Arsenal FC | 2023/24 Season

[Mamoon]

Arsenal won’t sign Osimhen or any other expensive ST. Havertz will remain the starting CF next season.

Sesko deal is very close to happening and he will be the perfect addition to the attack and a huge upgrade on Eddie and Jesus.

The next big money signing should be a LW. Martinelli is trash and Trossard needs better competition.

 

[MK7Z]

Arsenal won’t sign Osimhen or any other expensive ST. Havertz will remain the starting CF next season.

Sesko deal is very close to happening and he will be the perfect addition to the attack and a huge upgrade on Eddie and Jesus.

The next big money signing should be a LW. Martinelli is trash and Trossard needs better competition.

I would say RW. Saka needs backup

 

[Mamoon]

I would say RW. Saka needs backup

Backup to Saka might be Martinelli’s new role next season. Him playing RW vs Everton might be the start of something.

He is not going to get ahead of Trossard again who is clearly a far superior footballer, and if he can do a job on the RW to give Saka a breather, he would save the club some money.

 

[MK7Z]

Backup to Saka might be Martinelli’s new role next season. Him playing RW vs Everton might be the start of something.

He is not going to get ahead of Trossard again who is clearly a far superior footballer, and if he can do a job on the RW to give Saka a breather, he would save the club some money.

If you believe he is trash then he should not be the back up. We need a quality backup who can keep Saka on his toes

 

[Mamoon]

If you believe he is trash then he should not be the back up. We need a quality backup who can keep Saka on his toes

Martinelli will not be sold.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal won’t sign Osimhen or any other expensive ST. Havertz will remain the starting CF next season.

Sesko deal is very close to happening and he will be the perfect addition to the attack and a huge upgrade on Eddie and Jesus.

The next big money signing should be a LW. Martinelli is trash and Trossard needs better competition.

Arsenal will sign a striker .

Watkins is available.

If Arsenal signed one last season, and showed a bit more bottle away to city , maybe you wouldn’t have shed tears & now your team could be champions of England

 

[Mamoon]

Arsenal will sign a striker .

Watkins is available.

If Arsenal signed one last season, and showed a bit more bottle away to city , maybe you wouldn’t have shed tears & now your team could be champions of England

Arsenal will sign a striker but not an expensive one because whoever Arsenal will sign will not be walking into the playing XI because Havertz will be playing CF.

This is why Arsenal are in talks with Sesko, who is a very talented young striker but not established enough to walk into the playing XI.

Watkins is not an option because Havertz will not be replaced this summer and Watkins won’t leave Aston Villa for Arsenal’s bench.

He can be a very good signing for Liverpool though. He is much better than the retarded Uruguayan that Klopp wasted £85m on.

Arsenal showed more bottle at City last season than both City & Liverpool showed at the Emirates.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arsenal will sign a striker .

Watkins is available.

If Arsenal signed one last season, and showed a bit more bottle away to city , maybe you wouldn’t have shed tears & now your team could be champions of England

Arsenal went out of the FA Cup to Liverpool, because a certain striker missed numerous sitters in that game

Same player who was moved back into midfield for villa game which cost Arsenal the title

Same player who played as a striker vs Bayern, was like a statue all game (I'm not talking about the statue in someone garden)

Now all of a sudden according to the bhangra dancers in fan base Arsenal already have their striker thats going to help them win trophies.

Arsenal ain't winning the CL next season, the domestic cups will go in the bin as usual. Usual not winning league is a sign of greatness will be cheered by the fans enjoying failure.

Real Madrid have strengthened their team, Man city will do same with players who make the difference. This is why these sides dominate the current game.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal will sign a striker but not an expensive one because whoever Arsenal will sign will not be walking into the playing XI because Havertz will be playing CF.

This is why Arsenal are in talks with Sesko, who is a very talented young striker but not established enough to walk into the playing XI.

Watkins is not an option because Havertz will not be replaced this summer and Watkins won’t leave Aston Villa for Arsenal’s bench.

He can be a very good signing for Liverpool though. He is much better than the Arsenal will sign a striker but not an expensive one because whoever Arsenal will sign will not be walking into the playing XI because Havertz will be playing CF.

This is why Arsenal are in talks with Sesko, who is a very talented young striker but not established enough to walk into the playing XI.

Watkins is not an option because Havertz will not be replaced this summer and Watkins won’t leave Aston Villa for Arsenal’s bench.

He can be a very good signing for Liverpool though. He is much better than the retarded Uruguayan that Klopp wasted £85m on.

Arsenal showed more bottle at City last season than both City & Liverpool showed at the Emirates.

Nunez scored more goals than Havertz last season & will become a 20 goal a season striker from next season .

Not sure if you were listening to games but he was ineffective for much of the season. Sure he can improve but it’s no bagman . You can play him with another striker if required & Arteta often puts him in midfield lol

 

[KingKhanWC]

Arsenal went out of the FA Cup to Liverpool, because a certain striker missed numerous sitters in that game

Same player who was moved back into midfield for villa game which cost Arsenal the title

Same player who played as a striker vs Bayern, was like a statue all game (I'm not talking about the statue in someone garden)

Now all of a sudden according to the bhangra dancers in fan base Arsenal already have their striker thats going to help them win trophies.

Arsenal ain't winning the CL next season, the domestic cups will go in the bin as usual. Usual not winning league is a sign of greatness will be cheered by the fans enjoying failure.

Real Madrid have strengthened their team, Man city will do same with players who make the difference. This is why these sides dominate the current game.

You had it spot on from day 1 , this isn’t champions mentality, happy with competing .

Imo Arsenal need 4/5 players this summer to strengthen the squad , get rid of avg players like Zinchenko, Eddie etc & for sure bring in an elite striker , proven with goals .

Arteta said he needs 100 points , it ain’t happening with Havertz as the main striker .

 

[Amjid Javed]

You had it spot on from day 1 , this isn’t champions mentality, happy with competing .

Imo Arsenal need 4/5 players this summer to strengthen the squad , get rid of avg players like Zinchenko, Eddie etc & for sure bring in an elite striker , proven with goals .

Arteta said he needs 100 points , it ain’t happening with Havertz as the main striker .

This club is supposedly now in phase 5 or 6 of the so called project it started.

What's the whole purpose at a big club for building a squad? It's to try and dominate the era you are in. Win multiple titles, domestic cups and win in Europe.

Look at Real Madrid and the current squad they are building, that's a team looking to dominate la liga and in Europe.

City do exactly the same, they get rid of players that don't want to be there, or they quickly rectify bad signings they have made.

You look at klopp at Liverpool, at one point you made those elite signings van dyks, Allison's to make a difference. Got to a point where you had a better team then city. Then your owners gave up on wanting to dominate for long time in PL and Europe.

Apart from Rice signing, what high class players are Arsenal looking to sign? Looking at a cheap young striker sums this club up. How Arsenal going to dominate the PL or do well in Europe when targeting yet another work in progress.

Oh wait the excuses are he's an upgrade on nketitah and Jesus

He's an upgrade on ESR and Vieira etc..

This is this fan base for you, an upgrade on average or under used players is supposedly going to bridge the gap against sides sweeping up all the trophies every season.

Then their is the "oh peps leaving soon" so we will stuff then. On the presumption that man city have no succession plan when he goes and all of sudden all their players won't be good.

If Arsenal had real ambition to dominate they would go sign 2 if not 3 elite player this summer and go "we mean business" and we are aiming to win PL and CL.

But they won't as their is only desire to get CL money again this season. All this process nonsense is an excuse to hide behind failure.

