Arsenal FC | 2023/24 Season

[Kroll]

Looks like Shehzada is back to post his apology and we can all start afresh for next season.

 

[Mamoon]

So 3 times now Arteta cheer leader exposed

1) Didnt apologize after saying he would if Arsenal ended season trophyless

Please quote the post where I said that I will apologize if Arsenal don’t win a trophy this season. I have asked you a million times and you bottle it every time because you know that you lie.

2) Asked if Arsenal would win away to spurs and united - he said No

No, you said that Arsenal won won’t at both Spurs and United because they have never won at both grounds in the same season for 40 years.

That showed your lack of understanding of football because historic records mean nothing because it is all about the current circumstances. Arsenal’s past record has nothing to do with this current team.

I said that if Arsenal were to not win both games, it will have nothing to do with history. It will because Spurs and United have done decently at home in the big games.

3) Arteta will win 2 out next 3 PLs, to he will win 2 out 4. In space of week moving the goal posts..

It is a general statement. My view is Arsenal will win league under Arteta soon and I would actually back and this team to do it twice at least and not just once like Klopp’s Liverpool.

I hope you are still around the forum when that happens so that you can own up to your past statements where you claimed that Arteta is a clueless fraud who should have been sacked in 2020.

However, then again, we know that you don’t have the chops to own up to your statements. Not only are you completely clueless when it comes to football, you also have a toxic agenda.

Thankfully, the vast majority of Arsenal fans are not like you which is your opinion and criticism means absolutely nothing. No one cares what you think.

Arteta is not going anywhere and the fans are fully behind him and so is the club. You need to find another outlet to vent your frustration because no one is bothered by what you say.

 

[Mamoon]

Looks like Shehzada is back to post his apology and we can all start afresh for next season.

Please quote the post where I said that I will apologize if Arsenal don’t win a trophy this season. Are you going to bottle this question like Amjid

 

[Mamoon]

Of course Arsenal have improved but you’re leaving out important information .

Arteta has spent a lot of money & in 4 years barring an early FA cup win has bought ZERO trophies , not even a Champions league final .

Will you as a fan be content with Arteta in 12 months time if he again fails to bring in a single trophy ? Or how many seasons are you happy with competing with an empty cabinet ?

I only care for the Premier League and a decent run in the UCL. Domestic cups mean nothing for big clubs.

Wenger won 3 FA Cups in 4 years but he was still driven out of the club and now suddenly FA Cups have become important.

You have to fight for the title every season. Anything less than that is not good enough. As long as Arsenal are fighting for the title and making a real fist of it and not going out in a whimper like Liverpool this season, I am happy with Arteta.

It would mean nothing to me if Arsenal win both domestic cups next season and finish 3rd/4th in the league without mounting a title challenge.

Arsenal won 4 FA Cups between 2014-2020, but this & the previous trophy less seasons were far better than any of those 4 FA Cup winning seasons because Arsenal have fought for the title and played like a proper, big club.

As far as winning the UCL is concerned, it is a knockout competition at the end of the day and the best teams don’t always win it. Winning the UCL doesn’t mean you are the best team in Europe or in your league.

The real measure of the strength of any club is performance in their own league.

As long as Arsenal is amongst the top two teams in the Premier League which they are, and can have a decent run in the UCLs by making the QF and SF which they have & should, I don’t see any reason why Arteta should be replaced.

However, if Arsenal regress from this point onwards and they don’t fight for the title next season, there will be question marks on Arteta’s future even if wins domestic cups.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Please quote the post where I said that I will apologize if Arsenal don’t win a trophy this season. I have asked you a million times and you bottle it every time because you know that you lie.

No, you said that Arsenal won won’t at both Spurs and United because they have never won at both grounds in the same season for 40 years.

That showed your lack of understanding of football because historic records mean nothing because it is all about the current circumstances. Arsenal’s past record has nothing to do with this current team.

I said that if Arsenal were to not win both games, it will have nothing to do with history. It will because Spurs and United have done decently at home in the big games.

It is a general statement. My view is Arsenal will win league under Arteta soon and I would actually back and this team to do it twice at least and not just once like Klopp’s Liverpool.

I hope you are still around the forum when that happens so that you can own up to your past statements where you claimed that Arteta is a clueless fraud who should have been sacked in 2020.

However, then again, we know that you don’t have the chops to own up to your statements. Not only are you completely clueless when it comes to football, you also have a toxic agenda.

Thankfully, the vast majority of Arsenal fans are not like you which is your opinion and criticism means absolutely nothing. No one cares what you think.

Arteta is not going anywhere and the fans are fully behind him and so is the club. You need to find another outlet to vent your frustration because no one is bothered by what you say.

spoken like a true

I have no interest in your repeated 1,000 word bedtime stories.

I exposed you 3 times. It's all good you giving bravado, but is all fake. Make bold statements and then slipping in a disclaimer to avoid humiliation (behaviour of a coward)

Il criticise where I see fit, I will give praise where I see fit as well. I'm consistent with my views and don't need to move the goalpost like you do.

The fact you can't give a balanced view. All fake positivity, the fact you can't criticise where it's warranted. For example Arteta falling short 4 seasons running. Just shows that the only one with an agenda is the one who keeps coming up with excuses and changing their predictions.

The lack of consistency. lack of applying your same logic to all scenarios just shows your beliefs are hollow and your merely trying to force your losing opinion on others.

I could expose you again by saying of Arteta doesn't win CL or PL next season, you have to leave PP forever. But I know you have no confidence so you will just run off as usual

 

[Amjid Javed]

A decent run In CL more fake cheerleading. Zero confidence in manager winning a trophy in Europe.

Exposure number 4

 

[Kroll]

Please quote the post where I said that I will apologize if Arsenal don’t win a trophy this season. Are you going to bottle this question like Amjid

I didn't actually say you did so wouldn't be bottling anything, I'm only going off Amjids claims. Nevertheless, you should apologize in the interests of good faith after being consistently bested in this thread and taking up valuable time in reading your nonsense. Oh well some things don't change just like Arsenal not winning the league.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I didn't actually say you did so wouldn't be bottling anything, I'm only going off Amjids claims. Nevertheless, you should apologize in the interests of good faith after being consistently bested in this thread and taking up valuable time in reading your nonsense. Oh well some things don't change just like Arsenal not winning the league.

Don't worry bro he's got Fireworks, eggs and tomatoes all boxed up which are 2 years past their sell by date

 

[Kroll]

Don't worry bro he's got Fireworks, eggs and tomatoes all boxed up which are 2 years past their sell by date

@Technics 1210 also the saved bookmarks.

 

[Technics 1210]

I don't understand? How can someone who doesn't rate the English Premier League only care for the EPL, oh and a decent run in UCL, which is a nothing tournament according to the same person.

Don't get it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

I only care for the Premier League and a decent run in the UCL. Domestic cups mean nothing for big clubs.

