Arsenal FC | 2023/24 Season

[Amjid Javed]

Seems like it's in this thread based on that performance your team put in at the Etihad

We defended brilliantly.

We created the better chances in game, more shots on Target.

Let me know what City did to try and win the game? To force a win?

Where was City's pressing and high line to try and win ball like the Liverpool, Chelsea, spurs games?

City were fearful of being countered but no mention of City bring Conservative today.

 

[Pakpak]

I have never seen so many plastic fans at a big club than City. You can tell deep down they all know their entire 'history' and that they're all frauds.

Great point, could have won maybe but I'll take it.

 

[Amjid Javed]

People don't like being called out on their hypocrisy

I was actually waiting for Arsenal to put in a performance like this because it embarrasses those that like to dish it out but are unable to take it when the same criticism is levelled at their team

If Arsenal play like that again for rest of season fair enough. Fact it was a one off and anomaly. Compared to WWE you follow.

You need to learn the difference. We all know when Newcastle play another top side this season it will be NFL football

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

We defended brilliantly.

We created the better chances in game, more shots on Target.

Let me know what City did to try and win the game? To force a win?

Where was City's pressing and high line to try and win ball like the Liverpool, Chelsea, spurs games?

City were fearful of being countered but no mention of City bring Conservative today.

You failed to create a single big chance, they created two

They had 72% possession to your 28

You committed 20 fouls, double what they did

And then you add in all the timewasting

Again, just to reiterate Arsenal had a game plan and executed it well, they deserved the point. I don't criticise Arsenal for the way they approached the game, doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I just find the inconsistencies laughable, Arteta and a lot of Arsenal fans get upset when other teams employ a similar approach against them but are oblivious when they do it. Whether they do it only once is irrelevant, either you dislike physicality and time wasting all the time or you never dislike it. Otherwise it's absolute hypocrisy.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

If Arsenal play like that again for rest of season fair enough. Fact it was a one off and anomaly. Compared to WWE you follow.

You need to learn the difference. We all know when Newcastle play another top side this season it will be NFL football

As mentioned how often it's done is irrelevant

It's like criticising someone for being a serial thief but then stealing something and justifying it as it only being done once

Theft is theft and hypocrisy is hypocrisy

 

[Amjid Javed]

You failed to create a single big chance, they created two

They had 72% possession to your 28

You committed 20 fouls, double what they did

And then you add in all the timewasting

Again, just to reiterate Arsenal had a game plan and executed it well, they deserved the point. I don't criticise Arsenal for the way they approached the game, doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I just find the inconsistencies laughable, Arteta and a lot of Arsenal fans get upset when other teams employ a similar approach against them but are oblivious when they do it. Whether they do it only once is irrelevant, either you dislike physicality and time wasting all the time or you never dislike it. Otherwise it's absolute hypocrisy.

So what if Man city had 72% of the ball, what did they do with it?

Last seasons game at Emirates Arsenal had 64% and City 36% (lowest for any Pep team), yet City won the game. So your possession comment means nothing.

All City did was pass the ball side to side.

How Many shots on target did City have? 1

So for all City's possession they had 1 shot on goal

What did City do to force the game? Nothing.

Yeah Arsenal commited more fouls. Did any Arsenal players smash a player in face off the ball? Did Any Arsenal player push a player in back on a cross?

There is a difference between been physical and WWE fouls Newcastle par take in

 

[Amjid Javed]

As mentioned how often it's done is irrelevant

It's like criticising someone for being a serial thief but then stealing something and justifying it as it only being done once

Theft is theft and hypocrisy is hypocrisy

what a hilarious example

How many Newcastle players are fighting at wrestlemania next week?

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Gundogan and Mahrez were ballers for city, specially in big games.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

what a hilarious example

How many Newcastle players are fighting at wrestlemania next week?

Deep down you know your inconsistencies have shown you up

And I love to see it

Nothing worse than hypocritical football fans

 

[Amjid Javed]

Deep down you know your inconsistencies have shown you up

And I love to see it

Nothing worse than hypocritical football fans

No inconsistency at all, I know Arsenal did this as a one off.

If this was being done every game I'd be concerned.

We have played city twice this season and for all their possession in both games they have created next to nothing.

Like I said whereas your team in every single big game plays same way.

 

[Mamoon]

Hes sat on fence all season, saying Arsenal would finish top two but didn't commit to saying Arsenal would win title.

He's still scarred from last years humiliation.

Also if Arsenal end season trophyless he said he would write a written apology, which everyone knows is a lie

Only people who need to apologize are ignoramuses like you & @KingKhanWC who thought Arteta was out of his depth and should have been sacked in 2020 because Arsenal was never supposed to become title contenders on his watch.

Zero ball knowledge.

 

[Mamoon]

Gundogan and Mahrez were ballers for city, specially in big games.

Gundogan was a huge loss. Kovacic is a fine player but nowhere near Gundogan. City will need to do a bit of rebuilding in the summer.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@topspin @KingKhanWC @Kroll

the supposed Apology if Arsenal end season trophyless isn't happening. A certain Arteta fan will be exposed for lying again.

 

[Amjid Javed]

What did everyone think of Saka's non performance again in a man city game?

 

[Mamoon]

@topspin @KingKhanWC @Kroll

the supposed Apology if Arsenal end season trophyless isn't happening. A certain Arteta fan will be exposed for lying again.

I know you have me on ignore list because you are scared of debating me but what would choose?

1. Second place finish in the league + UCL semifinals

2. Limping to fourth in the league + UCL R16 elimination but an FA Cup or League Cup win

Unless you are high or drunk, you would choose the first option. Arsenal were trophy less last season and they be trophy less this season too, but these two seasons have been far better any of the four FA Cup winning seasons that Arsenal have had between 2014 and 2020.

Fighting for the title is more significant than winning a domestic cup and not fighting for the title.

Not a single United fan is deluded enough to argue that United had a better season than Arsenal last year just because they won a domestic cup.

It is obvious as anything that Arsenal will eventually win the league with Arteta. It is a question of when not if.

If Arteta could get Arsenal to this position from where they were in 2019, he will also take Arsenal from this position to eventual PL champions.

The only people who need to apologize are deluded and ignorant fans like yourself who were adamant that Arsenal would never fight for the title under Arteta, 4th place was his ceiling and that he should have been sacked in 2020.

It was obvious to anyone who knew anything about football that Arteta was going to be a brilliant manager and the signs were they since day one for those who could see.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Oh dear, so someone said of Arsenal finished trophyless they would apologies. Now they are back tracking.