The supposed "best young manager" (according to a certain bhangra merchant) would be sacked at clubs like Real, Barca etc. As they wouldn't tolerate failure. Also people thinking he's going to get the Man City job when Pep leaves are kidding themselves

 

[KingKhanWC]

This club is supposedly now in phase 5 or 6 of the so called project it started.

What's the whole purpose at a big club for building a squad? It's to try and dominate the era you are in. Win multiple titles, domestic cups and win in Europe.

Look at Real Madrid and the current squad they are building, that's a team looking to dominate la liga and in Europe.

City do exactly the same, they get rid of players that don't want to be there, or they quickly rectify bad signings they have made.

You look at klopp at Liverpool, at one point you made those elite signings van dyks, Allison's to make a difference. Got to a point where you had a better team then city. Then your owners gave up on wanting to dominate for long time in PL and Europe.

Apart from Rice signing, what high class players are Arsenal looking to sign? Looking at a cheap young striker sums this club up. How Arsenal going to dominate the PL or do well in Europe when targeting yet another work in progress.

Oh wait the excuses are he's an upgrade on nketitah and Jesus

He's an upgrade on ESR and Vieira etc..

This is this fan base for you, an upgrade on average or under used players is supposedly going to bridge the gap against sides sweeping up all the trophies every season.

Then their is the "oh peps leaving soon" so we will stuff then. On the presumption that man city have no succession plan when he goes and all of sudden all their players won't be good.

If Arsenal had real ambition to dominate they would go sign 2 if not 3 elite player this summer and go "we mean business" and we are aiming to win PL and CL.

But they won't as their is only desire to get CL money again this season. All this process nonsense is an excuse to hide behind failure.

The supposed "best young manager" (according to a certain bhangra merchant) would be sacked at clubs like Real, Barca etc. As they wouldn't tolerate failure. Also people thinking he's going to get the Man City job when Pep leaves are kidding themselves

Surely he wouldn’t go to City ? You cannot go to a club you competed with over 2-3 years for the title & came second .

Klopps mid all grew old in one season & with his style of play injuries are regular but he cleaned out & made a whole new mid . The engine connects after some time ,next season Slot has a great foundation. But you’re correct you have see ahead esp in squad depth as injuries get every club once every other year. If arsenals cb are injured , it’s over . Same goes for other areas but there’s no plan for this ?

If they have the money , spending is a must while you’re good enough to go close. After Pep City will go for the best manager again, whoever it is & I agree it won’t be Arteta .

 

[MK7Z]

Arsenal will sign a striker .

Watkins is available.

If Arsenal signed one last season, and showed a bit more bottle away to city , maybe you wouldn’t have shed tears & now your team could be champions of England

Only one team bottled it last season. But not sure you want to discuss that on the Liverpool thread.

 

[Mamoon]

Nunez scored more goals than Havertz last season & will become a 20 goal a season striker from next season .

Heard that last summer as well, but retarded Uruguayan will remain retarded. Klopp was clueless in the market since hitting the jackpot with Salah, Van Dijk, Alisson and Fabinho in 2017-2018. All his signings in the last 2-3 years have been poor.

Not sure if you were listening to games but he was ineffective for much of the season. Sure he can improve but it’s no bagman . You can play him with another striker if required & Arteta often puts him in midfield lol

Everyone knows that Havertz had a difficult start and it was expected. He was low on confidence and had a torrid time at Chelsea in the last 18 months. All I asked for was patience but clueless fans have no patience. They wrote him off before they gave him a chance and Havertz ended the season as one of Arsenal's strongest players and was a huge reason why Arsenal kept up the pace with City.

You had it spot on from day 1 , this isn’t champions mentality, happy with competing .

Imo Arsenal need 4/5 players this summer to strengthen the squad , get rid of avg players like Zinchenko, Eddie etc & for sure bring in an elite striker , proven with goals .

Arteta said he needs 100 points , it ain’t happening with Havertz as the main striker .

No, he was clueless from day 1. claimed that Arteta would get sacked in 2020-2021 because he doesn't have what it takes to fight for the title and here we are. Arteta has not won the league yet, but he has already done much more than what you thought he would so you should have the courage to admit that Arteta is a far better manager than you gave him credit for.

When Arteta wins the PL with this group and it is inevitable that he will, please be humble enough to acknowledge your ignorance and don't make further excuses.

Surely he wouldn’t go to City ? You cannot go to a club you competed with over 2-3 years for the title & came second .

Klopps mid all grew old in one season & with his style of play injuries are regular but he cleaned out & made a whole new mid . The engine connects after some time ,next season Slot has a great foundation. But you’re correct you have see ahead esp in squad depth as injuries get every club once every other year . If arsenals cb are injured , it’s over . Same goes for other areas but there’s no plan for this ?

If they have the money , spending is a must while you’re good enough to go close . After Pep City will go for the best manager again , whoever it is & I agree it won’t be Arteta .

City would love to bring Arteta back when Pep leaves because City is aware of how good he is and how much he is respected & admired within that club. Everyone at City knew Arteta would go onto be a top manager and the work that he has done at Arsenal has not surprised the club one bit.

However, Arteta has no reason to leave Arsenal for City. It is like thinking that Klopp would leave Liverpool for City. That will never ever happen. Arteta is Arsenal through and through, and he will never coach another PL team again. Yes he might go to Barcelona at some point in the future after winning multiple PLs with Arsenal, but he will be at Arsenal for a very long time because he is building something special.

As far as signing 2-3 big players this summer that @Amjid Javed demanded, you have to sign players that won't destroy what you already have and also improve the team. It is not an easy balance to strike. You don't fix what is not broken because you risk going to backwards. There are two areas in this team that can be immediately improved: LW and LCM and that is where most of the budget should go.

Arsenal were initially looking to sign a marquee ST this summer (Osimhen, Gyökeres, Isak etc.) but those plans have been scrapped now because Havertz has made the CF position his own and his unique skill-set and playing style as a false 9/target man has really made Arsenal a better side.

 

[Amjid Javed]

But but Arsenal can't sign star players because it will effect the dressing room

But but havertz is main striker now so you can't put him on the bench

This weak and pathetic mentality in the dressing room is why the club will keep failing to win trophies with current team. The so called "team spirit" and "certain players have to play all the time" is exactly why players get complacent. We heard this same rubbish that Jesus had to play all time before.

If there are better players out there to keep you on top you buy them. Same goes for havertz, a few good games and now all of sudden he's the striker that's going to help Arsenal dominate PL and in europe. Absolutely nonsense as usual.

Managers at big clubs are judged on titles and trophies, so stop this nonsense of but but Arteta did this.. Arteta did that.

He's won nothing in last 4 seasons and that's failure. You so called point scoring on insignificant achievements which had lead to no PL titles or achievements in Europe.

 

[MK7Z]

@Amjid Javed. What's your opinion on the announcement today regarding PL set to trial a new financial system?

Lots of acronyms PSR SCR, TBA. I'll be honest i don't really get it all. I seem to remember you explaining PSR last time quite well.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@Amjid Javed. What's your opinion on the announcement today regarding PL set to trial a new financial system?

Lots of acronyms PSR SCR, TBA. I'll be honest i don't really get it all. I seem to remember you explaining PSR last time quite well.

They seem to change these financial systems every few years because clubs always start to complain about them after a while.

I think what's happen is clubs werent taking the rules before PSR seriously and thought that what ever over spending they did they could just write off as covid season losses or just clever accounting would see them not get in trouble. But now uve got 6 PL teams who have to sell loads of players before June or they will get points deductions. You probably got quite a few others probably on the board of nor being able to spend much. I Think villa record 100M loss last season just gone and that after making CL.