Wenger won 3 FA Cups in 4 years but he was still driven out of the club and now suddenly FA Cups have become important.

You have to fight for the title every season. Anything less than that is not good enough. As long as Arsenal are fighting for the title and making a real fist of it and not going out in a whimper like Liverpool this season, I am happy with Arteta.

It would mean nothing to me if Arsenal win both domestic cups next season and finish 3rd/4th in the league without mounting a title challenge.

Arsenal won 4 FA Cups between 2014-2020, but this & the previous trophy less seasons were far better than any of those 4 FA Cup winning seasons because Arsenal have fought for the title and played like a proper, big club.

As far as winning the UCL is concerned, it is a knockout competition at the end of the day and the best teams don’t always win it. Winning the UCL doesn’t mean you are the best team in Europe or in your league.

The real measure of the strength of any club is performance in their own league.

As long as Arsenal is amongst the top two teams in the Premier League which they are, and can have a decent run in the UCLs by making the QF and SF which they have & should, I don’t see any reason why Arteta should be replaced.

However, if Arsenal regress from this point onwards and they don’t fight for the title next season, there will be question marks on Arteta’s future even if wins domestic cups.

Arsenal are the 3rd most successful club in England. They have a huge fan base around the world. Simply competing in the premier league is not enough . Domestic cups don’t matter when you’re cruising the league & reaching finals or winning European cup . But when you’re competing they do . Wenger was buying rubbish & wasn’t backed imo . But you can’t use his example , Arsenals greatest manager , he won a lot .

If you finish 2nd even with 90+ points & winning no silverware, only a minority of Arsenal fans will want him to stay imo .

I can name you 15 out of 15 past league winners but not many who finished 2nd .

As for champions league, you’re being disingenuous, it is the biggest club trophy in the world. Henry missed a sitter in the final , I still remember it clearly . Wenger was so close to this glory . If Arteta wind the champions league for Arsenal he will be a legend forever, even if not winning the league . If Arsenal had a history of winning this , I think you’d be talking differently

 

[KingKhanWC]

A decent run In CL more fake cheerleading. Zero confidence in manager winning a trophy in Europe.

Exposure number 4

Pls tell me Arsenal fans want to win the CL & would be delighted ? Shocking to read from an Arsenal fan tbh

 

[Mamoon]

I didn't actually say you did so wouldn't be bottling anything, I'm only going off Amjids claims. Nevertheless, you should apologize in the interests of good faith after being consistently bested in this thread and taking up valuable time in reading your nonsense. Oh well some things don't change just like Arsenal not winning the league.

I see. So you got excited based on a lie peddled by another poster and now you have cowered when you have been put on the spot. I can’t say I didn’t expect it.

 

[Mamoon]

spoken like a true

I have no interest in your repeated 1,000 word bedtime stories.

I exposed you 3 times. It's all good you giving bravado, but is all fake. Make bold statements and then slipping in a disclaimer to avoid humiliation (behaviour of a coward)

Il criticise where I see fit, I will give praise where I see fit as well. I'm consistent with my views and don't need to move the goalpost like you do.

The fact you can't give a balanced view. All fake positivity, the fact you can't criticise where it's warranted. For example Arteta falling short 4 seasons running. Just shows that the only one with an agenda is the one who keeps coming up with excuses and changing their predictions.

The lack of consistency. lack of applying your same logic to all scenarios just shows your beliefs are hollow and your merely trying to force your losing opinion on others.

I could expose you again by saying of Arteta doesn't win CL or PL next season, you have to leave PP forever. But I know you have no confidence so you will just run off as usual

Please quote the post where I said that I will apologize if Arsenal don’t win a trophy this season.

 

[Mamoon]

I don't understand? How can someone who doesn't rate the English Premier League only care for the EPL, oh and a decent run in UCL, which is a nothing tournament according to the same person.

Don't get it?

However, let me hold your hand and walk you through it out of the goodness of my heart.

It is not about the Premier League or any particular league. It is about the fact that the league performance is a more significant indicator of the relative strength of a team rather than any cup competition including the UCL.

The UCL at the end of the day is a cup competition and cup competitions are a flawed system to determine how strong or weak a team is.

Just because you add prestige to a cup competition doesn’t make it any less flawed.

United are in the FA Cup and they have had a poor season. BVB are in the UCL final and they are currently not even amongst the four best German sides.

For any club, irrespective of whether they are in the PL or La Liga or Bundesliga or Serie A or Ligue 1, the league position will be a much a better indicator of how good or bad they are in comparison to their performances in cup competitions, be it domestic cups or European cups.

The relative strength of the PL compared to other European leagues is a different debate altogether, and the PL is not the benchmark of football regardless of the superiority complex and delusions of PL fans.

The PL is on par with La Liga and a little ahead of Serie A and Bundesliga at this point although it has been inferior to Serie A for the best part of its history.

It does not stand alone in world football as a lot of PL fans like to think due to their lack of exposure towards football outside England.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Pls tell me Arsenal fans want to win the CL & would be delighted ? Shocking to read from an Arsenal fan tbh

This is yet another indicator of his fake cheerleading, he knows Arteta can't win CL or even europa league. That's why the excuse a decent run to CL came from.

Sadly he's not the only loser in the fan base like this. To many have been brainwashed to accept failure

 

[Mamoon]

Il criticise where I see fit, I will give praise where I see fit as well. I'm consistent with my views and don't need to move the goalpost like you do.

“I am consistent with my views”

The consistency:

2020-2021: “Arteta should be sacked because Arsenal will never fight for the PL under him”

2023-2024: “Arteta should be sacked because Arsenal will never win the PL under him”

When Arteta wins the PL, the criteria for success and the goalposts will move again to avoid admitting that Arteta has proved you wrong.

Please understand this. Your opinion on Arteta and the direction the club is heading in means absolutely nothing because the vast majority of Arsenal fans and the club are firmly behind Arteta.

This frustrates you but you can keep shouting within empty walls. You can either choose to wallop in your own toxic agenda or you can join the rest of us and enjoy the journey that Arsenal is on right now.

You don’t realize how embarrassing you will look when you participate in the celebrations when Arsenal win the league under Arteta.

 

[Kroll]

I see. So you got excited based on a lie peddled by another poster and now you have cowered when you have been put on the spot. I can’t say I didn’t expect it.

Cowered with what? I didnt make any claims, so nothing to cower about. Take the loss with grace and just apologise. And learn not to make more tall claims as it will only come to bite you like it has these two past seasons.

And btw where have you popped out of all a sudden in supporting Arsenal? You could have picked a decent team like Liverpool.

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal are the 3rd most successful club in England. They have a huge fan base around the world. Simply competing in the premier league is not enough . Domestic cups don’t matter when you’re cruising the league & reaching finals or winning European cup . But when you’re competing they do . Wenger was buying rubbish & wasn’t backed imo . But you can’t use his example , Arsenals greatest manager , he won a lot .

