to discuss his side's summer transfer business. But the Spaniard has urged club bosses to invest this summer as they look to challenge for the Premier League title.
"I can’t talk about players who are not at the club. I prefer not to say anything. We have already regenerated the squad, with a very young average that will generate performance and value," he told Marca.
"We have owners who are aligned with us: to build a winning team that can be sustained over time, without too much investment. But the demands are increasing and we have to go to the market to find what we don’t have to keep improving."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-declan-rice-youssouf-fofana-30324309
Arsenal's move for Declan Rice is stalling, with West Ham having rejected three bids from the Gunners for their captain and boss Mikel Arteta is preparing to move on from the midfielder
Arsenal are lining up Youssouf Fofana as an alternative to Declan Rice after West Ham rejected three bids for the England international.
Rice is the Gunners' top target for the summer transfer window after captaining the Hammers to winning the Europa Conference League. But West Ham are demanding a fee in the region of £100million, with Arsenal struggling to negotiate them down from that valuation.
So far they have been unsuccessful and now appear to be exploring alternative options to the 24-year-old. One of them is Fofana, who has impressed for Monaco and was included in France's World Cup squad last winter.
The French international will be allowed to leave the Stade Louis II this summer, should a 'reasonable offer' be submitted. Arsenal and Newcastle have both now registered an interest in Fofana.
But with Monaco holding the option of extending his contract by a further year, the Ligue 1 side are in no hurry to sell. No concrete bid has yet been submitted for Fofana, who is also receiving interest from Inter Milan and Roma.
Fofana made 47 appearances in all competitions in the season just gone, starting all but three games in Ligue 1 as they finished sixth, missing out on European qualification. In the aftermath of that disappointment, the Frenchman has admitted he is looking to leave.
“Monaco is a great club in France and Europe. A lot of big clubs come here to find players and we are all aware of this. If it is the right opportunity or moment [to leave], I can’t say," he said earlier this month.
"I don’t know but we are doing things the right way here at the moment. I have already played with top players but if one day I can play with more big names then it will be a pleasure and mean I have performed well.”
Gunners boss Mikel Arteta has declined to discuss his side's summer transfer business. But the Spaniard has urged club bosses to invest this summer as they look to challenge for the Premier League title.
"I can’t talk about players who are not at the club. I prefer not to say anything. We have already regenerated the squad, with a very young average that will generate performance and value," he told Marca.
"We have owners who are aligned with us: to build a winning team that can be sustained over time, without too much investment. But the demands are increasing and we have to go to the market to find what we don’t have to keep improving."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-declan-rice-youssouf-fofana-30324309
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Looks like another spectacular disasterclass from Edu.
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If Kiwior is one of our "key players", then God help us.
As for the rest of the post, time will tell. Even if he does reach those heights, there's no guarantee he'll still be with us until late 20s or at the very end of this decade.
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Fake news. Jacob Leeks has no idea what he is talking about. He is the only journalist in the world who is reported that Arsenal have had three bid rejects which is simply not true.
Arsenal have not submitted a third bid. Man City are yet to submit a bid in the first place.
It has all gone quiet over the past 5 days because Arsenal and West Ham are negotiating behind closed doors.
West Ham is working with Arsenal on the terms of the third offer which will be accepted because West Ham is working with Arsenal on the deal.
City have taken a step back because Rice has clearly told West Ham his preference is to join Arsenal.
This deal should be completed within two weeks if not less. West Ham cannot drag this forever because they also have deals in place that depends on Rice’s departure.
Rice will be an Arsenal player. It is 100% decided but only the final details remain. People are unnecessary critical of Edu - these transfers are very complicated. Rice is a high profile player and West Ham is not an easy club to negotiate with.
West Ham and their fans clearly don’t want to their favorite son to another London club but they cannot force to sell Rice to a club that he doesn’t want to join.
This is a big transfer and big transfers tend to take time. Remember, United took two summer windows to sign Sancho even though BVB is a relatively easy club to negotiate with and United didn’t face any competition from other clubs.
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Kiwior is more than good enough to be a backup. He has very good raw ingredients and he will develop well under Arteta.