I think you will start to see less big spending from clubs, transfer fees will start to come down as well. Pretty much clubs will be less inclined to take risks on big signings. In terms of Arsenal I think unless Edu some how starts to pull his finger out with player sales, then even with regular top 4 finishes and new expanded CL money their will come a tipping point where even Arsenal won't spend big.

I think what ever rules are brought it should be based on spending around 70-75% of turnover on transfers and other footballing stuff. Otherwise you will just see clubs over spend and start going bust, as most of these owners will get bored at somepoint, and none of them will put up a guarantee of safety funds if a club does go bust. Just a case of to much money has spoilt the game like it has evert other sport.

 

[Amjid Javed]

@MK7Z - just had a quick read and looks like this new rules are trying to push the current limit of 70% up to 85%.
So in theory a club can spend 85% of its revenue on transfers, stadium costs, academy's etc..

Issue is that revenue usually comes from the following

TV money
Gate receipt money
Club sponsors
Prize money

For a lot of small clubs or midsized clubs increasing your revenue outside of TV money is hard, you have to build it up over time. So clubs either have to take a risk and spend loads and it fails and your in trouble. Or some clubs just don't spend and just do with making up the numbers in PL. No club now unless they get lucky will be able to do what Chelsea or Man city did and spend loads and increase revenue quickly in short period of time.

A lot of clubs will have to improve their academy's now and start making profits and will have to start being smarter with transfers.

 

[MK7Z]

Thanks bro. Kinda get it now.

Will be interesting what happens with Man City.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Thanks bro. Kinda get it now.

Will be interesting what happens with Man City.

The whole Man city thing centres around money coming from sponsors.

So technically every club can get certain amounts of revenue from sponsors. But supposedly the money wasn't coming from the sponsors, it was the city owners just funneling the money "through sponsors" which is technically a breach of the ruled everyone agreed to.

But clubs like City, Chelsea have tried to find loop holes to get around these things. Be interesting to see how FA deals with both these clubs. In Chelsea case their new owners reported the old owners for misownership. Thinking that may get them less severe ownership.

With City, with Pep not signing a new deal and some players now holding off to, maybe it's a case they know punishment is on its way. I think that it won't be till next summer that City will or won't get punished.

 

[MK7Z]

The whole Man city thing centres around money coming from sponsors.

So technically every club can get certain amounts of revenue from sponsors. But supposedly the money wasn't coming from the sponsors, it was the city owners just funneling the money "through sponsors" which is technically a breach of the ruled everyone agreed to.

But clubs like City, Chelsea have tried to find loop holes to get around these things. Be interesting to see how FA deals with both these clubs. In Chelsea case their new owners reported the old owners for misownership. Thinking that may get them less severe ownership.

With City, with Pep not signing a new deal and some players now holding off to, maybe it's a case they know punishment is on its way. I think that it won't be till next summer that City will or won't get punished.

Ye let Pep have his leaving title and then punish them. Sounds fair.

I read last night there was something else regarding the finances. I think to so with club hotels etc. Chelsea seem to have found another loophole.

I dont blame clubs bending the rules to be honest as there is never any real consequence.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Ye let Pep have his leaving title and then punish them. Sounds fair.

I read last night there was something else regarding the finances. I think to so with club hotels etc. Chelsea seem to have found another loophole.

I dont blame clubs bending the rules to be honest as there is never any real consequence.

Yeah with Chelsea owners actually owning different companies. They just got one of their companies to buy Chelseas training ground. Technically its with the rules. But just an example of Chelsea finding loop holes to expose.

It's like for example if Walmart suddenly bought some Arsenal properties, so Arsenal could gain extra cash.

That's how general society is, there will be someone who finds a way to get around rules in place.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It seems Solanke is being targeted for £70 million .

Oshimen will be over £100m .

But it should bring hope to Arsenal fans , they are defo buying a proper striker

 

[MK7Z]

It seems Solanke is being targeted for £70 million .

Oshimen will be over £100m .

But it should bring hope to Arsenal fans , they are defo buying a proper striker

We ain't buying solanke especially for 70 million. Is it the same source that said Bellingham, Enzo, Caicedo, lavia and Xabi Alonso going to Liverpool?

 

[Mamoon]

It seems Solanke is being targeted for £70 million .

Oshimen will be over £100m .

But it should bring hope to Arsenal fans , they are defo buying a proper striker

You don’t get it.

Arsenal are not in the market for an expensive striker anymore because Havertz has made the position his own for at least one more season.

Arsenal will buy a striker who is an upgrade on Eddie and Jesus but not someone who will walk into the starting XI right away.

That is the transfer strategy. You can disagree with it but that is how it is.

 

[MK7Z]

You don’t get it.

Arsenal are not in the market for an expensive striker anymore because Havertz has made the position his own for at least one more season.

Arsenal will buy a striker who is an upgrade on Eddie and Jesus but not someone who will walk into the starting XI right away.

That is the transfer strategy. You can disagree with it but that is how it is

See this is where the problem lies. We need someone who can compete with Havertz ( if indeed he is now number 1 choice in that position).

That's how you create a good squad. When Havertz has his bad games which he will and hopefully less than last season we need someone to keep him on his toes. A good 2nd half of a season should not guarantee you a starting spot for another season when the margins for error are very small.

I think Sesko is the one Arsenal are most linked with. Looks raw but good

 

[Mamoon]

See this is where the problem lies. We need someone who can compete with Havertz ( if indeed he is now number 1 choice in that position).

That's how you create a good squad. When Havertz has his bad games which he will and hopefully less than last season we need someone to keep him on his toes. A good 2nd half of a season should not guarantee you a starting spot for another season when the margins for error are very small.

I think Sesko is the one Arsenal are most linked with. Looks raw but good

Competition is good, but competition is not healthy when you sign an expensive, established striker who will demand a starting role from day 1 and will not be happy to be rotated with Havertz.

The likes of Osimhen, Gyokeres, Isak will not be happy if they are starting 22 out of 38 PL games next season for example, or starting most games but getting subbed in the 65th minute for Havertz.

You won’t sign Wirtz as competition for Odegaard or De Ligt as competition for Saliba.

Same way, you won’t sign a top striker to provide competitive to Havertz who has established himself as a key player in the team and has made the CF position in his own.

Sesko seems like the ideal option at the moment. A young and raw striker with huge potential but someone who will be eased into the team and we will have no issues spending most of the next season on the bench in the PL and UCL and making sub appearances.

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Jens Lehman makes some excellent points regarding Arteta.
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Arsenal legend Jens Lehmann is ‘not sure’ if Mikel Arteta is the right man for the manager’s job following two seasons of disappointment at the Emirates.

The Gunners have narrowly missed out on the Premier League title to Manchester City twice and are struggling for major silverware under the Spaniard.

Apart from two Community Shield triumphs, the only trophy Arteta has clinched since he became Arsenal’s manager five years ago is the FA Cup in 2020-21.

Arsenal hero Thierry Henry is worried his old club will suffer a drop-off in the 2024-25 campaign after two gruelling seasons fighting City for the top-flight title.

Fellow north London icon Lehmann – who won the Premier League and FA Cup during his time at Arsenal – has now cast doubt over Arteta and questions if the Gunners should consider making a managerial change.

‘Mikel Arteta has done really well bringing Arsenal up but if he is the right man for Arsenal now… I am not sure,’ Lehmann told The Telegraph.

‘Because you need to prove it. We could have won [the league] twice. Last year they were leading and in [April] they lost it [with three draws and one defeat].