I used his example because Arsenal fans drove him out of the club in spite of winning 3 trophies in his last 4 years because winning domestic cups has no value if you are not fighting for the league.

If Wenger’s Arsenal in the last 10 years would have played the level of football that Arteta’s Arsenal is playing, Wenger would probably still have been at the club even if he hadn’t won all those FA Cups in his last few years.

Arteta’s Arsenal are playing the highest level of football that any Arsenal team has played in 20 years and this is why the fans are firmly behind him and the club is fully backing him.

There isn’t a single Arsenal team post 2008 that fought for the title the way Arteta’s team is.

If you finish 2nd even with 90+ points & winning no silverware, only a minority of Arsenal fans will want him to stay imo .

That depends on the circumstances as I explained in post #4,469 in response to MKZ.

I can name you 15 out of 15 past league winners but not many who finished 2nd .

I can also name you each and every moment that I have suffered over the years as an Arsenal fan and how painful those moments were.

I have waited for years and years to see Arsenal where they are today.

As for champions league, you’re being disingenuous, it is the biggest club trophy in the world. Henry missed a sitter in the final , I still remember it clearly . Wenger was so close to this glory . If Arteta wind the champions league for Arsenal he will be a legend forever, even if not winning the league . If Arsenal had a history of winning this , I think you’d be talking differently

Don’t get me wrong. I would absolutely love to win the UCL because it elevates your legacy. Not winning the UCL with the 2000-2005 Arsenal team has hurt Wenger’s legacy and it is the main reason why he’s ranked below SAF, Pep and Mourinho, but my point is that if you offer me a PL or a UCL, I would go for the PL any day.

I would much rather win the PL and get knocked out in the UCL groups than to win the UCL and finish 4th in the league without challenging for the title.

Winning the league means you are clearly the best team in your league and you have proved that over the course of the season, but you can win the UCL without being the team in your league and therefore by extension, without being the best team in Europe.

For example, Chelsea made a mockery of the UCL in 2012 and exposed the flawed nature of the format when they won the UCL while finishing 6th in its own league and 25 pts behind the champions.

Similarly, it is a joke to see BVB play in the UCL final when they are not even amongst the top 4 teams in its own league right now.

Success in UCL, or any cup competition, is a combination of favorable draw, good fortune and of course having a knockout mentality, but when it comes to winning or competing in the league, there is no question of favorable draws and good fortune because it is a true test of how good or bad a team is.

 

[Mamoon]

Take the loss with grace and just apologise. And learn not to make more tall claims as it will only come to bite you like it has these two past seasons.

You mean tall claims like, last season was a one off and Arsenal will be fighting for a top 4 this season?

And btw where have you popped out of all a sudden in supporting Arsenal? You could have picked a decent team like Liverpool.

I have explained this multiple times but perhaps not recently. My cousins are Arsenal season ticket holders, My uncle moved to the UK in the 70s and in fact more than half of my extended family is settled in the UK for generations.

My father was the only sibling who didn’t move mainly because he was serving in Pakistan civil service while my uncles were doctors.

Growing up, I spent most of my summer holidays in the UK and I was introduced to football and Arsenal by my family.

I didn’t get to choose which club to support but I’m very happy that fate aligned me with Arsenal and supporting this club has been a huge part of my life and will remain

 

[Amjid Javed]

Don't you dare

Don't dare what?

You came up with a quote that kronkes had invested their own money into Club since they took full ownership in 2018. I gave you FACTs that in last 3 years they haven't. You do this every time you have no response to come back with. If you want to debate and then throw a strop after. That's up to you.

 

[Amjid Javed]

“I am consistent with my views”

The consistency:

2020-2021: “Arteta should be sacked because Arsenal will never fight for the PL under him”

2023-2024: “Arteta should be sacked because Arsenal will never win the PL under him”

When Arteta wins the PL, the criteria for success and the goalposts will move again to avoid admitting that Arteta has proved you wrong.

Please understand this. Your opinion on Arteta and the direction the club is heading in means absolutely nothing because the vast majority of Arsenal fans and the club are firmly behind Arteta.

This frustrates you but you can keep shouting within empty walls. You can either choose to wallop in your own toxic agenda or you can join the rest of us and enjoy the journey that Arsenal is on right now.

You don’t realize how embarrassing you will look when you participate in the celebrations when Arsenal win the league under Arteta.

I judge all managers at big clubs on the trophies they win, Arteta is no different. Doesn't matter who the Arsenal manager is, 4 seasons with a trophy. 4 seasons without a final is shambolic.

On top of that bottling it a europa semi, top 4, title race is unacceptable. Even this season the dogs dinner Arteta made in the villa game ultimately cost Arsenal the title.

Both you and MK7Z asked me if I would give credit if Arteta won title.

My response on both occasions, was yes I'd give him credit. Just like I would any manager winning a title. That's consistency, no hiding, no running off to cricket forum like you dId, no lying etc..

But guess what he's not won title or CL or in europe. So their is nothing for me to give credit for. I've seen plenty of managers progess and have nothing to show for it

Yet every time I've called you out I exposed you. I asked you at end of last year if you would apologize if Arsenal went trophyless.

You always conviently move the goalpost posts. I numerous examples of that in last two seasons. Everyone can see you your fake cheerleading.

Your - Arsenal win 2 titles in next 3 years, then 2 titles in next 4 years wasn't just a comment.

You also have said that if Arsenal went to seasons without a title it would be a concern. Yet you conviently gloss over these things.

So don't call me out saying in not consistent. When you flip flop every few days.

 

[Kroll]

Your - Arsenal win 2 titles in next 3 years, then 2 titles in next 4 years wasn't just a comment.

Don't forget they also went back in time and won another eight titles or so.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Don't forget they also went back in time and won another eight titles or so.

Oh yeah forgot about that means Arsenal have more titles then united and Liverpool now.

Back to the future 4, staring Mickey Arteta

 

[Technics 1210]

You mean tall claims like, last season was a one off and Arsenal will be fighting for a top 4 this season?

I have explained this multiple times but perhaps not recently. My cousins are Arsenal season ticket holders, My uncle moved to the UK in the 70s and in fact more than half of my extended family is settled in the UK for generations.

My father was the only sibling who didn’t move mainly because he was serving in Pakistan civil service while my uncles were doctors.

Growing up, I spent most of my summer holidays in the UK and I was introduced to football and Arsenal by my family.

I didn’t get to choose which club to support but I’m very happy that fate aligned me with Arsenal and supporting this club has been a huge part of my life and will remain

Arteta can win the next 10 EPL titles but no one will take your views on footy serious anymore.

Next season is the mothership of attrition and regression - Arteta's last shot to fluke a title win.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

It's true the Kroenkes don't spend any of their own money. They have been let off the hook in recent years due to the Club becoming competitive again.

They have authorised big money signings to be fair to them which is more than they used to. Josh does turn up more than his dad at the stadium which is something.