One thing I can't stand is two faced lying cowards.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Only people who need to apologize are ignoramuses like you & @KingKhanWC who thought Arteta was out of his depth and should have been sacked in 2020 because Arsenal was never supposed to become title contenders on his watch.

Zero ball knowledge.

Acc to the Opta prediction Arsenal are only 14% chance of winning it at this stage . Im sure it was higher last season at this point . Arteta has another season of huge opportunity to win the title against a weaker City team & a Liverpool team with half the team made up with new players . Arsenal should be over 70pts by now . Lost 4 matches , another one and the title challenge is most likely over .

If you win this year , I’ll hold my hands up & admit a mistake …If Arsenal come 3rd get Jose Mourinho in , he knows how to win.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I know you have me on ignore list because you are scared of debating me but what would choose?

1. Second place finish in the league + UCL semifinals

2. Limping to fourth in the league + UCL R16 elimination but an FA Cup or League Cup win

Unless you are high or drunk, you would choose the first option. Arsenal were trophy less last season and they be trophy less this season too, but these two seasons have been far better any of the four FA Cup winning seasons that Arsenal have had between 2014 and 2020.

Fighting for the title is more significant than winning a domestic cup and not fighting for the title.

Not a single United fan is deluded enough to argue that United had a better season than Arsenal last year just because they won a domestic cup.

It is obvious as anything that Arsenal will eventually win the league with Arteta. It is a question of when not if.

If Arteta could get Arsenal to this position from where they were in 2019, he will also take Arsenal from this position to eventual PL champions.

The only people who need to apologize are deluded and ignorant fans like yourself who were adamant that Arsenal would never fight for the title under Arteta, 4th place was his ceiling and that he should have been sacked in 2020.

It was obvious to anyone who knew anything about football that Arteta was going to be a brilliant manager and the signs were they since day one for those who could see.

Why choose losing out & winning nothing ?

2nd & semi is no better for than 4th & QF lol

 

[MK7Z]

Acc to the Opta prediction Arsenal are only 14% chance of winning it at this stage . Im sure it was higher last season at this point . Arteta has another season of huge opportunity to win the title against a weaker City team & a Liverpool team with half the team made up with new players . Arsenal should be over 70pts by now . Lost 4 matches , another one and the title challenge is most likely over .

If you win this year , I’ll hold my hands up & admit a mistake …If Arsenal come 3rd get Jose Mourinho in , he knows how to win.

With all due respect. Just the last sentence. Why don't you get Jose in... You are the ones that need a manager now your 1st choice doesn't want it.

Bit of a theme with Liverpool and getting their 1st choices...anyway in tribute to Jose who you mentioned.... If I speak I am in trouble.

Peace

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

No inconsistency at all, I know Arsenal did this as a one off.

If this was being done every game I'd be concerned.

We have played city twice this season and for all their possession in both games they have created next to nothing.

Like I said whereas your team in every single big game plays same way.

That's literally the definition of inconsistency, either it is acceptable or it isn't, you can't have it both ways.

That's just simply not true, you clearly don't watch us if you think that.

We played like that against you away from home, at home we more than matched you.
Away to Liverpool and City we couldn't even get close enough to the ball but at home we didn't time waste or be overly physical.

The reality is you and your manager were sore losers because we beat you at home and rather than accept it graciously you moaned about playing style and time wasting. Yet here is your team, doing the exact same thing.

HYPOCRISY.

 

[Mamoon]

Why choose losing out & winning nothing ?

2nd & semi is no better for than 4th & QF lol

I didn’t explain myself properly.

Not just finishing second but seriously challenging for the title.

Challenging for the title shows that the team is trending in the right direction. It shows that they have the right ingredients in place to win the league and need a few finishing touches.

When you limp to third or fourth without fighting for the title and are moons away from the champion and the title challengers, it shows that you have no direction and need an overhaul.

Take United’s example from last season - they won the league cup, but they were completely out of sorts and couldn’t fight for the title.

United fans were not happy and it was obvious that Ten Hag had to improve and rebuild the squad.

For a club like Arsenal, United, Liverpool, City, Chelsea etc., winning domestic cups mean nothing if you are not fighting for the title because you can win an FA Cup or a league cup when you are poor but you cannot fight for the title if you are poor.

Arsenal won 4 FA Cups in 6 years but they did nothing for the club and the club had no direction. Why? Simply because they were very poor in the league.

Arsenal fans wanted Wenger to leave the club even though Wenger was winning FA Cups left right and center simply because he was not challenging for the title.

This and the last season have been Arsenal’s best seasons since 2007-08 because it is the first time over a decade that Arsenal have mounted series title challenges.

Acc to the Opta prediction Arsenal are only 14% chance of winning it at this stage . Im sure it was higher last season at this point . Arteta has another season of huge opportunity to win the title against a weaker City team & a Liverpool team with half the team made up with new players . Arsenal should be over 70pts by now . Lost 4 matches , another one and the title challenge is most likely over .

If you win this year , I’ll hold my hands up & admit a mistake …If Arsenal come 3rd get Jose Mourinho in , he knows how to win.

I don’t care about nonsense like Opta. It is clear that Opta is run by statisticians and programmers who don’t know anything about football and don’t watch it either.

Arsenal are only two points behind Liverpool with the best GD in the league, most goals scored, least goals conceded.

Arsenal have taken 4 points of both Liverpool and City, so how come Arsenal only have a 14% chance. That is complete rubbish.

All three have fairly equal chance of winning at this point.

You should hold your hand up and admit your mistake already because Arteta has proved you wrong already. Go back to 2020-2021 and you never thought in a million years that Arsenal would be where they are today under Arteta.

You never thought Arteta was good enough to have Arsenal fight for the league and now that he has proved you wrong, you are changing the goalposts because you don’t want to admit that you were wrong.

As far as Mourinho is concerned, he has still got what it takes to win titles with mature squads. This is why I think he will be a great short-term fix for Liverpool now that Xabi Alonso has rejected Liverpool because he is waiting for a far bigger club like Madrid.

Liverpool’s core is at its peak and someone like Mourinho could be the ideal manager to come in and instill winning mentality in this team which Klopp couldn’t.

1 PL in 10 years with such a great team shows that Klopp lacked that winning mentality and ruthless mindset that Mourinho has demonstrated on numerous occasions in his career.

Also, don’t give me this excuse of Liverpool being made up of new players. Yes there are some new faces but most of the core of the squad has remained.

Salah, Trent, VVD, Alisson, Robertson are still at the club and they are part of the core that brought success to the club. Your excuse of Liverpool having a new team would be valid only when most of these guys leave.