‘The culmination was when [Bukayo] Saka missed the penalty against West Ham at 2-0 up and it was a draw. It was two points.

‘What people who hire coaches sometimes don’t understand is that the personality of the coach is super important as well.

Arsenal legend 'not sure' if Mikel Arteta is the right man for the job

'Is he a winner or is he a nice guy?'

metro.co.uk

 

[MK7Z]

Competition is good, but competition is not healthy when you sign an expensive, established striker who will demand a starting role from day 1 and will not be happy to be rotated with Havertz.

The likes of Osimhen, Gyokeres, Isak will not be happy if they are starting 22 out of 38 PL games next season for example, or starting most games but getting subbed in the 65th minute for Havertz.

You won’t sign Wirtz as competition for Odegaard or De Ligt as competition for Saliba.

Same way, you won’t sign a top striker to provide competitive to Havertz who has established himself as a key player in the team and has made the CF position in his own.

Sesko seems like the ideal option at the moment. A young and raw striker with huge potential but someone who will be eased into the team and we will have no issues spending most of the next season on the bench in the PL and UCL and making sub appearances.

Lets see. I just can't be dealing with the Arsenal need a striker when they go through a game without scoring.

If the said strikers are on form and banging them in I don't think they will be getting subbed or not starting unless the game is done.

The issue I have is, Arteta shows a lot of trust in about 14 players max. The Starting 11 + Martinelli, Jorg, ok maybe 13 then. Now if he has better quality players then he can trust them and potentially use them. We need a squad of players he trusts. Not Eddie, GJ, Viera, Nelson, ESR, Zinchenko. Those are squad players but not on the level of the starting 11 so the drop off is there to see.

Look at Pep. They call it Pep roulette cos you never know who is going start in certain positions but whoever does there is no significant drop off.

 

[KingKhanWC]

We ain't buying solanke especially for 70 million. Is it the same source that said Bellingham, Enzo, Caicedo, lavia and Xabi Alonso going to Liverpool?

No it’s from various media .

Yourself and Mamoon may feel Havertz is enough but the club & Arteta feel otherwise .

 

[KingKhanWC]

You don’t get it.

Arsenal are not in the market for an expensive striker anymore because Havertz has made the position his own for at least one more season.

Arsenal will buy a striker who is an upgrade on Eddie and Jesus but not someone who will walk into the starting XI right away.

That is the transfer strategy. You can disagree with it but that is how it is.

If a proven scorer is available at the right price I’m sure they’ll bid .

Let’s see the window opens soon

 

[MK7Z]

No it’s from various media .

Yourself and Mamoon may feel Havertz is enough but the club & Arteta feel otherwise .

Please quote where I said Havertz is enough. Thanks

 

[Amjid Javed]

It seems Solanke is being targeted for £70 million .

Oshimen will be over £100m .

But it should bring hope to Arsenal fans , they are defo buying a proper striker

Solanke we already have mediocre strikers in nketitah, Jesus. We don't need another dud.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Oh dear certain clueless poster make excuses about competition for places. This stupid way of thinking is why Arsenal can't compete on all fronts. Also why they have been trophyless for 4 seasons.

We heard the same rubbish before.

But but Jesus has come to Arsenal not to be starting all the time..

But but havertz will be expecting to start every game...

Small minded stupid mentality to say the least.

Why do you think Man city and Real Madrid regular win multiple trophies in a season or compete on all fronts. Because if their is a better player out there they will signed them.

Why has Madrid signed mbappe, when they have vinny junior who plays Same position.

Why have man city got Diaz, stones, ake, Akanji and gavardiol? Because its called having healthy competition

No player has a given right to be a starter every game yet havertz who went missing in the Liverpool cup game, villa league game and Bayern CL game is now number 1 striker for season

If the manager can't rotate his squad and keep a core of 16-17 players motivated, show trust in them and manage them then just shows how poor a manager he is.

Facts are Arteta can't effectively manage a squad across a season in all competitions. If he did the team wouldn't be trophyless nor without a final in 4 season. Exactly the same flaws will be exposed again when team fails to win the PL or CL in 24/25.

But the sake excuses will be rolled out.

But but I expect Arteta to win next 2 out of 4 PL

But but I expect him to win 2 out of next 5 PLs

Just kicking the can down the road with nonsense excuses.

Yet certain cheerleaders think Arsenal are going to dominate / golden era like wenger or GG by using players who have had a few decent games and are now world beaters.

Embarrassing.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Lets see. I just can't be dealing with the Arsenal need a striker when they go through a game without scoring.

If the said strikers are on form and banging them in I don't think they will be getting subbed or not starting unless the game is done.

The issue I have is, Arteta shows a lot of trust in about 14 players max. The Starting 11 + Martinelli, Jorg, ok maybe 13 then. Now if he has better quality players then he can trust them and potentially use them. We need a squad of players he trusts. Not Eddie, GJ, Viera, Nelson, ESR, Zinchenko. Those are squad players but not on the level of the starting 11 so the drop off is there to see.

Look at Pep. They call it Pep roulette cos you never know who is going start in certain positions but whoever does there is no significant drop off.

This is Artetas squad he's been in charge 4.5 Years now, there shunt be squad trust issues. These are players he's signed or retained.

A managers job is to manage his entire squad across a season in multiple competitions.

100% spot on in regards to Pep, same goes for Anchelloti and this is why these two are best managers out there.

Arsenal recruitment won't change this summer. Usual 1 big signing, few squad fillers. Loads of holes in squad as usual when window closes.

Same cheerleaders mamoon, immy69 etc.. Will have their pop poms out and come end of season same excuses.

This club doesn't know what building a squad is under currently regime.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Jens Lehman makes some excellent points regarding Arteta.
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Arsenal legend Jens Lehmann is ‘not sure’ if Mikel Arteta is the right man for the manager’s job following two seasons of disappointment at the Emirates.

The Gunners have narrowly missed out on the Premier League title to Manchester City twice and are struggling for major silverware under the Spaniard.

Apart from two Community Shield triumphs, the only trophy Arteta has clinched since he became Arsenal’s manager five years ago is the FA Cup in 2020-21.

Arsenal hero Thierry Henry is worried his old club will suffer a drop-off in the 2024-25 campaign after two gruelling seasons fighting City for the top-flight title.

Fellow north London icon Lehmann – who won the Premier League and FA Cup during his time at Arsenal – has now cast doubt over Arteta and questions if the Gunners should consider making a managerial change.

‘Mikel Arteta has done really well bringing Arsenal up but if he is the right man for Arsenal now… I am not sure,’ Lehmann told The Telegraph.

‘Because you need to prove it. We could have won [the league] twice. Last year they were leading and in [April] they lost it [with three draws and one defeat].

‘The culmination was when [Bukayo] Saka missed the penalty against West Ham at 2-0 up and it was a draw. It was two points.

‘What people who hire coaches sometimes don’t understand is that the personality of the coach is super important as well.

Arsenal legend 'not sure' if Mikel Arteta is the right man for the job

'Is he a winner or is he a nice guy?'

metro.co.uk

Spot on from Jens also manu Petit. Players nor scared to sat what they think. Compared to the ex players on clubs pay roll who just roll out the excuses.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Solanke we already have mediocre strikers in nketitah, Jesus. We don't need another dud.

He had a good season but I agree if not good enough at LFC why would Arsenal pay for him .


Any strikers available & willing you’d want ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Please quote where I said Havertz is enough. Thanks

I wrote ‘may feel’ . But sure you need a striker or have enough options?

 

[Mamoon]

Oh dear certain clueless poster make excuses about competition for places. This stupid way of thinking is why Arsenal can't compete on all fronts. Also why they have been trophyless for 4 seasons.