On Edu. He 100% needs to do better at sales. We have dead wood players as mentioned previously that are all 20+ million at minimum in the current market.

To be fair to Edu he did get decent money for Xhaka last year.

Tavares, Lokonga, probably sadly KT, ESR, Eddie, Ramsdale, Zinchenko, Riess. Add this to our transfer kitty and we could really show ambition for next season.

Also unfortunately Thomas Partey looks to be on his way out. We'll need to replace him to.

Can we have Bruno @Geordie Ahmed ?

I'd say no but apparently his release clause is in place until the end of June so if you meet that and he wants away then you can have him

Though, instead we have a Longstaff we can give you?

 

[MK7Z]

Love the Longstaffs just because they had a run of scoring against Man United

I'd say no but apparently his release clause is in place until the end of June so if you meet that and he wants away then you can have him

Though, instead we have a Longstaff we can give you?

 

[MK7Z]

Arteta can win the next 10 EPL titles but no one will take your views on footy serious anymore.

Next season is the mothership of attrition and regression - Arteta's last shot to fluke a title win.

Fluke?

I can't tell whether you are trolling and antagonising a certain individual or if you are serious so I will just stay out of it I think.

 

[Technics 1210]

Fluke?

I can't tell whether you are trolling and antagonising a certain individual or if you are serious so I will just stay out of it I think.

Yes fluke.

You must be new here, people palms off every Pakistan Cricket achievement (and other team achievements in other sports) as a fluke, now they will realise just how fluky his beloved Arsenal is.

 

[MK7Z]

Yes fluke.

You must be new here, people palms off every Pakistan Cricket achievement (and other team achievements in other sports) as a fluke, now they will realise just how fluky his beloved Arsenal is.

Ok cool I will stay out of this. I see what you are doing here

 

[MK7Z]

Yes fluke.

You must be new here, people palms off every Pakistan Cricket achievement (and other team achievements in other sports) as a fluke, now they will realise just how fluky his beloved Arsenal is.

By the way. I respect everyone's opinions and don't take sides.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I used his example because Arsenal fans drove him out of the club in spite of winning 3 trophies in his last 4 years because winning domestic cups has no value if you are not fighting for the league.

If Wenger’s Arsenal in the last 10 years would have played the level of football that Arteta’s Arsenal is playing, Wenger would probably still have been at the club even if he hadn’t won all those FA Cups in his last few years.

Arteta’s Arsenal are playing the highest level of football that any Arsenal team has played in 20 years and this is why the fans are firmly behind him and the club is fully backing him.

There isn’t a single Arsenal team post 2008 that fought for the title the way Arteta’s team is.

That depends on the circumstances as I explained in post #4,469 in response to MKZ.

I can also name you each and every moment that I have suffered over the years as an Arsenal fan and how painful those moments were.

I have waited for years and years to see Arsenal where they are today.


Don’t get me wrong. I would absolutely love to win the UCL because it elevates your legacy. Not winning the UCL with the 2000-2005 Arsenal team has hurt Wenger’s legacy and it is the main reason why he’s ranked below SAF, Pep and Mourinho, but my point is that if you offer me a PL or a UCL, I would go for the PL any day.

I would much rather win the PL and get knocked out in the UCL groups than to win the UCL and finish 4th in the league without challenging for the title.

Winning the league means you are clearly the best team in your league and you have proved that over the course of the season, but you can win the UCL without being the team in your league and therefore by extension, without being the best team in Europe.

For example, Chelsea made a mockery of the UCL in 2012 and exposed the flawed nature of the format when they won the UCL while finishing 6th in its own league and 25 pts behind the champions.

Similarly, it is a joke to see BVB play in the UCL final when they are not even amongst the top 4 teams in its own league right now.

Success in UCL, or any cup competition, is a combination of favorable draw, good fortune and of course having a knockout mentality, but when it comes to winning or competing in the league, there is no question of favorable draws and good fortune because it is a true test of how good or bad a team is.

Ask Real Madrid , they will take European Cup over La Liga every year . The European cup has and will always be the most prestigious club trophy in the world .

You allude to being easier to win over PL but City have won 6/7 PL but only one CL . BVB had no chance against BL this season but qualified for CL . They are a top who id back to beat Arsenal over two legs . And don’t forget Leicester won the PL but were woeful in CL next season.

It’s clear you’re an Arteta fan & will use all sorts of half baked arguments to defend his lack of success. No player is or manager is bigger than the club .

 

[shaz619]

Arteta taking his anger out on Mamoon after finishing 2nd:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1793464265393017036

Not sure though, Mamoo maybe enjoying this….

 

[Mamoon]

Both you and MK7Z asked me if I would give credit if Arteta won title.

My response on both occasions, was yes I'd give him credit. Just like I would any manager winning a title. That's consistency, no hiding, no running off to cricket forum like you dId, no lying etc..

Your “credit” would mean absolutely nothing because you have no faith in Arteta and you don’t think he will win the league.

It is not a question of you sitting on the fence. You are very clear in your criticism and in your conviction that Arteta is incapable of winning the league.

Therefore, when he wins the league, you will have no right to celebrate and instead, you should be sorry and apologetic for your lack of faith.

 

[Amjid Javed]

The club has now gone 4 seasons without a trophy its embarrassing to say the least. Seaaon after season I demand Arsenal act and show ambition and results of a big club.

Rather than your fake bhangra and fireworks over mediocrity and failure.

 

[The_KING]

It's funny that the same Arsenal fans who used to criticize Wenger for finishing every season inside the top 4 but never winning the league are now some of Arteta's biggest cheerleaders. And Wenger used to win occasional FA Cups. This Arteta guy has won one Covid FA cup which was with Wenger and Emery's team. With his own team that he has assembled over the last four years, on which he has spend like 700 million, he has won nothing. This Arteta guy is the Spanish Brendan Rogers. Getting close to the finish line, but not quite good enough to cross it.

 

[Mamoon]

It's funny that the same Arsenal fans who used to criticize Wenger for finishing every season inside the top 4 but never winning the league are now some of Arteta's biggest cheerleaders. And Wenger used to win occasional FA Cups. This Arteta guy has won one Covid FA cup which was with Wenger and Emery's team. With his own team that he has assembled over the last four years, on which he has spend like 700 million, he has won nothing. This Arteta guy is the Spanish Brendan Rogers. Getting close to the finish line, but not quite good enough to cross it.

You answered your own question.

Finishing in the top 4 means nothing for a club like Arsenal because you have to fight for the Premier League. This applies to the likes of United, Chelsea, Liverpool and City as well. If you are a manager of one of these clubs, you cannot mask your failures in the league by picking up domestic cups.

Arsenal in the last 10 years of Wenger had compromised its standards to the point where Arsenal showed no desire to fight for the Premier League and Arsene Wenger was clearly not capable of assembling a team that could compete to win the Premier League. This is why post 2008, Arsenal never probably challenged for the title the way they have this and the previous season.