 

[Mamoon]

I'm glad you see it. I don't know about you, but I think he's a little bit overrated.

Yes, Maddison is better than him just Masood is a great captain.

 

[Mamoon]

I agree and that's when the questions will be asked about the signing of Havertz for £65m.

Havertz has already owned you and others. He has been far better than you thought he would be and you guys wrote him off without giving him a chance.

Arteta has changed his career for the better. Even Germany is playing him as a striker now and he will be their starting striker at the Euros.

Havertz will be a key component for seasons to come and Arteta has shown that he is two steps ahead of his critics.

 

[topspin]

Yes, Maddison is better than him just Masood is a great captain.

So rattled that you have to bring up Masood.

I will happily fly out to Peshawar to attend a comedy show of yours, just let m e when your next show is.

Maddison has been the better player this season. First half of the season Odegaard was p1ss poor and Maddison was excellent.

Second half of the season so far, Maddison has been largely injured and Odegaard has been okay.

Overall, this season Maddison has been superior and the numbers back this up.

In the PL, Maddison has 11 G/A in 19 matches and Odegaard has 12 G/A in 26 matches. It's also pertinent to mention that the Spurs CAM is producing better numbers in a team that is significantly inferior to Arsenal.

So I rest my case.

If you want to get schooled again however, let's move on to the next topic.

@Rana I would be interested to get your view on this comparison as well.

 

[topspin]

Havertz has already owned you and others.

I think you meant to say Imad after he owned Babar, when he missed out on a PSL final.

As for Havertz, your appetite for mediocrity is showing again. First it was Nicolas Pepe then it was Zinchenko and now it's Havertz.

This is why other posters have you called you out for going downhill. Your contributions to PP are analogous to Wenger's washed up years at Arsenal.

 

[Mamoon]

So rattled that you have to bring up Masood.

I will happily fly out to Peshawar to attend a comedy show of yours, just let m e when your next show is.

Maddison has been the better player this season. First half of the season Odegaard was p1ss poor and Maddison was excellent.

Second half of the season so far, Maddison has been largely injured and Odegaard has been okay.

Overall, this season Maddison has been superior and the numbers back this up.

In the PL, Maddison has 11 G/A in 19 matches and Odegaard has 12 G/A in 26 matches. It's also pertinent to mention that the Spurs CAM is producing better numbers in a team that is significantly inferior to Arsenal.

So I rest my case.

If you want to get schooled again however, let's move on to the next topic.

@Rana I would be interested to get your view on this comparison as well.

Why ask your fellow deluded mate for help? What are you afraid of?

Odegaard is one of the best players in the world in his position. He is world class. Maddison is a good player but he is not in his league. Never was and never will be.

The fact that you are comparing their G/A shows your ignorance.

Odegaard has created more chances from open play in Europe top 5 leagues than any other player.

The difference is that at Arsenal right now, he doesn’t have the luxury of having a clinical finisher which means that most of his chances go to waste.

Jesus is the worst of the lot but none of Havertz, Martinelli, Saka, Trossard and Eddie can be categorized as clinical in front of goal.

They all score goals and they score a decent number of goals but they fluff a lot of chances too.

Maddison plays with Son who is a far better finisher than anyone at Arsenal right now.

If Son played for Arsenal, Odegaard would have had far more assists than he does now.

Odegaard is a special footballer. He is worth 100 million and if Arsenal weren’t a serious force right now, the European powerhouses would have been all over him.

City would have been tapping him up as a De Bruyne replacement and the likes of PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Juventus etc. would be in for him too.

Few years earlier, Arsenal would have had no chance of keeping an elite player like him at the club.

None of these clubs would ever look at Maddison. When he was busy getting relegated with Leicester last season, Spurs were the only side to show concrete interest in him.

Comparing Odegaard and Maddison is one of the most ridiculous hot takes I have ever come across. It is complete nonsense. They are not at the same level.

 

[Mamoon]

I think you meant to say Imad after he owned Babar, when he missed out on a PSL final.

As for Havertz, your appetite for mediocrity is showing again. First it was Nicolas Pepe then it was Zinchenko and now it's Havertz.

This is why other posters have you called you out for going downhill. Your contributions to PP are analogous to Wenger's washed up years at Arsenal.

I took you to school over Pepe and Zinchenko in the Arteta thread that you had to flee because you couldn’t debate with me. Please sit down.

 

[Rana]

So rattled that you have to bring up Masood.

I will happily fly out to Peshawar to attend a comedy show of yours, just let m e when your next show is.

Maddison has been the better player this season. First half of the season Odegaard was p1ss poor and Maddison was excellent.

Second half of the season so far, Maddison has been largely injured and Odegaard has been okay.

Overall, this season Maddison has been superior and the numbers back this up.

In the PL, Maddison has 11 G/A in 19 matches and Odegaard has 12 G/A in 26 matches. It's also pertinent to mention that the Spurs CAM is producing better numbers in a team that is significantly inferior to Arsenal.

So I rest my case.

If you want to get schooled again however, let's move on to the next topic.

@Rana I would be interested to get your view on this comparison as well.

Bro generally English players don’t amount to much greatness no matter how bright and talented they are at a younger age. Maddison is one of them. He had flare and was expressing himself well under a thriving Leicester city, but on a world stage a lot of these English players are just decent. They are hot commodity’s in the PL to some extent but they don’t amount to much. Only a rare few go on to play 10+ seasons at top level and make a mark like Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Ferdinand, Terry, Rooney, Sterling.

Compared to Odegaard, tbh Odegaard is supposed to be a different level to him. Just like Erickson and Wilshere were compared early on. Arsenal thought they got the better deal with Wilshere in comparison to Erikson at Tottenham. IMO, wilshere faded away just like those many talented English players that just didn’t have the longevity as these top European/South American prospects. Erikson eventually proved to be a better player with time.

Odegaard on the other hand came into Arsenal to play the kind of role Fabregas, Cazorla, Arteta (to some extent), Rosisky and namely a big player like Ozil played. You give young English players (who may not amount to much) a lot more leniency to grow, but the overseas signings have to hit the ground running. That’s the nature of the sport, very rarely do such overseas players at a young age get leniency (maybe if they are on loan).

Odegaard is supposed to be better, he is very effective against mid-table and lower table sides. My only issue with him is that if we are to win the premier league and InshaAllah champions league one day (hopefully soon), then the guys playing these key positions as guaranteed starters need to be on that level that we have seen guys like De Bruyne, David Silva etc. Even Bruno Fernandes, brilliant player but his team is quite useless.