We heard the same rubbish before.

But but Jesus has come to Arsenal not to be starting all the time..

But but havertz will be expecting to start every game...

Small minded stupid mentality to say the least.

Why do you think Man city and Real Madrid regular win multiple trophies in a season or compete on all fronts. Because if their is a better player out there they will signed them.

Why has Madrid signed mbappe, when they have vinny junior who plays Same position.

Why have man city got Diaz, stones, ake, Akanji and gavardiol? Because its called having healthy competition

No player has a given right to be a starter every game yet havertz who went missing in the Liverpool cup game, villa league game and Bayern CL game is now number 1 striker for season

If the manager can't rotate his squad and keep a core of 16-17 players motivated, show trust in them and manage them then just shows how poor a manager he is.

Facts are Arteta can't effectively manage a squad across a season in all competitions. If he did the team wouldn't be trophyless nor without a final in 4 season. Exactly the same flaws will be exposed again when team fails to win the PL or CL in 24/25.

But the sake excuses will be rolled out.

But but I expect Arteta to win next 2 out of 4 PL

But but I expect him to win 2 out of next 5 PLs

Just kicking the can down the road with nonsense excuses.

Yet certain cheerleaders think Arsenal are going to dominate / golden era like wenger or GG by using players who have had a few decent games and are now world beaters.

Embarrassing.

Vini and Mbappe are not competing for the same position. Mbappe will play as a 9 with Vini and Rodrygo on LW and RW.

 

[Mamoon]

Lets see. I just can't be dealing with the Arsenal need a striker when they go through a game without scoring.

If the said strikers are on form and banging them in I don't think they will be getting subbed or not starting unless the game is done.

The issue I have is, Arteta shows a lot of trust in about 14 players max. The Starting 11 + Martinelli, Jorg, ok maybe 13 then. Now if he has better quality players then he can trust them and potentially use them. We need a squad of players he trusts. Not Eddie, GJ, Viera, Nelson, ESR, Zinchenko. Those are squad players but not on the level of the starting 11 so the drop off is there to see.

Look at Pep. They call it Pep roulette cos you never know who is going start in certain positions but whoever does there is no significant drop off.

Not sure if I agree with that. Man City’s depth hasn’t been that great in the last couple of years, and there is a significant drop off if they lose Haaland, KDB, Foden, Dias, Rodri etc.

Those days of having Mahrez, Gundogan, Fernandinho etc. on the bench are gone.

 

[Mamoon]

I wrote ‘may feel’ . But sure you need a striker or have enough options?

Not sure why you are so concerned with what Arsenal will do. Yes it is true that Arsenal will finish above Liverpool again but they don’t need to live in your head rent-free.

You seem more active in the Arsenal thread than the Liverpool thread. As a Liverpool fan, you should be more concerned about Liverpool replacing the retarded Uruguayan than what Arsenal will do with their ST situation.

Liverpool should be looking at Isak, Gyokeres, Watkins etc. while the retard still has some resale value. One more season of fluffing chances and they will struggle to sell him for £30m.

 

[MK7Z]

I wrote ‘may feel’ . But sure you need a striker or have enough options?

100% need a striker. It's evident you need a gun man up top when challenging against the Juggernaut that is City.
If we don't sign a striker it's straight up negligence.

 

[Amjid Javed]

City won a treble two seasons ago.

Last season they won the league, got to FA cup final, CL semis. You don't do that without having a pool of 16-17 players you can depend on.

This so call myth that City use a huge squad is a load of nonsense. Pep has always preferred to use a smaller squads. Was CItys squad as strong as when they won treble? No, but it still got the job done. Also when City make mistake in transfer window they tend to rectify it pretty quickly the following windows.

Non of this nonsense "but if this player signs it means foden won't be happy"

"If this player signs then diaz might play less"

City build their squads on having a core of players who are like for like quality so when rotation happens the players are fit for purpose. Yes player like Rodri, haaland aren't going to be replaced. But that's a couple of exceptions.

Arsenal are nowhere near that state with their squad. That's why they keep crashing out of cups and Europe in embarrassing fashion. 4.5 years and a squad which can't compete on all fronts.
Then to top it off this nonsense that certain players will play most of the games and players coming in will be have to be happy is weak and pathetic as they come. That's difference between Pep, Anchelloti vs the rest. They know how use a pool of trusted players.

With the extended CL format next season. Arsenal will fall short again if the so called season game plan is to run players like saliba, Gabriel, Rice and saka into the ground because the so called depth at Arsenal is non existent.

Isak won't want to join because he won't want to be back up to havertz

Wirtz won't want to play 2nd fiddle to oddegard

What utter rubbish. You sign players and whoever performs plays

If certain players want to suddenly sulk then good riddance.

If Arsenal's key players were at City or Real they wouldn't be starting every game. They would be utilised in an effective way by the manager.

All this nonsense that Arteta is going to replicate a golden era of dominance based on what?

You need trust a pool of 15-17 players to do that. Even klopp realised he needed that sort of pool of players when they were challenging in PL and getting to CL finals.

 

[Amjid Javed]

100% need a striker. It's evident you need a gun man up top when challenging against the Juggernaut that is City.
If we don't sign a striker it's straight up negligence.

Problem is this club patches over the glaring holes in squad with retaining players after a purple patch or changes its plans and just neglects the issue.

2 seasons ago we bottled the league. One of main reasons we didn't have adequate cover for saliba or Gabriel.

That was never addressed last season. Kiwor is decent at best. But we were essentially depending on main 2 CBs being injury free all season. When either was having a bad patch we cudnt really rotate.

Same goes for Attackers. We needed a striker few seasons ago, nketitah was given new deal after 2 good games vs chelsea and Leeds. Nelson similarly after a few good games. In both cases the club took the cheap option instead of improving the squad. How many more seasons after every window we going to say we need a RW to have competition saka.

So after last season just gone now it looks like a striker who had a few decent games in 2nd half of season is now sufficient for a club wanting to compete all 4 fronts, a project striker is being linked. That's going to bridge the gap to title. That's going to win the CL.

Havertz missing chances galore vs liverpool. Dissapearing in villa game and the bayern games is why this club ended trophyless. Again typical short-sightedness by thr club. They will now look at cheap and easy option as usual.

The negligence you mention is spot on, Arsenal ain't building a team to dominate it will keep hiding behind the "it's a team progressing nonsense"

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not sure why you are so concerned with what Arsenal will do. Yes it is true that Arsenal will finish above Liverpool again but they don’t need to live in your head rent-free.

You seem more active in the Arsenal thread than the Liverpool thread. As a Liverpool fan, you should be more concerned about Liverpool replacing the retarded Uruguayan than what Arsenal will do with their ST situation.

Liverpool should be looking at Isak, Gyokeres, Watkins etc. while the retard still has some resale value. One more season of fluffing chances and they will struggle to sell him for £30m.

I discuss Arsenal as they are challengers , even tho having won sweet fa under Arteta . It’s nice to see fans from Pakistan being so emotional over a team from a different country & also nice to see your predictions slapping you on the face , not to mention your amusing take on football , having never played the sport yourself.

I hope that answers your question.

My question , why do you think no striker is needed or will be targeted when the club feel otherwise ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

100% need a striker. It's evident you need a gun man up top when challenging against the Juggernaut that is City.
If we don't sign a striker it's straight up negligence.

I think with an elite striker & no injuries , silverware is likely this season .

 

[MK7Z]

Sesko off the radar. Looking more and more likely we wont buy a striker.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Sesko off the radar. Looking more and more likely we wont buy a striker.