This is why in spite of winning 3 FA Cups in his last 4 years, Arsenal fans wanted him out.

Arteta has done what neither Wenger (in his last 10 years) and Emery could do --- assemble a squad that could mount a serious challenge for the title and go toe to toe with the best team in the country.

Absolutely no one cares about Arteta's COVID FA Cup because he is rated, respected and regarded by Arsenal fans and by non- Arsenal fans and pundits who understand football for assembling a squad that is on the brink of winning the Premier League and there is no doubt that he will get there.

If he could take Arsenal to where they are now from where Wenger and Emery left Arsenal, he will also take Arsenal from this position to eventual champions. It is funny how you talk about Wenger's and Emery's team but he finished 8th because of the rubbish that they left behind and he had to rebuild the squad, the culture of the club and the mentality to be where they are today.

There is a difference of night and day between Arsenal of December 2019 and Arsenal of May 2024. It is a completely different club and this is all down to Arteta.

As far as spending money is concerned, Arteta has spend less money than United and Chelsea in the same period and his Arsenal team is far ahead of both now simply because United have not had a manager as good as him in this period and neither have Chelsea except Tuchel who should not have been sacked.

Here is a fun fact if the above wasn't enough. Pep Guardiola has spent more money than Arteta ever since Arteta because Arsenal manager even though City already had a world class team at the time. In spite of this, Arteta has closed the gap dramatically with City which shows his brilliance as a manager.

 

[Mamoon]

The club has now gone 4 seasons without a trophy its embarrassing to say the least. Seaaon after season I demand Arsenal act and show ambition and results of a big club.

Rather than your fake bhangra and fireworks over mediocrity and failure.

Within Arsenal fans, they are two types of critics that don't rate Arteta.

Exhibit A:
Those who claim that they will only rate Arteta if he wins the Premier League or the UCL.

Exhibit B:
Those who claim that Arteta is a clueless fraud who will never win anything major for Arsenal and should be replaced by a manager with a winning mentality.

You clearly fall in Exhibit B category. Therefore, when Arsenal win the Premier League with Arteta, you should be apologetic of your criticism and vitriol instead of celebrating with other Arsenal fans.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Exhibit C: Those who worship an individual rather than the football club. They choose to degrade the domestic trophies. classify a good run in Europe (getting to 1/4 finals) as an achievement of greatness. They classify the Premier league as overrated, but then say that competing for it every season is all thar matters. They choose to make up their own criteria for so called success and only apply it where it suits their agenda. They choose to celebrate failure by letting of fire works, throwing rotten eggs and tomatoes.

 

[Amjid Javed]

All big clubs judge their managers on trophies won

All big clubs want their managers replacing if they fall short.

That's what big clubs do.

Sadly this obsession the losers in fan base have of worshipping the manager like the messiah is why the club will keep failing.

You can swap Artetas name with any other and the below would apply

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The club has now gone 4 seasons without a trophy its embarrassing to say the least. Seaaon after season I demand Arsenal act and show ambition and results of a big club.

Rather than your fake bhangra and fireworks over mediocrity and failure.

Obviously winning the league would be ideal and I completely understand the point about trophies. The fans need something to celebrate and the aim of the game is to win cups.

However out of interest do you think take Liverpool's league cup + season or United season + FA cup is a better result than Arsenals season?

 

[Amjid Javed]

It's funny that the same Arsenal fans who used to criticize Wenger for finishing every season inside the top 4 but never winning the league are now some of Arteta's biggest cheerleaders. And Wenger used to win occasional FA Cups. This Arteta guy has won one Covid FA cup which was with Wenger and Emery's team. With his own team that he has assembled over the last four years, on which he has spend like 700 million, he has won nothing. This Arteta guy is the Spanish Brendan Rogers. Getting close to the finish line, but not quite good enough to cross it.

Most of fan base have no interest in win trophies or making the club accountable for failure. Brainwashed Into this phase 1,2,3,4,5 nonsense and using it as a yardstick to hide behind when club is failing and falling short. New excuses will be rolled out next season as well.

Top 4 or finishing 2 is no different to kronkes as they only care about CL money. A trophy that Arsenal ain't going to win under a manager whose European performances have been shameful and shambolic whether it be europa or CL.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Obviously winning the league would be ideal and I completely understand the point about trophies. The fans need something to celebrate and the aim of the game is to win cups.

However out of interest do you think take Liverpool's league cup + season or United season + FA cup is a better result than Arsenals season?

Arsenal are 4.5 seasons into a so called "project" as the fan base like to gas it up. Zero cup finals in last 4 seasons and zero trophies is unexpectable.

Liverpool in Feb had a chance of 4 trophies. They ended up with 1 and was a dumb squib. Is an underwhelming return for their season.

United were a shambles in league all season. The FA Cup win gives their fans something to remember even more so with them beating City. This was their 2nd season under Ten Haag and their league performances shouldn't have been so bad.

I dont think any of the 3 clubs have had a good season. But after an average season for Liverpool and united they have silverware.

Arsenal for all progress have nothing to show for it

 

[shaz619]

Will the upcoming season be Arteta’s 4th season in charge ? Klopp won the Champions League in his 3rd season, Arteta really ought to have won something major by now given the time in position.

 

[IMMY69]

Will the upcoming season be Arteta’s 4th season in charge ? Klopp won the Champions League in his 3rd season, Arteta really ought to have won something major by now given the time in position.

I'll take 4.5 years of strife if it leads to 5-6 years of dominance...
Of course there has to be progress seen during the 4.5 years and I don't think anyone can deny that we've seen a vast amount of progress

 

[Amjid Javed]

Will the upcoming season be Arteta’s 4th season in charge ? Klopp won the Champions League in his 3rd season, Arteta really ought to have won something major by now given the time in position.

Will be 5th up and coming season, to try and justify the failure you have some Arsenal fans making comparisons to klopp and even Fergie as some sort of excuses at the failures over last 4 seasons.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Will the upcoming season be Arteta’s 4th season in charge ? Klopp won the Champions League in his 3rd season, Arteta really ought to have won something major by now given the time in position.

This will be his 5th season , although started in dec in his first . He really needs to start winning trophies . To win trophies is a sign a team can get over the line . His fans rubbish domestic trophies but Arteta tried to win them but came up short .

Some believe he is on the brink of wining the title . This is weak understanding of football . He could improve the squad & be 2nd favourites again , perhaps winning it… However Arsenal have a good first xi but an average squad , a few injuries & top four could be tough next season . The problem is Arteta spent so much , he won’t get more than £100m to spend , unless he sells some players but those won’t go for much .

 

[KingKhanWC]

Will be 5th up and coming season, to try and justify the failure you have some Arsenal fans making comparisons to klopp and even Fergie as some sort of excuses at the failures over last 4 seasons.