 

[Theo_14]

I understand its Easter and Jesus may have some excuses for today, but his body language and general demeanour is such that you can't depend on him at pressure end of season

Compare his stats to Laccazete, one has to wonder why Jesus is treated so softly by the fan base. I don’t rate him at all man.

 

[shaz619]

Fair play to Arsenal, deep down a lot of us probably felt you would roll over like a pack of cards, I hope it happens against Villa

 

[topspin]

Why ask your fellow deluded mate for help? What are you afraid of?

Did I ask for help or did I ask for his opinion? If you scroll up, he commented on Odegaard, that's why I'm interested to know about what he thinks about Maddison.

Odegaard is one of the best players in the world in his position. He is world class. Maddison is a good player but he is not in his league. Never was and never will be.

The fact that you are comparing their G/As shows your ignorance.

Odegaard has created more chances from open play in Europe top 5 leagues than any other player.

Maddison would playing for a bigger club if he wasn't so injury prone. He's undoubtedly had a better season.

Odegaard does have a higher ceiling and as an Arsenal fan, I hope he reaches that level for the greater good of the team. However, up until now he's not at that level.

The difference is that at Arsenal right now, he doesn’t have the luxury of having a clinical finisher which means that most of his chances go to waste.

Jesus is the worst of the lot but none of Havertz, Martinelli, Saka, Trossard and Eddie can be categorized as clinical in front of goal.

They all score goals and they score a decent number of goals but they fluff a lot of chances too.

Maddison plays with Son who is a far better finisher than anyone at Arsenal right now.

If Son played for Arsenal, Odegaard would have had far more assists than he does now.

If you want to go down this road and make up excuses, can you explain why Maddison managed 19 G/A in 30 PL games for relegated Leicester and why Odegaard managed 22 G/A in 37 matches last season?

Odegaard is a special footballer. He is worth 100 million and if Arsenal weren’t a serious force right now, the European powerhouses would have been all over him.

City would have been tapping him up as a De Bruyne replacement and the likes of PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Juventus etc. would be in for him too.

Few years earlier, Arsenal would have had no chance of keeping an elite player like him at the club.

None of these clubs would ever look at Maddison. When he was busy getting relegated with Leicester last season, Spurs were the only side to show concrete interest in him.

Maddison would be playing for a bigger club if he wasn't so injury prone.

Comparing Odegaard and Maddison is one of the most ridiculous hot takes I have ever come across. It is complete nonsense. They are not at the same level.

Odegaard has been with Arsenal since the 20/21 season. Since then:

• Odegaard: 48 G/A in 113 matches in the PL
• Maddison: 63 G/A in 115 matches in the PL

Maddison has played over 80% of these matches for Leicester, so please don't make excuses here.

As you can see, I've just schooled you again.

 

[topspin]

I took you to school over Pepe and Zinchenko in the Arteta thread that you had to flee because you couldn’t debate with me. Please sit down.

You sound rattled. I understand because your zero ball knowledge got exposed. You promised us "Pepe is one of the hottest assets in Europe" but the truth is he was hot garbage who was only worth half of the fee that Arsenal signed him for.

Please don't pretend you schooled me on Zinchenko, all I have to do is pull up one post to expose your lies.

Please use your energy for promoting Babar, your zero ball knowledge isn't needed here.

 

[topspin]

Bro generally English players don’t amount to much greatness no matter how bright and talented they are at a younger age. Maddison is one of them. He had flare and was expressing himself well under a thriving Leicester city, but on a world stage a lot of these English players are just decent. They are hot commodity’s in the PL to some extent but they don’t amount to much. Only a rare few go on to play 10+ seasons at top level and make a mark like Gerrard, Lampard, Owen, Ferdinand, Terry, Rooney, Sterling.

Compared to Odegaard, tbh Odegaard is supposed to be a different level to him. Just like Erickson and Wilshere were compared early on. Arsenal thought they got the better deal with Wilshere in comparison to Erikson at Tottenham. IMO, wilshere faded away just like those many talented English players that just didn’t have the longevity as these top European/South American prospects. Erikson eventually proved to be a better player with time.

Odegaard on the other hand came into Arsenal to play the kind of role Fabregas, Cazorla, Arteta (to some extent), Rosisky and namely a big player like Ozil played. You give young English players (who may not amount to much) a lot more leniency to grow, but the overseas signings have to hit the ground running. That’s the nature of the sport, very rarely do such overseas players at a young age get leniency (maybe if they are on loan).

Odegaard is supposed to be better, he is very effective against mid-table and lower table sides. My only issue with him is that if we are to win the premier league and InshaAllah champions league one day (hopefully soon), then the guys playing these key positions as guaranteed starters need to be on that level that we have seen guys like De Bruyne, David Silva etc. Even Bruno Fernandes, brilliant player but his team is quite useless.

I agree with your last paragraph. What I will say is Maddison is a lot more injury prone otherwise he would be playing for a bigger club. Arsenal were looking to sign him but got put off by his price tag, which was £70m.

Odegaard has been with Arsenal since the 20/21 season. Since then:

• Odegaard: 48 G/A in 113 matches in the PL
• Maddison: 63 G/A in 115 matches in the PL

Maddison has played over 80% of these matches for Leicester, including the side that got relegated last season. I don't think he gets enough credit.

 

[PakLFC]

Arsenal played like cowards versus Man City. They did not even try to win instead bored people to death with what was a terrible advert for the EPL. After that inept performance this coward team doesn't deserve to be crowned champions.

 

[Mamoon]

You sound rattled. I understand because your zero ball knowledge got exposed. You promised us "Pepe is one of the hottest assets in Europe" but the truth is he was hot garbage who was only worth half of the fee that Arsenal signed him for.

Please don't pretend you schooled me on Zinchenko, all I have to do is pull up one post to expose your lies.

Please use your energy for promoting Babar, your zero ball knowledge isn't needed here.

First muster the courage to reply to my post in the Arteta thread and then talk.

 

[Mamoon]

I agree with your last paragraph. What I will say is Maddison is a lot more injury prone otherwise he would be playing for a bigger club. Arsenal were looking to sign him but got put off by his price tag, which was £70m.

Odegaard has been with Arsenal since the 20/21 season. Since then:

• Odegaard: 48 G/A in 113 matches in the PL
• Maddison: 63 G/A in 115 matches in the PL

Maddison has played over 80% of these matches for Leicester, including the side that got relegated last season. I don't think he gets enough credit.