Trophyless season number 5 on its way then.

 

[Mamoon]

I think with an elite striker & no injuries , silverware is likely this season .

What is Liverpool’s plan with the mentally retarded Uruguayan?

 

[Mamoon]

I discuss Arsenal as they are challengers , even tho having won sweet fa under Arteta . It’s nice to see fans from Pakistan being so emotional over a team from a different country & also nice to see your predictions slapping you on the face , not to mention your amusing take on football , having never played the sport yourself.

I hope that answers your question.

My question , why do you think no striker is needed or will be targeted when the club feel otherwise ?

You claimed that Arteta would be sacked in 2020-2021 because Arsenal won’t fight for the title under him.

You claimed that Arsenal will finish below Liverpool in 2023-2024 because 2022-2023 was just a one off.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You claimed that Arteta would be sacked in 2020-2021 because Arsenal won’t fight for the title under him.

You claimed that Arsenal will finish below Liverpool in 2023-2024 because 2022-2023 was just a one off.

Let’s stick to current news , you claimed Arsenal won’t be looking for a striker , every other fan & club think otherwise.

Fans should be hoping someone elite is bought .

 

[Mamoon]

Let’s stick to current news , you claimed Arsenal won’t be looking for a striker , every other fan & club think otherwise.

Fans should be hoping someone elite is bought .

Anyone who understands football knows that Arsenal have changed their plans after the way Havertz performed as a CF.

Arsenal are looking for a ST but they are looking at someone who will provide depth and cover, not someone who will replace Havertz and throw a fit if he is on the bench.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Let’s stick to current news , you claimed Arsenal won’t be looking for a striker , every other fan & club think otherwise.

Fans should be hoping someone elite is bought .

He thinks haverz is going to lead Arsenal to a golden era.

Same player that was reason for Arsenal losing in FA Cup to Liverpool, bayern in CL and Villa in the league.

A few good games and now Arsenal don't need an elite striker.

It will be season number 5 without a trophy next season.

 

[Amjid Javed]

Same clueless logic we heard with Jesus.

But but Arsenal shouldn't sign another striker because Jesus hasn't come to sit on bench at Arsenal

same clueless logic, just a change of player

 

[Extra_Cover]

Anyone know what's the update on Jurrien Timber? The guy has been out all season and didn't even made it to bench. Is he going to take another season to recover? We need a left back asap.

 

[IMMY69]

Anyone know what's the update on Jurrien Timber? The guy has been out all season and didn't even made it to bench. Is he going to take another season to recover? We need a left back asap.

He played in the last game of the season and still looks class

 

[Mamoon]

Same clueless logic we heard with Jesus.

But but Arsenal shouldn't sign another striker because Jesus hasn't come to sit on bench at Arsenal

same clueless logic, just a change of player


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I can understand your pain and frustration. You worked overtime trying to convince everyone that Havertz was a disastrous signing but he ended up finishing the season as one of Arsenal’s strongest players, showing up your ignorance.

As far as Jesus is concerned, it is true that he will ask to leave once he accepts that he will no longer be a starter. He spent years on the bench at City and he will not do that at Arsenal knowing that there are plenty of clubs in Europe that will have him as a starter or he could get a massive paycheck in Saudi.

 

[Amjid Javed]

A few good games at end of season and now it's a sucess. The team lost 4 games in the 1st 20 in PL, predominantly because havertz was a passenger in midfield and Arsenal were exposed regularly in midfield in the 1st half of the season.

Your don't bangra over fact he turned up for a few games in 2nd half of the season and now all of sudden he's the starting striker every game next season . Then you talk about ignorance.

Who was the guy who missed sitter after sitter in Liverpool cup game? Havertz

Who was the striker who was a statue for entire bayern 2nd leg? Havertz

Then the icing on the cake as far as Arteta brain facts goes when he put havertz back in midfield and Villa midfield ran riot and won the game

Yet you think a player who was poor in key games which meant Arsenal ended yet another season trophyless is now proven to be a regular starter.

If losers like you had your way their would be statues of Arteta, Zinchenko and haverz outside the ground as that's the mediocrity you like to overhyped.

Good riddance to Jesus, havertz or any other player who thinks they have a given right to start every game. This weak mentality is exactly why Arsenal haven't won a single trophy in last 4 seasons.

You win titles, with doubles, trebles, or in europe when you have a strong pool of players that a manager can effectively rotate and manage. Your so called theory of certain players playing all time and substandard back ups is just a mirror image of the club's poor squad recruitment and the managers inability to rotate / trust under pressure.

Trophyless season number 5 will follow if same garbage methods are used again.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Anyone who understands football knows that Arsenal have changed their plans after the way Havertz performed as a CF.

Arsenal are looking for a ST but they are looking at someone who will provide depth and cover, not someone who will replace Havertz and throw a fit if he is on the bench.

Arteta understands football , you’d agree?

Arteta also played Havertz in MIDFIELD

Arsenal & Arteta are rightfully looking to bring in an elite striker , a 20 pl goal a season . If they get one he will start before havertz on most occasions.

Either you or Arteta doesn’t understand football … which is it ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

A few good games at end of season and now it's a sucess. The team lost 4 games in the 1st 20 in PL, predominantly because havertz was a passenger in midfield and Arsenal were exposed regularly in midfield in the 1st half of the season.

Your don't bangra over fact he turned up for a few games in 2nd half of the season and now all of sudden he's the starting striker every game next season . Then you talk about ignorance.

Who was the guy who missed sitter after sitter in Liverpool cup game? Havertz

Who was the striker who was a statue for entire bayern 2nd leg? Havertz

Then the icing on the cake as far as Arteta brain facts goes when he put havertz back in midfield and Villa midfield ran riot and won the game

Yet you think a player who was poor in key games which meant Arsenal ended yet another season trophyless is now proven to be a regular starter.

If losers like you had your way their would be statues of Arteta, Zinchenko and haverz outside the ground as that's the mediocrity you like to overhyped.

Good riddance to Jesus, havertz or any other player who thinks they have a given right to start every game. This weak mentality is exactly why Arsenal haven't won a single trophy in last 4 seasons.

You win titles, with doubles, trebles, or in europe when you have a strong pool of players that a manager can effectively rotate and manage. Your so called theory of certain players playing all time and substandard back ups is just a mirror image of the club's poor squad recruitment and the managers inability to rotate / trust under pressure.

Trophyless season number 5 will follow if same garbage methods are used again.

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The spine needs a real striker.

You can’t have David , Saliba , Rice and then only Havetz .

I think Artetas fav fan knows this but wants to prove Arteta right in paying nearly 70m for him & him scoring less than 20 goals .

 

[Mamoon]

The spine needs a real striker.

You can’t have David , Saliba , Rice and then only Havetz .

I think Artetas fav fan knows this but wants to prove Arteta right in paying nearly 70m for him & him scoring less than 20 goals .

Are you talking about the retarded Uruguayan, who was bought for £85m (club record fee) and has scored less than 20 goals in both seasons?

Nunez was Klopp’s parting gift, the final proof that he had completely lost it in the market and almost all of his signings in the last 3 years have been underwhelming.

 

[Mamoon]

Arteta understands football , you’d agree?

Arteta also played Havertz in MIDFIELD

Arsenal & Arteta are rightfully looking to bring in an elite striker , a 20 pl goal a season . If they get one he will start before havertz on most occasions.

Either you or Arteta doesn’t understand football … which is it ?