I’ve just read an Arsenal fan saying Ten Haag has won less as Arteta also has 2x community shields

 

[Amjid Javed]

I’ve just read an Arsenal fan saying Ten Haag has won less as Arteta also has 2x community shields

Community Shield is just a glorified pre-season friendly to start season. You know when fans are clutching at straws when they start including these in their count. You can play in charity shield after winning nothing the previous season.

 

[Amjid Javed]

This will be his 5th season , although started in dec in his first . He really needs to start winning trophies . To win trophies is a sign a team can get over the line . His fans rubbish domestic trophies but Arteta tried to win them but came up short .

Some believe he is on the brink of wining the title . This is weak understanding of football . He could improve the squad & be 2nd favourites again , perhaps winning it… However Arsenal have a good first xi but an average squad , a few injuries & top four could be tough next season . The problem is Arteta spent so much , he won’t get more than £100m to spend , unless he sells some players but those won’t go for much .

No other big club with ambition or standards would persist with a manager after 4 seasons without a trophy. You see teams like Real and Barca sacking managers even after winning trophies.

For those crying about managers needing time. 4.5 seasons is enough time to deliver.

Excuses rolled out - we can't win league coz city are cheats

We can't win CL because of lack of experience

FA cup and league Cup don't matter.

This is the dumb logic you get.

 

[KingKhanWC]

No other big club with ambition or standards would persist with a manager after 4 seasons without a trophy. You see teams like Real and Barca sacking managers even after winning trophies.

For those crying about managers needing time. 4.5 seasons is enough time to deliver.

Excuses rolled out - we can't win league coz city are cheats

We can't win CL because of lack of experience

FA cup and league Cup don't matter.

This is the dumb logic you get.

Are you happy with the current squad? As the bench looks pretty average .

How much will he spend in the summer & where ?

To say he is on the brink of winning the title before the new season has kicked off , seems premature.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Are you happy with the current squad? As the bench looks pretty average .

How much will he spend in the summer & where ?

To say he is on the brink of winning the title before the new season has kicked off , seems premature.

Current squad still has huge holes in it which haven't been addressed.

Arsenal needed a striker, number 8 and a back up winger to saka. Those signing are still needed.

Whilst Raya is better than Ramsdale, he's not a elite or world class keeper.

Defence - if Timber has no issues with injuries that should sort the issues at LB.

Arsenal need a decent back up CB.

Midfield - Rice is quality. Elneny is gone, partey likely to be sold so Arsenal need a marquee midfield signing. Whether that's De Jong or someone else, they need to be a prove ready now player. Jorginho as back up.

Attacking midfield a number 8 is needed. Guiameres is best player in that position. Won't be cheap, also with Newcastle not in Europe they will need to sell one star player. Arsenal should have paid the 40M for him a few seasons ago. Stupidly chose not to.

Attack wise - Arsenal need a elite number 9 and a difference maker. Reason Arsenal didn't win anything was lack of clinical player in key cup and title run in games.

Arsenal also linked to rashford who if the price tag wasn't to high would be a good signing. Is better than Martinelli as well. Jesus should be used as right wing back up to saka. Most of Arsenal transfer budget should go on a elite striker.

With 170M for finishing 2nd and 80M from CL, plus money from sales (which Edu is trash at). Arsenal should be looking at 200M plus to spend.

Oh plus the Kronkes can put 90M in for transfers over a 3 year period. (Not that this will ever happen. Even though 2 deluded fan boys thing they do)

Arsenal have plenty of money for transfers, issue is Edu on sales and kronkes not doing their jobs as mentioned above.

We will see how many holes are filled in summer or if usually in different transfer window occurs again.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Current squad still has huge holes in it which haven't been addressed.

Arsenal needed a striker, number 8 and a back up winger to saka. Those signing are still needed.

Whilst Raya is better than Ramsdale, he's not a elite or world class keeper.

Defence - if Timber has no issues with injuries that should sort the issues at LB.

Arsenal need a decent back up CB.

Midfield - Rice is quality. Elneny is gone, partey likely to be sold so Arsenal need a marquee midfield signing. Whether that's De Jong or someone else, they need to be a prove ready now player. Jorginho as back up.

Attacking midfield a number 8 is needed. Guiameres is best player in that position. Won't be cheap, also with Newcastle not in Europe they will need to sell one star player. Arsenal should have paid the 40M for him a few seasons ago. Stupidly chose not to.

Attack wise - Arsenal need a elite number 9 and a difference maker. Reason Arsenal didn't win anything was lack of clinical player in key cup and title run in games.

Arsenal also linked to rashford who if the price tag wasn't to high would be a good signing. Is better than Martinelli as well. Jesus should be used as right wing back up to saka. Most of Arsenal transfer budget should go on a elite striker.

With 170M for finishing 2nd and 80M from CL, plus money from sales (which Edu is trash at). Arsenal should be looking at 200M plus to spend.

Oh plus the Kronkes can put 90M in for transfers over a 3 year period. (Not that this will ever happen. Even though 2 deluded fan boys thing they do)

Arsenal have plenty of money for transfers, issue is Edu on sales and kronkes not doing their jobs as mentioned above.

We will see how many holes are filled in summer or if usually in different transfer window occurs again.

Thanks for the analysis.

I think this summer will be huge for Arsenal . Get a 20 per season league striker , esp if Arteta has already told his players 100 points Is needed . I don’t think any team inc City need 100 but possible

 

[Amjid Javed]

Thanks for the analysis.

I think this summer will be huge for Arsenal . Get a 20 per season league striker , esp if Arteta has already told his players 100 points Is needed . I don’t think any team inc City need 100 but possible

90 points mark seems like the mark you need to win the league now. Don't forget City only lost 3 games in the league, Arsenal lost 5. Which is to many to lose in title.

On a side note fenebache lost 1 game in turkish league got 99 points and came 2nd. So sometimes some higher points totals aren't enough in a title race.

You just got to take your chance when you get it. In case of Arsenal and liverpool in PL they didn't in season just gone.

 

[shaz619]

Will be 5th up and coming season, to try and justify the failure you have some Arsenal fans making comparisons to klopp and even Fergie as some sort of excuses at the failures over last 4 seasons.

Klopp still delivered by the third season, and Fergie it was a different time and different budgets, plus it was a set up which kept him on the edge of being booted out. Arteta has people worshipping his smelly undies so his job is not in jeopardy.

 

[shaz619]

This will be his 5th season , although started in dec in his first . He really needs to start winning trophies . To win trophies is a sign a team can get over the line . His fans rubbish domestic trophies but Arteta tried to win them but came up short .

Some believe he is on the brink of wining the title . This is weak understanding of football . He could improve the squad & be 2nd favourites again , perhaps winning it… However Arsenal have a good first xi but an average squad , a few injuries & top four could be tough next season . The problem is Arteta spent so much , he won’t get more than £100m to spend , unless he sells some players but those won’t go for much .