Maddison gets enough credit. This is why after getting relegated, he earned a move to Spurs and there are calls for him to play for England too.

What more credit do you think he deserves. It is the cap for a player of his profile and stature.

You can give imagine him winning a Ballon d’Or if you want though.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Arsenal played like cowards versus Man City. They did not even try to win instead bored people to death with what was a terrible advert for the EPL. After that inept performance this coward team doesn't deserve to be crowned champions.

They played the way they needed to get the result they wanted.

If a win was a must then if they approached like this then fair enough but a point away to City is a great result so their approach was fine.

Ultimately, whoever finishes with the most points will be deserving of winning the league.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

As someone with no skin in this game, I rate both Maddison and Odegaard but if I could take one in my team it would be Odegaard.

 

[PakLFC]

They played the way they needed to get the result they wanted.

If a win was a must then if they approached like this then fair enough but a point away to City is a great result so their approach was fine.

Ultimately, whoever finishes with the most points will be deserving of winning the league.

They should have gone for the win. Playing safely doesn't win titles.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

They should have gone for the win. Playing safely doesn't win titles.

I'm not sure I agree, you can play safe in select matches and pick up points in the other games

I think not losing was the primary aim

Ultimately if they don't win the league and it's only 2 points in it then you could be right but alternatively if they win the league then this point could have been pivotal

 

[PakLFC]

I'm not sure I agree, you can play safe in select matches and pick up points in the other games

I think not losing was the primary aim

Ultimately if they don't win the league and it's only 2 points in it then you could be right but alternatively if they win the league then this point could have been pivotal

At this stage of the season with such a close finish Arsenal should have taken more risks. They would have been top of the league had they won the match. They also have the much tougher fixtures off the three going in to the final few matches. One point won't do them much good here.

 

[MK7Z]

As someone with no skin in this game, I rate both Maddison and Odegaard but if I could take one in my team it would be Odegaard.

Me 2.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion however Odegaard is the better player and great to watch.

Maddison is a good player. But if you were to ask an expert or ex player which they'd prefer to play with I'd say the vast majority would say Odegaard.

Also take stats with a pinch of salt. Look at Bruno Fernandes, his stats have been great but honestly his performances are absolutely diabolical and to mention him with Odegard or even Maddison is insulting.

The way Odegaard pulls the strings is art. Yes in certain games he finds it difficult and something he needs to improve on. Tbh a lot of Arsenal attacking players do.

 

[Amjid Javed]

so certain Liverpool, WWE United, Villa and City fans having a go for way Arsenal played.

Let's be real all of you wanted Arsenal to go to the eithad and be niave and get spanked. Fair play the team learnt a lesson from last season and played in a way which was required

You had one poster saying Arsenal were going to get smashed. Now when they get a draw is calling them cowards
.

But but Arsenal need to play Chelsea and man city away..

But but Man city will smash Arsenal at the eithad..

But but Arsensl are cowards..

Moving the excuse along after every game..

4 points vs City, 4 points vs liverpool

Yet certain Liverpool fans want to keep changing the excuses...

But but i havent eaten all day..

eating humble pie again

Same Liverpool team came to Emirates away in PL and got slapped senseless

Typical Liverpool fan

To the WWE United fan, please go watch wrestemania next week and stop with the Weak comparisons. Comparing a team which use Stoke City / Wimbledon tactics vs a team which as a one off played in pragmatic fashion.

To the Villa fan, do your job next weekend vs Man city. The game at Emirates will be a good one to watch later in season.

City fans crying because they didn't get there way as usual. Acting like spoilt brats. City should have been good enough with players they have to win the game.

Finally this is Not a celebration of a point gained, im disappointed Arsenal didn't take the chances Jesus and Trossard had.

9 games left and will see what happens. Rival fans getting salty because they couldn't banter Arsenal this weekend.

 

[Amjid Javed]

To add to my last post

"But but Arsenal should have taken more risk..."

And lost the game? And been behind 2 teams instead of one. Given Man city momentum to retain their title

Instead Arsenal are 2 points behind with a better GD, so reality is "if" Liverpool draw a game somewhere and Arsenal win. Arsensl would go above them

Same shameless new excuses from a Liverpool fan, every time he gets slapped with reality he moves onto new excuse

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Liverpool attacked Man city at eithad..

But but Man city were there for the taking...

End result Liverpool got a draw, as did Arsenal

Yet Liverpool fans want to make out their attacking approaching was better way to go when end result was the same

 

[Amjid Javed]

Compare his stats to Laccazete, one has to wonder why Jesus is treated so softly by the fan base. I don’t rate him at all man.

Jesus is just another lacazette, overhyped because of work rate and build up play. Goal output not much different. He should no longer be a 1st choice starter.

Also saka was once again poor in a game vs man city

 

[Amjid Javed]

If Liverpool win their last 9 games and win title, fair play you deserve it.

But Certain liverpool and liverpoll trolls claiming Arsenal bottled it yesterday or were cowards.

Arsenal have 8 points from 4 games vs City / Liverpool this season. City and Liverpool 3 points from same fixtures.

Arsenal underwhelming performances this season has been in London Derby's.

Played 10 - won 5, drawn 3 lost 2

Last season played 12 - won 10 drawn 2

So if Arsenal fall short, it will be the 5 points lost to Fulham and other dropped points at home in London derby's which will have been costly.

How can a team bottle a game at eithad? when no other team has won their this season, only 1 team won their last season.

Yet another example of Liverpool fans talking

 

[shaz619]

If Liverpool win their last 9 games and win title, fair play you deserve it.

But Certain liverpool and liverpoll trolls claiming Arsenal bottled it yesterday or were cowards.

Arsenal have 8 points from 4 games vs City / Liverpool this season. City and Liverpool 3 points from same fixtures.

Arsenal underwhelming performances this season has been in London Derby's.

Played 10 - won 5, drawn 3 lost 2

Last season played 12 - won 10 drawn 2

So if Arsenal fall short, it will be the 5 points lost to Fulham and other dropped points at home in London derby's which will have been costly.

How can a team bottle a game at eithad? when no other team has won their this season, only 1 team won their last season.

Yet another example of Liverpool fans talking

Why you starting beef for mate, vast majority gave you credit for the draw

Also, mathematically we are still in the title race

 

[Amjid Javed]

Why you starting beef for mate, vast majority gave you credit for the draw

Also, mathematically we are still in the title race

Not starting beef, just addressing a certain talking Liverpool fan who changes his excuses every game.