Arsenal will not sign a big name, expensive ST because Havertz has made the position his own for at least the next season.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Ex-Arsenal and Everton striker Campbell dies aged 54​

Former Arsenal and Everton striker Kevin Campbell has died at the age of 54 after a short illness.

Campbell scored 148 goals in 542 appearances across spells with eight clubs during his career.

He won four major trophies with Arsenal and also played for Leyton Orient, Leicester, Nottingham Forest, Trabzonspor, Everton, West Brom and Cardiff.

Campbell made his final appearance as a player in February 2007 before moving into broadcasting.

Everton said earlier this month he became ill in May and was "very unwell" in hospital.

"We are devastated to learn that our former striker Kevin Campbell has died after a short illness," said Arsenal.

"Kevin was adored by everyone at the club. All of us are thinking of his friends and family at this difficult time. Rest in peace, Kevin."

Everton said: "Everyone at Everton is deeply saddened by the death of our former striker Kevin Campbell at the age of just 54.

"Not just a true Goodison Park hero and icon of the English game, but an incredible person as well - as anyone who ever met him will know. RIP, Super Kev."

Campbell's son Tyrese - a striker who has spent the past seven seasons at Championship side Stoke City - thanked the public for their support.

"The pain of this is indescribable and as a son you look at your dad as invincible. He is my idol, the one who I wanted to be when I grew up," said the 24-year-old.

"He was the life and soul of every party and room he blessed, a one-in-a-million person that was loved by everyone. A special, special person. I'll miss you Dad.

"I would now ask that the privacy of our family is respected as we mourn the loss of an irreplaceable father, brother, uncle and all-round amazing human being."

Kevin Campbell: Former Arsenal and Everton striker dies aged 54

Former Arsenal and Everton striker Kevin Campbell dies at the age of 54.

www.bbc.com

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Arsenal nearing deal for Italy defender Calafiori

Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta says the club are trying to strengthen "certain positions" as they close in on the signing of Italy defender Riccardo Calafiori.

Speaking in Los Angeles at the start of Arsenal's three-match tour of the United States, Arteta told reporters there was "no update" on a deal for the 22-year-old Bologna man, who is valued at around €40m (£33.7m).

However, sources have said talks are progressing well and are expected to reach a positive conclusion.

Arsenal are also looking to strengthen in central midfield as they try to do better than the past two campaigns, when they have finished second to Manchester City.

"We have to," said the Gunners boss, when asked if his side have to improve despite two almost flawless seasons. "When you are so close you want to grab it.

"Perfection in this league requires different standards when you relate that word to winning the Premier League and that is what we have to do.

"There is still a lot of time left in the window and while that is more a question for the board, obviously we know there are certain positions that we want to improve and give the squad better resources in terms of numbers but the main thing is to focus on falling in love with the players we have."

Arsenal’s players are returning for pre-season in stages.

They will have returned to London after matches against Bournemouth, Manchester United and Liverpool before others, including Declan Rice and Bukayo Saka, link up given their Euro 2024 campaign with England did not end until 14 July.

One of the tournament’s abiding memories was Saka scoring in the penalty shootout victory over Switzerland in the quarter-finals, banishing the memories of his failure in the previous tournament’s final defeat by Italy.

"I was very nervous," said Arteta. "What happened a few years ago plays back in your mind but he showed a lot of guts and determination and composure to take it the way he did.

"Bukayo’s role is constantly growing and evolving, he is a super important player for us and one of the main players for the national team."


BBC

 

[MK7Z]

ESR on his way to Fulham it seems. Good luck to him. Injuries never really let him progress the way that was expected.

Contrary to regular Arsenal fans I did not rate him as high as they did. I thought he had a pretty poor 1st touch, decision making needed work on but his very good attribute was finding space in around the box.

Can be a good player for Fulham if stays fit. I don't think he would take us up a level keeping him

 

[Amjid Javed]

ESR gone, good luck. The fact he was on relatively low wages has meant a decent fee has been obtained. If you score against Arsenal please do a knee slide and stick two fingers up at mikel

Still got losers like Jesus, zinny, ramsdale, Tierney, tomi, Eddie and Nelson on stupid wages that won't be shifted easily. No wonder clubs are asking for loan deals.

But but Arteta and edu fixed the wage bill..

But but Arteta and edu have made top signings...

But but the kronkes have invested since full owners according 2 delusionist..

In comes an injury prone left back...

Now looking at a b-tech xhaka...

Oh we don't want to bid for Williams as he wants Barca..

Absolute embarrassing, go pay the release clause and then make Barca do the same..

Small club behaviour as usual...

 

[MK7Z]

ESR gone, good luck. The fact he was on relatively low wages has meant a decent fee has been obtained. If you score against Arsenal please do a knee slide and stick two fingers up at mikel

Still got losers like Jesus, zinny, ramsdale, Tierney, tomi, Eddie and Nelson on stupid wages that won't be shifted easily. No wonder clubs are asking for loan deals.

But but Arteta and edu fixed the wage bill..

But but Arteta and edu have made top signings...

But but the kronkes have invested since full owners according 2 delusionist..

In comes an injury prone left back...

Now looking at a b-tech xhaka...

Oh we don't want to bid for Williams as he wants Barca..

Absolute embarrassing, go pay the release clause and then make Barca do the same..

Small club behaviour as usual...

Such hatred its odd

 

[Amjid Javed]

Such hatred its odd

It's not hatred, the manager has developed a single new academy players in 4.5 years at the club. No shock that most youngsters are wanting to leave

When you see trash players like Zinchenko on 150K and players Tomiyasu who can't stay fit been given new 100K week contracts its embarrassing.

Trophyless season number 5 in coming with the lack of intent shown by this club.

Liverpool and FSG are even more Embarrassing right now.

Pep will be sat with cigars out looking at the 2 teams which fell short last season showing zero ambition this summer.

Another failed season will be rewarded with a new contract for Arteta.

No other big club would behave in such a manner when it comes to failure

 

[Amjid Javed]

@MK7Z you were waiting to see whether the kronkes had changed this summer, you should already have your answer to that

 

[MK7Z]

It's not hatred, the manager has developed a single new academy players in 4.5 years at the club. No shock that most youngsters are wanting to leave

When you see trash players like Zinchenko on 150K and players Tomiyasu who can't stay fit been given new 100K week contracts its embarrassing.

Trophyless season number 5 in coming with the lack of intent shown by this club.

Liverpool and FSG are even more Embarrassing right now.

Pep will be sat with cigars out looking at the 2 teams which fell short last season showing zero ambition this summer.

Another failed season will be rewarded with a new contract for Arteta.

No other big club would behave in such a manner when it comes to failure

It seems like blind hatred to me. You want an ex player if they score to give rods to the manager of the team you support.

I just dont think ESR was good enough. Thats just my opinion. Couldn't care less if he is academy or not. I don't care much for academy players wanting to leave as how many who will leave are good enough to improve a team competing with Man City.

The whole academy thing is just another stick to beat Arteta with.

You know my opinions on Zinchenko. Tomy is just a crock unfortunately. Bit like the guy in my DP.

and Yeah Kroenke's have stuck to type. Gross neglect if no backup for Saka and a banger up front. There is still time so hold on to your rage - its a long season.

 

[Amjid Javed]

It seems like blind hatred to me. You want an ex player if they score to give rods to the manager of the team you support.

I just dont think ESR was good enough. Thats just my opinion. Couldn't care less if he is academy or not. I don't care much for academy players wanting to leave as how many who will leave are good enough to improve a team competing with Man City.

The whole academy thing is just another stick to beat Arteta with.