The spell he has on the owners is remarkable, pushed to the top with not a lot behind him and given a free ride, past experience folk shouldn’t really point out. Imagine I got hired as the CEO of a top company with little experience behind me, does that mean I can get away with not delivering results? maybe there would be some leniency for 12-18 months, however the expectation generally would be to hit the ground running. One way you could argue it is refreshing a manager getting such a free ride and all the backing, but you can’t protect him under that and call him a GOAT manager when he hasn’t achieved anything yet, you can say he is the GOAT of being able to hold to his job for so long though

 

[MK7Z]

What's folks opinion on Kompany joining Bayern?

Especially those who are of the belief Arteta would not be hired by a big club with ambition.

Kompany doesn't have much on his CV either. Could argue less than Arteta.

Doesn't get much bigger than Bayern.

 

[Technics 1210]

Progression is subjective.

Arteta going from 8th to 2nd in about 4 years amidst top teams regressing.

Emery taking Villa from relegation contenders to Champions League contenders.

Emery's progression has greater weight, but Arsenal under Arteta have simply caught up with regressing top teams after spending over £650M, hence their record against the top 6 this season was impressive (no losses).

Though once the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Man City up their game, Arsenal will continue to battle for top 4 and will never be able to repeat this season top 6 stats.

Remember, points are also relative, in gaming terms Arsenal have just levelled up - Arsenal can achieve 80, 90, 100 points, all meaningless when other teams are in the same point brackets.

 

[IMMY69]

Progression is subjective.

Arteta going from 8th to 2nd in about 4 years amidst top teams regressing.

Emery taking Villa from relegation contenders to Champions League contenders.

Emery's progression has greater weight, but Arsenal under Arteta have simply caught up with regressing top teams after spending over £650M, hence their record against the top 6 this season was impressive (no losses).

Though once the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Man City up their game, Arsenal will continue to battle for top 4 and will never be able to repeat this season top 6 stats.

Remember, points are also relative, in gaming terms Arsenal have just levelled up - Arsenal can achieve 80, 90, 100 points, all meaningless when other teams are in the same point brackets.

I'm hoping your predictions are as off as our resident Pakistani Hating troll

 

[MK7Z]

Progression is subjective.

Arteta going from 8th to 2nd in about 4 years amidst top teams regressing.

Emery taking Villa from relegation contenders to Champions League contenders.

Emery's progression has greater weight, but Arsenal under Arteta have simply caught up with regressing top teams after spending over £650M, hence their record against the top 6 this season was impressive (no losses).

Though once the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Man City up their game, Arsenal will continue to battle for top 4 and will never be able to repeat this season top 6 stats.

Remember, points are also relative, in gaming terms Arsenal have just levelled up - Arsenal can achieve 80, 90, 100 points, all meaningless when other teams are in the same point brackets.

So its fair to expect Villa to improve on this season else it shall be deemed regression?

Say it then... Villa must finish higher than this season else it's going backwards.

Actually better still. Aston Villa must challenge for the title next season as they achieved champions league this season and that's the next step?

 

[Amjid Javed]

What's folks opinion on Kompany joining Bayern?

Especially those who are of the belief Arteta would not be hired by a big club with ambition.

Kompany doesn't have much on his CV either. Could argue less than Arteta.

Doesn't get much bigger than Bayern.

Horrendous decision, Bayern got rejected by all the top options they wanted and then went for a shocking choice. He will be sacked with 12 months.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

What's folks opinion on Kompany joining Bayern?

Especially those who are of the belief Arteta would not be hired by a big club with ambition.

Kompany doesn't have much on his CV either. Could argue less than Arteta.

Doesn't get much bigger than Bayern.

It's the biggest example of failing upwards that ive seen in football!

 

[Technics 1210]

Staying in the top 4 without winning the title is neither progression nor regression, its stagnation! This is why the second time round, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th do not mean thing in terms of progression.

For Arteta's Arsenal, when in top 4, progression would be to win the title, and/or Champions League. Nothing else.

 

[MK7Z]

Staying in the top 4 without winning the title is neither progression nor regression, its stagnation! This is why the second time round, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th do not mean thing in terms of progression.

For Arteta's Arsenal, when in top 4, progression would be to win the title, and/or Champions League. Nothing else.

Not really. Mounting a serious title challenge would be the natural next step for a team right? Or has the goal been achieved by making the Champions League?

I am not trolling I am being genuine. Villa are a good team and have a good manager. Surely they need to take the next step right or they are satisfied in being the 1st 2nd or 3rd loser? or are those points only made when its Arsenal?

What is their target for next season? Simple enough question. Are you saying the aim is to stagnate?

 

[Technics 1210]

Not really. Mounting a serious title challenge would be the natural next step for a team right? Or has the goal been achieved by making the Champions League?

I am not trolling I am being genuine. Villa are a good team and have a good manager. Surely they need to take the next step right or they are satisfied in being the 1st 2nd or 3rd loser? or are those points only made when its Arsenal?

What is their target for next season? Simple enough question. Are you saying the aim is to stagnate?

Mounting a title challenge is meaningless if the challenge has failed. Hence the runners-up are considered the first losers.

Villa's next target is the title, but if they end up 2nd, 3rd, or 4th, then there is no progression, just stagnation in the top 4.

 

[MK7Z]

Mounting a title challenge is meaningless if the challenge has failed. Hence the runners-up are considered the first losers.

Villa's next target is the title, but if they end up 2nd, 3rd, or 4th, then there is no progression, just stagnation in the top 4.

Weird logic.

I agree if it comes to nothing then the title charge is pointless however taking to the last GW with a chance of lifting the title would be a big improvement than competing with Spurs for 4th again.

 

[MK7Z]

Other transfer stories. Zubemendi seems to have died down and looks like won't happen.

Sesko stories hotting up. One to keep an eye on.

Bruno G interest is real I believe but from what I've read the release clause is only for June. So whoever wants him will have to move fast.

I like him as a player. Hate him as an opposition as always ready for a scrap but that's not a bad thing. Great passer of the ball.

Partey Odegaard and Rice is a fantastic midfield but seems Partey is on his way.

Bruno G Rice and odegard is also mouthwatering.

 

[Mamoon]

Progression is subjective.

Arteta going from 8th to 2nd in about 4 years amidst top teams regressing.

Emery taking Villa from relegation contenders to Champions League contenders.

Emery's progression has greater weight, but Arsenal under Arteta have simply caught up with regressing top teams after spending over £650M, hence their record against the top 6 this season was impressive (no losses).

Though once the likes of Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Man City up their game, Arsenal will continue to battle for top 4 and will never be able to repeat this season top 6 stats.

Remember, points are also relative, in gaming terms Arsenal have just levelled up - Arsenal can achieve 80, 90, 100 points, all meaningless when other teams are in the same point brackets.

Arsenal under Arteta have spent less money than Chelsea, United and even City even though, City already had a champion team when Arteta became Arsenal manager.

Chelsea and United have regressed in spite of spending more money simply because they haven’t had a manager as good as Arteta in this period.

The only exception was Tuchel who is really good as well and he shouldn’t have been sacked. If he was still at Chelsea they would probably be title contenders now.