Yeah don't worry il be supporting villa when you play city and Liverpool

 

[shaz619]

Not starting beef, just addressing a certain talking Liverpool fan who changes his excuses every game.

Yeah don't worry il be supporting villa when you play city and Liverpool

Tottenham got the easier fixtures and I don’t know if Watkins will be at full health; imo the best player of the premier league and am worried he will follow in Grealish footsteps, how likely do you think we can make the CL? squeaky bum time for me

 

[Amjid Javed]

Tottenham got the easier fixtures and I don’t know if Watkins will be at full health; imo the best player of the premier league and am worried he will follow in Grealish footsteps, how likely do you think we can make the CL? squeaky bum time for me

Both you and Spurs still have to play top 3, so depends what points you both get from other fixtures. Also I think top 5 will make CL.

Also depends how seriously you take rest of conference league, or whether CL qualification is priority. Emery can't make Same mistake he made at Arsenal

Yeah you need to keep Watkins fit for rest of season, win by any means at this time of season

 

[shaz619]

Both you and Spurs still have to play top 3, so depends what points you both get from other fixtures. Also I think top 5 will make CL.

Also depends how seriously you take rest of conference league, or whether CL qualification is priority. Emery can't make Same mistake he made at Arsenal

Yeah you need to keep Watkins fit for rest of season, win by any means at this time of season

When we’ve tried to prioritise both the results have been terrible, e.g. that big home defeat against West Ham in the same week as the conference league. Personally I think he should prioritise CL qualification, we’ve been top 4 in the past but that was before the rule change, this opportunity may not come again for a while. Yes Watkins needs to be rested and saved ideally only for the PL games.

Was Unai caught in two minds with priority during that stint with Arsenal?

 

[MK7Z]

When we’ve tried to prioritise both the results have been terrible, e.g. that big home defeat against West Ham in the same week as the conference league. Personally I think he should prioritise CL qualification, we’ve been top 4 in the past but that was before the rule change, this opportunity may not come again for a while. Yes Watkins needs to be rested and saved ideally only for the PL games.

Was Unai caught in two minds with priority during that stint with Arsenal?

Yes he lost his head towards the end of his 1st season which some what tainted what was a decent 1st season.

Top 4 was pretty much certain dependant on home games vs Palace and Brighton. He picked an odd team which included Jenkinson, Mavrapanos and ElNenny against Palace. We lost.
Drew at home vs Brighton and he never really recovered after that.

He's a good manager I wish him well. Sometimes he has games under control and then tries things he doesn't need to.

Hope he gets Villa CL. Full credit to him if he does. Deserves the plaudits as he always remains classy.

 

[Amjid Javed]

When we’ve tried to prioritise both the results have been terrible, e.g. that big home defeat against West Ham in the same week as the conference league. Personally I think he should prioritise CL qualification, we’ve been top 4 in the past but that was before the rule change, this opportunity may not come again for a while. Yes Watkins needs to be rested and saved ideally only for the PL games.

Was Unai caught in two minds with priority during that stint with Arsenal?

Yeah in Emerys only full season at Arsenal we should have made top 4 easily, yet the team won 1 out of the last 8 fixtures, including 5 away defeats. He decided to play a weakened side at home to Crystal Palace and Brighton and prioritised EL instead, we lost to Palace and drew against Brighton.

Emery thought it would be easier to win EL then finish top 4.

So now at Villa, yeah the conference league would be good to win. But for villa to be able to buy better players etc.. making CL would be better goal to aim for

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

so certain Liverpool, WWE United, Villa and City fans having a go for way Arsenal played.

Let's be real all of you wanted Arsenal to go to the eithad and be niave and get spanked. Fair play the team learnt a lesson from last season and played in a way which was required

You had one poster saying Arsenal were going to get smashed. Now when they get a draw is calling them cowards
.

But but Arsenal need to play Chelsea and man city away..

But but Man city will smash Arsenal at the eithad..

But but Arsensl are cowards..

Moving the excuse along after every game..

4 points vs City, 4 points vs liverpool

Yet certain Liverpool fans want to keep changing the excuses...

But but i havent eaten all day..

eating humble pie again

Same Liverpool team came to Emirates away in PL and got slapped senseless

Typical Liverpool fan

To the WWE United fan, please go watch wrestemania next week and stop with the Weak comparisons. Comparing a team which use Stoke City / Wimbledon tactics vs a team which as a one off played in pragmatic fashion.

To the Villa fan, do your job next weekend vs Man city. The game at Emirates will be a good one to watch later in season.

City fans crying because they didn't get there way as usual. Acting like spoilt brats. City should have been good enough with players they have to win the game.

Finally this is Not a celebration of a point gained, im disappointed Arsenal didn't take the chances Jesus and Trossard had.

9 games left and will see what happens. Rival fans getting salty because they couldn't banter Arsenal this weekend.

I think you need to read my posts again, I haven't criticised Arsenal for the way they played, in fact I've praised them

I criticised the hypocrites who have an issue with a certain style of play until they are the ones that do it

 

[Amjid Javed]

I think you need to read my posts again, I haven't criticised Arsenal for the way they played, in fact I've praised them

I criticised the hypocrites who have an issue with a certain style of play until they are the ones that do it

Newcastle style of play in every big game is WWE, fouling, time wasting

Arsenal did it as a one off.

But according to you its the same thing

Every season Newcastle come to Emirates you use same spoiling tactics.

The fact you can differenciate is on you

 

[KingKhanWC]

I didn’t explain myself properly.

Not just finishing second but seriously challenging for the title.

Challenging for the title shows that the team is trending in the right direction. It shows that they have the right ingredients in place to win the league and need a few finishing touches.

When you limp to third or fourth without fighting for the title and are moons away from the champion and the title challengers, it shows that you have no direction and need an overhaul.

Take United’s example from last season - they won the league cup, but they were completely out of sorts and couldn’t fight for the title.

United fans were not happy and it was obvious that Ten Hag had to improve and rebuild the squad.

For a club like Arsenal, United, Liverpool, City, Chelsea etc., winning domestic cups mean nothing if you are not fighting for the title because you can win an FA Cup or a league cup when you are poor but you cannot fight for the title if you are poor.

Arsenal won 4 FA Cups in 6 years but they did nothing for the club and the club had no direction. Why? Simply because they were very poor in the league.

Arsenal fans wanted Wenger to leave the club even though Wenger was winning FA Cups left right and center simply because he was not challenging for the title.

This and the last season have been Arsenal’s best seasons since 2007-08 because it is the first time over a decade that Arsenal have mounted series title challenges.