You know my opinions on Zinchenko. Tomy is just a crock unfortunately. Bit like the guy in my DP.

and Yeah Kroenke's have stuck to type. Gross neglect if no backup for Saka and a banger up front. There is still time so hold on to your rage - its a long season.

ESR has rightly been moved on, sadly his injury record means it put pay to any development. On top of Artetas instance on using havertz in midfield for 1st half of season (in which we lost 4 games in the 1st 20) which cost the team the league. But its ok we've got fabio Vieira, the guy who is a waste of 35 million and a guy Arteta didn't even trust to play from January onwards. Why is Vieira being kept? Because no one wants him.

Arsenal don't have endless amounts of money to spend for following reasons

- kronkes put no money into Transfers
- Arsenal being poor on player sales
- Arsenal treating unwanted players in such a way their value is next to nothing

So If you don't have endless amounts of cash, you either develop your academy players or you try and ensure most of your signings work

Let's go through list of signings in last 3 seasons

Jesus - half a good season, can't stay fit and no longer 1st choice.

Vieira - garbage player

Zinchenko - half a good season, then soon realised he's a liability

Kiwor - club looking to sell him as not good enough

Jorginho - done a decent job

Turner - garbage player

Marquinos - was never going to make it to 1st team level

Trusty - garbage player only signed so kronkes U.S team could use the transfer funds

Tavares - garbage player

Lakonga - garbage player

Tomiyasu - injury prone at bologna and same here as well.

Ramsdale - decent 12-15 months and no longer good enough

Ben White - success

Oddegard - success

Rice - Success

Timber - N/A as he's been injured

Havert - garbage in midfield / decent up front

Raya - decent at best

So your essentially looking at in last 3 seasons white, Oddegard, Rice being only successful signings.
Then Jorginho, havertz and Raya bring decent.

The rest being either liabilities or trash.

How many goal keepers has Arteta? How many left backs has he bought?

Absolutely trash imbalanced squad building, so it's no shock the squad has holes in it

You telling me we could have used academy players instead of the long list of trash signings we've made?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Arteta - "We know there are certain positions that we want to improve and give the squad better resources, especially in terms of numbers where we are very short"

So according to Arteta the squad is short of resources, he's a novel idea how about stop signing goal keepers and left backs every window and address the rest of squad, or maybe stop putting mediocre players on high wages so no one else wants them. Maybe promote some youth players.

So managers full of excuses as usual.

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But but he's the best young manager in world

But but I trust edu and arteta

This season is going to be an even bigger reality check for the and in this fan base

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Arteta - "We know there are certain positions that we want to improve and give the squad better resources, especially in terms of numbers where we are very short"

So according to Arteta the squad is short of resources, he's a novel idea how about stop signing goal keepers and left backs every window and address the rest of squad, or maybe stop putting mediocre players on high wages so no one else wants them. Maybe promote some youth players.

So managers full of excuses as usual.

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But but he's the best young manager in world

But but I trust edu and arteta

This season is going to be an even bigger reality check for the and in this fan base

he's got the mentality of a chocker. Already lining up excuses.

 

[MK7Z]

he's got the mentality of a chocker. Already lining up excuses.

Eras come to an end

 

[MK7Z]

ESR has rightly been moved on, sadly his injury record means it put pay to any development. On top of Artetas instance on using havertz in midfield for 1st half of season (in which we lost 4 games in the 1st 20) which cost the team the league. But its ok we've got fabio Vieira, the guy who is a waste of 35 million and a guy Arteta didn't even trust to play from January onwards. Why is Vieira being kept? Because no one wants him.

Arsenal don't have endless amounts of money to spend for following reasons

- kronkes put no money into Transfers
- Arsenal being poor on player sales
- Arsenal treating unwanted players in such a way their value is next to nothing

So If you don't have endless amounts of cash, you either develop your academy players or you try and ensure most of your signings work

Let's go through list of signings in last 3 seasons

Jesus - half a good season, can't stay fit and no longer 1st choice.

Vieira - garbage player

Zinchenko - half a good season, then soon realised he's a liability

Kiwor - club looking to sell him as not good enough

Jorginho - done a decent job

Turner - garbage player

Marquinos - was never going to make it to 1st team level

Trusty - garbage player only signed so kronkes U.S team could use the transfer funds

Tavares - garbage player

Lakonga - garbage player

Tomiyasu - injury prone at bologna and same here as well.

Ramsdale - decent 12-15 months and no longer good enough

Ben White - success

Oddegard - success

Rice - Success

Timber - N/A as he's been injured

Havert - garbage in midfield / decent up front

Raya - decent at best

So your essentially looking at in last 3 seasons white, Oddegard, Rice being only successful signings.
Then Jorginho, havertz and Raya bring decent.

The rest being either liabilities or trash.

How many goal keepers has Arteta? How many left backs has he bought?

Absolutely trash imbalanced squad building, so it's no shock the squad has holes in it

You telling me we could have used academy players instead of the long list of trash signings we've made?

You forgot big Gabi

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Eras come to an end

Lol. What era. One FA cup, and a Community shield, and two chockes in the premier league . Lol

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Arsenal fans judged price tag, not my football - Pepe

Nicolas Pepe has come to terms with his Arsenal exit and the price tag that warped perceptions around his performances, but admits "it wasn't easy".

When people mention the Ivory Coast international, now 29, the then club-record £72m fee to sign the winger from Lille soon follows.

And it is a number, Pepe admits, he struggled to handle.

"It wasn't easy at all. And the fans weren't happy with how I was performing," he told BBC Sport.

"When I first joined, the fans weren't really judging my performances, they were judging the price tag. But I think I did some great things while at Arsenal. I don't regret my time there.

"But my transfer fee to the club was the highest one they'd signed, so they expected me to score in each match."

Arsenal signed Pepe in 2019 after a sensational season with Lille, during which he scored 23 goals and managed 12 assists, but he never approached the same strike rate in England.

He played his last game for Arsenal in 2022 and, after a season-long loan at Nice, is now without a club after leaving Turkish side Trabzonspor in the summer, having only joined them on a free transfer from Arsenal last September.

Nicolas Pepe: Ex-Arsenal player says Gunners fans judged his fee

Former Arsenal winger Nicolas Pepe says Gunners fans judged his transfer fee rather than his performances for the club.

www.bbc.com

 

[Amjid Javed]

You forgot big Gabi

Big Gabi and partey were 4 seasons ago.

I'm talking bout last 3 seasons, the transfers have been a failure on vast majority.

 

[MK7Z]

Lol. What era. One FA cup, and a Community shield, and two chockes in the premier league . Lol

I'm going to stop making jokes. They go right over your head.

That's what your manager said in his 1st press conference... Sigh

Never mind

 

[Mamoon]

What's folks opinion on Kompany joining Bayern?

Especially those who are of the belief Arteta would not be hired by a big club with ambition.

Kompany doesn't have much on his CV either. Could argue less than Arteta.

Doesn't get much bigger than Bayern.

If Arteta quits Arsenal today, he will have no shortage of suitors. He is rated very very highly as a young manager with immense potential and the criticism of 0% ball knowledge fans and haters do not matter.

Kompany to Bayern is very interesting. He has had very good football education and he was also a smart player and a leader.

He has had a poor coaching career so far but it is possible that his coaching methods and philosophy are more suited to players who are at a higher level than what he’s had to work with so far.

Not every manager is cut for the big clubs but not every manager is cut for the small clubs either. Would Pep or Arteta survived relegation with Sheffield? Probably not.

Horrendous decision, Bayern got rejected by all the top options they wanted and then went for a shocking choice. He will be sacked with 12 months.

100% ball knowledge vs 0% ball knowledge.