A player like him could easily end up at BVB and become one of the most sought after young players in Europe.
He was excellent against Germany few days back. He is very highly rated in Poland and is very similar to BVB’s Schlotterbeck who is considered to be one of the most promising young defenders in Germany.
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It is very clear what is going on and what happened over the last couple of weeks.
Arsenal put a price on Rice which was below what West Ham is asking for. Arsenal did not panic because they knew the hold the cards in this transfer since Rice has already agreed personal terms and wants to join Arsenal.
West Ham, hoping to raise the price, twerked to City to start a bidding war.
City doesn’t need Rice. They have never looked at his as their primary target this summer. However, when a player of his quality is offered to you and you have the financial resources, you will obviously be interested in exploring the possibility of signing him.
City held talks with West Ham and Rice’s representatives. This is when the news broke out in the media that City will make a bid for him and Arsenal are also preparing a third bid.
Arsenal did not panic and rush with the third bid because they are aware that Rice’s preferences remains Arsenal in spite of talks with City.
Can Man City offer exactly what West Ham is asking for and offer Rice twice the wages Arsenal have, and influence his decision? Sure they can, but will they? No, and this is what fans fail to understand.
Every club puts a price on a player. There is a maximum limit to which they will go. It is already decided before they make a bid. If the other club is not willing to do business within that amount, they will simply walk away.
People harp about the Mudryk transfer and Arsenal not paying Shakhtar what they were asking for need to understand that for Arsenal, Mudryk was not the worth the money Shakhtar was demanding.
On the contrary, Chelsea valued him at that price and Arsenal walked away.
This is exactly what happened with the Cucurella transfer. Man City were not willing to pay the £60m that Brighton were demanding and they walked away from the deal and Chelsea signed him.
Man City did not walk away because they couldn’t afford to pay the amount or they couldn’t get into a bidding war with Chelsea. They walked away because they didn’t value the player at that price.
Fans don’t understand this. They don’t realize that it’s not just the selling club that puts a price on the player; it is also the buying club, and they would not go beyond their valuation of the player regardless of how badly they want him.
Arsenal put a price on Rice which was below what West Ham is asking for. Arsenal did not panic because they knew the hold the cards in this transfer since Rice has already agreed personal terms and wants to join Arsenal.
West Ham, hoping to raise the price, twerked to City to start a bidding war.
City doesn’t need Rice. They have never looked at his as their primary target this summer. However, when a player of his quality is offered to you and you have the financial resources, you will obviously be interested in exploring the possibility of signing him.
City held talks with West Ham and Rice’s representatives. This is when the news broke out in the media that City will make a bid for him and Arsenal are also preparing a third bid.
Arsenal did not panic and rush with the third bid because they are aware that Rice’s preferences remains Arsenal in spite of talks with City.
Can Man City offer exactly what West Ham is asking for and offer Rice twice the wages Arsenal have, and influence his decision? Sure they can, but will they? No, and this is what fans fail to understand.
Every club puts a price on a player. There is a maximum limit to which they will go. It is already decided before they make a bid. If the other club is not willing to do business within that amount, they will simply walk away.
People harp about the Mudryk transfer and Arsenal not paying Shakhtar what they were asking for need to understand that for Arsenal, Mudryk was not the worth the money Shakhtar was demanding.
On the contrary, Chelsea valued him at that price and Arsenal walked away.
This is exactly what happened with the Cucurella transfer. Man City were not willing to pay the £60m that Brighton were demanding and they walked away from the deal and Chelsea signed him.
Man City did not walk away because they couldn’t afford to pay the amount or they couldn’t get into a bidding war with Chelsea. They walked away because they didn’t value the player at that price.
Fans don’t understand this. They don’t realize that it’s not just the selling club that puts a price on the player; it is also the buying club, and they would not go beyond their valuation of the player regardless of how badly they want him.
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All the Arteta fans boys including head cheer leader Mamoon will be saying that they have been following Youssouf Fofana career since he was born and that Arteta will turn him into prime kante / Patrick Vieira hybrid.
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Nothing new here. He will just get a payrise from kronkes.
The guys main job is to get transfers done during the TW and instead he decides to go on holiday