I don’t care about nonsense like Opta. It is clear that Opta is run by statisticians and programmers who don’t know anything about football and don’t watch it either.

Arsenal are only two points behind Liverpool with the best GD in the league, most goals scored, least goals conceded.

Arsenal have taken 4 points of both Liverpool and City, so how come Arsenal only have a 14% chance. That is complete rubbish.

All three have fairly equal chance of winning at this point.

You should hold your hand up and admit your mistake already because Arteta has proved you wrong already. Go back to 2020-2021 and you never thought in a million years that Arsenal would be where they are today under Arteta.

You never thought Arteta was good enough to have Arsenal fight for the league and now that he has proved you wrong, you are changing the goalposts because you don’t want to admit that you were wrong.

As far as Mourinho is concerned, he has still got what it takes to win titles with mature squads. This is why I think he will be a great short-term fix for Liverpool now that Xabi Alonso has rejected Liverpool because he is waiting for a far bigger club like Madrid.

Liverpool’s core is at its peak and someone like Mourinho could be the ideal manager to come in and instill winning mentality in this team which Klopp couldn’t.

1 PL in 10 years with such a great team shows that Klopp lacked that winning mentality and ruthless mindset that Mourinho has demonstrated on numerous occasions in his career.

Also, don’t give me this excuse of Liverpool being made up of new players. Yes there are some new faces but most of the core of the squad has remained.

Salah, Trent, VVD, Alisson, Robertson are still at the club and they are part of the core that brought success to the club. Your excuse of Liverpool having a new team would be valid only when most of these guys leave.

This is something like a schoolboy essay on a subject which you’re never studied .

I’ll keep it short .

Klopp has won more than just 1 PL , he has plenty of silverware in CL win , which Arsenal have never won in over 100 years . I doubt you knew what football was when Henry missed a sitter in the final .

Half of LFC starting line up on Sunday weren’t starting last season .

Arteta has won nothing . Arsenal fans celebrating a clean sheet while ending up 2 points behind is hilarious & not winning mentality.

Losing while competing may give you pride but Liverpool prefer winning.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Newcastle style of play in every big game is WWE, fouling, time wasting

Arsenal did it as a one off.

But according to you its the same thing

Every season Newcastle come to Emirates you use same spoiling tactics.

The fact you can differenciate is on you

Again, you are showing how clueless you are as that isn't how we play in every big game

But I'm not surprised you think that, it's a typical coping mechanism when called out on being hypocritical. The human being is such that he finds it difficult to hold his hands up and say "yeah, my bad, I was wrong to criticise others" or say "yes, I criticise others and I'll criticise my team too because that is being fair and objective"

Instead, the human being is such he becomes irrational and defensive and makes stuff up, personally I think it requires more effort but there you go

I'm done with this subject, feel free to have the last word if it helps you sleep at night. I simply wanted to call out your hypocrisy and this doubling down from you has further highlighted the absurdity.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Again, you are showing how clueless you are as that isn't how we play in every big game

But I'm not surprised you think that, it's a typical coping mechanism when called out on being hypocritical. The human being is such that he finds it difficult to hold his hands up and say "yeah, my bad, I was wrong to criticise others" or say "yes, I criticise others and I'll criticise my team too because that is being fair and objective"

Instead, the human being is such he becomes irrational and defensive and makes stuff up, personally I think it requires more effort but there you go

I'm done with this subject, feel free to have the last word if it helps you sleep at night. I simply wanted to call out your hypocrisy and this doubling down from you has further highlighted the absurdity.

we all know Newcastle next season will play in same manner they do every game away to Arsenal, the last time you showed ambition in away games was under Kevin keegan.

All this righteous talk is hilarious, everyone knows Newcastle Park the bus away from home against any top side.

Someone should tell Newcastle owners they bought a rugby club instead of football club

 

[Mamoon]

This is something like a schoolboy essay on a subject which you’re never studied .

I’ll keep it short .

Klopp has won more than just 1 PL , he has plenty of silverware in CL win , which Arsenal have never won in over 100 years . I doubt you knew what football was when Henry missed a sitter in the final .

Half of LFC starting line up on Sunday weren’t starting last season .

Arteta has won nothing . Arsenal fans celebrating a clean sheet while ending up 2 points behind is hilarious & not winning mentality.

Losing while competing may give you pride but Liverpool prefer winning.

Winning UCL won't change the fact that he has 1 PL in 10 years. That reflects very poorly on him. In addition , he had two rubbish seasons in the last four years with a title winning squad (2020-2021, 2022-2023).

Klopp is not a winner and he has failed to instill a winning mentality in his squad. Your crying wont change that. If Arteta leaves Arsenal after 10 years with just 1 title, I will be disappointed.

I think losing while competing gives Liverpool fans a lot of pride too and this is why you lot are in love with Klopp because 1 title in 10 years is not called "winning".

I remember Henry missing chances in the 2006 final. I watched it live, just like 2 years before that I watched Henry molest Liverpool at Highbury and made Jamie Carragher look like a Championship defender.

In fact, I also remember Gerrard's beautiful through ball to Henry at Highbury in 2005-2006 season.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Winning UCL won't change the fact that he has 1 PL in 10 years. That reflects very poorly on him. In addition , he had two rubbish seasons in the last four years with a title winning squad (2020-2021, 2022-2023).

Klopp is not a winner and he has failed to instill a winning mentality in his squad. Your crying wont change that. If Arteta leaves Arsenal after 10 years with just 1 title, I will be disappointed.

I think losing while competing gives Liverpool fans a lot of pride too and this is why you lot are in love with Klopp because 1 title in 10 years is not called "winning".

I remember Henry missing chances in the 2006 final. I watched it live, just like 2 years before that I watched Henry molest Liverpool at Highbury and made Jamie Carragher look like a Championship defender.

In fact, I also remember Gerrard's beautiful through ball to Henry at Highbury in 2005-2006 season.

Arteta has won ZERO PL & ZERO any sliverware & you’re still chirping

If you come to England I’ll take you to Birmingham City FC , they won as much as Arsenal in the past 4 years .

 

[MK7Z]

Arteta has won ZERO PL & ZERO any sliverware & you’re still chirping

If you come to England I’ll take you to Birmingham City FC , they won as much as Arsenal in the past 4 years .

Hate getting involved in these individual battles. However did Birmingham win the FA Cup or community shield in the last 4 years.

Please continue but at least use accurate information.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Hate getting involved in these individual battles. However did Birmingham win the FA Cup or community shield in the last 4 years.

Please continue but at least use accurate information.