Arteta is clearly better than Ole, Ragnick, Hag, Lampard, Potter and Pochettino. Unlike them, he has a clear idea of how to invest in the squad to improve the team and how to get the best out of the players.

Arteta is the difference between Arsenal’s progression and Chelsea and United’s regression.

As far as Liverpool is concern, Klopp has made one mistake after the other in the transfer market in the last 3 years. They keep buying players that don’t fit in.

Arne Slot needs to do a better job than Klopp in the market otherwise Liverpool will keep falling behind.

As far as Emery is concerned, his career is going in the opposite direction. A top manager would want to go from Villa to Arsenal/PSG and not step down in the opposite direction.

Emery cannot stake a claim as a world class manager if he is spending his prime years at a club that doesn’t have the ambition and resources to fight for the title.

The pressure and expectations of managing Villa is not comparable to managing PSG or Arsenal.

At PSG or Arsenal, you are expected to compete for the league. At Aston Villa, the fans and owners are happy as long as you finish anywhere between 4th and 10th.

At Villa, Emery will never experience the pressure of fighting for the league or the UCL, where his team will be the whipping boys next season.

He was appointed by PSG to help them win the UCL and he bottled a 4-0 lead over Barcelona and even conceded the league to Monaco.

He was appointed by Arsenal to rebuild the team in the post Wenger era and take the team where Arteta has and he clearly didn’t have the chops for it.

Emery has extended his contract at Villa at a time where so many powerful, big clubs are looking for new managers - Barcelona, Liverpool, United, Chelsea, Bayern, Juventus etc.

Those clubs don’t want Emery and neither are Emery and his representatives interested in advertising him to those clubs which is a clear indication that Emery and his entourage are aware of the fact that he doesn’t belong in the big league and he doesn’t have what it takes to manage a big club after his torrid experience with PSG and Arsenal.

Not every manager is cut for the big jobs and it seems like Emery is one of those managers. Clubs like Sevilla, Villarreal, Valencia, Aston Villa etc. is his comfort zone.

 

[Mamoon]

What's folks opinion on Kompany joining Bayern?

Especially those who are of the belief Arteta would not be hired by a big club with ambition.

Kompany doesn't have much on his CV either. Could argue less than Arteta.

Doesn't get much bigger than Bayern.

If Arteta quits Arsenal today, he will have no shortage of suitors. He is rated very very highly as a young manager with immense potential and the criticism of 0% ball knowledge fans and haters do not matter.

Kompany to Bayern is very interesting. He has had very good football education and he was also a smart player and a leader.

He has had a poor coaching career so far but it is possible that his coaching methods and philosophy are more suited to players who are at a higher level than what he’s had to work with so far.

Not every manager is cut for the big clubs but not every manager is cut for the small clubs either. Would Pep or Arteta survived relegation with Sheffield? Probably not.

 

[Amjid Javed]

The irony of Arteta have % trophies in last 4 seasons and the comedian running his fan club, telling others they have % ball knowledge.

Mediocrity bhangra merchant in full flow.

 

[MK7Z]

@Amjid Javed i replied to your Zinchenko post but not sure where it's gone.


I basically said I am happier than you if he was to leave. I'd pay for his flight

 

[Amjid Javed]

@Amjid Javed i replied to your Zinchenko post but not sure where it's gone.


I basically said I am happier than you if he was to leave. I'd pay for his flight

I was wondering where it went as well.

Good riddance to him the following players should all be got rid of in summer

Zinchenko
Nelson
Nketiah
Vieira
Elneny
Cedric
Tavares
Tierney (it's a shame but he deserves better)
Ramsdale

Reluctant sales
ESR
Partey

Can't be any excuses now for nothing bring In top quality. No excuses for poor cup or European performances from the club.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Other transfer stories. Zubemendi seems to have died down and looks like won't happen.

Sesko stories hotting up. One to keep an eye on.

Bruno G interest is real I believe but from what I've read the release clause is only for June. So whoever wants him will have to move fast.

I like him as a player. Hate him as an opposition as always ready for a scrap but that's not a bad thing. Great passer of the ball.

Partey Odegaard and Rice is a fantastic midfield but seems Partey is on his way.

Bruno G Rice and odegard is also mouthwatering.

We definitely need to high quality midfielders this summer espcially with Elneny going and Partey likely to be sold.

I think Zubebmendi would be a good signing, but he may take a season or so to settle in. With Barca having finance issues again, I think Arsenal should look at De Jong instead.

As far as Bruno G, goes like you say he won't come cheap. Arsenal should have signed him two years ago when he was valued at 40M. Huge mistake at time not to buy him.

Sesko for the price isn't to bad, most strikers in PL will cost a lot more. Arsenal do need a striker who can make a difference.

If you breakdown where Arsenal seasons fell short last year, games lost, drawn etc.. it as the substandard tinkering in games using players who aren't good enough to play midfield that costs us. Havertz in midfield, trossard in midfield vs west ham etc..

Arsenal have to be a powerful midfield even when rotating. A few shithouse or dark arts players wouldn't go a miss in the squad.

 

[Amjid Javed]

An ex Arsenal player who tells it like it is.

Emmanuel Petit on Arsenal’s near-miss with the PL title: “This Arsenal team are good losers but I’d rather they were good winners […] even though Arsenal have had a great season, I’m sorry, but in 10 years’ time no one will remember them.”​

 

[Mamoon]

An ex Arsenal player who tells it like it is.

Emmanuel Petit on Arsenal’s near-miss with the PL title: “This Arsenal team are good losers but I’d rather they were good winners […] even though Arsenal have had a great season, I’m sorry, but in 10 years’ time no one will remember them.”​

Petit won two league titles in his entire career that spanned almost two decades. He knows a thing or two about league failure.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Even an Arsenal legend is calling them bottlers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796832379312418915

 

[Mamoon]

Even an Arsenal legend is calling them bottlers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796832379312418915

Firstly, he didn’t call Arsenal bottlers.

Secondly, he is not an Arsenal legend. You can’t be a legend of a club if you only spend 3 years.

Yes he was part of the double winning team, but he didn’t stay long enough to achieve legend status.

He threw his career away by leaving for Barcelona where he flopped big time and never got his career back on track.

 

[MK7Z]

Even an Arsenal legend is calling them bottlers

https://twitter.com/x/status/1796832379312418915

Define bottlers please. Last season yes

This season only 1 team bottled and that was Liverpool

Also Arsenal Legend?????

 

[Amjid Javed]

If Napoli want ESR and tomiyassu as part of oshimen deal, then send them both to Napoli

 

[MK7Z]

I was thinking about our defensive options outside Saliba and Gabriel.

White, Kiwior, Timber, Tomiyasu. All of these can actually and be competent at CB. Kiwior is the real drop off and Tomiyasu has his injury issues. I would like a RCB though and LB but i think they'd be down my list behind midfielder RW and forward.