Community shield is a charity game . FA cup was won by Arsenal with Arteta as manager but it wasn’t his team , he only came to manage a little earlier .

Pls tell me you don’t also believe Klopp is not a better manager than Arteta .

 

[Mamoon]

His team, that team? What is that?

There is a thing called tactics. Arteta won the FA Cup by beating City and Chelsea in the semifinal and final. It was his tactics that in game management that helped Arsenal overcome them.

The same set players got humiliated by Chelsea 12 months earlier in the Europa League Final. Besides, I don't even care about the FA Cup. The only thing that matters is league performance.

I repeat myself - if Arteta leaves Arsenal after 10 years with just 1 league title, I will look back at his era and view him as a serial underachiever.

As far as Arteta vs Klopp is concerned, lets not forget that Arteta has taken Klopp to school in the league in the last two seasons.

 

[MK7Z]

Community shield is a charity game . FA cup was won by Arsenal with Arteta as manager but it wasn’t his team , he only came to manage a little earlier .


Pls tell me you don’t also believe Klopp is not a better manager than Arteta .

Klopp is better than Arteta. Once Artetas managerial career is the same length as Klopp, time will tell who ends up being the better manager. Currently it's Klopp there isn't much debate tbh. Arteta is doing alrite for himself.

Just for the record I don't buy into the "it wasn't his team it was Emery's". From the top of my head the majority of players who played the final were Wenger signings anyway. Barring maybe 3 or 4.

It kinda debunks your statement of Birmingham having won the same amount. That's all.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Arteta has done a brilliant job so far, taking Arsenal from jokers in the league to challenging for the title.

And not challenging because others are poor but challenging by raising the standards of the team, they are arguably the most all rounded side in the league. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll win the league but only a fool would deny the massive progress he has made.

There's many Arsenal fans that wanted him sacked and to turn the majority of them around takes some doing.

However, comparisons with Klopp are simply foolish. In 5-10 years if Arteta wins things then maybe a conversion can take place but right now all things considered it isn't even a contest.

Even though I don't like Arteta due to his antics there is a part of me that would like him to win because it shows what coaching and tactics can achieve. Though, there are a significant section of Arsenal fans that don't deserve to win the league. They are truly are an odd bunch.

 

[rpant_gabba]

boring game and bad advertisement for soccer.

Arsenal was happy to park the bus. MC was happy to have possesion.

shitty game with no memorable action.

 

[MK7Z]

Arteta has done a brilliant job so far, taking Arsenal from jokers in the league to challenging for the title.

And not challenging because others are poor but challenging by raising the standards of the team, they are arguably the most all rounded side in the league. That doesn't necessarily mean they'll win the league but only a fool would deny the massive progress he has made.

There's many Arsenal fans that wanted him sacked and to turn the majority of them around takes some doing.

However, comparisons with Klopp are simply foolish. In 5-10 years if Arteta wins things then maybe a conversion can take place but right now all things considered it isn't even a contest.

Even though I don't like Arteta due to his antics there is a part of me that would like him to win because it shows what coaching and tactics can achieve. Though, there are a significant section of Arsenal fans that don't deserve to win the league. They are truly are an odd bunch.

Spot on and practically what I said.

On Arsenal fans... All the big teams have them odd fans who make the weird comps and compilations. Or blindly support certain players.

I put it down to the fact this is probably the best it's ever been for them. Their 1st real title challenges during their lifetime.

They're probably in their 20s close to 30 so they've never known it so good.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Gunners need to be 'close' to perfection: Arteta

On whether they will need to win all of the remaining games to be in with a chance of winning the league, Mikel Arteta said: "I don’t know, but it’s going to have to be really close to that.

"You can see the consistency from the other teams and historically what is needed points wise. It is going to be close to needing that."

 

[MK7Z]

I caught Newcastle Everton game during halftime of spurs game.

I saw the penalty Newcastle gave and chuckled to myself remembering @Amjid Javed and @Geordie Ahmed debate over the last couple of days

 

[Amjid Javed]

I caught Newcastle Everton game during halftime of spurs game.

I saw the penalty Newcastle gave and chuckled to myself remembering @Amjid Javed and @Geordie Ahmed debate over the last couple of days

Didn't know you liked watching Rugby

 

[Amjid Javed]

Again, you are showing how clueless you are as that isn't how we play in every big game

But I'm not surprised you think that, it's a typical coping mechanism when called out on being hypocritical. The human being is such that he finds it difficult to hold his hands up and say "yeah, my bad, I was wrong to criticise others" or say "yes, I criticise others and I'll criticise my team too because that is being fair and objective"

Instead, the human being is such he becomes irrational and defensive and makes stuff up, personally I think it requires more effort but there you go

I'm done with this subject, feel free to have the last word if it helps you sleep at night. I simply wanted to call out your hypocrisy and this doubling down from you has further highlighted the absurdity.

What WWE move was being attempted here? Like I said every game Newcastle use rugby / WWE / Aussie rules tactics

 

[topspin]

What WWE move was being attempted here? Like I said every game Newcastle use rugby / WWE / Aussie rules tactics



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Sorry but shouldn’t this be in the WWE thread? Looks like a wrestling move to me.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Sorry but shouldn’t this be in the WWE thread? Looks like a wrestling move to me.

Looks an Audition for WWE

 

[MK7Z]

Lots of changes today. Understandable with all the games coming up, this was obvious choice for rotation.

If the players coming in don't perform then they can have no complains about lack of minutes.

Reckon 3-0

 

[Amjid Javed]

Lots of changes today. Understandable with all the games coming up, this was obvious choice for rotation.

If the players coming in don't perform then they can have no complains about lack of minutes.

Reckon 3-0

100% spot on, chances for ESR, Partey, trossard and Nelson in particular

Needs to win and win well

 

[shaz619]

I give Arteta credit, did criticise him last season but that was because I was sick of City and their monopoly on the EPL; I didn’t know if Arsenal finishing no.2 was a fluke. This season there are three horses in the race and Arsenal are back in the mix, plus they gave City a wedgie at the Etihad and that’s a big deal

 

[KingKhanWC]

Changes were needed with fixtures coming thick & fast .

Should be an easy win v Luton , who are terrible away .

 

[shaz619]

What WWE move was being attempted here? Like I said every game Newcastle use rugby / WWE / Aussie rules tactics



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He’s attempting Dolph Ziggler’s finishing move there

 

[shaz619]

Sorry but shouldn’t this be in the WWE thread? Looks like a wrestling move to me.

Yep, I can confirm this was attempted: